{CLOSED GROUP} Journey to BFP and Beyond!

[KTJ006]

Up close - it worked!

 

[KTJ006]

Reading nook with Pom Poms

 

[Fleur828815]

I am extremely sorry to hear that Natalie, it's SO unfair that you have to go through this again Are you going to see a specialist to try and find out what's happening?

Katie, good job on the butterfly wall, it's lovely! What was your daughter's reaction? Hope my son will be as mellow as yours

 

[NDH]

Wow Katie so gorgeous!

Nope I can't afford to see a specialist at this juncture. Its about $200/visit plus whatever tests etc he'll run.
I'm trying to find out where I can get tested for a MTHFR gene mutation (my Dr gave me a blank look about that one) and I want to pursue thyroid antibody testing if I can find a Dr who will run them with normal TSH. I'm still pretty sure that's an issue for me, even if its not the cause of my miscarriages and I'd like to find out *before* my thyroid crashes.

 

[Fleur828815]

Not sure how it works in Australia but will your health insurance cover those tests? How are you coping?

 

[NDH]

No those are out of pocket costs unfortunately. The public health care only covers certain things, and a certain amount towards specialists, and then you have to pay the difference (some Drs only charge what medicare covers so there is no difference, but obviously specialists can charge more based on their skills/demand.). Private health care will cover more of what medicare doesn't cover but we don't have private health cover. There probably is more testing I can have done for recurrent miscarriages that will be covered by medicare, but it seems to be beyond a GPs scope of knowing what to even request so Im at least going to have to pay for the appointments with a specialist for further testing. And then there's also a lot of testing that won't be covered too. I did just find out that both main lab franchises in my state *do* test for mthfr, but its not a covered test unless I have a family history (no one in my family has been tested so no idea), but it can be a challenge finding a Dr who knows what to ask for, or is willing to work with someone being proactive with their care and wanting tests beyond what is routine/in the drs scope of understanding :/

 

[tcinks]

Oh Natalie I'm so sorry And it seems like such an ordeal to find a doctor. I hope you get some answers.

 

[coucou11]

Oh Natalie, I'm so sorry. This is just awful, I hope you are able to find some answers. Maybe it's worth saving u pa bit and paying for one visit to the specialist to try and avoid going through another miscarriage. Maybe your family could help out with the cost? Wishing you peace.

Kate that wall is gorgeous! What a feat! I'm sure your daughter just loves it. How did you stick the butterflies to the wall? They really look professionally done Also regarding the scan, I would express your concerns when you arrive and see what they say. Maybe they can do one just quickly, as Natalie said.

I just heard back from my doctor. She asked where I had gotten the draw and said it was a reputable company (LabCorp). She also said the numbers are clearly not good and that I can either come in for a confirmation draw from them, or just stop the progesterone and let things go. I'm leaning towards just stopping the progesterone at this point. I don't think another draw is going to tell me anything different and I don't really want to drag this out any longer. I'm really sad but luckily I wasn't too attached to this pregnancy yet. I'm trying to move on emotionally. She also said that we would do some testing but we have to wait 6 weeks (ugh). But we can test for genetic issues and other stuff. So that's probably a good idea.

Anyway, so that's the story. Thanks again everyone for all your support!

 

[kdmalk]

Just got on to check in briefly at lunch. I'll chime in more later.

Natalie and Leigh. Will be praying for both of you. I am so very sorry.

LOVE the wall, Kate. Now if I could just finish that blanket! Lol

 

[Fleur828815]

Sorry that it's all so complicated Natalie. I hope you'll be able to find a doctor who can help with the tests etc.

Leigh, I'm also so sorry that things didn't work out. I'm glad that your doctor is willing to order the necessary tests, hopefully you'll be able to find out quickly if there's an issue.

Keeping you both in my thoughts.

 

[NDH]

Leigh I'm glad to hear your Dr is starting testing now and not waiting to see if you have a third one first.

I'm trying to talk DH into getting genetic testing done on both of us (just in case) through 23andme but he thinks its pointless. It will cost $300 for me to get tested for mthfr alone here, or $400 for both of us to get full genetic testing including mthfr so to me it seems like a no brainer. But he just says "but we don't even know if that's the problem. Its a lot of money if there's nothing wrong.". Well duh if we knew what the problem was we wouldn't need testing done. We have to find out somehow...

Anyway I've decided to start on baby aspirin after advice from the girls in the recurrent miscarriage thread and doing further research. The potential side effects are pretty minimal, and now that I've had 4 in a small span of time there's a good chance it will be highly effective for me. And of course continuing the dietary changes I implemented a few weeks ago.

 

[Fleur828815]

Natalie, it makes sense to get both of you tested if it's only a $100 difference! And yeah, the whole point of getting tested is to find out if there are any problems! DH is the same though, he doesn't like to spend money "just in case" there's a problem but what if there is?

I hope the baby aspiring and dietary changes will help in the meantime, while you get some answers. Are you doing ok physically?

 

[KTJ006]

Natalie, definitely get both of you tested when the difference is only $100. Go with your gut. Money stuff stinks but if it could potentially reveal what's the matter then I'd go for it.

Leigh, glad your doc is open to testing. That really is a good sign. How do you feel about it? How are you feeling overall? Sending good thoughts your way.

AFM, i'm either 7 or 8 DPO (remember, the ovulation sticks told me I was ovulating a day sooner than my monitor) with brown spotting. It's over a week early to be AF and I would think too early to be implantation bleeding? Can't remember when I got it with my other pregnancies

 

[jlw617]

I don't think it's too early Katie! I tested at what I thought was 10 dpo but it could have been 9dpo because I had the weird high fertility days like you without actually ever seeing a peak day! I would start testing at 10 dpo if I were you. Great job on the wall! I'm tempted to do something like that in my girls' room!

Oh Leigh and Natalie, I'm so sorry you're having to go through this again you will be in my prayers.

 

[KTJ006]

Ladies....we are at 152 pages in the forum! How awesome is that?! I feel grateful for each of you to go on this journey with me!

 

[NDH]

I don't think its too early for IB at all - implantation can happen as early as 6dpo. Do you usually have spotting before AF? A suddenly short cycle seems highly unusual.


Fleur I'm glad mine isnt the only one that way but I'm sorry tour dh is that way too ah well we balance eachother out.

Physically I'm doing ok. Like last time, there isn't anything to have to pass at least, so should just be like a normal period when it does start. So far still just spotting so I'm going to do a vagial steaming and get everything cleaned out well ready for a fresh cycle. Emotionally, im actually finding a bit of closure with Mira from this experience as the pattern is pretty much exactly the same, and though I don't know why its happening its easier knowing that Mira likely never even formed at all rather than my body reabsorbing a 8-9 week fetus as I've been imagining... it sucks that my body hangs onto failed pregnancies though...



I feel like I need something new to focus on to get my mind off the past few months, and my dream has been to live sustainably/homestead for a while so we're now looking into ways to make that happen sooner than later. I've just found the most amazing priperty just fome up for rent so we're going to go inspect it on Saturday and hope this will be the start of some good news...
It's a 100acre property with an established veggies garden within a fenced yard, a dhicken run, stable, big shed, and loads of fruit trees and its $90/week LESS than we're paying in rent. We'd pay a lot more in fuel being 25 minutes out of town but it would still put us in a better place financially and afford us an organic diet and outdoor lifestyle I want. Just so long as it has internet access though or dh will veto the idea of moving...

 

[KTJ006]

Natalie, the land sounds super cool. I always tell DH that we need to just find a ton of land, get some animals and just live. Of course it's more of a dream as we just aren't in the place to do that right now. We eat organic as much as possible (I'm kind of obsessed with it) and have a garden, but there would be nothing like actually living completely off your own land. I'm hoping your DH approves!!

 

[NDH]

It's been a pipe dream for us for years too. But I'm tired of waiting for "someday" and have been inspired to try to make it happen soon. Even if its not our own land right now.
My ultimate goal is to live offgrid in an earthship type sustainable home we've built ourselves but its getting to the point of being able to afford land is a long way off.

I've been trying to garden on our balcony but its not going so well in containers...

 

[coucou11]

Natalie that is so inspiring! I would love to live more sustainably and my dream is to have a garden but we don't even have a yard right now so that will have to wait. It's the way of the future, I think - definitely we will need to be more self-sufficient and start doing things closer to home. I hope it works out! Good luck convincing DH to get the testing, I hope he goes for it. As a one time expense it would seem worth it.

Kate, fingers crossed for IB!! I don't think it's too early at all, I got some last fall on CD11 and I thought that was quite late for implantation.

Thanks everyone for all the thoughts and prayers. I agree, Kate, this forum has been such a blessing! I feel ok, I stopped the progesterone last night so now I am just waiting to bleed. I really hope that it doesn't take forever, I fear that even with my low hcg levels, I might end up having to take medication to induce the miscarriage, since like you Natalie, my body seems to like to hang on to pregnancies.

I'm glad I will be doing the testing with the doctor (whatever it is), but my biggest concern is that these are just random fluky genetic mishaps that have no solution. My past two miscarriages were not very similar, so I think they were both just random, but with two in a row I am concerned that I'm just too old / my eggs are too old, and my chances of getting a bad one are really high. That would mean we just have to keep trying (and potentially failing) until we get it right. That would be very painful. I also read that the chances of a healthy pregnancy after one miscarriage are 90-95%, but after two or more miscarriages, they drop to 65-70%. That is fairly depressing if true.

For now I will just try to focus on other things, projects on the home, maybe looking for a new job, being healthy. Hopefully we'll do the testing in early July and then it's back on the TTC train.

 

[2kidsplusttc3]

Posted,in the wrong thread. Lol.