Ginge I totally understand! tbh I won't be using anything anymore, dh has been asking me for months to throw the thermometer away and the o tests, it really takes over and as my libido increases along with my cm I know when I'm coming up for o and we bd anyway. I saw my new doctor today who was absolutely lovely, he basically said dh is spot on, that all this temp taking, tracking cm, charts, tests just takes over and causes stress which can interfere with fertility, he said I'm fertile because my cycles and o are regular and I got pregnant twice this year and have had 4 live births one which was only just over a year ago, he advised getting rid of the thermometer, tests etc just like dh has said and just enjoy my husband, relax and there is still plenty of time for another baby, as I've had both sexes too that equally showed no problems, he seriously doubts if anything has changed from when I had the tests with Brooklyn as the time period is too short and I've had two pregnancies this year, he said whether they result in losses or not a pregnancy means you are fertile still, it does take a bit longer at my age but told me not to give up, relax and keep trying, I felt so relieved as I left, this whole TTC has completely taken over and I should of followed dh advice months ago! So when this cycle is over its all going in the bin!! Xxxx