anyone over 35 going for fertility treatments this year? IUI, IVF etc

[DaisyQ]

Thanks Sarah. I agree - I'm satisfied with the 36 hour IUI, but I feel the one at 13 hours is kind of a waste.

We've never done back to back IUIs before, so I don't know how his count will be for the second go. I know a lot of times the second sample has a lower count than the first, but I've also seen a lot of couples on IUI threads who actually get a comparable, or even better sample for the second IUI. I also think more frequent emissions can improve morph, which may be our issue (6% strict Krugers).

And I agree - I think the problem with IUIs is often the timing, which is why it's stressing me out.

Hmmm.. now I'm considering canceling the first IUI and just doing the second one at 36 hours... Maybe I'll call the office to discuss it.

 

[DaisyQ]

Oh and the reason I had originally wanted back to backs this time is because our last IUI was at 24 hours, which I really felt was too early. I had assumed we'd be doing back to back IUIs at 24 and 48 this time, but apparently not. I tried to ask the doctor about the rationale for 13 and 36 hours, but he wasn't too forthcoming with an explanation.

 

[drsquid]

daisy- sounds like for whatever reason he likes 24 hrs for iui and therefore is trying to "center" on 24 hrs with iui before and after bracketing it.


got an us at work... 4-5 greater than 2cm ones. about 5 or so 15mm ones (we didnt really measure) and a bunch of smaller ones... iui at 10 am tomorrow.. 36hrs post trigger. i did us last time within 6 hrs after iui that showed the follies gone,.. im off work tomorrow so no fu us (well actually i probably could go by the department where the re doc is because i work there too). getting a sperm count tomorrow.. not much i can do if it sucks but at least id know not to buy more. makes me feel a bit better after being so down this am.

 

[DaisyQ]

True - that must be what he's doing... Intersesting. I want to ask him why at my next appointment. Unfortnuately he is not so great at discussing his rationale. You get the sense he is giving you these formuleic answers and he is very brief.

WOW - lots and lots of follicles and some BIG ones. At this point you should be worried more about multiples than a BFN!

 

[Rona]

Hi ladies, did the 5 day transfer today. I am kind of worry, but my RE assure me there's still chances. The embryos all growing fine until day 4, then slow down! He said it one day behind. All of them. He asked how many we want to put back. He suggested 2, but we decided put 3 and he is okay with it. The other 2 will be freeze if it survive until day 6. I feel fine after transfer and no cramps whatsoever. But it hard to be positive knowingly we transferred slow grow embryos. I hope they make it. Good luck to other ladies that have their ET and ET this week, oh and also IUI.

 

[DaisyQ]

Rona tons of dust to you. I have everything crossed that those beanies will thrive once they are inside.

 

[sarahincanada]

Hi ladies, did the 5 day transfer today. I am kind of worry, but my RE assure me there's still chances. The embryos all growing fine until day 4, then slow down! He said it one day behind. All of them. He asked how many we want to put back. He suggested 2, but we decided put 3 and he is okay with it. The other 2 will be freeze if it survive until day 6. I feel fine after transfer and no cramps whatsoever. But it hard to be positive knowingly we transferred slow grow embryos. I hope they make it. Good luck to other ladies that have their ET and ET this week, oh and also IUI.

rona keeping everything crossed for you, and that the embryos grow better inside mommy. make sure you rest loads and have a safe trip back

 

[crystal443]

Hi ladies, did the 5 day transfer today. I am kind of worry, but my RE assure me there's still chances. The embryos all growing fine until day 4, then slow down! He said it one day behind. All of them. He asked how many we want to put back. He suggested 2, but we decided put 3 and he is okay with it. The other 2 will be freeze if it survive until day 6. I feel fine after transfer and no cramps whatsoever. But it hard to be positive knowingly we transferred slow grow embryos. I hope they make it. Good luck to other ladies that have their ET and ET this week, oh and also IUI.

Best of Luck!!!


Daisy- good luck to you Our first FS was like yours only she was female it was very difficult to get an explanation about things

 

[drsquid]

rona- fingers and legs crossed (well til 10 am when i need to uncross them for my iui).

daisy- that sucks that you cant get straight answers. if anything mine gets a bit too involved, i cant remember research for my own job but i can tell you every detail of the studies he told me about. i dont know if it is just me he talks to like this or not but.. he drew on at least 4 sheets of paper the day i was upset. funny too cause he gets all aspie about it.. stares off into space while talking etc. it reassures me though cause i know he doesnt pick stuff at random. when people were saying the dose of gonal seemed too high i didnt worry cause i know he has read EVERYTHING.. (and i found online where the maker says that over 35 you start at 225).

as far as multiples go.. that would suck.. i upset people on another thread so i will only say.. i have no interest in multiples and will leave it at that.

hrm now to find something to wear that accesorizes with "naked from the waist down"

 

[noasaint]

Hi ladies! I'm 38, DH is 40, TTC since 2008. I've got PCOS and hypothyroid although the thyroid has been controlled for years. We did clomid, no response at all. Last cycle did GonalF, too much response. Trying to moving on to IVF but we'll see if insurance approves it. I don't want to wait too much longer as I refuse to not be pregnant by 40.

Sending baby dust to all!

 

[DaisyQ]

I hear you on multiples. I really only want one baby (at a time) but at this point, if I ended up with twins I'm ok with it. I'd rather twins than no baby.

I'm sure your doctor talks to you differently because you are also a doctor there is a mutual respect there and it's more of an equal playing ground. I find that some doctors assume that that I know nothing, and could not be intelligent enough to understand, so they don't bother explaining. Most doctors I've gone to take the time to get to know me, and once they see I am educated, and a professional in a health field, they speak to me more like an equal. My experience with this practice and this doctor so far, is they just don't take the time to get to know or establish rapport with their patients. It's very much a factory, and they simply don't want to take the time to explain, and they assume I'm a desperate, hysterical woman of medium intelligence, so why bother?

You might wonder why I don't find a doctor I like better. It's because he's good and comes highly recommended. I don't have to like him as long as he's effective.

 

[DaisyQ]

Welcome noasaint. It's good at least that you responded well to the injections. Hope you get approved for IVF asap!

 

[sarahincanada]

as far as multiples go.. that would suck.. i upset people on another thread so i will only say.. i have no interest in multiples and will leave it at that.

ha thats funny, perhaps it was your choice of wording. I also didnt want multiples and thats why I was going to only transfer 1 embryo per FET for that reason. I always felt in the minority though as most people on here would love multiples. the thought of carrying more than one terrified me when I really thought of it. and after spending time with my bf and her 16 month old I thought omg how would I do this x 2. Then again I am planning on having a 2nd asap so I suppose it will be crazy no matter what the ages. I always think multiples is lovely for others, just not for me.

drsquid if you are so set on one baby doesnt it worry you to be doing procedures that result in multiple follicles? you said you had 5 follicles at 15mm....a lot of clinics wont do IUI on someone with that many and if you are really not wanting multiples Im surprised you are going ahead.

 

[drsquid]

sarah- i think what upset people is i said i was willing to reduce, even possibly with twins. someone pregnant with twins felt i was saying she should reduce (which of course i wasnt, i had no idea she was pregnant with twins). i had two rounds with several follicles and nothing.. at 39 generally the risk is higher to get nothing, than multiples

daisy- i know how you feel with sticking with someone with results. the other doc in the office i go to is known to have crappy bedside manner etc. my doc, well, when i met him he was crazy stiff etc. everyone else at work (the us techs work with him a lot for ivf) say he is so quiet etc. ive picked on him since day one and he isnt quiet once you know him. i dont know what patients think about him. yeah im a doc but in a different field. i did like that he didnt bother spelling out what med he meant on the phone the other day (and also found it cute he texted me later to be sure i knew what he meant). sometimes docs dont do it on purpose. it can be hard to figure out what to say. i often find it hard to know/remember what people know. you spend a lot of years doing somethng and lose track of what is common knowledge and what isnt

 

[manuiti]

Daisy - hope you get a decent explanation, and one that puts your mind at ease.

Drsquid - best of luck with your iui, sounds like you're definitely in with a good chance. And if you're happy & willing to reduce if you do get multiples, then less to worry about. It's a very personal choice and it's yours to make and no one should be making you feel bad about it, just as no one should feel bad if their decision is for keeping multiples. These are our own very personal decisions. My clinic will only put a max of 2 back for IVF. I'd be ok with having twins, not sure how I'd cope, but I'd be okay with that. But I wouldn't want more than that in one go. Last week on the news here they had a woman who gave birth to quintuplets, and they said that she was undergoing fertility treatment.

:wave: and welcome noasaint!

afm - I'm just back from my ER. I'm a little sore but nothing major... might take some paracetamol in a bit just to be on the safe side, but it's no worse than and feels a bit like really bad trapped wind. lol And more to the point, they got 4 good eggs out of my 5 follicles! I was so happy I burst out crying when my RE told me. The nurses were teasing him for making me cry. So I'm quietly hopeful. At least we've got over this hurdle. Next one... fertilisation. And they're going to call me tomorrow morning to let me know how many have made it that far. Fingers crossed!

 

[drsquid]

Sigh. Got a sperm count today. Wish id done it sooner. Number was good, motility was good. Progression sucked. So basically they just sit there and wiggle. I'm kinda bummed and pissed now. What a waste of 3 cycles and possibly this 4 th though I'm hoping having a ton of eggs will help. The doc said he can't say that isn't why I'm not getting pregnant but he'd recommend changing donors. Fuck. I wish I'd known last failed cycle (or the first for that matter). Thousands of bucks for sperm that sit on the couch with a remote.

 

[DaisyQ]

Manuiti! Great news. All you need is one. FX they all fertilize and you get the pick of the litter for ET.

Squid, I responded RE the sperm count the IUI thread.

 

[noasaint]

Omg my insurance approved IVF with no hassles!!! Now I am nervous

 

[DaisyQ]

That's fantastic! Yay!

I've been doing some research today online about IVF success rates (if it comes to that for me). I found out that the practice I am going to has a 54% pregnancy rate for my age range, which is pretty good, but another practice that would actually be pretty convenient for me to go to has a success rate of 68%... I'm thinking of switching practices... Seems like a BIG difference. For FET too - 22% where I currently go, vs. 62.6% at this other place.

 

[DaisyQ]

Squid, Sarah, anyone else - your thoughts on comparing success rates between clinics? Should this be a deciding factor? Seems obvious, but I'm not sure. My particular doctor (who we've established, I don't actually LIKE that much), seems to have a very good success rate anectodotally (I know of several people he's "knocked up.) And I wouldn't know which doctor to go to at this other place, although I'm not sure it matters because it seems that you see a different doctor for monitoring, ER and transfer, depending on who is doing it that day.