breast is no longer best...new research

[ellismum]

It's the australian telegraph so I see.

I thought it was wrong that a UK newspaper other than dailymail or the sun (lol) were being 'anti' BF when the UK is working so hard to promote breastfeeding and trying to educate people who don't know much about it and chose to FF because thats all they know from family members and friends.

erm...the same story was featured in the UK paper and site too.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/...r-for-baby-than-formula-scientist-claims.html

This story was in the Daily Mail about a month ago too.

 

[tasha41]

There's conviences to both and both have their negatives. I still think FF is easier in the beginning cos BF is sooo hard for the first few weeks but then I think BF is way easier (not that FF is difficult lol).

I agree and I hope my post didn't sound like FF is harder, it was never hard. Reading about what BFing mothers go through in the beginning sometimes is really enlightening, it's beautiful that they believe in it and desire to do it so much that they go through some of the things they do. Just when you start to know what you're doing BFing and I guess it's established and going well... and I'm not talking about cases where mums run into trouble with it, just when things DO go smoothly, I sometimes wished at night I breastfed so I didn't have to go downstairs and get bottles ready. And if I didn't plan ahead I'd end up having to make up formula in the middle of the night, my own fault but it happens lol

 

[Lisa1302]

My first post did try to stay equal but getting a bit wound up by people's replies so thought I would just add!! -

When you see the adverts on telly for formula it actually says at the bottom on the sceen in small print *not a substitute for breast milk* or something along those lines so the companies obvioulsy agree breast milk is better.

well actually they wouldn't put it unless it was the law!!!
If they could get away with putting this formula is the best - they would!!

 

[Blah11]

probably because you aren't BFing and don't get the negative comments about breastfeeding. They are about.. I've had dirty looks whilst feeding my baby in public and someone told me it was disgusting once You also get sick people trying to say that BF is child abuse.

Ok so we have to put up with being looked down on by BF mums because they get looked down on?

I find time and time again this elitist attitude from BF mothers (against not all)

I tried breastfeeding but unfortunatly it didnt work. I would have liked to carry on and will do it again for #2 but getting "breast is best" shoved down my throat hasnt made me feel like trying it again its just p#ssed me off

No. All I'm saying is that everyone gets looked down upon every once in awhile so it's not just BF mothers looking down on those who FF.

 

[milkmachine]

probably because you aren't BFing and don't get the negative comments about breastfeeding. They are about.. I've had dirty looks whilst feeding my baby in public and someone told me it was disgusting once You also get sick people trying to say that BF is child abuse.

Ok so we have to put up with being looked down on by BF mums because they get looked down on?

I find time and time again this elitist attitude from BF mothers (against not all)

I tried breastfeeding but unfortunatly it didnt work. I would have liked to carry on and will do it again for #2 but getting "breast is best" shoved down my throat hasnt made me feel like trying it again its just p#ssed me off

youll find it everywhere babe, working mums hate stay at home mums, bfeeders and ff wind eachother up, chicken nugget mums Vs natual mamas...

joys of parenting

 

[Linzi]

I dont understand the need to argue about this topic. I feed my baby one way you feed yours another what is the issue?

I agree that breast probably is best as its natural but I'd rather see a baby FF then breastfed by a mother who drinks, smokes and eats crap.

I find that its not FF mothers who have any issue its usually BF as there the ones who feel there doing what is "best" and FF simple arnt through being uneducated or lazy. (not all BF mothers of course)

probably because you aren't BFing and don't get the negative comments about breastfeeding. They are about.. I've had dirty looks whilst feeding my baby in public and someone told me it was disgusting once You also get sick people trying to say that BF is child abuse.

Yeah I was gonna say... I got told once or twice I shouldn't breastfeed, I couldnt do it in front of any of my family or friends, used to have to do it in the car etc because I felt so guilty that people thought that way. Why? If I got a bottle out and fed him I wouldn't have got the abuse!!

BF was best for em & Seth because he is lactose intolerant and thats how he survived so for me, it was best. For others its not. End of. My problem is that way that people who breatfeed get told off whenever they talk about the benefits :shrugs: There are some people who get carried away but on the whole the majority of people on this board are level headed and will accept other peoples opinions & parenting styles.

x

 

[milkmachine]

you would think that as women, women together all with the same goal in mind. bringing up members of the community, MAKING PEOPLE. that we would have more respect for one another as women and not let these things cause friction...... what happened to the sisterhood?

 

[tasha41]

What the heck is a chicken nugget mum lol

 

[Blah11]

LOL chicken nugget mum

 

[Serene123]

Why do this threads have to turn into an argument seriously

As long as our babies are fed thats all that matters

I was a FF but I'm the first to admit that breast is best, i tryed and I failed. At the end of the day aidan is healthy, developing at a good rate and happy thats all that matters to me.

please read the contraversial reply amnesty thread before you post something argumentative



Lets see if we can actually not get a ff/breatfeeding thread locked!!
xx

Lol, i think some people just find it hard not to reply in a fashion where they offend people. We just have to try and ignore those people and they will soon be dealt with as the mods have stated in the amnesty thread

I for one enjoy a healthy debate but obviously try not offend anyone. I personally think that breast milk is better and i FF my daughter. But i do think that formula milk is becoming more advanced in replicating breast milk and obviously there is the convenience thing with formula (no one jump down my throat on that comment lol) x

I'm not jumping down your throat when I say this, I'm genuinly wondering why you think formula is more convenient? I, myself found popping my top up was much easier than making bottles and stuff (I've done both)

I know that wasn't directed at me..but I found FF feeding much more convenient...and I didn't swap to FF because of that either, I had other issues.
Anyway I found it more convenient because I did not feel happy whipping my boob out in public, or even in my house with visitors, my OH/mum could help with feeds, I didn't have to worry about what I was wearing in case it didn't lift properly, or deal with maternity bras.
I didnt find the bottle cleaning an issue either.

Thing is which ever way you end up feeding, by choice or not...you learn to live with the things that do not seem idea to other people - simply becuase you get on with it and don't really think about it.
I am sure that mums who BF do not see any of my points above as an issue...but to me they were..does that make sense lol?

I was the oposite. I started out FF and felt so bad. Not because of the information I was fed by everyone else (I wish I had been more clued up) but because every time someone else fed my baby I felt like I wasn't imporant. I know that's silly but that was just me. I needed to feed my baby. It was just natural for me. So I struggled so much to BF and it was the best thing I ever did because it was what me and my little girl needed to do. For us. It was much easier for us as we were both happy.

I've got so heated in these debates before but I'm trying not to anymore. Theres two sides to every story and I'd rather not be on either. Formula was invented because mothers couldn't feed their babies, I personally think it's a shame how it has developed into what it has, but that's just my opinion and I don't like that my opinions upset people. They shouldn't. They should only affect my life and my children, so sometimes it is just best that these things are put to rest before the over-sensitive people get into a fight with the angry people....


That got long..

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

^^^^

Thats what I was wondering lol

xx

 

[milkmachine]

What the heck is a chicken nugget mum lol

you know, t.v chicken nugget mum? a diet of tv and junk food as a parenting style. we all know at least on of these!! lol

 

[Blah11]

I'm very impressed with your levelheaded posts Toria, and that isn't in a patronising way whatsoever so I'm sorry if it comes across that way.

 

[milkmachine]

one not on lol

 

[mommyof3co]

I've done both formula and breastfeeding, I think both have their pros and cons as far as actually doing it. I do feel that health wise and nutrition wise the breastmilk is best, that doesn't mean formula is bad by any means. But I think not having to deal with bottles, makes breastfeeding more convenient. But then being able to have other people help with feedings makes formula easier or more convenient in that sense. Maybe I'm selfish I liked having all the feedings to myself to hold and cuddle them and have that time to myself with my 2 that I nursed haha. Good thing daddy didn't mind and bonded and spent plenty of time with them in other ways Like I said earlier, no one should feel guilty for choosing what's best for their family at that time.

 

[milkmachine]

hands up who knows a chicken nugget mum??!!

 

[helent1983]

Formula / Breast - whatever do whatever suits you and your baby best but why is it that people can't see that "breast is best" in the fact it is the most natural thing for a baby. All animals feed their own young. Why were we designed to do it if it is not the best thing to do? I have probably not explained myself very well there at all and am totally ready for any replies!!!

I am not saying formula is not great for babies as it most probably is. Maybe the saying "breast is best" should be changed to "breast is natural" or something!

xx

 

[Blah11]

I know more than 1 unfortunatly.

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

Toria you are getting your point across very well

Gas anyone noticed that the OP made this thread but hasnt replyed since. Seems like showing a bull a red rag and then watching the fireworks to me


(sorry if i am wrong OP, just seems that way)

 

[milkmachine]

Formula / Breast - whatever do whatever suits you and your baby best but why is it that people can't see that "breast is best" in the fact it is the most natural thing for a baby. All animals feed their own young. Why were we designed to do it if it is not the best thing to do? I have probably not explained myself very well there at all and am totally ready for any replies!!!

I am not saying formula is not great for babies as it most probably is. Maybe the saying "breast is best" should be changed to "breast is natural" or something!

xx

not only natural NORMAL x