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Earl is just napping on the sofa - his teeth are really bad today so I want to keep an eye on him.

Always amazes me these girls who say 'baby is asleep on sofa' or 'on floor' or in some other random place. How do you manage it? Monty sleeps in three places, and that's it. His hammock upstairs. His pram when we're out walking. His carseat when we're driving. If I attempted any other sleeping situation, he'd look me right in the eye, raise an eyebrow and say 'ha ha mum, I really don't think so, do you?' LOL There's a girl at baby yoga whose baby just drops off on the yoga mat in front of her. Monty loves being there, but there's no way he'll sleep. No way, he'd much rather pull my hair while I do cat poses above him!
 
Colsy - It's taken me a week of constant effort and a few tears to get Earl to nap anywhere else but on me during the day. He will sleep in his pushchair and carseat the same as Monty, but since Birth Earl would only nap on me. Like I say, 8 solid days of effort, nap times being a constant worry but since Friday he's been a 5 minutes and we're gone kind of boy. I even got him to nap in his cot yesterday....twice!! :thumbup:

I wrote a thread about it in Baby Club - Operation 'Nap on your Own' lol. I basically started out by laying him on my bed with me next to him, so that the transition wasn't as great, then migrated to the sofa downstairs as I was falling asleep every nap time with him :dohh:. I will lay him down with his head on one of the cushions. Give him his dummy and his muslin (Has these to sleep at night too) and cover him with a light blanket. I turn off the TV, or turn it right down volume wise, and either sit on the floor or at the other end of the sofa not looking at him. He drifts off with no crying at all withing 3-5 minutes!
 
Noah will sleep on sofa during the day we haven't cracked the cot for naps :wacko:

Aimee everyone seems to have an opinion on how to bring up others children, do what you feel is best. I keep getting 'is Noah STILL on the boob' cant win either way :hugs:

Noah's teeth driving him bonkers today :(
 
Thanks Maffie - I just got to saturation point and I know I can let it all out in here without offending anyone. It just seems everything I say/do, someone will criticise. I've even started to lie to one person in particular about things as I know that if I tell the truth then It'll just end up with me upset, and her angry at me for, in her opinion, putting Earl at risk. It's ridiculous. It seems to be a bit of a problem just recently in that people aren't entitled to have opinions anymore, unless that opinion just happens to agree with the person to whom you are speaking, in which case it's fine. If it's contradictory in any fashion.....jeez you should know your place! I thought for a while that I really was doing something wrong. It turns out that we've ended up parenting in quite a conventional manner, which isn't fashionable at the moment, so I know that has ut me out of favour with a lot of people straight away. I think it's a shame though that people in general can't see that we're all individuals (cue Monty Python quotes floating around everyone's heads lol) and we all do things differently, and as such any advice we give should be seen as valid and taken just as that....advice, not the gospel lol.

Oops....that soap box made it's way out again. Promise it wont again. Sorry :blush:

Hope Noah's teeth are ok though.... Do you find that MAM teether we both have works? I find if I put it in the freezer it will either make it better, or make it 10x worse. I have to keep a really close eye on his whenever I give it to him as he will chew until his gums are raw :dohh:
 
he hates all teethers only thing that keeps him happy is chewing my thumb and even thats not touching his discomfort today.

i feel same as you aimee i can see people think im strange with the bf and cloth nappies and baby wearing but its what feels right for us and i just have to let comments roll off
 
Chewing my finger helps Earl, but not my finger that has a bruise in the nail bed from him chewing yesterday. Poor little mites - I have to give Earl bonjela before a bottle otherwise he can't suck, and this morning I had to stop half way and re-apply it for him. I really hope these teeth come in soon, the pain just seems so futile for them at the moment.

Thanks again for the reassurance. It was that comment that I didn't love him that sent me over the edge I think lol......maternal instincts coupled with AF hormones are a lethal combination lol.
 
Mornin' girls!

Well we had really bad storms here last night. Golf ball sized hail and tornadoes. One touched down about 10 minutes from here. Caused quite a bit of damage!
Crazy stuff.

We were gonna go to a play date today but the hosts entire family has come down with that stomach virus we all had last week, it seems to be doing the rounds at the moment. Stupid Norovirus.

Well it's my babys half birthday! 6 months. Can you even believe how fast it's gone??

Autumns tooth is now fully thru! She seems much happier .. although she wasn't horrid with it, just a couple nights where she'd wake up 4 or 5 times for her dummy.

This was it last week when it had just cut the gum! :) (She was in a swing, in case you're wondering about the odd pose lol)

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Colsy ~ I've noticed it gets more quiet at weekends. I guess cause people are busy with family and such.
Re sleeping places, Autumn is like me, sleeps where her head falls lol. I have tried to be better tho and put her down for naps in her cot so she knows bedroom = relax and sleep. But when I'm feeling lazy, yea she'll sleep on the sofa or if we're out in her buggy/carseat.
It took a few weeks to crack the daytime cot naps, but I started how I started night times .. with a little routine. I'll wait for her tired cues (Shaking of the head, rubbing eyes, getting very vocal and over stimulated) then I'll say "nap time!" take her up stairs, put the noise machine on, sit her on my lap, wrap her in a blanket and once her eyes get heavy I'll lay her down for her to put her self to sleep. Like I said, it took a bit to get her used to that as she was used to having naps on me down stairs on the sofa, but it seems to be going well now.

Maffie ~ Glad the headaches gone!

Aimee ~ omg who the hell told you all that? Are they blind? Earl is thriving, all they got to do is open their eyes to see that. You're more patient than me because if someone had even dared to say that shit to me I'd have flown at them.
Re teeth, I don't remember if I mentioned this before. I read somewhere that celery out the fridge has a chemical in it that is numbing on the gums for babies. I decided to try this, (I crushed the end some so it was stringy for her) and gave it to Autumn and it really took her mind off it, she gnawed on it for hours and the best thing because celery as you know is so stringy, nothing breaks off! :)

Well my sister is coming over on Friday! I can't wait. Its the first time she's gonna meet Autumn. It's also gonna be her 19th Birthday (10 years between us) She wants to get that tattoo she had done here in the summer extended to under her ribs, its all booked for Sunday. Rather her than me .. last tattoo I had on my back I nearly turned round and clobbered him haha.
The week after that we're meeting her mum/brothers in FL to go to Disney world. I can't wait! I'm excited to see how Autumn does with the puppets. I think she'll try to lick them haha.
 
Colsy - It's taken me a week of constant effort and a few tears to get Earl to nap anywhere else but on me during the day. He will sleep in his pushchair and carseat the same as Monty, but since Birth Earl would only nap on me. Like I say, 8 solid days of effort, nap times being a constant worry but since Friday he's been a 5 minutes and we're gone kind of boy. I even got him to nap in his cot yesterday....twice!! :thumbup:

Interesting stuff! Monty is now reasonably easy to get to sleep in his hammock during the day, but like you that took a lot of effort to start with. Having got him comfortable doing that, I just don't think I can do the whole thing again but this time with another venue, such as the sofa, LOL.

By the way, Aimee, did somebody REALLY accuse you of not loving your baby? That's a pretty shocking thing to say, regardless of how they feel about your parenting choices. FWIW, Aimee, you and I have taken very different paths in terms of feeding, nappies, etc. but I have no doubt whatsoever that both of us love our child as much as the other. BTW, how did "The Sunday Phone Call" go? I am guessing that it had something to do with your rant this morning, so I hope it wasn't too traumatic :hugs:
 
Thanks ladies.

Colsy - Yes the phone call is something to do with it, aswell as an old lady at the Dr's (old ladies :roll:) and a couple of comments from friends, relatives, but last night really tipped me over the edge. My Mum is the one who said that I need to find 'a more suitable family environment' for Earl. We've had an inkling for a while that she doesn't like Hubby and especially since we've spoken to her about moving to Norwich. She has been going to church and the conversation yesterday was mainly to do with 'converting' us to the proper way of life. In the end I told her that I'll be judged when my time comes and not by anyone else, and that includes my Mum, and hung up.

But the child-rearing criticisms were mainly that she's been talking to a couple of women she knows. She works at a Dr's surgery, so comes into contact with MW's and HV's. Bring the proud grandma she was telling one of the MW's about how I'm raising Earl and apparently becuase the MW said that Earl shouldn't be in his own room yet according to guidelines, she was worried that I was putting him in his own room too early, which apparently means I'm ignoring him and therefore don't love him. She also said that I should have at least tried BFing (the MW not my Mum) which my Mum took to mean that I had done it for selfish reasons rather than my own personal logical ones! I did fly off the handle but she's my Mum and I can't really tell her off too much. She's just concerned and has a very strange way of showing it. :nope:

Chaos - I remember you talking about celery. Thanks for the reminder. I will be going to the supermarket tomorrow so will ick some up and give Earl a go. I think we've tried Carrot sticks on the advice of my next door neighbour who has 3 boys but Earl doesn't like the taste :dohh: lol Gorgeous pictures of Autumn....nice to see some teeth appearing on these babies....we all seem to have been having problems for such a long time. I'm not looking forward to the rest coming through with Earl though....him using my finger as a teether is ok at the moment but maybe not so when he's got a few gnashers lol. :dohh:
 
Colsy ~ Oo, hope Monty keeps up the 1 feed for you :flower: Bless him trying to chew his toes, hmm, maybe it's not meat . . toe-'cheese' maybe :wink: :haha: Chloe has learnt a screechy noise too, one min its all quiet and the next you get the fright of your life! Hope the move into the cot bed goes smoothly.

Maffie ~ That's unfair! The things our bodies put us through! :flower:

Aimee ~ Speechless! Bagh some people honestly! :hugs: I think I have said it before a while back, even us as Bumpkins do things differently but just because it's different doesn't mean one way is right and the other is wrong. I like it how we all do things differently becasue if I try something and it doesn't work I think, hmm if I do what so-and-so did I wonder if that will work? Anywhoo, you are an amazing Mummy to Earl :flower: [JUST READ OTHER POST] Oh no, I hate those kind of religious people who say 'love thy neighbour' and all that kind of preaching yet are the worst kind for looking down on everyone else and judging them and telling them how it should be done . . . narrow minded . . . ! :growlmad: Good for you on hanging up! :hugs: Oh, and we all know how useful the HV and MW's advice can be sometimes! There is many a rant on this forum, now I know they are good for something but other stuff they are just plain useless. Like I asked them what I should do about nuts when Chloe is being weaned as Nij is allergic and I was referred to my 0-5 book which says speak to a HV :wacko: :dohh: :wacko: So yeah, they are the font of all knowledge! Sorry she has singled out our OH too, parents make no sence at times, she prob taking something out on him for a daft reason.

Chaos ~ OMG!!! :happydance: Happy 6 Months to Autumn!! :happydance:

Oooooo your Sis is real brave, not that I have had one done there but I have know many that have and ribs are pretty much one of theeee most painful places to get a tattoo.

He he, I would freak at Disney, I would love to go though, it's just something about people in costumes that gets me all scared. Think I might have to overcome this for Chloe, I just hate the unpredictablitiy of them.

Thanks for the celery tip :thumbup:

Re teething / teethers: Chloe has some key teethers that she has taken to, nothing else seems to work as she can't hold or chew them properly. Saturday she split her gum at the top she was biting so hard and the fabric book she was munching got blood all over it. She is fine now though. Has anyone else's LO done this?
 
Re teething / teethers: Chloe has some key teethers that she has taken to, nothing else seems to work as she can't hold or chew them properly. Saturday she split her gum at the top she was biting so hard and the fabric book she was munching got blood all over it. She is fine now though. Has anyone else's LO done this?

Not Autumn, but a few months back my friends 1 year old who had no teeth yet did this. She was chewing and all of a sudden lots of blood. Apparently sometimes when a tooth is trying to push thru they can get a little blood blister on top of it and when they chew on something hard, it pops it.
 
Thanks :flower:, will keep an eye on it, couldn't see a white mark there yet but as she is badly teething again it may be on its way!
 
Holy crap you ladies can talk on a Monday, lol!

Flora- hope the dress fitting gors well today! You must be getting so excited :) I hear you about the dwindling social life- my best friend who lives really close by doesn't understand that I can't just pick up and go out in the evenings the way I used to since it totally messes with Emma's routine. I guess she'll learn what it's like when she has kids, but in the meantime it does suck. DH's new job means that he'll have our car all day (he used to have a company car) so I'm dreading the rainy days when I will be stuck at home :wacko:

Aimee- good to hear that Earl adjusted well to the clock change. We had ours a few weeks ago and it seemed to readjust Emma's internal clock in a good way too. I'm sorry to hear the phone call with your mum didn't go well. You're a fabulous mum and Earl is lucky to have you. Like Kte said, all the bumpkins do things a little different but it's just because we all have very different babies. I might fall into the BFing, babywearing, cloth diapering, co-sleeping category, and while some of it was planned (the BFing and some cloth diapering), really, it's Emma's temperment that has led us down the "granola crunching" path :shrug: There isn't one right way- it's about what's right for you, Earl and hubby :hugs:

Maffie- hope you are feeling better :hugs: That totally sucks that your meds aren't compatible with BFing. Noah's a lucky boy to have you- I don't know if I could cope with your migraines! I hope Noah's teeth aren't too bad. We've had a few days of gnawing on hands here too- can't wait for the tooth/teeth to finally make an appearance! Emma's favourite teether is my hand too.

Nij- hope the "drunkless hangover" cleared :)

Chaos- Hope your hubby's birthday party was fun! That is such a cute photo of Autumn! I can't believe she's 6 mths already!! Gosh, they are growing up way too fast :cry: Sounds like you have lots of fun planned for your sister's visit!

LK- sounds like a well deserved, fun night out :) James sounds cute, trying to figure out crawling

Kte- I suppose if "preganacy brain" doesn't go away, then that does explain my mum :haha: Emma hasn't split the gum yet, but I think she broke skin on her knuckle from chewing her hand. She woke up this morning with a mysterious abrasion on her hand and I can't think of what else could have caused it.

Colsy- Way to go Monty for dropping a night feed! Out of curiosity, do you plan on raising Monty to be veggie? The reason I ask is that I'm veggie but DH isn't so we're going to let Emma kind of decide a la BLW. I'm pretty sure she's going to be a meat-eater since she's obsessed with everything that goes in hubby's mouth. We've started blw but haven't given her any proteins or dairy yet.

Had a busy weekend with my brother and DH's bro over (if I say brother and BIL, I think it sounds like my brother has a "life partner", lol- not that there would be anything wrong with it if he did, haha...). Emma definitely recognizes my brother since she sees him often but was weary of DH's brother who she hasn't seen since xmas- it was interesting to watch her reactions to them. Having a quiet day today- Emma's swimming lessons are later but I don't really feel like going but since we don't have very many left, I guess we'll drag our butts there. It completely clashes with when she needs a nap and while she's usually pretty good during the lesson, she always meltsdown in the change room as she's super tired and cold by then. Hope everyone is well!
 
Evening all :flower:

Going to have a word with my boss tomorrow to change my hours. Absolutely had it with the CM, so much so I really do not feel happy leaving Chloe with her. I was hoping by now things would have calmed down but they just haven't and everyday she brands Chloe as 'unsettled', Show me a 5 month old teething baby that isn't! Regardless, she is still on about weaning too and I have also found she lied to me about not lying babies flat. If its her personal preference fine but don't lie to me about it! Nij told her we gave her some porridge on Saturday so she thinks we are weaning now and said she sould have been told . . . we are not weaning her, I was seeing if she is ready and both Nij and I agreed she isn't, her poo was a bit iffy on Sat aft so we decided now is not the time, it could be because of teething, but it made no difference and she wasn't bothered at all about the food. We are going to check again in a few more weeks. Anywhoo, she told Nij I should call her! Erm, why? Im all for telling her things but in my opinion there is nothing to tell.

She said Chloe was so unsettled again today, so much so the other kids had fingers in their ears and she said she felt sorry for them . . .what do I pay this woman for? Chloe was fine Fri, Sat and Sunday and we had her cousins over so you would have thought she would play heck then but nope, not a peep. I thought maybe she is finding it difficult being with someone else as sometimes she can get upset but then I thought, surely not after 4 weeks. CM also said her dad went home as he was so distressed, I thought, yeah with you. She already told me she had an argument with her dad about not picking up Chloe and settling her so I think he is more pissed at his daughter than Chloe herself.

Chloe has been fine this evening, she has had some bonjela and half a dose of calpol as she was still chomping after the bonjela but thats not bad and I feel so lucky with her behavour and can not understand it, this woman must be doing something wrong for it to happen everyday.

KAties: If you go, enjoy the swimming :flower:
 
Kte we ahve days where Noah doesnt settle at all, and food doesn't affect how settled he is. Im so sorry you dropped on a rubbish CM. Gosh im dreading looking. You have to do whats best for you and Chloe :hugs:
 
Kte - She sounds like a fright! I would probably ask to sit in for a morning/afternoon to make sure that Chloe is ok in her care or if there's something obvious. How long have you got left with her? If it's only a matter of weeks, then it might not be worth the hassle of finding new childcare etc but any more than that, I'd tell her that you're looking for an alternative as she's obviously not meeting Chloe's demands.....after all that's what she's there for. She's not a glorified baby monitor, she's there to take care of Chloe's needs, not report back that she's cried. Babies cry...that's what they do. She's obviously doing something wrong for Chloe to be 'unsettled' constantly and so different from home. ....ooh my soap box is getting some use today lol.

Earl has been bad for his teeth today too....and it takes the full arsenal sometimes to keep him calm. He's been so bubbly though aside from all that. We've cracked tummy time too.....finally. It would appear that what we were doing wrong was trying to get him to do it on the floor. If we do it on the sofa, or on the changing table it's a winner. I was ducking down behind the table playing peekaboo and he was in proper little hysterics. He's also propping himself up on his hads straight away and kicking his legs like crazy......taking bets for when he starts crawling. Any takers? lol :haha:
 
Kte- massive :hugs: I hope your boss is able to change your hours for you. I feel so bad for you guys- sounds like a sressful situation all round. I can't believe she didn't pick Chloe up when she was crying! I know 100% Emma would be just as "unsettled" in that situation too. Is it difficult to find a new CM where you live?
 
Hi Girls -

Haven't been on for a while..

Kte - didn't want to read and run, the CM sounds like a nightmare and not up to looking after a baby. I too would be very offended if a CM kept saying my child was 'unsettled' it's her job to settle her, she sounds like a but of a lazy arse!

Isla's doing pretty good, she's now sleeping through, she might wake but goes back to sleep herself and I'm no longer feeding her in the night. I've stopped breastfeeding and my boobs are like boulders.. not great!

Time's going by quick can't believe she'll be 6 month before I know it.

Only got another 2 weeks in London before we move to Norwich and I'm back to work in a new job after the Easter hols..eeek, I'm going to miss my gorgeous girls!

Love the pics of the other bumpkins!
 
Days I could understand but it seems to be every damn day, a handful of good comments vs far to many negatives, thats all!

I told her she was teething badly yesterday yet she used no bonjela or even calpol, she can but doesn't like to.

The other CM or nursaries are either fully booked or cost too much.

:cry: I dont want to feel like I am over reacting but something just isnt right, the 1 day a weeks were fine. If I sat in she would just pretend, I have explained how I do things, she can call me anytime if needs be. We have known her since I was 12 weeks pregnant, she talked the talk, we inspected the house, talked to other parents. I think since her OH now works away all week she has taken on too much, wont admit it and Chloe is getting the brunt, she is expected to act older than what she is.
 
Evening ladies. Sorry I havn't been on but my dad is getting in a right grump about me being on the laptop in the day so having to wait for him to go to work lol. Then mum had the laptop.

Aimeelou - OMG I can't believe people are being so horrid. At the end of the day Earl is quite obviously a very happy healthy baby who is very loved. Ignore everyone else.

Kte - I can't believe that woman! Want me to go smack her?! She sounds a right cow. I think your right that she has taken on too much and just doesn't want to admit it.

Well we have had a good day. Went for lunch at KFC and then went to the library to get some picture books for James and some books for me. Also ordered in a book on baby signing. Was going to join a class but can't find one near here which is a shame.
 

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