Dealing with azoospermia?

[MrsG30]

I'm so sorry MrsG30

I don't think you should give up yet. Does he have a TESE scheduled already?

We have a app booked in for 9th may for urology department but thats just inital consultation, apprently the wait for some of tests performed is 9 month in the Uk. Feeling horrendous today and hubby is in a right state.
At least i hope at this app the urologist will be able to tell us the way forward???

We have our own donor but he has to go through the usual procedures like any other donor would so i hope we can start that ball rolling soon too even if its just back up.

 

[Deb111]

Here I come mrsG!

Right deep breath and dont give up hope. Obviously I dont want to get your hopes up unrealistically but all is not lost.

My hubby hadnt had mumps so that may affect things but his testosterone was just under the lower limit and his fsh was raised. An fsh of 28 rings a bell but I need to double check that. A raised fsh indicates the body has detected the problem and is trying to fix it but it can be pushed into the 40's. I remember our specialist saying he had found sperm in a man who had an fsh in the 40's. Im going to try and get on the pc in a bit and link you to some info in my ICSI journal from when we met with our specialist x

 

[Jojo27]

Mrs g, you will get through this tough time, both you and your DH.
My DH has azoospermia, had ssr and only abnormal sperm found, therefore no luck, however we have accepted this and are now ready to move forward in achieving our long awaited child x x

 

[Deb111]

Girls - I know I asked this not so long ago but dont think i had many replies and if i did, they got lost in pages of posts - SO if you would like me to add you to the list on the front page or add anyone new, please PM me. If you could type your b'n'b name followed by a sentence or 2 saying where you are at with things, i will update x

 

[tigerlily1975]

Thanks again, Deb, we'd be lost without you!! I hope little Aimee is doing well

Tigerlily: DH on Clomid, hoping to go for private 2nd mTESE/ICSI April/May 2013.

and to all!

C xx

 

[Deb111]

She is doing great thanks Tiger.
Can you PM me your update as i cant do it easily from phone and it will be much easier if everyones updates are in my PM inbox when i get a chance to get on the pc x x

 

[tigerlily1975]

Will do. Thanks again, lovely. Give Aimee a little cuddle from her Azoo aunties

C xx

 

[AuCa]

Tigerlily - just saw that your DH is on clomid. This was suggested to us as well, so I was wondering - how long has your DH been on it, and have you seen any results yet? Any significant side effects? Thanks!

 

[tigerlily1975]

Auca

DH has been on it just over 3 months now. He had a SA just on 3 months and there was nothing, unfortunately. Our consultant is still hopeful though as a few sperm were found when DH had his TESE last year. He suspects that the area where they found sperm is still recovering from the surgery and that the drugs might help kick-start production in that area once healed. DH is off to provide another sample on Tuesday and we should get those results on Friday. As for side effects, DH is not on a particularly high dosage, but according to our consultant the only issue might be an increased sex drive!

As you and everyone else is aware, Azoo is frustratingly all 'hopes' and 'maybes' most of the time.

Good luck, sweetie and if I can help, do ask.



C xx

 

[raelynn]

Mrs G - Just want to give you a little hope from another case as well. My hubby had slightly elevated fsh as well. No mumps again but both our RE and the urologist diagnosed him as NOA. We had a TESE just to see what we could find and they successfully retrieved sperm, enough for us to use for IVF. Unfortunately, we ended up with only 2 embryos so we used them both in one round of IVF. I did get pregnant but miscarried very early on. So there is still hope of finding sperm to use even with NAO.

In our situation, we ultimately chose to go with donor but that was just our personal choice based on cost, hubby not wanting to go through another TESE, and the fear of going through another miscarriage. But, we had the option and even have a vial of a couple of hubby's sperm frozen still in case we choose to go down that route again later. So, don't give up hope. There are still amazing things that can be done medically for you even with this terrible diagnosis.

 

[MrsG30]

Here I come mrsG!

Right deep breath and dont give up hope. Obviously I dont want to get your hopes up unrealistically but all is not lost.

My hubby hadnt had mumps so that may affect things but his testosterone was just under the lower limit and his fsh was raised. An fsh of 28 rings a bell but I need to double check that. A raised fsh indicates the body has detected the problem and is trying to fix it but it can be pushed into the 40's. I remember our specialist saying he had found sperm in a man who had an fsh in the 40's. Im going to try and get on the pc in a bit and link you to some info in my ICSI journal from when we met with our specialist x

Hi hun
I knew you would come with your excellant info- very greatful- as i a too all of you.
exactly what your saying is pretty much what our letter says.
look forward to reading your link xx

 

[MrsG30]

Auca

DH has been on it just over 3 months now. He had a SA just on 3 months and there was nothing, unfortunately. Our consultant is still hopeful though as a few sperm were found when DH had his TESE last year. He suspects that the area where they found sperm is still recovering from the surgery and that the drugs might help kick-start production in that area once healed. DH is off to provide another sample on Tuesday and we should get those results on Friday. As for side effects, DH is not on a particularly high dosage, but according to our consultant the only issue might be an increased sex drive!

As you and everyone else is aware, Azoo is frustratingly all 'hopes' and 'maybes' most of the time.

Good luck, sweetie and if I can help, do ask.



C xx

Hi Tiger

how long does DH have to take clomid for and do you know the sucess rates for it improving? thanks hun

 

[MrsG30]

Mrs G - Just want to give you a little hope from another case as well. My hubby had slightly elevated fsh as well. No mumps again but both our RE and the urologist diagnosed him as NOA. We had a TESE just to see what we could find and they successfully retrieved sperm, enough for us to use for IVF. Unfortunately, we ended up with only 2 embryos so we used them both in one round of IVF. I did get pregnant but miscarried very early on. So there is still hope of finding sperm to use even with NAO.

In our situation, we ultimately chose to go with donor but that was just our personal choice based on cost, hubby not wanting to go through another TESE, and the fear of going through another miscarriage. But, we had the option and even have a vial of a couple of hubby's sperm frozen still in case we choose to go down that route again later. So, don't give up hope. There are still amazing things that can be done medically for you even with this terrible diagnosis.

Raelyn
thanks for this- helped me settle a bit before bed.
my hubby actually suggested exactly what you said you did- he seems to be coping better than me
I feel so sad- not even for me- for him

 

[raelynn]

I know exactly how you feel! All my sadness and disappointment was wrapped up in hubby not being able to have a biological child. I still think about it now to be honest. But, I asked hubby if it is weird or if he thinks about it at all and he said he doesn't. Now that I'm pregnant all the focus has shifted to baby, not how she came to be. So, regardless of how you get to that final stage of having your little one, you'll just be thrilled to have a baby, I'm sure!

 

[BrandyRelax]

Ladies.

any advise would be helpful
We have recieved a letter from our FS this morning- from what i can gather this isnt great news:
FSH @ 35.1 Testosterone "on the low" side which indicates the primary problem is with the testes growing sperm rather than a blockage.

I presumed this as he had bad mumps age at the age for 20.

We have a uroligst app in May but am i right in thinking the chnace of sperm being found are very low based on this?

thanks

I'm no expert here, but I thought I'd chime in.

Our Urologist, who specializes in MFI, said that the FSH levels do not impact the likelihood of finding sperm. He said regardless, the odds are 50/50, and until he gets in there, he can't tell what is causing the issue. We had asked because we wanted to make sure there was a point in doing an mTESE.

My DH's FSH was 39, morning testosterone of 21.6, and LH of 16. They have no idea what is causing my hubby's azoo. They did the mTESE March 5th, and found 3 sperm. The FS believes they're dead but because the Urologist now knows that he is making fully formed sperm (and doesn't have seretoli only or maturation arrest), he can take a different approach and current thought is to do a second mTESE with a fresh IVF cycle.

 

[tigerlily1975]

MrsG30

Our consultant has said sperm production is generally three months, which is why he wanted to do the SA after three months on clomid. As for results whilst on the medication, we've not been given any odds regarding success.

As BrandyRelax has said, it seems like they don't really know until they go in, unfortunately.

Good luck!



C xx

 

[AuCa]

As for results whilst on the medication, we've not been given any odds regarding success.

I've actually done some literature search on recent research about this yesterday, and the point is - they don't know. There has only been a few clinical trials with very mixed results. That's why docs won't give a success rate - they literally have no idea.

 

[MrsG30]

I know exactly how you feel! All my sadness and disappointment was wrapped up in hubby not being able to have a biological child. I still think about it now to be honest. But, I asked hubby if it is weird or if he thinks about it at all and he said he doesn't. Now that I'm pregnant all the focus has shifted to baby, not how she came to be. So, regardless of how you get to that final stage of having your little one, you'll just be thrilled to have a baby, I'm sure!

I Know i keep telling myself that and your living proof i guess xxx

 

[MrsG30]

Ladies.

any advise would be helpful
We have recieved a letter from our FS this morning- from what i can gather this isnt great news:
FSH @ 35.1 Testosterone "on the low" side which indicates the primary problem is with the testes growing sperm rather than a blockage.

I presumed this as he had bad mumps age at the age for 20.

We have a uroligst app in May but am i right in thinking the chnace of sperm being found are very low based on this?

thanks

I'm no expert here, but I thought I'd chime in.

Our Urologist, who specializes in MFI, said that the FSH levels do not impact the likelihood of finding sperm. He said regardless, the odds are 50/50, and until he gets in there, he can't tell what is causing the issue. We had asked because we wanted to make sure there was a point in doing an mTESE.

My DH's FSH was 39, morning testosterone of 21.6, and LH of 16. They have no idea what is causing my hubby's azoo. They did the mTESE March 5th, and found 3 sperm. The FS believes they're dead but because the Urologist now knows that he is making fully formed sperm (and doesn't have seretoli only or maturation arrest), he can take a different approach and current thought is to do a second mTESE with a fresh IVF cycle.

Hi Hun
wow, thanks for that- so what did they do with the 3 they did found? xxx

 

[WannabemomRN]

I've been MIA for a few months. DH was put on a 12 week round of ovedril by fertility doc. Until this month I have been cool as a cucumber, but now that we're down to the wire preparing for another SA and lab draws I'm a wreck. Of all the times for my body to go haywire it picks this month. I started spotting friday (roughly one week before period due) so my wack spidey senses decide that the medication must have worked, it's implantation bleeding! Since we're all made of money I start buying boocoo prego tests. My crazy mind has seen that coveted second line (last month) but MD confirmed the test lied. Anyone else been through this craziness?!?!? I'm losing my mind. My bathroom trash: Where prego tests go to die.