anyone over 35 going for fertility treatments this year? IUI, IVF etc

[sarahincanada]

thanks greenfingers and crystal! gf I do hope things go well but Im staying realistic too just incase the eggs dont do well, you never know. but Im hoping to join you in first tri soon. its all so surreal, I was thinking today jeez I could be pregnant in the next couple of weeks, cant believe it. but then again I remember the success rate is only 36% so that brings me back to reality! but hopefully if I do 3 IVFs I will be able to succeed are you excited/nervous about your scan? hope your beanie is doing well, and I wonder if there will be 2!

 

[dachsundmom]

Sarah, how many embies are you transferring?

 

[sarahincanada]

Sarah, how many embies are you transferring?

thats such a hard decision! on day 3 they will do 3, or day 5 they will do 2. Im considering only 1 if I can freeze some, as I would prefer a singleton. If it didnt work I would do 2 the 2nd time. its only $1200 to defrost and transfer, so it may be worth taking time and doing 1 at a time.....its hard to say. I used to think Id love twins and to get it over with first time, but now think I would find twins very hard. however Ive read of lots of women who have 2 put in and only get a singleton.

my mum was saying she doesnt think twins would be that much harder than say having a 2 year old and a baby....she thinks that may be worse.....hadnt thought of it that way!

what do you ladies think? I have to start thinking about it now, even though I dont know if I will even have to make the decision depending on my results.

 

[dachsundmom]

Sarah, that's a very tough decision and I am not sure what I would do...

 

[LLbean]

Way to go Sarah!!!!!!!!!! See? I knew you would do well. Can't wait to hear how many they actually collect and fertilize...you are doing GREAT!!!!

thank you LL Im being realistic as I know you had many eggs and were able to have the testing to find only 1 good, who didnt make it. It will be interesting to see how mine do, but not having the testing done here theres so much less info and I will just have to hope for the best. GF didnt have as many but perhaps hers were great quality.

how are you doing, do you think you will try another IVF in January? were you on a combination of FSH and LH products for your first IVF? I only learnt about the LH part when she added the 75 Repronex with the Gonal F. I remember you were on a lot of meds so I cant remember.

they will do the exact same protocol as that produced a great quantity of eggs. I am just working with acupuncture and stuff now to make the GOOD eggs too ;-)

 

[LLbean]

Sarah, how many embies are you transferring?

thats such a hard decision! on day 3 they will do 3, or day 5 they will do 2. Im considering only 1 if I can freeze some, as I would prefer a singleton. If it didnt work I would do 2 the 2nd time. its only $1200 to defrost and transfer, so it may be worth taking time and doing 1 at a time.....its hard to say. I used to think Id love twins and to get it over with first time, but now think I would find twins very hard. however Ive read of lots of women who have 2 put in and only get a singleton.

my mum was saying she doesnt think twins would be that much harder than say having a 2 year old and a baby....she thinks that may be worse.....hadnt thought of it that way!

what do you ladies think? I have to start thinking about it now, even though I dont know if I will even have to make the decision depending on my results.

I was ready to do 2, but only had 1good one. Honestly I would. And if I only had 3 good ones that would be a tough call...I may do all 3 as there are no guarantees they will all take and I would hate to freeze just one and perhaps lose it in defrosting, you know?

 

[crystal443]

I think its up to you in the end, I think the advantage you have is that you have no little ones at home so all your time could be spent with them My DD was 18 months when DS was born and it was tough and not just for the baby part of it lol, it was tough for about 4 years. Its easy peasy once they get past toddler stage but I think two the same age would be easier then a toddler and a newborn.

The only downfall to multiples would be the risk to you and to babies, it isn't just getting pregnant there's higher chance of miscarriage, premature birth, and complications from that such as cerebral palsy, blindness etc. There's a higher risk for gestational diabetes, high blood pressure etc. sorry I sound negative, they went over all this with us at the clinic but you do need to wiegh the good and bad. You could also get pregnant with twins and have two beautiful healthy babies. I think if your doctor offers two its because they feel you'll have a good outcome if both stick

 

[Milty]

Sarah How exciting for you!

I have no idea how I would decide

I will say my sis has two kids 13 mths apart and the oldest is 2 mths younger than my son. I very often keep all three and it is really tuff better now that they are older. We I keep the two oldest it is not so bad.

 

[Milty]

OK so my nurse called with the results of my progestrone test. I took the test on CD 22 and got a 9 which I guess is normal.

What do you guys think?

 

[readyformore]

what do you ladies think? I have to start thinking about it now, even though I dont know if I will even have to make the decision depending on my results.

I guess it depends on a lot of things. I would take the grade of the embryos into consideration as well. I'd be more likely to put 2 in if they were both of lower quality.

The biggest issue I would consider is:
How many children do you ultimately want? I have always wanted a large family. So, I can say that although a singleton pregnancy is the most favored by doctors, if I was 39 without children......I'd transfer 2 and pray that they both stuck.

If you had planned on having 1 child, then I would do just that. I'd transfer one.

BTW- I did have a patient that had SET and ended up having twins!! After her transfer, the embryo split into identical twin girls!
Just goes to show that we can plan all we want, but those babies come when they want to come!

 

[crystal443]

That's exactly right Ready There's been ladies have two put back and end up with 3..it really is a personal choice Anything can happen

Milty- I don't know much about progesterone numbers but that sounds ok to me

 

[LLbean]

My doc also told me of a patient of hers that had 2 put in and they both split...but they also got reabsorbed and she only had the two fraternals instead of two sets of identicals

 

[crystal443]

Wow.. can you imagine? Have two put back and end up with 4? I think I'd have a panic attack on the spot,lol.

 

[GreenFingers]

Sarah it's such a personal decision, but just to throw something else into the pot....

I didn't find out how many would be frozen until after ET. They grow them on another day or 2 past the 5 day transfer to see if they are good enough to be frozen. I ended up having none good enough and in the letter I got from then they said they only get embryo's good enough to freeze in 20% of all IVF cycles. I guess I am saying don't bank to highly on having any frosties....that said you might be one of the 20% and have a good number to freeze.

As for me, I have always known I want to have more than one child and with DOR I know that time is against me, the consultant said to me after the first is born I need to start thinking about number 2 so really I felt that the risk of twins was worth it.

It's such a personal thing though, you will make the right decision for you

 

[GreenFingers]

are you excited/nervous about your scan? hope your beanie is doing well, and I wonder if there will be 2!

I wonder too....sometimes I am sure there is 2 and other times I can't believe there is even one lol!! I am more nervous than excited xx

OK so my nurse called with the results of my progestrone test. I took the test on CD 22 and got a 9 which I guess is normal.

What do you guys think?

Hi Milty - sorry I have no idea, did she say she was happy with it? It is a test to see if you have ovulated right?

:wave: to everyone else

 

[Milty]

Green: Yes it does make sure you ovulated and how strong maybe an egg is. I don't think strong is the right word. If you had say a 5 then you did O but the corpus Luteum did really start producing as much progestrone as it should have. If you O and get a really high number then maybe your linning will be to thick. So it is a balance as to where you want to be.

So the doc sent me a chart that showed the best level by day and a good range by day as well. A 9 was spot on for day 22 for the best or whatever they call it. Most desirable I think.

Anyway it is good news but sometimes I have a hard time when I hear this.

It's pretty much always been this way..."your numbers are perfect" or nothing appears to be wrong with you. I think if I heard something like "oh it's a little on the high end but still in the normal range" I would jump for joy but that never happens.

We are both pretty much Ideal on everything ...oh except for the fact I have had 1 baby in 15 years....

 

[Milty]

My doc also told me of a patient of hers that had 2 put in and they both split...but they also got reabsorbed and she only had the two fraternals instead of two sets of identicals

you know if that happened again and they didn't get reabsorbed you could the baby could be an identical and fraternal twin....wouldn't that be fun to explaine...


I could just see them in school...this is my twin brother

but he doesn't look like you but that guy right there looks like your twin

oh he is my twin also ...he is my idential twin...he is my fraternal twin...

sorry I get carried away sometimes

 

[sarahincanada]

thanks for your thoughts everyone! I am a typical libran and sway back and forth everyday

LL you make a good point about would it survive the defrost, I think the number I was given was 80% only survive and they only freeze the best, so it is a risk.

Ready I do want more children, I was just hoping for one at a time but my mum made a good point that 2 at the same time wouldnt be much harder than having a baby and a toddler. i suppose being on here I realize that having one healthy baby is a miracle, so cooking 2 healthy babies would be nervewracking. and wow yes theres the chance of splitting too, but thats fine by me as its nature and not a choice.

Greenfingers did you have a 5 days transfer? for some reason I thought it was 3 day but that must have been someone else. I didnt realize they waited till after day 5 to see what freeze (i know they wait if you do a day 3). Hopfully my decision will be easy once I talk to the doctors. Theres a thread on another forum with BFP succcess for over 40's and a lot of girls on there had 2 put back but only had a singleton. If the chance of pregnancy is only 30% I guess I shouldnt be worrying about all this at all.

milty Ive never had a progesterone test mid cycle so I dont have anything to compare it too, but thats good if they say its good. Im in exactly the same boat with all results perfect except Ive never had a bfp in my life! I thought my AMH was on the low side according to a chart I found online, but the nurse at the clinic said it was great for my age and most peoples numbers at my age would be worse. So everything is perfect but I cant get pregnant even when they are injecting millions of motile sperm into my uterus at ovulation. It could be something simple like a hard egg shell, or it could be something not so simple like bad eggs. No test shows the quality of the eggs, so I will see next week if nothing much fertilizes I will have my answer.

 

[GreenFingers]

Yep it was a 5 day transfer although they weren't quite blasto's, she said they were hours away from being blasto though, it was a Sat and they are shut Sundays so we couldn't wait. If they had reached blasto they would only let me have one as I am under 37....some strange NHS rule!!!

How have you been feeling on the drugs?

 

[sarahincanada]

Yep it was a 5 day transfer although they weren't quite blasto's, she said they were hours away from being blasto though, it was a Sat and they are shut Sundays so we couldn't wait. If they had reached blasto they would only let me have one as I am under 37....some strange NHS rule!!!

How have you been feeling on the drugs?

a little woozy and nauseous, but I took the week off so just been relaxing