COQ10 statistics

[2have4kids]

MOONDUST7... There's a good read about DHEA on this site: https://www.centerforhumanreprod.com/premature_ovaries.html and there are scientific studies posted on the lab's website here:
https://www.dhea.com/pages.php?pageid=9

The doctors at the Center for Human Reproduction seem to feel strongly enough to outwardly post about it. I got the DHEA through McPherson labs, this clinic gets their supply there as well. I would absolutely have my levels tested if I were you to ensure you're not boosting your testosterone too high. I've heard of women taking it and having side effects and wonder if they really need it in the first place. They seem to get facial acne and other stuff like that-to me that sounds like too much testosterone.

It's not legal yet in Canada yet, the government seems to feel that it has the ability to effect many adrenal hormone levels and because it's unpredictable on what hormone it'll effect. Both men and women lose testosterone among other hormones as they age and replacing with a supplement that may increase multiple hormones may help slow the aging process (loss of muscle, fertility etc).
When women ovulate progesterone levels increase so as we stop ovulating it plummets. Estrogen & FSH sky rockets trying to pump out more eggs. We can support our progesterone levels and avoid estrogen dominance through diet and keeping the weight off (and progesterone cream too).
https://www.livestrong.com/article/151965-preventing-estrogen-dominance/
https://www.livestrong.com/article/504574-estrogen-dominance-and-the-foods-to-avoid/ (SOY is known to cause infertility, I"m always baffled why women continue to try it).

 

[tupi]

2have4kids if is not legal in Canada how /from where did you buy it?
Thanks

 

[hockey24]

I took coq10 for 1 month and DHEA for almost 3 months and I got my first BFP ever in July after IVF #2. It's still early but hoping this little bean holds strong!!

Hockey, congratulations. Can I ask what your situation is? Age, do you have premature ovarian depletion or PCOS? Any fertility issues? Why did you decide to take DHEA?

I'm 36 and have been on the same regiment...coq10 400mg/2xday, DHEA 2x 50mg/day as they said this may help the premature ovarian depletion. I asked my doc for the DHEAS test and was right on the minimal levels. Have only been taking it for a few months but REALLY hoping it helps as we go in for IVF in Nov if no + before then. Haven't had side effects with either vitamins which is positive news, hoping my system needs the support and pushes out a quality eggie soon! Have a feeling my prob is not only with quantity but at this age and only 1 antral follie left, quality is very likely a huge issue. Thanks in advance for letting me know if this helped you in a similar way.

I was 39 when I started taking for reduced ovarian reserve. My doctor recommended to help with quality of eggs. I did end up with more antral follicles than ever before. Not sure why but if the, vitamins helped, hooray!

 

[2have4kids]

2have4kids if is not legal in Canada how /from where did you buy it?
Thanks

Mcpherson's Labs will send them through the mail anywhere international.

 

[BklynChick74]

I have been lurking for some time and like many of you I am on CoQ10, DHEA, and several other supplements but I am thinking there can be to much of a good thing and seriously considering easing myself off of DHEA and a few others. I been dealing with a few side effects with the most annoying one of going to the bathroom every 2 hours through the day. I am just wondering if it is just me with the side effects of acne, a dull ache in my side and my back, as well as the constant going through the bathroom.

BTW CONGRADS TO ALL THE LADIES WHO HAVE THEIR BFP. You ladies definately give me hope.

 

[alleysm]

Brklyn i started taking 290mg coq10 and had a rash and diarrhea i dropped to 100mg and side effects wheb away. I stopped everything except prenatal, coq10, folic acid.

 

[BklynChick74]

Brklyn i started taking 290mg coq10 and had a rash and diarrhea i dropped to 100mg and side effects wheb away. I stopped everything except prenatal, coq10, folic acid.

Thanks Alleysm - I was so bummed after my m/c a few months ok I think i was over zealous and just jumped on every band wagon but my body is telling me to cool it out so I think I am going to drop back the dosage like you and hope that is enough. A lil of everything is a better then nothing.

 

[moondust7]

2have4kids - thank you, thank you, thank you!! That was really helpful and a great amount of info. I'll take your advice and wait to take DHEA until I'm tested. I'm taking a break from TTC this month but will start again next month. We tried for 3 months, and then will try for 3-4 more, and then will head to test if no BFP before then. I'm guessing my testosterone levels might be ok if you say it can help cause acne... I *definitely* still get facial acne, especially the week before my period!! I always thought that was supposed to go away with the teenage years, but definitely not for me!! I haven't had any MC's (or chemicals or BFP's) yet, so I won't use the progesterone cream until I suspect I might need it or until I get tested. And I do stay away from soy!! I don't want to mess my chances up.

Chicken - CoQ10 is thought to help with sperm mobility... it makes the swimmers like Michael Phelps!! I'm taking 200mg 2x a day (400mg total) of CoQ10 and am giving my DH a 200mg CoQ10 in the morning with his multivitamin.

Alleysm and BklynChick - ya I'm like you, after I ovulate I only take the Prenatal, Prenatal DHA, folic acid and a calcium. This month I will add in the CoQ10 too. Since I'm taking a break TTC for this cycle, I'm also taking vit C, vit E, and EPO, but will stop those when I ovulate next cycle!

 

[alleysm]

I dont know if any of you ladies bbt chart but it is extremely helpful and i highly suggest it. My first year ttc i was winging it all natural and got nothing. Once i started temping i realized that not only were we missing prime time i also had a short luteal phase. As you can see by my siggy three losses later (and a new dr) and i finally have a presciption for progesterone.

 

[2have4kids]

I took coq10 for 1 month and DHEA for almost 3 months and I got my first BFP ever in July after IVF #2. It's still early but hoping this little bean holds strong!!

Hockey, congratulations. Can I ask what your situation is? Age, do you have premature ovarian depletion or PCOS? Any fertility issues? Why did you decide to take DHEA?

I'm 36 and have been on the same regiment...coq10 400mg/2xday, DHEA 2x 50mg/day as they said this may help the premature ovarian depletion. I asked my doc for the DHEAS test and was right on the minimal levels. Have only been taking it for a few months but REALLY hoping it helps as we go in for IVF in Nov if no + before then. Haven't had side effects with either vitamins which is positive news, hoping my system needs the support and pushes out a quality eggie soon! Have a feeling my prob is not only with quantity but at this age and only 1 antral follie left, quality is very likely a huge issue. Thanks in advance for letting me know if this helped you in a similar way.

I was 39 when I started taking for reduced ovarian reserve. My doctor recommended to help with quality of eggs. I did end up with more antral follicles than ever before. Not sure why but if the, vitamins helped, hooray!

Hockey, are you kidding? Really that's amazing. What were your antral counts before/after and what length of time/how much were you on it? Congrats on your BFP!

I have 1 shown on the Feb ultrasound. I'll be asking what it looks like when they start u/snding me again for IVF. There better be lots bright as stars on the screen!

 

[2have4kids]

Bklyn & moon, facial acne can also be caused by estrogen dominance. if your progesterone is low and your body is working hard to pump eggs out, estrogen levels will be high...not getting balanced out with enough progesterone. Google estrogen dominance, it's also the reason many women get cancer around the age of 50+. 15 - 20 years of estrogen dominance can def cause weight gain, breast cancer, infertility & a host of other problems: https://www.womenlivingnaturally.com/articlepage.php?id=72


I never knew what Suzanne Summers was on about all the time and now I sort of get it. I'd very much like to read one of her books one day.

Highly recommend getting the day 3 estrodiol/FSH & day 21 progesterone test to see if this happening. We can help our bodies produce progesterone naturally https://sites.google.com/site/miscarriageresearch/hormones-and-miscarriage/progesterone-research/how-to-increase-progesterone

Never thought getting old would be this complicated!!!! Lol

 

[alleysm]

Thanks 2have! Great post!

 

[BklynChick74]

Bklyn & moon, facial acne can also be caused by estrogen dominance. if your progesterone is low and your body is working hard to pump eggs out, estrogen levels will be high...not getting balanced out with enough progesterone. Google estrogen dominance, it's also the reason many women get cancer around the age of 50+. 15 - 20 years of estrogen dominance can def cause weight gain, breast cancer, infertility & a host of other problems: https://www.womenlivingnaturally.com/articlepage.php?id=72


I never knew what Suzanne Summers was on about all the time and now I sort of get it. I'd very much like to read one of her books one day.

Highly recommend getting the day 3 estrodiol/FSH & day 21 progesterone test to see if this happening. We can help our bodies produce progesterone naturally https://sites.google.com/site/miscarriageresearch/hormones-and-miscarriage/progesterone-research/how-to-increase-progesterone

Never thought getting old would be this complicated!!!! Lol

This is a great article and I thank you for sharing. I never had acne before the supplements but there are some other things on there that have peaked my interest. So I am definitely reading this.

 

[2have4kids]

Hi allysm, I do bbt chart. I'm not super accurate about it. i use the opk's to predict the o because by the time my temp goes up I've already o'd. I use it primarily in the second phase to see if my temp goes down around AF if I'm suspecting that i'm pregnant. While I was on chlomid I had 2 cycles that I could swear I was preggers, just symptoms of all the hormones.

 

[NatoPMT]

Hi girls.

Age: 41 (husband:31)
TTC: 3rd month but 1st really trying (last 2 months pathetic attempts with 1bd per month due to food poisoning and being a new mummy)
Supplements: 120 coenzymeQ10, 5mg folic acid, prenatals and high quality marine oil. 3 x green tea per day for ewcm (works amazingly well)

I have a gorgeous 10 month old baby girl but previously suffered miscarriage and was tested by Mr Taranissi to have killer cell issues, with markers for RA as an autoimmune issue. I need clexane, aspirin, progesterone and steroids during pregnancy. I started taking coenzyme Q10 after reading it on this forum and it seems to have had the added welcome side effect of reducing joint pain. Ive googled COQ10 and found a lot of articles suggesting that killer cells are affected by it, reducing abnormal killer cell activity. Im going to speak to my dr about this as I have a feeling that my inflammation (linked to autoimmune) might have benefitted from this supplement, which might reduce my chances of miscarriage. Here's hoping.

 

[Em J]

Hi

I've just read your post and wanted to wish you the very best of luck with your IVF referral. I had IVF two years ago and have a wonderful 18 mth old son.

Love Em

 

[moondust7]

Hi all

Alleysm - I don't bbt chart... yet... but I know it's a good idea. I do use OPK's (have for the past 2 months). I know that OPK's predict but don't confirm ovulation like the change in bbt, but for now the prediction info is good enough for me, since I'm worried that bbt charting might stress me out a little bit. I'm slowly adding more things to my TTC plan and trying not to do too much at once. My cycles are very regular (28 days) and the OPK's showed positives on CD14 the first month and CD15 the next month. The tests show the gradual increase in LH before the surge, so I really liked that. I do take mental note of my CM, and feel hotter when I ovulate (or am supposed to ovulate, according to the OPK!) and for a few days afterwards, so I'm using my body queues for now. I will definitely start bbt charting after another 2-3 months of trying if no bfp.

2have4kids - thanks for the info re acne. I always get it a few days before and during the start of AF. Another thing I've noticed is that I get it more when I take vitamins with iron (GRRR prenatals!!). If/when I go to a fertility specialist in a few months, I'll make sure to ask for the day-21 test. If I get a chemical pregnancy or start MC'ing, I'll definitely start taking progesterone!!

NatoPMT - Hi! If you don't mind me asking, what were the markers that you had for RA? My mom (she's 69) just got RA within the past year, and I have had iritis (my eyes get really bloodshot and I have to use steroid eye drops to calm it down) the past 4 years. Iritis can be caused from allergies, the environment (it's VERY hot and dry where I live, and I only got iritis when I moved here 5 years ago, so I'm thinking that it's more likely caused by where I live), other personal factors, or it can be a sign of an autoimmune disease. I know I very well could get RA since my mother has it, but for now I have no issues other than my eye, and I'm hoping it's just the environment.

As far as CoQ10 stats go, I upped my dosage to 400mg (200mg twice a day - once in the morning with breakfast, and once in the afternoon with a snack). So far, no side effects, and I'm still happily taking it!

 

[NatoPMT]

Just to add to my previous post, this is my 3rd month of taking CoQ10

Moondust, interesting you mention your eye. I have bloodshot eyes which have gotten worse in the last 4-5 years - since I have been taking CoQ10, the redness has dramatically reduced and I wondered if it was to do with the supplement. I know its a sign of inflammation but spoke to my optician who just changed my contacts last year and it didnt help, but Im due to see her again so will discuss. I stopped eating sugar about 5 months ago as i had a problem with it and that helped slightly, but the joint pain and eye redness have both improved with CoQ10, not sure how long it took but I just noticed one day both had got so much better.

Sorry to hear your mum has RA - horrible condition, my mum had it too, but recently tested negative for it, after a positive test 10 years ago. The markers for RA were within the specific levels of killer cell activity that I was tested for. It was well over a year ago now and i stupidly gave my letters from Mr Taranissi to the hospital in my pregnancy book after i had Eloise, and now have to put a claim for access to medical records to get them back so i dont have them to hand, but from memory, it was the levels of CD56 killer cell interacting with another which i forget that suggests pre-RA immune activity. I wasnt informed of this, but I found it while googling medical papers on killer cells (marker for Early Pregnancy Hysteria). Ive spoken to my GP and she just said to get the letters back and she would prescribe the steroids for me during pregnancy, and i also have to get tested for RA by the NHS. There's nothing medically advised apart from the fact I need steroids for mc prevention, and thats not even definite, Mr T just throws everything at you, and his techniques seem to work. Mr T tests blood and not even uterine killer cell activity, which in itself leaves question marks.

Has the coQ10 helped your eyes at all that you've noticed? I assume not. Have you had any need to have fertility testing for killer cell activity?

Edt just read back to check and seen you have only been taking for a short period. I will await any eye improvement reports with great interest. I would also look into taking low dose aspirin after you get a bfp, it helps with blood flow etc, but it also reduces abnormal killer cell activity. Even if you dont know you have immune issues, it is more routinely given to pregnant women by the NHS now, when just a few years ago GP's were reluctant to agree to it

 

[BklynChick74]

I am relived to see I am not the only one charting. I don;t think i would be consistent with charting first thing in the morning. And i have read that by the time your temp. changes you have more then likely already released an egg and you might have missed the boat. Like many of you I have been relying on OPK's which have worked for me so far. I been using internet cheapies. I have dramtically reduced alot of the supplements i have been taking and now I just stick with CoQ-10, pre-natals, and Maca Root while rotating the other supplements. My acne has started to retreat and a lot of other side effects have started to subside. My cycle is finally back on track and I am just hoping for the BFP before the end of the year. I have been on CoQ-10 offically for a little over two months now.

 

[moondust7]

NatoPMT, Interesting that your eyes get bloodshot too. Mine get really bad when it is hot out... where I live we routinely have *weeks* of temperatures around 105 F (40.6 C) in the summer... yesterday it got up to 102 degrees (38.8 C). Yuck. It's not just the temperature though - the humidity usually stays at about 10-15%, so that doesn't help at all. I have noticed that if I go somewhere hot that has a high humidity, my eyes aren't as bad. While I do think that the weather has a lot to do with my eye problems, the ophthamologist did ask if RA runs in my family, as that could be the underlying cause. I will definitely let you know if I see a difference in my eye and the need for steroid eye drops (I had to use them again today b/c of the heat spell we're having) after taking CoQ10 for a while! The only caveat is that my eye always gets better when the weather cools down, so it will be hard to tell if my eye is getting better this fall as the tempertatures drop, or if it's b/c of the CoQ10.

Wow, that's so interesting that your mum had RA but then tested negative for it!! That's great news. That definitely gives me hope that maybe, hopefully, I can keep it away with good nutrition and exercise....

Ah I'm so sorry you have to go to so much trouble to get your test results back. Hope your tests go well! I have only been trying for 3 months now. This would be the 4th month, but we are not trying this month (actively preventing, actually) but will try again next month.

Thanks for the post and hope you have a great weekend!!