Dealing with azoospermia?

[april4jdg]

hey there! Just checking in with you girls... I am trying to updat my information on here- but I think it is a bit high tech for my feeble brain...LOL

Believe me I am not trying to be secretive about my tttc information...

I am on vacation until Jan 11th- DH has his biopsy on the 6th of jan...We got a call yesterday from the RE's office and even though we have insurance, we have to prepay 1450.00 for the procedure...UGH! I am not sure why we had to do this... whatever.
But I prepaid yesterday. Then they told us we had to come by thier office 2 hours before the procedure to fill out the cryopreservation forms, etc...and also to pick up the vials that the tissue "sample" was to go in...weird...
Thankfully our re's office connects with the hospital dh will be having the biopsy in.

I am just trying to prepare myself-hoping for the best but expecting the worst...I have read so much info on that some doctors don't read into FSH, and a lot that say the do read into it... I am confused...Dh's test were all normal except fsh it was 17.5- not terribly high- but higher than what it should be...

I have driven myself nuts looking for info on klinefelter's, SCO, Kallman's- but the only one i think DH might fight into is SCO...
I also read about the chromosome deletion testing- I read somewhere that if you had a or c deletion there was still hope,but if b it was less hopeful...

My brain is fried...LOL

Anyone here's dh have genetic issues for the azoo?


I have been thinking about you all-maybe I can make it over one day!!! : )

 

[Deb111]

Hi April

That's pretty much what my hubby's FSH level was and I think it should have been below 15. Our urologist told us that even with a level as high as 30, they have sometimes found sperm, so 17.5 doesn't really conclusively tell them anything. And with our SSR, they did find some; only 3; but they were healthy and it still shows he is capable of making them.

His y chromosome micro-deletion test and all of the other genetic tests for CF, Klinefelter's etc, all came back normal so we are at a bit of a loss as to why he has so few sperm and I think that's the frustrating thing; until someone can tell us exactly why we can't definitively say "he has none so let's move onto something else" or "this is the problem and this will fix it".

I totally understand feeling like your brain is fried!!! I said to hubby the other day; "Getting pregnant should be an evening of fun, not something that I feel I can now write a degree about!"

I've checked the first page of this thread and I've already listed your hubby's biopsy date for people to keep track of

Sending you hugs
Deb xx

 

[Deb111]

If anyone else has any dates for me to add to the first page of the thread, let me know and I'll add them xx

 

[april4jdg]

when they tested for all the genetic stuff- what that through tissue sample? or blood samples?

 

[Deb111]

Klinefelter's, CF carrier, y chromosome micro-deletion were all just blood tests

Seroli cell only syndrome is something they would diagnose from the biopsy

xx

 

[april4jdg]

oh- so do think my dh has already been tested for these? he had to do another bloodtest before the biopsy a few months back (he already did one the first day we were at the re's office- the first visit- then the 2nd visit they did another)... they said they were testing it for the same thing as the first time, like aids, and hiv, and std- but the results took longer to get in- like 3+weeks.... that was his 3 round of bloodwork... so you think they would have not scheduled the biopsy if they had found one of the above disorders you mentioned- do they usually test prior to a biopsy before that?

I really think DH may have SCO syndrome- but i am not saying a word.

 

[Deb111]

I would like to think they would have tested his testosterone, FSH and LH levels as well as the HIV, STD's etc and also the genetic ones I mentioned prior to the biopsy. We were told that none of these results would conclusively tell us whether they would find sperm or not and that the only way to do this was to do the biopsy / SSR.

However, certain results can give them an indication of what might be causing it and therefore there may be medications that they feel may help, even if the biopsy is still necessary.

On the other hand, I would not take anything for granted and would ask for a list of what they have tested for and what the results were

xx

 

[april4jdg]

i know they tested for lh, and testosterone, fsh, prolactin, thyroid, Aids, all kinds of stds, mycoplasma, CF, HIV, HBV- that is all i can remember right now.

 

[Nayla82]

Hi Ladies

We were suppose to get my husbands Blood results on Monday but after work last night the Urologist called my Husband to go to the clinic as the blood tests and results came in within 24hours.

My husbands blood test was within the Normal range, DH said the DR did not give a figure just said his LH and FSH and Test are all fine Also does Ultrasound see any blockages? That came back ok, just said that the veins look a little bigger than usual (if you sit and stand for long periods it causes that?) and its a little inflamed again Urologist said that will sort itself out.

He has put my Husband on 50 mg on Clomid for the next 6 weeks and told him to continue with Zinc and Multi vitamins and wants him to do the 3rd sample than. March 4th will be his 3rd and final Sample if you dont mind putting me on the front page Deb for Testing Thank you.

Urologist said once he sees if the Clomid has worked? and even though it was 2 that was found hopefully the Clomid would make them a strong healthy 2 and hopefully if theres any Sperms we can go on to do ICSI Again this all Depends on Sperms that are found and if they are healthy? Im very nervous, and I just feel were hanging on a string of thread

Going to try and think Happy thoughts and we will see.

Wishing you all a happy and safe new year xx

Will just wait and see now xx

 

[Deb111]

Nayla - that's great that your Dr seems to be on board - our FS / GP just fob us off when we mention clomid, but it's great that your Dr is open to trying things

Wishing you everything you wish for in 2011 xx

 

[Nayla82]

God bless you Deb! Urologist said it might or it might not work? will just see now its crazy he has 6 boxes of clomids I have read the boxes no information about sperm increasing?? Just a lot about ovulation and regulates periods?? Hope it does the trick : its costing us an arm and a leg but I hope it works for us.

He also said come back in 2 months not 3?? And sperms get better after 6weeks i would rather wait 3 months just in case he seems to know what he's doing.

I hope and pray 3rd time lucky, if all goes to plan ICSI will be booked. He told DH anything can happen and he's doing his best.
He has not mentioned blockages and azoospermia?? Do you just think my husband has a severly low count? Theres no explanation and ultra sound was ok I'm think zero two must be a little better with Clomid?? Will update you all soon....

I also pray that 2011 will be sheer magic for us all xx

 

[Deb111]

I don't know enough about it, but wanted some info from our FS - but he was unable to help. However, when we spoke to Dr Turek in the US, he immediately said hubby should be on it It does feel like we're clutching at straws at times, but anything is worth a go.

Do you mind me asking how much the clomid has cost you?

xx

 

[Deb111]

Thought this might give some of you a little boost. This time of year can be so hard xx

https://www.thedontquitpoem.com/

 

[Nayla82]

Debs my husband has all the receipts and I'm looking at it now looks rather confusing I think it looks like £62 Clomid and normal multi vitamins is £24 than £160 for blood tests full examination and ultra sound, so far it's like £250 but i just hope its worthwhile.

I wonder why your GP is refusing Clomid theres no harm in trying?? I'm trying to read up on it and there's a few Good stories online.

Xx

 

[Deb111]

I don't think the GP is refusing it so much as not aware that it can be used for this and knows nothing about it xx

 

[Deb111]

Just stopping by to wish you all a happy new year!

Linzie - so excited that 2011 will be the year you get to meet your LO!

To everyone else, I hope that 2011 brings us all some positive news and that we can all start taking those steps towards a 2011 xx

 

[loobylou_01]

Thanks Deb! What a strange year it has been, still feeling stunned by everything to be honest!

Just logged on to have a quick catch up and gosh it looks like loads has been happening. Wishing all the ladies on here all the very best, when i think of the low place we were in a year ago it amazes me how lucky we have been even if we've had to do things differently than we'd hoped. I hope so much that you all get the outcomes you dream off xxxx

 

[Nayla82]

Happy New Year to all you lovely ladies!!

Hope everyone had a great start to 2011!! xx and im sure most of us last year thought that we will be seeing in 2011 with a bump or a baby Because I certainly did I remember so clearly at the start of 2010 saying this is the year I will get pregnant 100%.... Its crazy the difference a year makes.

I promised myself to smile in 2011 even though when i think long and hard of the hardships I faced I just wanted to but I did pull myself together and went to a lovely house party... Despite people going around the room asking one and other what would you like to happen/change this year.. I said to be healthy and happy and someone thought to butt in and say you should make starting a family your priority for the new year you will be a great mum.. aghhhh There is always one in every group I guess asking questions about babies I think should be considered Rude and a never Question Really is upsetting.

Like i mentioned new year new start. and im sure by the end of 2011 we will all have some good stories to share

Jo- I pray iVF works magic for you..

Debs- I hope you find all your answers your a tough cookie keep going i have good feelings about 2011 for us all. Also about Clomid your FS is right in the sense that its a pot luck treatment, my DH said the Urologist made it very clear that it may work and it may not..? its not guranteed to work wonders? but seeing that my husband had 2 very bad sperms I think his aim is trying too see if they get stronger or can move up a bit? Dr said in some patients nothing happens and in others bring them up by a few? certainly not hundreds and thousands? Im leaving everything in Gods hands I hope it works Im very very curious if it works.. theres also 100mg Clomid but he just gave 50mg (wished was 100mg as im getting so desperate and scared) will just see what happens.. I just hope and pray there will be 1 healthy sperm as he said to my husband even if they find the 1 they will go on to ICSI... Again I know all my dreams can end in a blink of eye only time will tell.

Will keep everyone updated,

Enjoy your weekend love and hugs xx

 

[Deb111]

Nayla - you should start a journal hun so we can come and stalk you! - great place to have a good old rant sometimes, but also nice to have a record of your journey to that xx

 

[Nayla82]

Your right Hun! I just started a Journal what a time to start 1 Jan

I might sound a little silly how do i get it on the bottom of my screen now? I cant seem to figure it out?? xx

Please tell me the easy way of doing it lol thanks xx