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[Sunnyleah]

Good luck sunny skies.

Afm I think the got me

Bright red spotting last night and cramps this morning. (Haven't gotten up yet). Pretty frustrated as I started b complex vitamins last cycle as they are supposed to work miracles for a short lp but mine is getting shorter!!!! O is delayed but cycles same length. Very frustrating.... EVERYTHING I read says take b vitamins. DH and I have been eating clean for almost 2 weeks now (down 5 lbs) and still having issues. I know that needs time but ugh. We decided to see what this new cycle brings and if more of the same then we will request the fertility clinic in July instead of waiting until September.

 

[allforthegirl]

I am sorry love, I can completely understand your frustrations!! I sure hope things turn around for you soon!!

 

[Kasey84]

Kasey, where are you at in your cycle. Any updates?

I'm on cd 13 now. I've been charting bbt, cm, and using opks. No positive opk yet, but expecting one soon. In the mean time we are BDing every other day.

Did you test this am? Any updates?

 

[Starry Night]

Sunnyleah - Sorry that the witch caught you. I do remember from my days on the regular TTC forums that some girls would get spotting issues or shortened LPs from taking B6. It's because of that reason I'm afraid to add vitamins and supplements without talking to a doctor first.

 

[Kasey84]

Sorry Sunnyleah! It sure is frustrating. I have just hated the dissappoinent month after month. I really hope things work out this cycle for you

 

[Sunny skies]

Kasey, where are you at in your cycle. Any updates?

I'm on cd 13 now. I've been charting bbt, cm, and using opks. No positive opk yet, but expecting one soon. In the mean time we are BDing every other day.

Did you test this am? Any updates?

Good luck kasey.

I tested yesterday and BFN. AF hasn't shown yet but this morning I had some very light spotting when I wiped. Looks like AF is on its way. Getting really discouraged.

Sunnyleah sorry the witch got you, looks like I'll be joining you for another cycle.

 

[Sunnyleah]

Sorry the got you too Sunnyskies....

As for the B vitamins, upon further reading and chatting with a female friend who is a doctor and pregnant, I was taking the bare minimum of the b6 vitamin which is the one to help regulate hormones (both fertility related and other)... So for this cycle I am taking a higher b6 supplement and if no improvement then off to the fertility clinic (well, the doctor for a referral) The b vitamin can delay O because it regulates the hormones that are out of balance and can cause your body needing more time to reach high enough levels of other hormones, however the B vitamins are water soluable meaning anything your body doesn't use it just gets rid of.... Daily requirements are 200 mg and I was only getting 60mg from my prenatal and Bcomplex. Most people get more from grains/cereals but I have food allergies that prevent me from eating most grains and cereals... So I'm very happy having chatted with my doctor friend and have a bit more hope for this cycle . And I did conceive first cycle on the b complex vitamin, just resulted in a chemical

Fingers crossed for all of us this cycle!

 

[Starry Night]

Sorry, sunnyskies. I hope this next cycle is your lucky one!

I'm only taking the B6 in my prenatal but I am taking extra B12. It hasn't helped though as I've had 2 miscarriages while on it. I'm now adding Vitamin E as that is supposed to help with egg quality and to support early pregnancy. I'm taking the lowest dose at 400IU because too much can cause premature rupture of the membranes. So it's one of those vitamins where there is too much of a good thing. I'm also adding extra folic acid but am thinking of alternating the extra every other day. The smallest capsule I could find was 1000mcg(1mg) and there is already 1000mcg in my prenatal. Your body is supposed to pass the extra but I don't want to risk taking too much.

 

[Sunnyleah]

Sorry, sunnyskies. I hope this next cycle is your lucky one!

I'm only taking the B6 in my prenatal but I am taking extra B12. It hasn't helped though as I've had 2 miscarriages while on it. I'm now adding Vitamin E as that is supposed to help with egg quality and to support early pregnancy. I'm taking the lowest dose at 400IU because too much can cause premature rupture of the membranes. So it's one of those vitamins where there is too much of a good thing. I'm also adding extra folic acid but am thinking of alternating the extra every other day. The smallest capsule I could find was 1000mcg(1mg) and there is already 1000mcg in my prenatal. Your body is supposed to pass the extra but I don't want to risk taking too much.

Don't worry about folic acid overdose.... I'm on a prenatal ( because of the loss) with 5 mg.... Taken every day.... Prescribed by the OB and he said it can't hurt ya any ....



B6 is to support hormone balance to ensure that ovulation is strong to help the luteal phase.... Perhaps it can help you with egg quality?

 

[Starry Night]

I'll have to look into it. I'm also looking into CoQ10 but that one is COSTLY especially if you want to take the amount recommended for recurrent miscarriages. You're supposed to take 600mg a day and the largest pill I found was 300mg. One jar of 30 capsules is $30 so to take two a day you're looking at $60 a month for one pill alone! So I may hold off on that one unless a doctor says so.

How much B6 do you take? I don't want to take too much vitamin B.

 

[Sunnyleah]

B6 I have 25mg in my b complex vitamin (which I take two per day), plus 10 in my prenatal, plus I just started another just b6 with 150 mg which I take once per day.... So 210 per day.... The recomended is 200, but the b vitamins are water soluable so anything your body doesn't use is passed through..... B complex is good because the b vitamins absorb better when taken together.... Also my B vitamins were low a couple of years ago.. I think because of my allergies and not eating many grains to get a natural dose....

So I don't really get much in addition to my supplements.... That's all I take, the three vitamins, but two are two per day.....

 

[Kasey84]

Sunny skies- I'm sorry af got you. I can totally relate to feeling discouraged. Sometimes it feels like ill never see a bfp again. It's so frustrating

Sunnyleah- I'm so glad you had a food talk with you doctor friend and that your are feeling hopeful. Wishing you lots of luck this cycle!

 

[Sunnyleah]

Kasey I see your 'sad'. Hoping you feel better soon....

 

[Kasey84]

Thanks Sunnyleah

I'm feeling hopeful for this cycle, but I'm definitely struggling lately. Next week would have been my due date and its do hard not think that I could have a newborn in my arms right now if things has worked out differently!

I hope the future has wonderful things in store for us all!

 

[Sunnyleah]

I know exactly how you feel.... My edd was May first and I'm still thinking, "oh I SHOULD have a 6 week old by now".... Doesn't help that an acquaintance on Facebook had the same edd so now instead of pregnancy updates I'm seeing baby updates....

Also had a dream last night that DH's sister told us they are expecting (they are trying for their second)... I remember although being happy for them I was sad that I wasn't also.... When we started trying last may both of my SIL had just given birth.... It was actually the day that the one who is now trying for a second, gave birth to her first that DH and I decided to start.... S the very next cycle we started trying.... So the whole time we've been trying I figured we would at least be very pregnant by the time either SIL started trying again.... But here we are over a year later and nothing (well two losses)... It's so surreal that we are here...it feels like a dream, like why us? Why is this so difficult for us?

Trying very hard to be positive, and everyone here has been such a help towards that...

I defiantly understand how you're feeling.....

Fingers crossed for both of us that this is our cycle, our time.....

 

[Starry Night]

I've now done some more research and while Vitamin E deficiency is linked to miscarriage, taking a supplement during pregnancy is dangerous as the pill forms contain much, much higher doses than the recommended daily amount. I don't know why they do that. But too much Vitamin E can cause bleeding or even heart defects in the baby. Good think I've only taken one so far. Scary.

So I'm stopping the Vitamin E but will be adding Omega 3.

We've been TTC#2 over a year with two losses and now SiL is due when my last angel should have been due. It's so unfair that some people get pregnant so easily and stay pregnant without any problems. Even my son's pregnancy was touch and go. I bled heavily the first 14 weeks and had a host of other problems. I was never allowed to feel like I could keep him. I also feel like it's hard to believe that I'm in this situation and staying positive is really difficult. I've always struggled with depression and anxiety and TTC has really made these things much worse.

 

[Sunnyleah]

Hang in there starry night..... Have you ever had testing regarding the losses?

That's great that you are doing some good research into the supplements and finding what's safe and works for you... Good luck!

 

[Starry Night]

We are looking into testing. There is only one fertility clinic in Manitoba so the wait times are very long. My GP said it could be a year if he were to refer me directly. So in just under two months I'm seeing an OB/GYN to get the referral. My GP tells me that this route is quicker as the OB is a specialist and the clinic would take that referral more seriously.

 

[Sunnyleah]

Oh yes, I remember you mentioning that earlier.... Perhaps the OB can do some testing while you wait? Maybe something can be resolved before you even get to the clinic.....

 

[Starry Night]

I'm thinking the OB should be able to do some testing. On the clinic's website they say it's better to come in with the preliminary tests already completed.