Dealing with azoospermia?

[Hpe_1]

O i was with him for both SA since we could do it at home but it did not help he was still freaked out by the whole thing My obgyn Dr ordered the SA, first one came back abnormal so she ordered a second same results. First results had 40,000 per ml second 0. Both had low mobility ect. My doc last month referred us to the RE and he gave us the results and did the blood work/genetic testing.

 

[BettiS]

I'm so sorry about your loss CM, can't even begin to imagine how you must feel right now...

EOE - I have taken up photography since DH gave me a nice camera for my birthday. Thought I'd share a collage from a shoot I did on my cousin's 3-month-old baby girl.

 

[rdleela]

Hi, everyone, wow, so many new members on this thread!

It's been a long time since I've posted, but need to update and give anyone dealing with obstructive azoospermia some hope!

Recap: DH had a hernia repair and undescendent testicle surgery at a very early age (newborn hernia and about 2 or 3 yrs old for the other one). Due to these surgeries, his left testicle never formed, and his right testicle only partially formed. He had a TON of scarring down there, and thus, had zero sperm in ejaculate.

September 28th, 2012, DH had a surgery to by-pass the blockage. The surgeon at that time found all the scarring and we learned about his poor testicles. The surgeon said the surgery was VERY difficult, and that it was a 50/50 shot on whether the surgery would be successful. He did find live sperm at surgery time.

Early December 2012, 2 months post-op, SA results = zero sperm.

Yesterday, we had an appointment with our fertility clinic to say "let's do IVF". The Dr. informed us that we would have to travel to Toronto (we live in Alberta) to do IVF, as no one in Alberta does the surgery my DH needs to extract sperm (I think it's a tough surgery for DH as he's already had two surgeries in 2012 down there). So that was kind of a blow, the added travel costs. But you do what you have to, right? Anyways, the Dr. said, "we should do another SA b/c it's been 3 months since your last one, and even if we find only 10 sperm, we'll freeze them, and elimate the TESE so that you guys can do IVF here locally!" We totally agreed, so hubby did an SA this morning at the fertility clinic, AND OMG he had 600,000 sperm show up!!! 30% motility! We COULD NOT believe it!

We are EXACTLY 5 months post-op, and we are hoping that over the next few months, with some follow-up SA's, that we see some progression! (The surgeon emailed me back after I told him our good news, and said it is possible to see progression on count and motility up to a year post-op.)

At the very least, IVF costs will be lower, but MAYBE we could do IUI's if we get the sperm count up!

So ladies, there is TOTALLY hope if you are dealing with obstructive azoospermia!!!! We had the most difficult surgery with the most difficult outcome, and we now have sperm in ejaculate!!!!

Please, please PM me if you have any questions!

 

[Deb111]

AMAZING NEWS rdleela x

 

[AuCa]

Thanks for this encouraging post dleela!! I just PMed you with a question....

 

[MrsG30]

Thanks for this encouraging post dleela!! I just PMed you with a question....

hi hun
how are your tests coming on?
we are "blocking it out" "not talking about it" "ignoring the fact its happening" at the minute!!!
we go for D 2nd SA on tuesday and waiting patently for a urological app.
feel useless

 

[AuCa]

Hi MrsG,

sorry to hear that you guys are not doing so well right now
My husband also never brings up the topic, but I do from time to time (I honestly just can't help it), and when I do he's usually fine talking about it. At some time point he'll have to face things since there will be decisions to be made.

Our 2nd SA is a week after yours (1 month wait time when we booked it!!), and I know DH wants to do a home test before that (I put him on supplements at the end of last year, and he wants to see if anything changed). So I'm a bit worried that he'll be down again if he realizes that nothing changed.
We've done all the blood tests (incl genetics), but waiting for results. Our next consult is at the end of March, so still have quite a bit of waiting to do

 

[tulip11]

hi girls how are you doing ? We got our app letter and DH app with Urologist would be on 19th april..just want to know that those who went through this does it take long time after 1st appointment ?

 

[MrsG30]

Hi MrsG,

sorry to hear that you guys are not doing so well right now
My husband also never brings up the topic, but I do from time to time (I honestly just can't help it), and when I do he's usually fine talking about it. At some time point he'll have to face things since there will be decisions to be made.

Our 2nd SA is a week after yours (1 month wait time when we booked it!!), and I know DH wants to do a home test before that (I put him on supplements at the end of last year, and he wants to see if anything changed). So I'm a bit worried that he'll be down again if he realizes that nothing changed.
We've done all the blood tests (incl genetics), but waiting for results. Our next consult is at the end of March, so still have quite a bit of waiting to do

My hubby wont talk unless i bring it up either.
our FS kinda gave my hubby hope that his 2nd test ay be better- thats really annoyed me- dont want him to think were going to get super sperm- if you know what i mean.

were waiting on blood results too and waiting on urolgy app- im going to chase it up when we go on tuesday for SA.

wish the process was a bit quicker

 

[Verity Belle]

My hubby is like that, won't talk about it, but I need to sometimes just to process what is going on and deal with it all, he doesn't want anyone to know so he is the only one I can talk to about it and we had a big bust up the other day so that was fun!
Wish the process was quicker too.
Hope everyone is ok xx

 

[AuCa]

I hear you ladies......
I'm like you Verity Belle (and I think many women are like this) - if I can't talk about my problems I have a really hard time and I get quite depressed. I actually e-mailed a friend of mine two days ago and told her a bit about our struggles (she lives across the ocean and thus I thought it was safe to tell her), and I felt SOOOO much better after that. It's great to have the online support, but it's still different to talk about it with family/friends.

 

[MrsG30]

Total meltdown from me tonight- hubby just bursting out "do you really think were ever going to have any kids"
How do I answer that? Surely "yes" is the most natural thing in the worls but for me i had no words.
I;m really struggling, and not even with the "treatments and knowing nothing is going to be conventional" just with the not knowing and ow long things take.
I feel like im losing the plot

 

[Verity Belle]

Hugs to everyone xx

 

[AuCa]

Total meltdown from me tonight- hubby just bursting out "do you really think were ever going to have any kids"
How do I answer that? Surely "yes" is the most natural thing in the worls but for me i had no words.
I;m really struggling, and not even with the "treatments and knowing nothing is going to be conventional" just with the not knowing and ow long things take.
I feel like im losing the plot

Sorry hun
I also feel that the uncertainty is the worst of all. I ended up booking an appointment with my GP to see if she can access my blood tests (Day 3 hormone levels etc), since I'm just going crazy waiting for the appt at the fertility clinic (still 3 weeks to go ).
Since we got our diagnosis my own body has been also going haywire, which started worrying me. Used to have somewhat regular cycles, but now last cycle was 50 days long, then had mid-cycle spotting (which i NEVER have), and looks like this cycle is going to be super long too

I just always say - we'll do whatever we can to have one, and if it doesn't work we at least know that we've done anything possible. In that case we might move on to adoption. In the end I just would like to have a family of some sort....

 

[MrsG30]

Total meltdown from me tonight- hubby just bursting out "do you really think were ever going to have any kids"
How do I answer that? Surely "yes" is the most natural thing in the worls but for me i had no words.
I;m really struggling, and not even with the "treatments and knowing nothing is going to be conventional" just with the not knowing and ow long things take.
I feel like im losing the plot

Sorry hun
I also feel that the uncertainty is the worst of all. I ended up booking an appointment with my GP to see if she can access my blood tests (Day 3 hormone levels etc), since I'm just going crazy waiting for the appt at the fertility clinic (still 3 weeks to go ).
Since we got our diagnosis my own body has been also going haywire, which started worrying me. Used to have somewhat regular cycles, but now last cycle was 50 days long, then had mid-cycle spotting (which i NEVER have), and looks like this cycle is going to be super long too

I just always say - we'll do whatever we can to have one, and if it doesn't work we at least know that we've done anything possible. In that case we might move on to adoption. In the end I just would like to have a family of some sort....

I know love- when i read your replies i feel like i have wrote it- we are exactly on the same page. Even what you said about your periods, mine seem to be doing what they like? i think its all the worry and stress.

We go for the 2nd SA tomorrow so hoping we get to ask a few more questions and find out the results off his blood work as its nearly 2 weeks since he had the xx

 

[AuCa]

Wishing you all the best for your SA and appointment tomorrow MrsG30!

 

[maybeBmommy]

Time just ticks so much slower in this position.
I used to be excited about our next step (meeting with the fertility clinic for a consult on the 15th) but now I'm feeling like its pointless.

I mean, how are we even gonig to pay for treatments? My husband is in such denial that I truely think that he still thinks we are going to be able to do this naturally.

Why can't they just have appointments be closer together? Ugh. Struggling bad today.

 

[MrsG30]

Time just ticks so much slower in this position.
I used to be excited about our next step (meeting with the fertility clinic for a consult on the 15th) but now I'm feeling like its pointless.

I mean, how are we even gonig to pay for treatments? My husband is in such denial that I truely think that he still thinks we are going to be able to do this naturally.

Why can't they just have appointments be closer together? Ugh. Struggling bad today.

hunny.
i had a day like that yesterday but i ust keep telling yself we will get there and so will you.
do as they say, keep on at the FS- hopefully speed things along- come your chin up xxx

 

[AuCa]

maybeBmommy - I'm sorry that your husband seems to be in denial. It's not really helpful for the situation, but maybe he needs it right now to cope with everything and it will just be a phase.
To be honest, the only good thing about the whole wait in my opinion is that it gives us time to save up some money...

MrsG30 - let us know how your SA/appt went today

 

[tulip11]

Hi everyone. Does anybody know how much time does this whole treatment till the last stage take place in uk I mean approximately the rough estimate ? Like our first appointment with urologist ill be on april 19th so idk whether in first appointment we ill come to know something or not ? Or does the accompanying appointments takes long time as well ?