Bumpkins & Babies Chat Thread

[sam76]

Hello All, how are we all, hope all is well, what are your plans for Fathers Day??? well next week is my last week off work, dreading go back, cause ive got to go back fulltime, as they wouldnt reduce my hours, George is going to Nursery on Tues Morn/Thurs Morn, im dreading it sooooooo Much, i hope he will be ok, then he starts full time the week after when i go work, cant believe how quick it has gone really..... Wish i could not work, but thats life, been in my job ten years, may look for something part time else where if its too hard, well i hope all Babys are well and keeping us busy, regarding the finger food stuff rice cakes etc, i havent given anything to George abit scared, but he does eat everything else!!!

 

[Kte]

Morning all,

Sam, I have banged my head against a wall trying to come up with new ideas not to go back lol. I have been in my job 10 years too, I do actually like my job but I just don't know, its one of those, do I make a change now kind of thing or end up doing it forever? I just wish I have a calling so to speak! Hope George enjoys nursery Hope you enjoy your last week off too

I managed to pick up a few fathers day things for Nij, wanted to go all creative like but they did that at nursery! Found a perfect card to so will get her to be all creative in it later

 

[Kaites]

Happy Weekend!

Hope everyone is having a good day! We're having a lazy morning here after another great night sleep I know I seem to have a new theory on Emma's sleep every few days, lol, but I kinda think it might have been calorie intake along with all the developmental stuff- she must be burning loads since she's always in motion and she's slimmed down a lot. As a bit of an experiment, I've spoonfed (I can hear the "tsk, tsk" coming from the ladies in the BLW section from here ) Emma a bit of her dinner roughly mashed at the end of the meal for the past couple days to make sure she's actually eaten and not just played and it might just be a coincidence, but her sleeping improved dramatically Last night she slept from 9pm-4am, then 4-7:30am- a huge improvement! I'm all for BLW, but if she needs more calories atm, then I guess a bit of spoonfeeding at the end of the meal is the route we'll be going since I don't think waking up every few hours in the night is working for either of us!

The medical went well yesterday- I had to get a booster shot so I can sympathize with Emma for all those immunizations she just went through- my arm was aching for the rest of the day! I was dreading leaving her with my parents since she cried for 3hrs straight when they looked after her on Valentine's Day but when I came home, she was happily playing with my mum and barely even looked up to acknowledge my arrival home. My parents stayed for a while after and Emma seemed to prefer playing with my mum, just coming back to me for a quick hug every so often to touch base- it's a relief knowing she can be left with my parents and not cry the whole time, lol

Flora- Harry sounds cute doing the Mowgli- hope you get a piccie! We don't have the Organix stuff here but we've got other similar baby snacks- I keep apple "wobbly wheels" in my bag for Emma They are a great distraction when waiting for the real food to arrive in a restaurant since she usually tries to eat the napkins otherwise

Maffie- Hope the MS passes for you soon

Sam- Hope George likes his nursery. That sucks that your work wasn't flexible. It's rough when you've worked somewhere, built up a bit of tenure and then are left feeling like you have to look for something else.

Kte- Sounds like you had a productive day! I had great plans to get creative with hubby's father's day gift but that didn't happen Oh well, unless it somehow involved his fish tanks, it would probably be lost on him anyway, lol

Well, I better get going- having family over for a BBQ this afternoon and I should be cleaning. We were supposed to go to the zoo today but we've postponed it til tomorrow- enough other stuff going on today! Hope everyone is having a good weekend

 

[Kte]

Hope the BBQ is a good one Kaites

We just got back from a house warming party. OMG there was a little boy there, must of been 3/4 years old, he was a terror! He stole Chloe's doll, gave her an evil stare and said 'my dolly' and hid it behind his head. I didn't know what he was doing at first, it was just bizzar. He smeared Bolognese sauce all over it too. I got it back and then was texting, Chloe was on my knee and he went to head-butt her! He pulled an almost two year old over by grabbing the hood of her cardigan an yanking it. He tipped some pringles upside down which went on the floor and attempted to swipe a bottle on the table to knock it over. His mum was just saying 'why you doing this, why you being like this'. No wonder if she is more into her food than her kids behavior!

 

[Maffie]

Evening all, ms as settled quite well. Still there a bit but not as bad.

 

[Kte]

Morning all,

Gosh we are all quiet! Some days it gets crazy in here lol How are we all?

Maffie: Glad the MS has settled a bit

Just enjoying being sat out in the sun, Nij back from work and we have his parents over this afternoon. Chloe has just gone down for a nap, she is still in super clingy mode at the moment, even if I put her in a bouncer or on the floor with toys she screams. I'm just trying to carry on as normal but it's taken to only me being able to settle her again now. Hope it passes soon.

 

[Kaites]

Morning!

It is quiet here this weekend! We had our BBQ last night and Emma has decided to start to "make strange" with my BIL. Poor guy bought her an Eeyore (sp?) stuffed toy and she just looked and him and burst into tears and then for the rest of the evening, if she noticed him looking at her, she would start to get the quivering chin that would eventually lead to tears We're heading off to the zoo in a little bit- I should be making pancakes for breakfast but I'm having a bit of BnB procrastination first

Maffie- glad to here the MS has calmed down a bit

Kte- Yikes, that kid at the birthday party sounds like a little horror! I hope the clinginess passes soon- it's nice to be wanted but hard when they won't be put down for even a moment Enjoy the father's day celebrations with the in-laws

Hope everyone is having a good day!

 

[florabean1981]

all

We've had a busy weekend entertaining OH's friends; it's been nice, but tiring. Tried Harry in the pirate ship paddling pool for the first time today too & he loved it, although I must admit, I did put a couple of kettle fulls of boiling water in it to warm it up, so it probably felt more like a bath to him, lol, but hey, he enjoyed it all the same, then slept for nearly 2 hours afterwards as he wore himself out!

Sam, that sucks they wouldn't reduce your hours. I really wish employers would consider things more carefully with regards to returning to work & how emotional it can be for us mums But I hope all goes well & that George loves the nursery.

Kte, that kid sounds horrible!!!! Hope the sauce comes out of Chloe's doll!

Kaites, I've done the same things with harry, especially when he just plays with the meal & doesn't eat much, as I know he will wake up hungry as hell later & be a nightmare to settle again, so a little spoon feeding works for us too at times. I know that 'die hard' blw'ers will think it's not right, but hey, we all do what we think is best for our kids at the end of the day!!!

Maffie, glad the MS is calming. I think mine pretty much stopped at about 14 weeks with harry, but would randomly appear for a day or two throughout the rest of my pregnancy, along with horrendous travel sickness How are you finding being pregnant & BFing? I know some people report a lot of pain??? Hope you're not though!

Umm, I've forgotten what else I was gonna say.... Ho hum!

Well, n'nite everyone. Hope all the dad's enjoyed their first proper Father's Days with the new bubbies

 

[Maffie]

Morning all, BFing is fine, the feeding causes tummy to kind of make those contracting feelings that you get after birth. (not sure ive described that right). No actual pain though thankfully.

 

[colsy]

Well, it's been a l-o-o-o-o-ng time coming, but Monty has finally perfected the art of rolling. And rolling. And rolling. And rolling. Ad infinitum. But only from back to tummy - which, according to everything I read, is most unusual, as babies tend to learn tummy on to back first. It's really very cute, but of course it's a completely new skill, and golly does he want to practise it. Which just makes nappy changing the most difficult physical thing I've done so far since having a baby - it's like I have to pin down his top half with one hand, ideally plonk a toy on his chest, and then do the bottom half with the other hand. If they're pooey nappies, OMG!!! And all the time he yells cos he wants to be rolling over, not pinned down on his back So girls, to all of you whose babies are already rolling, any tips for dealing with nappies during this practice stage?

Moving on to sleep ... well last night was the best in weeks He went to sleep at 7pm on his tummy (rolled straight on to his tum as soon as I popped him in cot) and then slept til 3.30am. A very brief BF and then back to sleep (on his side this time) til 6.15am. Then played and chatted in his cot for half an hour. Let's hope this continues.

We saw the osteo on Friday. He said there was some residual tension in his neck from the ventouse delivery and that it might cause some discomfort at night, so he's worked on that to see if it helps sleep. Maybe last night was the results? We go back in two weeks to do a second treatment.

 

[florabean1981]

glad the sleep is better Colsy...

Now, I have to say..... I'm really upset. Like sitting here in tears upset right this very second.

I've been replying to a post my sister put on Facebook & then 2 of her friends were arses to me for what I put... I dont know why I'm letting it affect me so much, but now I feel 100% lousy, angry, upset.....

Am I being out of line? Here's the thread:

Chloe Spooner Is home + in trouble! Oops, sorry mum. Lol
Yesterday at 03:17 via Mobile Web · Comment ·LikeUnlike · View feedback (19)Hide feedback (19).Deborah Cox uh oh, what did you do?
Yesterday at 03:20 · LikeUnlike.Vicky Barry haHAHAHAHAH
Yesterday at 03:32 · LikeUnlike.Chloe Spooner Went out, said i'd be back by midnight + didnt get in til 3am! Oops
Yesterday at 08:15 · LikeUnlike.Fleur Eveline Lees which is why i wont babysit late night for you!
Yesterday at 12:11 · LikeUnlike · .Vicky Barry chloe that is wot family is for baby gal ucant help but have gr8 mates and have a good night life !!!!!!!!!! its good to get out the house and have ur own time from ur kids its hard work being a good mum and u do it all by ur sell baby gal !!! i will see u in the week baby !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yesterday at 12:14 · LikeUnlike.Chloe Spooner You aint babysat for me like that since Josh woz Caleb's age! Which is why i dont ask you to.
Yesterday at 15:26 · LikeUnlike.Chloe Spooner Yeah will probley come down on Tues Vicky as i got to go pay for Josh's bday tomorrow
Yesterday at 15:27 · LikeUnlike.Vicky Barry ok huni !!!!! were home now lol makeing dinner im starvin ! got get kyras skool stuff ready ect then im chillin all night
Yesterday at 16:01 · LikeUnlike.Fleur Eveline Lees Uh, Clo, I babysat both your kids late at night plenty of times while we still lived in the flat & regardless of what time you said you'd be back, you were always at least an hour late, which considering we all do it for free, could be seen as taking advantage??? Good job we love you though, otherwise we'd kick your butt everytime you got back late... See more... Just think, in a couple of years, I will do the same to you, then you can be the one angry coz you sat up all night waiting & worrying... remember that, missus.
Yesterday at 23:42 · LikeUnlike · .Chloe Spooner Ok yeah literally a couple of times. BUT, i had to come to yours, put them to bed before i went, stay at yours + get up with them in the morning. So yeah if you actually ever let me look after Harry then i'd do the same that you do for me + yeah i would do it free coz your family!
5 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Fleur Eveline Lees yep... and that's why I said 'in a couple of years' coz right now, I see it as I chose to have Harry, therefore it should be me who looks after him, not anyone else. Social lives can wait- kids are young for such a short amount of time & I'd rather be there to see that... then escape from them when they are horrible teenagers
4 hours ago · LikeUnlike · .Chloe Spooner Im sorry im a single mum + need a break now + again! I dont go out every week, its once every couple of months. Im with them 24/7 + if a few hours every couple of months aint acceptable then i guess that must mean im a bad mum then?! You really aint got a clue what its like!
3 hours ago · LikeUnlike.Fleur Eveline Lees i do have a clue chloe, i wasn't having a go about the fact you go out; what we all find frustrating is that you do sometimes take advantage of your family in order for you to be able to have your social life, and that for someone who lives on benefits, you appear to have more disposable income for things like alcohol & new clothes than people like... See more me who have had to work bloody hard for everything we have. i know you cant help that it's better for you not to work right now, but at the same time, it feels like a bit of a slap in the face for all us tax payers who fund all the young, single mums out there, if that makes sense.
about an hour ago · LikeUnlike · .Chloe Spooner Yeah you were having a go, you always are!
about an hour ago · LikeUnlike.Fleur Eveline Lees and you wonder why... you wouldn't be getting so defensive over this if you knew I didn't have a point...
about an hour ago · LikeUnlike · .Vicky Barry omg right i cant not belive this soooooooooooooo if u were single and had no choice u wouldnt take money of the govement ?????????????? u both make good points and at the end of the day every 1 can have a brake its not a crime and chloe mabe u shuld get a mate to babysit nxt time so then it dont cause problems !! now kiss and make up ya pooh heads !!!!!!!!!!!
about an hour ago · LikeUnlike.Chloe Spooner Im sorry i forgot that your miss bloody perfect + know everything bout bringing up kids dont you sis! NOT! Im am defensive coz your always moaning at me + ive had enough!
50 minutes ago · LikeUnlike.James Barry who gives a fuck we had a good night and to be honest its not our fault you are on your jack jones and you a big time loner and so if you got kids your not allowed to have a social life ??
22 minutes ago · LikeUnlike.Fleur Eveline Lees it's not the break or going out that bothers me; it's the fact she's always late!!! Which, in my opinion is taking advantage purely because we're family.If she was paying for a real babysitter, that would've been 3 hours extra she would've had to have paid, and if she was paying for it, I doubt she would be so late back as she wouldn't be able to ... See moreafford it.

I never said any of you shouldn't have a social life either. Learn to read Mr Barry! I'm glad Chloe has good friends &n is able to go out & enjoy herself & I agree, everyone needs a break, but it annoys me that all of those people living off government handouts are using that money which is designed to help you look after your children, provide for your children & pay your bills etc. I think it's wrong using that money on cigarettes, alcohol, taxi fares etc...

I'm not a loner- I would just rather spend my hard earned money on more important things like our house, bills, providing for my son & saving for his future. If that means I give up my social life, buying new clothes, not drinking etc, then so be it; that's the decision I've made for myself because that's what I thin is best. Obviously everyone's priorities are different.

Not once did I say Chloe was a bad mum (she's actually very good & especially since her children's dad do very little at all). I also said it wasn't her fault she has to live on benefits- that's the gonvernment's fault for not making it feasable to people to go back to work when childcare is so expensive.

I find your comments about me sitting on my 'jack jones' offensive Baz, as you've only met me a couple of times; we dont know eachother. I have a job, I've never once claimed any benefits, even when I didn't work, I have a good education, I pay my taxes & national insurance, I provide for my son the best I can, as does anyone else. I work my butt off while on maternity leave, doing up the house we've bought, and we have to save up every penny to be able to afford life's luxuries like holidays, new clothes, new TVs, stuff for our son, driving lessons, makeup, going out with our friends... all the things you all seem to do all the time (except the holiday bit), so I guess I'm a bit jealous that all these people (including some of my own friends) living on benefits & goverment handouts can afford to do things that I can't... Something just isn't right about that!!!

I'm now sitting here preparing for the onslaught that I will get for writing that last comment... Am I out of line for saying for once what I'm thinking???

 

[colsy]

No you ain't out of line. It takes a lot of guts to write something like that on FB! BUT you prob know as well as I do that you ARE going to get some flak from them all now. FWIW I completely agree with you and I would prob have written the exact same myself, and then it would be me asking on here whether I'd overstepped the mark I'm always offending people - but I don't MEAN to. I just think it's better to be honest than pretend otherwise when you have an opinion to state (Believe it or not, I'm currently managing to upset a load of people on the natural parents thread. I thought my Q was innocent enough but I think it went the wrong way )

Anyway, Florabean, hold on in there. Can you maybe ring your sis and talk about it a bit rather than thrashing it out on FB? (Maybe easier said than done though?)

 

[florabean1981]

ha, now my sister has removed the whole lot coz she knows damn well that a) she is the one in the wrong & b) her friends' repsonses to what I put will cause major issues, that I would report them to FB for, lol.
Sorry if me ranting about people on benefits offends any of you on here; it's not the benefits I have an issue with; it's the people who spend that money on their social lives & take advantage of their families so they can live their lives as if they dont have children which makes me angry, because I wish I could go out with my friends, buy the latest clothes, but the CDs & DVDs I like, eat out every weekend, spend £30 on alcohol on a friday night, clothe my child in Next & stuff, and smoke to my heart's content. (not that I even smoke, but anyway.)

Rant over... Still really upset... I feel really emotional today & I'm not sure why. I'm so tired, drained, bored.... everything is getting to me today.

I hope everyone else is having a better day.

Chaos, happy belated birthday

edit: Colsy, i tried, but she's not answering her phone at the moment... Her friend's have changed their status's to 'get a fucking life you sad fucking loser, you aint perfect, just fuck off & die.' (NICE!) and 'If you aint got nothing nice to say, then fuck off & dont say it at all. if you dont like what you read & what we do, fuck off, you dont have to read it.' I have now removed them both from my friend list (not even sure why they were on my friend list in the first place to be honest!) so there shouldn't be any further repercussions, but I did notice my lovely little sister had clicked the 'like' button on both of them, which is more annoying...

(Just some info on my sis; i love her like crazy, but she hasn't worked since Josh was a baby, my bro looked after the kids for a year, unpaid! she owes my mum over £7000 that she was bailed out of debt with, and she currently has 2 provident loans & a crisis loan from the coucil that she's paying off too. She relies soley on income support, housing benefit, CTC & CB as her means on income, and lives in a really6 nice, brand new housing association flat that most people would give their right arm for... she uses family to baby sit & never offers any money & relies on my husband to pick her & take her places & it's us who take her eldest every other weekend so she can have a break & stuff, for which she never says thankyou for... she's always late, never appologetic & seems to just expect that people will come to her need whenever, where ever.) And apparently I'm the lazy bitch who sits on my arse at home... I'd rather have no life than live a wrong life.

 

[Kte]

Colsy: I daren't even go in the natural parenting section, defo not BLW either there would be burning forkpicks (sp) and the like if I did at my door! It's crazy lol

Flora: I totally agree with you. When I had Chloe my cousin and her cousin both just had kids too, both don't work, don't really intend to. Go out, get baby sitters etc. I love my cousin to bits but it pisses me off she gets all these hand outs then moans when someone doesn't offer her a cig when she offeres them to other people etc etc.

Ignore the other comments and just sort it with you Sis as Colsy said. I can see where you were coming from and she shouldn't of really taken too much offence at it. I though you were more having a cheeky dig at her at first so its kinda got out of hand when it shouldn't. I say it loads - facebook has a lot to answer to!!

 

[jo_79]

Ahhh fleur, you are in the right. Friends on either side should never get involved in sibling disputes cos it just makes things worse. As for their FB status comments thats plain fucking nasty and they need a good slap! It just goes to show how childish they obviously are.

lol i just re read it again are you sure that vicky barry isnt really vicky pollard off little britain?? lol the quote is just like her

about an hour ago · LikeUnlike · .Vicky Barry omg right i cant not belive this

 

[Kaites]

Happy Monday!

Hope everyone had a good weekend We made it to the zoo yesterday andit was a gorgeous sunny day. The zoo is pretty small but Emma seemed to enjoy it. Her favourite part was the horse in the petting section of the zoo- she was all giggles with the horse. We thought she'd like the big cats, especially the jaguar since she's obsessed with our cat but she didn't seem to care too much about them Today was baby signing class- she wiggled/crawled over to another baby and gave her a hug and a kiss. I was worried Emma was going to bite her since she's been known to teeth on my hands/shoulders but she just lightly touched the other baby's forehead- thank gawd- I don't want my kid to be the biter on the playground, lol

Flora- I think you had good reason to be upset and made valid points regarding how some people use benefits I'd be annoyed if she was always coming home late too. Harry sounds like quite the waterbaby My mum used to fill our paddling pool with a couple kettles of hot water too

Colsy- that thread has turned stupid silly I think you had a good point tbh- natural parenting has gradually become an expensive fluff appreciation society. I'm guilty of posting pics of new fluff too but I agree that the high volume of nappy posts can drown out any non-nappy related stuff. Your thread isn't the only one that has cropped up about all the newbie cloth posts- people have been moaning about all the "tell me everything there is to know about cloth" in recent weeks. Looks like it just touched a nerve when that obviously wasn't the intention No advice on rolling babies atchange time-- our problem is her grabbing her feet and not wanting to let go, making it hard to do up a nappy. Glad to hear Monty is sleeping better

Well, I better run- Emma is awake now.

 

[Maffie]

Chaos happy belated birthday

Fleur id be upset and angry at that too

Will be back in a bit, Noah is being a little cheeky monkey

 

[Chaos]

Thanks for the Birthday wishes!

Fleur ~ To me it sounds like she's more mad at her self than you and being defensive about it because you called her on it. I do not think you are in the wrong what so ever. No one said she should not go out, but if she asks you to babysit and you're doing it for free and she states she will be back at a certain time, then she should have her arse in the door 5 minutes early.

 

[Maffie]

Im back, Noah has discovered a cry if he sees mummy but he sits and laughs and plays when I watch round the corner

Colsy I thought your thread about natural parenting was quite a good and valid idea not read much of it. I do have lots of pretty fluff but the section is a bit drowned in fluff.

Kte reading your comment about that section makes me a little sad cos you are right and it shouldnt be that way. I do follow lots of NP but I think we are all mums and even if reading something which is totally different to what we do shows us options on what we can do then its good. Did that make sense? I love reading opposite view points to things I do because it sometimes gives em those oooooh thats a good idea moments on things I could give a go.
I sometimes wander into threads on TW and FF and im a little wary on posting because im interested in seeing all view points. We are all good mummies looking after lovely babies at the end of the day

Im glad we have this thread I feel so comfortable with you girls and seeing all our different and similar views is great

Gosh I think my hormones are out today

 

[florabean1981]

Thanks everyone, and thankyou to Chaos for sticking up for me on facebook. I've deleted them all as friends, but they are carrying everything on on my sister's page, where they started on me big time. Everyone keeps saying I'm a bitch to my sister & that I'm up my own arse, there was even some freaking 16 year old having a go at me saying I;m talking a load of crap!!! I am the only one on her page that has questioned her on the benefits thing, yet they are all attacking me. even my dad told Baz (James Barry guy) to back off in the end, but they're all still going at it, even though I've stopped commenting. On my profile, obviously my friends have rallied around me, but not one of them has sworn at, threatened or attcked my sister- they've just said she should grow up, get a job & not make excuses- a normal grown up approach, rather than calling me an expleative loser.
OH has just got home & is appauled- he's staying out of it on Facebook, but he said if Baz tries anything, he will have him...
It all started out (like Kte said) as just a bit of a dig at my sister, but then all her benefit hunting friendship group have come out of the woodwork on the pretence they are defending my sisters honour or something, when in actual fact, they are trying to defend their lifestyle choices. I haven't sworn, I haven't been vicious (I did say he had no brain, but that was it & said people who benefit hunt & choose to live like that are like scum to people who work their guts out to make ends meet) but apparently I'm not arsehole.
I'm all cried out now & Harry is sleeping again. I've also been univited to my nephew's 6th birthday party in 2 weeks, as they will all be there, and she's choosing them over me as their kids are coming to the party, whereas Harry cant bowl anyway, so it doesnt matter, lol... thanks there sis, considering I paid half for the damn party anyway. and i've bought him a wkd light up scooter too...... ho hum...
i guess honesty isnt the best policy.