A msg about modesty

[Kate&Lucas]

I really hate to see little ones in inappropriate clothing. I saw a kid a few days ago must have been about 8 with hotpants on so small, she was on a bike and her bumcheeks were hanging right out over the seat
I didn't realise leggings were considered provocative though
And if my 2.5 year old came out with that I'd be looking at where I was going wrong, not the other child's parents.

 

[Toms Mummy]

Leggings and skinny jeans skimpy? Seriously? I'm glad I don't have a daughter because I would have the most "provocative" child ever, I see nothing wrong with skinny jeans or leggings, leggings are comfortable and skinny jeans at least don't look like someone crapped themselves. Not my fault pedophiles exist, I should be censoring children because of this?
I don't think either parent of the original post are "vile". Kids just like to mimic adults, one saw an adult dressed like that, the other heard someone say something about a "nice butt", we need to get over ourselves.

This is MY personal opinion!.... I don't wear skinny jeans as I would feel uncomfotable in them... like I'm revealing too much, I'm just used to baggy jeans!... I also find short shorts and skirts skimpy, and ballet pumps I find skimpy too.... I didn't say provocative! If I had a daughter I wouldn't let her wear leggings without shorts or a skirt over the top as to me they're just like thick tights (some aren't even that thick!!).... and I certainly wouldn't wear tights without shorts or a skirt so I don't see the difference personally! .... again MY personal opinion, I am allowed to have one and don't need people slating it because they don't agree!

I'm not slating anyone here for dressing their child in leggings, I just say that they are too skimpy for my liking!

 

[Blah11]

I agree with some others - My 3 year old wears leggings & short skirts. shes 3 and theyre not inappropriate.

 

[Blah11]

& my DD has loads of jeans with embroidery on the back pockets. Theyre sweet IMO, not so people can look at her bum & think anything remotely sexual :s Odd anyone would even think or say that.

 

[Toms Mummy]

& my DD has loads of jeans with embroidery on the back pockets. Theyre sweet IMO, not so people can look at her bum & think anything remotely sexual :s Odd anyone would even think or say that.

I'm saying when there's writing on the bum... like the word "juicy!" Obviously people are going to read it, therefore they are looking at that persons bum!!!

It's not odd, personally I wouldn't want to wear anything that draws people's attention to my bum!!.... Nothing sexual about it. I haven't even mentioned anything being sexual or provocative... people are putting words in my mouth!

 

[Liesje]

The word "Juicy" comes from the designer brand "Juicy Couture". No one is actually calling a child's butt "juicy".
As for children hearing about bum touching also being inappropriate, my son hears "sexy bum" and "I touch your bum" all day long. I say it to him and his dad all the time. if some incredulous prude wants to think there is something wrong with that then

 

[Tiff]

Does your son wander around telling other girls that they have "sexy bums" and that he wants to touch them? I think that's the difference here.

 

[Liesje]

Does your son wander around telling other girls that they have "sexy bums" and that he wants to touch them? I think that's the difference here.

Not yet but I'm sure that day will come. I'm not going to sensor myself in my house because one day he might say something out loud in public and someone who thinks children are capable of sexual thoughts will think ill of my parenting.
I think the point of the original post was that some horrible woman dressed her daughters so slutty that even a two year old was turned on and we were all supposed to go "OMG those kids must have been really slutty for a kid to react that way, you're right, what a horrible person, we'd never do that, we're so much better."... gimme a break. Children don't have sexual feelings ladies, this is only something pedophiles claim. They don't know what dressing "provocatively" is, they don't know what a "nice bum" is, and NO it's not our place to start explaining it to them then because that will screw them up!

 

[Eleanor ace]

I'm not saying they're asking to look at them because they have leggings on!.... I just think they're skimpy on girls or women or men or whoever!!!.... But I also think skinny jeans are skimpy!

I am saying though.... I hate seeing girls and women and men!! with trousers on with motifs on the bottom... why have something writen on your arse, like "juicy" if you don't want people to look and read it! Of course people are going to look and read it!!!..... I'm not saying the girls are asking for it but surely their parents should think twice before putting them on their children!!!

Normal writing on the seat of trousers doesn't bother me, but a couple of years ago I saw two little girls, maybe 6 and 8ish, wearing jogging bottoms with diamanté writing on their bottoms, one said "b*itch" and the littler one's said "tease". That is just wrong

 

[mum22ttc#3]

The word "Juicy" comes from the designer brand "Juicy Couture". No one is actually calling a child's butt "juicy".
As for children hearing about bum touching also being inappropriate, my son hears "sexy bum" and "I touch your bum" all day long. I say it to him and his dad all the time. if some incredulous prude wants to think there is something wrong with that then

See to me the way the OP wrote her post about the little boy saying that the little girl had 'a nice bum' and that 'he wanted to touch it' came across to me as a totally inappropiate thing for a little boy of that age to be saying.
I'm not a prude but there is no way I would expect that to come from my LO's mouth, shes very near that age and she wouldn't even know to touch other kids bums in that kind of manner.

 

[mum22ttc#3]

Does your son wander around telling other girls that they have "sexy bums" and that he wants to touch them? I think that's the difference here.

Not yet but I'm sure that day will come. I'm not going to sensor myself in my house because one day he might say something out loud in public and someone who thinks children are capable of sexual thoughts will think ill of my parenting.
I think the point of the original post was that some horrible woman dressed her daughters so slutty that even a two year old was turned on and we were all supposed to go "OMG those kids must have been really slutty for a kid to react that way, you're right, what a horrible person, we'd never do that, we're so much better."... gimme a break. Children don't have sexual feelings ladies, this is only something pedophiles claim. They don't know what dressing "provocatively" is, they don't know what a "nice bum" is, and NO it's not our place to start explaining it to them then because that will screw them up!

No but they can have manners, I think that is what most people are getting at.
It isn't appropiate for a boy of any age to be talking in that manner about other little girls whether he has learnt it from elsewhere or not, it is that parents responsibility to be teaching her son that it isnt right and to correct it, not to reward his behaviour with toys and to blame it on another parent because she allowed her 3 daughters to wear leggings.

 

[Tiff]

That's exactly my point mum22!

Obviously there will come a time when our kids become sexual. But the tone of the OP was not innocent, in fact she was ranting because her son found it sexual! And in my honest opinion, yes I think is a bit disturbing that her son knows the difference at such a young age.

It should be like how Lisjie (sorry, on my mobile and can't check spelling) said and be innocent. but that's not how the post came across.

 

[Toms Mummy]

I'm not saying they're asking to look at them because they have leggings on!.... I just think they're skimpy on girls or women or men or whoever!!!.... But I also think skinny jeans are skimpy!

I am saying though.... I hate seeing girls and women and men!! with trousers on with motifs on the bottom... why have something writen on your arse, like "juicy" if you don't want people to look and read it! Of course people are going to look and read it!!!..... I'm not saying the girls are asking for it but surely their parents should think twice before putting them on their children!!!

Normal writing on the seat of trousers doesn't bother me, but a couple of years ago I saw two little girls, maybe 6 and 8ish, wearing jogging bottoms with diamanté writing on their bottoms, one said "b*itch" and the littler one's said "tease". That is just wrong

/\ /\ This is exactly my point!.... They (their parents!) are just asking for people to look at their bottoms!.... Whether sexual or not!

The word "Juicy" comes from the designer brand "Juicy Couture". No one is actually calling a child's butt "juicy".
As for children hearing about bum touching also being inappropriate, my son hears "sexy bum" and "I touch your bum" all day long. I say it to him and his dad all the time. if some incredulous prude wants to think there is something wrong with that then

/\ /\.... I see!.... this is were I am totally out of touch with modern fashion brands :doh:

 

[RachA]

I don't like things written on the bum of jeans/leggings etc either. I have bought jeans for my girl that have flowers or butterfly etc but personally i wouldn't buy them if they had a word. I wouldn't buy them for myself either as i really don't feel comfortable in having people looking at my bottom.
I don't think the parents are doing it to be provocative but at the end of the day if there is a word then people do tend to try and read it.


I admire your convictions Toms Mummy and like the fact that you know what makes you feel comfortable etc in what you wear. I will wear leggings but i have to admit that i tend to wear long tops that go right over my bottom when i do, otherwise i feel like i'm wearing my tights with no shorts/skirt.

 

[Toms Mummy]

I don't like things written on the bum of jeans/leggings etc either. I have bought jeans for my girl that have flowers or butterfly etc but personally i wouldn't buy them if they had a word. I wouldn't buy them for myself either as i really don't feel comfortable in having people looking at my bottom.
I don't think the parents are doing it to be provocative but at the end of the day if there is a word then people do tend to try and read it.


I admire your convictions Toms Mummy and like the fact that you know what makes you feel comfortable etc in what you wear. I will wear leggings but i have to admit that i tend to wear long tops that go right over my bottom when i do, otherwise i feel like i'm wearing my tights with no shorts/skirt.

Thanks Rach... It's just that I personally don't feel comfortable in tight fitted clothing, mainly for self concious reasons as I would feel that people would be lookng at me more! Therefore I wouldn't dress my child in them either. It doesn't mean that I think it's bad or provocative, I'm sure I wear things that other people on here wouldn't feel comfortable in x

 

[aliss]

I know my boy's speech is a little slow but I really can't imagine that coming out of a 2.5 year olds mouth? I dunno

 

[Kate&Lucas]

It wouldn't come out of my 2.5 year old's mouth
He would just never hear that sort of talk to mimic it. I am happy to censor certain conversations from him that I would not like him repeating, and would be very unhappy if he learned choice phrases like that from other children of his age.

 

[Tiff]

For me it was the tone of it that really bothered me. Like how would a child at that age understand and know something to be sexual? Of course I don't mean that I totally censor myself about my daughter, I'll say things to my husband as well that are probably kinda cheeky

But the difference is that my daughter has NO idea that my words are meant in that context. Granted she's in the process of being diagnosed with Autism so she doesn't normally "get" those things anyways... but I'd say the same for my friends kiddos too.

Am I the only one who thinks it a bit off that a 2.5 year old understands sexual intention? That's how the OP came across to me as, lol.

 

[Eleanor ace]

For me it was the tone of it that really bothered me. Like how would a child at that age understand and know something to be sexual? Of course I don't mean that I totally censor myself about my daughter, I'll say things to my husband as well that are probably kinda cheeky

But the difference is that my daughter has NO idea that my words are meant in that context. Granted she's in the process of being diagnosed with Autism so she doesn't normally "get" those things anyways... but I'd say the same for my friends kiddos too.

Am I the only one who thinks it a bit off that a 2.5 year old understands sexual intention? That's how the OP came across to me as, lol.

No that definitely stood out to me as worrying. I teach young children and I can tell you that the vast majority of 4 year old's I've taught wouldn't have made a comment like that, with the sexual understanding that comes across in the OP. It would be a red flag that the child had been exposed to inappropriate behaviour/media

 

[mum22ttc#3]

For me it was the tone of it that really bothered me. Like how would a child at that age understand and know something to be sexual? Of course I don't mean that I totally censor myself about my daughter, I'll say things to my husband as well that are probably kinda cheeky

But the difference is that my daughter has NO idea that my words are meant in that context. Granted she's in the process of being diagnosed with Autism so she doesn't normally "get" those things anyways... but I'd say the same for my friends kiddos too.

Am I the only one who thinks it a bit off that a 2.5 year old understands sexual intention? That's how the OP came across to me as, lol.

No, my LO is coming up to that age, 2.2 months at the moment and her speech and understanding is very good for her age, at the moment though the only things that bums are used for to her are pooing or weeing, at the most for sitting them on the potty. Even if she heard that kind of language at home I really don't think she'd get the understanding of it.

To be fair though even if my 4 year old over heard certain things I know she wouldn't get the 'sexual intention' of it, I don't know, I suppose its the the tone the didn't sit right with me also, its just not the kinda thing that comes from a 2.5 years old mouth.