{CLOSED GROUP} Journey to BFP and Beyond!

[jlw617]

Awww I love labradoodles! My mom just got one about a year ago-he is one of the funniest/sweetest dogs I've ever seen!

 

[tcinks]

All right, got a doctor's appointment set up for next Thursday. I would have like to be have been seen sooner, but I'm just glad she's finally seeing me! Makes me feel a little better. And I'm very tempted to run out and get some progesterone cream. I think they sell it at my local health food store.

 

[NDH]

Wow busy thread overnight!

Jamie I waited 24 hours after last bleed to make sure it was done before dtd. I did then have a couple days of spotting but kept dtd. Just spotting I'm happy to be intimate but I'm too concerned about infection to do anything while I'm bleeding.

Terrissa I can't believe your Dr won't see you for a whole week despite stop bleeding! I would definitely try progesteterone at this stage. Normally its something i would only use in the tww anf maybe a week or two longer if I had a lpd (luteal phase of 9 days or less) since that would mean my body wasn't producing enough ptogesterone to even get pregnant. But after that I'm torn because I feel like a healthy pregnancy would produce enough progesterone on its own and by using progesterone it could just be delaying the inevitable. Idk.

Daughter just found my opks and brought them to me They were inside the suitcase I keep my business stock in which I have out to prepare for my market tomorrow. Will start using them but its possible I may have already surged.

Kylee I'm sorry I can't remember what I was going to say about your post

 

[kdmalk]

Natalie, glad dd found your opks! lol. Where do you live in Australia? I keep meaning to ask. My cousins are originally from Taree. They have lived in the states for like.... 12 years now though. But my youngest cousin moved back last year and is currently going to college at Macquarie in Sydney.

Terrissa, I hope you stop bleeding before next Thursday! But you should still keep the appointment just to be reassured that everything is alright. I will say a quick prayer for you.

AFM... still utterly confused about what on earth my body is doing right now. Felt kind of AFish this morning, but still having some ewcm the last couple days."They" say you often don't ovulate before AF, but I am now a little confused because I feel like I might have Oed TWICE??????!!! I don't actually think that is possible a week apart(?), so clearly it was either then or now... but I am having the exact same symptoms so I am just confused. I started temping 2 days ago, so nothing to go on there. But it is much lower today than yesterday's. Maybe I will use an opk just to see what it looks like. Can anyone offer some insight on what temps should look like in a normal cycle? Just ready for AF so I can stop playing the guessing game with my body! I know we ALL know what that feels like! ugh!

 

[tcinks]

Thanks Kylee It's good to see you posting, I'd begun to wonder where you were! How are you besides your body sending you crazy signs?

I finally decided to go to the prenatal/newborn baby loss group at my hospital. They have it twice a month and we keep talking about going, but haven't yet. I called the lady in charge and tonight they are having a candle light ceremony in honor of the babies lost and decorating a tree for them. It's in about an hour, I'll update on how it goes.

 

[jlw617]

Kylee-I think our hormones are so crazy after mc that I almost wouldn't rule anything out, although I think you're right though and you probably only Oed once, but our hormones can certainly do crazy things, I wish I could tell you about temps but I don't do that so I'm not able to advise in that area maybe someone else can

Terissa-I think it's great you're going to go to that group at your hospital there is just something about losing your first baby that is really difficult and it doesn't mean that it gets any easier whether it's your first pregnancy or your fourth but it certainly does have a different feeling to it when you lose that first one I know because my first pregnancy and it in miscarriage on Valentine's Day I really hope that group helps you with the grieving process and I think it's great that they are doing a tree in honor of the babies that have passed

 

[NDH]

Kylee I'm actually only an hour from taree! And in my due date group there was a woman who lived in the UK but her parents lived 20 minutes from me. So crazy.

I have no idea what your body is doing. I don't think its out of the realm of possibility that you could have ovulated twice, but its also possible you might have just geared up to ovulate the first time and not. You were hoping af would be arriving today weren't you so you could start ttc? Fingers crossed she'll show up (unless there's any chance you could have comceived if you did just ovulate..)

Terrissa that sounds really nice. Let us know hoe it went. I'm trying to decide if I want to go to a,church service called blessing of angels this Sunday for all babies lost this whole year. It would mean having to leave my church a little early cause it starts at 11:30 and that's when the service at mine is usually ending, plus fellowship time goes til 12:15 usually

 

[kdmalk]

Jamie, Terrissa, and Natalie... thanks so much for your thoughts. My opk was nearly invisible. I'm starting to think that maybe I Oed last week like I thought and am just having a bit of extra cm right now with the wonky cycle? But, Natalie, I am entertaining the thought that you might be right about my body trying to ovulate and not quite being ready and now trying to again (opk could be negative if I had my surge in the past few days since I haven't tested for a week)... That would put AF off for yet ANOTHER week. Currently still banking on AF arriving on the 10th. My September baby is now seeming more and more like a crazy thought. It will happen when the time is right, I guess. AF will definitely arrive one way or another because my doctor told us to use condoms until after AF, and rule-following Kylee is doing just that. lol.

 

[jlw617]

Natalie-I think it's definitely worth looking into, do you know if the church has similar beliefs to yours? That would be my only concern...it sounds like they obviously value life though which is good. I know that I believe my 2 babies I lost are in heaven and that is comforting for me but was also comforting to my oldest daughter when we told her the baby had passed. Oh and thanks for letting me know when you started dtd, I talked with my other friend from church and she said she pretty much started the same day her bleeding had stopped. I feel alot better about the whole thing now and think we will probably start dtd tomorrow-I barely had to wear a liner today.

Terissa-How did things go? I hope you had a nice time and that you were able to get some comfort out of going.

 

[jlw617]

Kylee, Yes I agree that maybe your body could be getting ready to ovulate again...I think its important that we each do what we feel is right, If you would rather go by your doctors advise, than that is you and your dh decision, I know that before this mmc, I wouldnt have even entertained the idea of not waiting until my first cycle to start trying especially because that is how I had my first daughter so it worked for me, I just feel like Im in a different mindset now though and I feel that if my body is ready and its Gods will, than I will get pregnant now, and if not that's ok too. I hope AF comes soon for you, as far as the cm is concerned, I know your hormones are wacky right now, but I tend to get a lot right before af so maybe af is coming sooner than you think.

 

[jlw617]

oh and so glad you're opk is nearly invisible now!

 

[kdmalk]

You might be right about me just having some extra cm shortly before AF. I just don't remember having quite as much between O and AF before. But maybe I did. I haven't had a normal period since the end of August, so I could have forgotten by now! lol. I was in the process of typing "I'll keep you guys updated".... but obviously we all know I am going to do that. I'll deny it, but I am definitely about to go to bed at 9:30 like an old lady. Talk to you ladies tomorrow!!!!

 

[tcinks]

The ceremony was wonderful, I'm so glad we went. I'll post a couple pictures later. There were lots of other families who have lost babies, most of them have had other children. There was prayer and singing, and a reading of all of the names of the babies. And ornaments to hang on a Christmas tree there. I cried a lot , which I hadn't for weeks. It was good to just let it out again. It was just really nice that while I've been feeling like everyone has forgotten and moved on, there's a place I can go where my sweet Ronen will be remembered. That was a special Christmas ceremony, so there were probably 50+ people there. But the coordinator said usually it's more like 5-10 people, which is nice because it'll be easier to get to know one another. I'm planning on going back for the one in two weeks.

Also, bleeding seems to have slowed down even more! Maybe by tomorrow it could be gone!

I am so thankful for each and every one of you girls, I'm so glad we've got this little group. It would have been nice to have been brought together by something better, but I'm glad that if we have to go through this, we can support and encourage each other through it. I can't wait for us to have our rainbow babies.

 

[jlw617]

Aww I'm so glad it went so well for you and that you got a good cry in, sometimes we just really need a good cry. Im so glad you invited me to this board, I think it's a huge help to everyone!

 

[KTJ006]

Kylee - don't stress girl! Your cycles are likely just gearing up and trying to figure out what to do again. They will act wonky for a while. For me, I could never compare them to how they were in the past because they were just different. And you are so right about everything happening when it's supposed to. It's hard to not be in control - I'm a control freak!

Terrissa - glad you went! How nice that something like that is even offered! Hope your bleeding disappears! But yes, still go next week even if it clears up!

 

[coucou11]

Hi all! Sorry I've been absent, work got crazy and I just was feeling down again, sigh. Ugh this process is just the worst! I'll be ok for a while and then something will just trigger it and I'll go through a couple days of just wanting to lay in bed all day.

Kylee I would agree your cycle this round could be way off. I occasionally get ewcm after ovulation as well, so it could be that. In terms of temping, a "normal" cycle would have lower temps before O, then after O your progesterone surges (normally) and the temps go up, and, if you are not pregnant, then about 10-14 days later they start to fall and you get AF. Obviously many people have way different experiences though, and lots can throw it off (timing, alcohol, medication, amount of sleep, etc). If you want to start charting, fertility friend is the place to do it.

Someone asked me (way back, haha) if I was from France. I'm not! But I lived there for about 5 years, it's where I met my husband. So that is how I picked my username For those who don't speak the language, in french, people say "cou cou" as a cutesy way to say hello. I miss France! I would love to take my daughter back to live there someday.

Terrissa I'm so glad the ceremony went well, that really sounds special. And Natalie could be good for you to go as well, it's always nice to have a moment to reflect and remember. I definitely don't get enough of that!

Kate and Jamie - hope you guys are feeling well! Jamie your daughters are so lovely!! That is interesting stuff about the progesterone. My LP before conceiving my daughter was 9 days, and then again when I had my IUD out this summer, first cycle was 9 days. I was quite concerned about it and started taking Vitex, and then I conceived, but I get really nervous after that about continuing the Vitex, and when to stop, and then I did stop and then of course I miscarried so now I'm worried about some connection between the two. So I probably will just let things alone now, but my doc said that if my LP stays short like that we may try progesterone. I definitely like the idea of the natural cream over the suppositories.

I'm at the last pill of my Methergine. It seriously did not seem to have any effect until this morning when I finally stopped bleeding. Of course it's only been like 12 hours so who knows. I'm not calling it done until I haven't bled for at least 3 days. Terrissa I'm actually surprised your doctor didn't suggest something like it for you, with the extended bleeding, but I think it really depends on how interventionist your doc is. Anyway I guess I should not be too discouraged as I am only 2 weeks post D&C tomorrow.

Ready for the weekend! Must get Christmas shopping done, argh.

 

[tcinks]

Oh Leigh I'm so glad the bleeding has stopped for you! Hoping it stays away! And I had thought about taking vitex too, but I also read a lot about what you said, a lot of women miscarry when they stop taking it. What is methergine? I never heard of it.

 

[KTJ006]

Hi all! Sorry I've been absent, work got crazy and I just was feeling down again, sigh. Ugh this process is just the worst! I'll be ok for a while and then something will just trigger it and I'll go through a couple days of just wanting to lay in bed all day.

Kylee I would agree your cycle this round could be way off. I occasionally get ewcm after ovulation as well, so it could be that. In terms of temping, a "normal" cycle would have lower temps before O, then after O your progesterone surges (normally) and the temps go up, and, if you are not pregnant, then about 10-14 days later they start to fall and you get AF. Obviously many people have way different experiences though, and lots can throw it off (timing, alcohol, medication, amount of sleep, etc). If you want to start charting, fertility friend is the place to do it.

Someone asked me (way back, haha) if I was from France. I'm not! But I lived there for about 5 years, it's where I met my husband. So that is how I picked my username For those who don't speak the language, in french, people say "cou cou" as a cutesy way to say hello. I miss France! I would love to take my daughter back to live there someday.

Terrissa I'm so glad the ceremony went well, that really sounds special. And Natalie could be good for you to go as well, it's always nice to have a moment to reflect and remember. I definitely don't get enough of that!

Kate and Jamie - hope you guys are feeling well! Jamie your daughters are so lovely!! That is interesting stuff about the progesterone. My LP before conceiving my daughter was 9 days, and then again when I had my IUD out this summer, first cycle was 9 days. I was quite concerned about it and started taking Vitex, and then I conceived, but I get really nervous after that about continuing the Vitex, and when to stop, and then I did stop and then of course I miscarried so now I'm worried about some connection between the two. So I probably will just let things alone now, but my doc said that if my LP stays short like that we may try progesterone. I definitely like the idea of the natural cream over the suppositories.

I'm at the last pill of my Methergine. It seriously did not seem to have any effect until this morning when I finally stopped bleeding. Of course it's only been like 12 hours so who knows. I'm not calling it done until I haven't bled for at least 3 days. Terrissa I'm actually surprised your doctor didn't suggest something like it for you, with the extended bleeding, but I think it really depends on how interventionist your doc is. Anyway I guess I should not be too discouraged as I am only 2 weeks post D&C tomorrow.

Ready for the weekend! Must get Christmas shopping done, argh.

I'm sooooo with you on the triggers!

-Clean our liter boxes. Think 'if I was still pregnant I wouldn't be doing this right now."

-See a mommy bird with three babies on a kids tv show. Think "I would of had three babies."

-Don't even get up during the night to pee anymore. Think "if I were still pregnant I would have been up at least twice to pee!"

I could go on! Triggers everywhere! It does get a little better as time goes on...

Separately: I took my 4 year old to see Frozen on Ice last night (Frozen is a hugely popular Disney movie here) and it was the cutest thing ever. So many kids wore costumes and everyone sang along to the songs. The skating was awesome. It was so fun!i thoroughly enjoyed it even being an adult!

 

[Fleur828815]

kdmalk, my last period (before my pregnancy) was in August and I also seem to have forgotten whether I had CM or not, everything is new suddenly. A miscarriage can mess up the body for a while but hopefully you'll be back to normal very soon and able to TTC.

tcinks, the ceremony sounds lovely, what a wonderful idea for all grieving parents. It's good to be able to cry and let out the feelings again when everyone else is expecting you to be over it already.
Are you still bleeding?

coucou, I'm the one who asked about France! I lived there for over 10 years. Hope the bleeding has stopped for good.

KTJ, I've also got triggers but I'm expecting them to get worse if I'm not pregnant in a few months... especially before my due date.
Frozen on Ice sounds great, I would have enjoyed that too!

I used an OPK strip for the first time today (CD 13) and it was negative. I'm just not feeling it this month somehow, now that we can start TTC again I'm pretty pessimistic about our chances.

 

[jlw617]

Hope everyone has a great day today! We are getting our tree today when dh gets off work, my daughters birthday is next week and I have to get my Christmas cards and boxes out! Does anyone else feel completely overwhelmed!!! I don't think it'd be so bad if this mmc wasn't so emotional and drawn out-I guess the good thing is I'll be keeping busy and keeping my mind off things!

Coucou-what a sweet story and I had no idea it was a cute way of saying hello!