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anyone over 35 going for fertility treatments this year? IUI, IVF etc
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Hello Ladies!
congrats Rona.
Rona> I will plan to go CNY Albany too for IVF but could you please give me a detail as you can if it is possible who is your Doctor Name and how long did you do the stimulation? number of follicle and eggs fertilize ect..... And how much exactly did you paid with or without medicine?
Sorry, Ladies for me to ask that with Rona because I did Ivf last week then my FS couldn't rich my eggs on my left ovary then he got only one egg on my Right ovary then it was no fertilize. I was very disappointed for that because I paid it from my pocket my specialist never said during monitoring my left ovary is behind my uterus.
Thanks.
congrats Rona.
Rona> I will plan to go CNY Albany too for IVF but could you please give me a detail as you can if it is possible who is your Doctor Name and how long did you do the stimulation? number of follicle and eggs fertilize ect..... And how much exactly did you paid with or without medicine?
Sorry, Ladies for me to ask that with Rona because I did Ivf last week then my FS couldn't rich my eggs on my left ovary then he got only one egg on my Right ovary then it was no fertilize. I was very disappointed for that because I paid it from my pocket my specialist never said during monitoring my left ovary is behind my uterus.
Thanks.
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Hi Piso, not a problem and I am sorry about your last IVF. IVF cycle always like test and trial until your RE knows what meds and dose you have to take. Here the answer, but it alll depends on your age also.
My RE is Dr. Grossman, he did my first IVF ER and ET, and also my 2nd ET. But the transfer for my 2nd IVF done by Dr. Montalto. I never heard of him, but luckily I have few internet friends that did many IVF cycles at CNY and they are really a big helps in tips and such. When I heard other RE will do my transfer I am not happy, but my friend told me that he is wonderful and she was right. I like Dr. Montalto. Very calm, takes his time and love what he does. Dr. Grossman reply email quickly and listen to you and will try find the best protocol for you. But off all you need to tell him the issues so he can give you best protocol and dose.
My out of town nurse is Greta Joost. She is incredibly super! I don't know how she do it, but she managed many out of town patients, but always on top of it. She will reply your email day and night and weekend if she can.
I am 40, so I am consider a slow responder. So for my first IVF Dr. Grossman suggested that I do long lupron...and I said NO. That's because I read so many women over 40 over suppressed and their follicles never grow. When I asked him why he choose long lupron, he said that's their standard for all first IVF timer. But he really listen, if you don't want and you give reason, he is okay with it. So I did antagonist. I used:
150 Menopur
150 Bravelle
Cetrotide
Estrace
Dexamethasone
Hcg trigger 10,000
Endometrin (after ET)
I was stimmed for 8 days. 9 follicles. 6 matured and 6 fertilized nicely. They choosed Day 5 for transfer. But on day 4 all the embryos slow grow and I don't have good feeling about it. I transferred 3 and none to freeze. That cycle was BFN.
Before my first cycle my Dr. here in Austin found 1mm polyp. But its too late for me to cancelled my 1st IVF, so I go ahead did the IVF with polyp. But after failed, I immediately scheduled the polyp surgery. It went well. He found 2 instead of 1 polyp. But it was a nightmare, my cycle never get back to regular, so I cannot start my 2nd IVF immediately. Took over 100 days for my period to come back. I still ovulated normally (based on bloodwork) but my period was 'stuck' inside. Based on the bloodwork test (baseline) they determine where I am in my cycle. Dr. Grossman want me to do Estrogen Priming Protocol (EPP) this time. I suppose to take estrace for about 20 days then stop and then take BCP for 7 days and stop. Once I stopped I should get my period, but half way through my estrace, I got full blown heavy period! So I never get into my BCP.
Here what I have for my 2nd IVF:
300 menopur
300 bravelle
Cetrotide
Estrace
Hcg 10,000
crinone (after ET)
I was stimmed for 12 days! My lead follicle growing 5mm ahead of others and my nurse said we have to sacrifice that one to make sure others growing. I was sad, but thankfully it waited for others
. They saw about 9 follicles, retrieved 6 mature and 4 fertilized. I wanted Day 3 transfer because from my first IVF if I waited till day 5, the embryos will slow grow again. The embryos looks better than the first IVF. Even I have don't have perfect 8 cells, I still happy. I asked Dr. Montalto to transfer all 4. He kind of hesitant, but when he knew I am 40 and I told him that my first IVF all the embryos slow grow, he agreed to transfer all 4.
Great thing about CNY is they are super cheap compare to other places. They have package and I got 3 cycles with 3 fresh and 3 FET (If you have FET, you need to use it first before going into new cycle).
At that time, you have to pay 50% downpayment and split the balance either 12 or 24 months. Without interest. But I think if you choose over 12 months they will charge one time Admin fee, which not that much. I purchased the 3 cycles for $7500, I managed to negotiate with them that only can afford to pay $2400 downpayment and split others into 12 months and they very generous to accept that and by April 2013 I will finished pay it all. You don't need to go through hassle getting loan from other organization, it from CNY itself. So no hassle, not much paperwork like borrowing from bank. Super easy.
I just read their website, starting few weeks ago, they allow NO DOWNPAYMENT! You can finance entire amount into monthly payments.
As for meds, if you cannot afford it, they always can help for the first round. I was lucky enough I got my bravelle, menopur, endometrin from them from the donation. Infact I still have some left from my first IVF to carry to my 2nd IVF cycle. I am super thankful for that. They normally only help for first round only, then you have to purchase yourself for the second one. But it also depends what they have at that time.
I hope I answered your questions, and let me know if anything not clear and good luck. I am still very cautious. My first ultrasound will be on 10/10/2012.
My RE is Dr. Grossman, he did my first IVF ER and ET, and also my 2nd ET. But the transfer for my 2nd IVF done by Dr. Montalto. I never heard of him, but luckily I have few internet friends that did many IVF cycles at CNY and they are really a big helps in tips and such. When I heard other RE will do my transfer I am not happy, but my friend told me that he is wonderful and she was right. I like Dr. Montalto. Very calm, takes his time and love what he does. Dr. Grossman reply email quickly and listen to you and will try find the best protocol for you. But off all you need to tell him the issues so he can give you best protocol and dose.
My out of town nurse is Greta Joost. She is incredibly super! I don't know how she do it, but she managed many out of town patients, but always on top of it. She will reply your email day and night and weekend if she can.
I am 40, so I am consider a slow responder. So for my first IVF Dr. Grossman suggested that I do long lupron...and I said NO. That's because I read so many women over 40 over suppressed and their follicles never grow. When I asked him why he choose long lupron, he said that's their standard for all first IVF timer. But he really listen, if you don't want and you give reason, he is okay with it. So I did antagonist. I used:
150 Menopur
150 Bravelle
Cetrotide
Estrace
Dexamethasone
Hcg trigger 10,000
Endometrin (after ET)
I was stimmed for 8 days. 9 follicles. 6 matured and 6 fertilized nicely. They choosed Day 5 for transfer. But on day 4 all the embryos slow grow and I don't have good feeling about it. I transferred 3 and none to freeze. That cycle was BFN.
Before my first cycle my Dr. here in Austin found 1mm polyp. But its too late for me to cancelled my 1st IVF, so I go ahead did the IVF with polyp. But after failed, I immediately scheduled the polyp surgery. It went well. He found 2 instead of 1 polyp. But it was a nightmare, my cycle never get back to regular, so I cannot start my 2nd IVF immediately. Took over 100 days for my period to come back. I still ovulated normally (based on bloodwork) but my period was 'stuck' inside. Based on the bloodwork test (baseline) they determine where I am in my cycle. Dr. Grossman want me to do Estrogen Priming Protocol (EPP) this time. I suppose to take estrace for about 20 days then stop and then take BCP for 7 days and stop. Once I stopped I should get my period, but half way through my estrace, I got full blown heavy period! So I never get into my BCP.
Here what I have for my 2nd IVF:
300 menopur
300 bravelle
Cetrotide
Estrace
Hcg 10,000
crinone (after ET)
I was stimmed for 12 days! My lead follicle growing 5mm ahead of others and my nurse said we have to sacrifice that one to make sure others growing. I was sad, but thankfully it waited for others
. They saw about 9 follicles, retrieved 6 mature and 4 fertilized. I wanted Day 3 transfer because from my first IVF if I waited till day 5, the embryos will slow grow again. The embryos looks better than the first IVF. Even I have don't have perfect 8 cells, I still happy. I asked Dr. Montalto to transfer all 4. He kind of hesitant, but when he knew I am 40 and I told him that my first IVF all the embryos slow grow, he agreed to transfer all 4.Great thing about CNY is they are super cheap compare to other places. They have package and I got 3 cycles with 3 fresh and 3 FET (If you have FET, you need to use it first before going into new cycle).
At that time, you have to pay 50% downpayment and split the balance either 12 or 24 months. Without interest. But I think if you choose over 12 months they will charge one time Admin fee, which not that much. I purchased the 3 cycles for $7500, I managed to negotiate with them that only can afford to pay $2400 downpayment and split others into 12 months and they very generous to accept that and by April 2013 I will finished pay it all. You don't need to go through hassle getting loan from other organization, it from CNY itself. So no hassle, not much paperwork like borrowing from bank. Super easy.
I just read their website, starting few weeks ago, they allow NO DOWNPAYMENT! You can finance entire amount into monthly payments.
As for meds, if you cannot afford it, they always can help for the first round. I was lucky enough I got my bravelle, menopur, endometrin from them from the donation. Infact I still have some left from my first IVF to carry to my 2nd IVF cycle. I am super thankful for that. They normally only help for first round only, then you have to purchase yourself for the second one. But it also depends what they have at that time.
I hope I answered your questions, and let me know if anything not clear and good luck. I am still very cautious. My first ultrasound will be on 10/10/2012.
Hiya all Hope you are all well 
Not been around for ages as we have just moved home..... Still nothing for us on the baby front...
I have lost a stone and a half and have had couple more months of bloods taken and things seem good with them ( but not sure what is good so will ask about what are good sfh lh and Serum oestradiol levels on another post)
We are hoping to start IVF if everything is ok for us to start next week - I go to have a scan on my egg reserve.......
I am praying this will work for us...
Not been around for ages as we have just moved home..... Still nothing for us on the baby front...
I have lost a stone and a half and have had couple more months of bloods taken and things seem good with them ( but not sure what is good so will ask about what are good sfh lh and Serum oestradiol levels on another post)
We are hoping to start IVF if everything is ok for us to start next week - I go to have a scan on my egg reserve.......
I am praying this will work for us...
Thank you.
Huge congrats to you.
would love to know your full story... maybe if you don't mind you could tell me how things have been for you via pm as you are similar age to me and my oh. :0) xxHi everyone! Lots of experience on this thread so I thought I would pose my question here. We just did 3 IUI's all resulting in BFN's. Each IUI w/ injects for me costs about $1500 (no coverage). I am a good responder to the meds, producing 3-4 good size each time, and my dh sperm count is through the roof.
My question is this. I can come up with $15,000 for ONE IVF cycle, but that would be it. We would have no other way to come up with that kind of money again unless we save, but I am 40 and don't have a lot of time. I was excited to start IVF until I realized I would be depleating our entire funding pool with one procedure, that may or may not work. Talk about putting all of your eggs in one basket! The other option is to do more IUI's. I could do several more IUI's with that money. I think I am also going to ask my doc to do another HSG since it has been a few years since my last one and I hear it can have a "cleaning out" effect.
Would you do the multiple IUI's or the ONE IVF? I have unexplained infertility. I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Thanks and
My question is this. I can come up with $15,000 for ONE IVF cycle, but that would be it. We would have no other way to come up with that kind of money again unless we save, but I am 40 and don't have a lot of time. I was excited to start IVF until I realized I would be depleating our entire funding pool with one procedure, that may or may not work. Talk about putting all of your eggs in one basket!
The other option is to do more IUI's. I could do several more IUI's with that money. I think I am also going to ask my doc to do another HSG since it has been a few years since my last one and I hear it can have a "cleaning out" effect. Would you do the multiple IUI's or the ONE IVF? I have unexplained infertility. I look forward to hearing your thoughts. Thanks and
Suzi...can you get on DHEA and see how that works? Supposedly that helps egg quality and perhaps that is the issue with you? I had two rounds of IVF, responded splendidly to the meds and had lots of eggs that even made it to 5 day embryos but one one in each cycle would pass the PGD (genetic testing) We just yesterday did an IUI and lets see what happens... I actually went straight to IVF so I am doing things backwards LOL. I have been on the DHEA since about the end of July so who knows what will happen next.
Best of luck to you!
Best of luck to you!
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Hi Suzi,
Welcome. We are at the same age. If you want my honest opinion, at 40 you cannot wait too long anymore. The quality of eggs will be lower and it will be harder and lower success if you start your IVF late.
I only did 3 IUIs and all failed. I response really well also. Beautiful eggs and size but still not pregnant. I also unexplained. Can you survey and compare clinics around your area? Not all places expensive. Remember that you also have to pay the meds, which not cheap. It can cost you $3500 to $6000 depending on your protocol.
Before I decided to go to NY for my IVF, I was looking over 15 clinics. It ranges from $17,000 down to $5500, not include meds. One place at my town even offer, $15,000 and then free until you get pregnant (just pay meds and all procedures cost). But I ended going to NY because they help me cover my first round meds.
Whatever it is, nothing is easy when deal with financial. But with planning and research, you will find something that fit your budget
Good luck and let me know if you have any questions..
Welcome. We are at the same age
. If you want my honest opinion, at 40 you cannot wait too long anymore. The quality of eggs will be lower and it will be harder and lower success if you start your IVF late.I only did 3 IUIs and all failed. I response really well also. Beautiful eggs and size but still not pregnant. I also unexplained. Can you survey and compare clinics around your area? Not all places expensive. Remember that you also have to pay the meds, which not cheap. It can cost you $3500 to $6000 depending on your protocol.
Before I decided to go to NY for my IVF, I was looking over 15 clinics. It ranges from $17,000 down to $5500, not include meds. One place at my town even offer, $15,000 and then free until you get pregnant (just pay meds and all procedures cost). But I ended going to NY because they help me cover my first round meds.
Whatever it is, nothing is easy when deal with financial. But with planning and research, you will find something that fit your budget
Good luck and let me know if you have any questions..
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DD tomorrow, nothing happening
had a mini stretch and sweep on tuesday, lost my plug over a couple of days.
no contractions though
oh wow GOOD LUCK!!! how many follicles did you have?
Suzi Q...thats a hard choice. My first thought is just to go to IVF, as soooo many people on here have failed IUI's but success with IVF.
I did 3 IUIs all with good response but BFNs. With IVF I responded really well and ended up with 10 blasts...2 didnt work and then the 3rd did (due date tomorrow!) and I have 7 frozen. (We dont do testing here in Canada so not sure how many of the 7 will be good). I think that perhaps my egg shells were too hard for the sperm to penetrate, seeing as I responded really well with IVF. Also they ICSI'd all my eggs, I didnt want to take the chance to see what they did in the dish and risk losing good eggs, so if you do IVF I would add ICSI too. I took high absorbancy Co-Q10 before my IVF too, not sure if that helped but theres articles that says its good for older eggs.
Its a hard call, if you tried the IVF and it didnt work could you find the money for a couple more IUI's after? There is one girl on here that her 6th IUI worked, with twins! its crazy to me that all those months didnt work and then it worked x2. She is younger though. When I first came on this site there were a few older IUI girls who had success but it was by the 2nd try. Its a hard decision but I would be inclined to try the IVF just basing on my experience. Good luck
LLBean: I have not tried DHEA yet, although I checked it out in the store the otherday. I did just buy Royal Jelly with bee pollen which is also supposed to help egg quality. Have you had any side effects from the DHEA?
Rona: Thanks for your thoughts and Congrats on your
! I have "shopped" around at the few clinics in Phoenix but only looked at success rates. I should also check on prices, that is a good suggestion.
Sarah: Congrats! That is very exciting, I bet you can't wait to meet your little one! I was thinking the same thing, maybe I could squeeze in a couple of IUI's if the IVF didn't work, or try IUI two more times then move to IVF. I guess there are options but I'm sure everyone can relate to the sense of panic I have about wanting/needing it to happen sooner than later. How long were you on Co-Q10 before your successful IVF? Did you do any accupuncture?
Thanks,Ladies! I knew I would get good advice on here. Guess I have some decisions to make.
Rona: Thanks for your thoughts and Congrats on your
! I have "shopped" around at the few clinics in Phoenix but only looked at success rates. I should also check on prices, that is a good suggestion. Sarah: Congrats! That is very exciting, I bet you can't wait to meet your little one! I was thinking the same thing, maybe I could squeeze in a couple of IUI's if the IVF didn't work, or try IUI two more times then move to IVF. I guess there are options but I'm sure everyone can relate to the sense of panic I have about wanting/needing it to happen sooner than later. How long were you on Co-Q10 before your successful IVF? Did you do any accupuncture?
Thanks,Ladies! I knew I would get good advice on here. Guess I have some decisions to make.
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