Do you think that hospitals should provide formula milk?

[special_kala]

Theres tons of things we could do to save hospitals money! Why is formula one that is first in line?!
If your going to remove a babies meal, then remove everyone elses too as its essentially the same thing!

okay, well then they shouldn't supply nappies then either. After all, no one goes into hospital not intending on putting their baby in nappies. They should supply them themselves. Why should it be up to the hospital to do that?

It's the same principle,. knowing what your baby will need in those first days, based on what you've decided and making sure you as the mother/father provide that.

 

[ShanandBoc]

It seems that its some of the FF turning this into a BF vs FF discussion. Personally dont see the need for it but whatever makes your day go quicker i guess

Just wow. Like i said if its not about formula, what is it about. Its those against it that are turning this into a FF v's BF debate. Why is formula being singled out?

Money?

No because then you would all be discussing that all meals shoudnt be provided for. Why only formula.

Man does anyone else have a case of De javu?

 

[buttonnose82]

I wonder if there was this kinda uproar when hospitals stopped provide nappies......

but I stand by what I said (I am a breast feeding muummy by the way) ....

Nutrition is a basic human need! This is regardless of age/health/income or whatever you want too throw into the mix, as long as the baby is fed then that should be all that matters, use hubby's taxes too pay for formula, I don't care, a baby has just as much right too have their nutritional needs met than any other person walking into the hospital.

 

[Lellow]

Theres tons of things we could do to save hospitals money! Why is formula one that is first in line?!
If your going to remove a babies meal, then remove everyone elses too as its essentially the same thing!

okay, well then they shouldn't supply nappies then either. After all, no one goes into hospital not intending on putting their baby in nappies. They should supply them themselves. Why should it be up to the hospital to do that?
It's the same principle,. knowing what your baby will need in those first days, based on what you've decided and making sure you as the mother/father provide that.

Hospitals dont provide nappies

 

[Kota]

and as a mother, you should be responsible for providing that food for YOUR baby, however that may be, Not relying on someone else to do it for you.

And you have no help what so ever in regards to providing for YOUR baby?

Irrelevant surely?

More to the point though, I take responsibility for the choices I make in regards to my baby. From the day he was born, If I'd made a choice to do with his care, then I had the things I needed to provide that without expecting someone else to hand them to me simply because it was there.

Thats my whole point here, that if you make the informed decision to FF from birth, then you take on the responsibility of providing the required stuff to do that. It's not up to anyone else to pay your way.

No not irrelevent, Most people CHOOSE to bring a child into this world therfore should they provide everything for their baby without any help?

going a bit off topic arn't you there? Theres a BIG difference between a mother choosing to FF, providing that formula herself when her baby is born, and a mother never getting help from anyone ever from that day forth which seems to be what you want me to say. .

Its the same principle....no?......

No.

 

[PepsiChic]

I don't think it's an advertising ploy? midwifes werent even allowed to ''suggest'' a brand of formula to us!

So isn't a company supplying a hospital with there formula free of charge all in the name of free advertising?

It certainly isn't out of the goodness of there hearts!

hospitals arent provided with formula for free, who came up with that idea? in the UK taxes and hospital grants go towards buying formula, and in the US the hospitals pay for it. they DO get it cheaper but only because they buy it in huge amounts of bulk.

its nothing to do with advertising

and as for "well you get lactation specialists" etc...we're not all that lucky. like i said previously, i told them i was breastfeeding, yet got given bottles of formula for free but had to BUY a nipple shield from them, got all of 5 minutes with the lactation specialist and had a really hard time getting baby to latch due to inverted nipples. - it completely depends on where you are, the hospital your in and the patient:staff ratio.

if hospitals are going to provide formula they need to provide nipple shields and so forth because they dont ALL provide that.

some things do seem like common sense though....if your going to have a baby and you PLAN on FF...take a tin of formula to hospital with you. and the excuse "you might not have time when you go into labour"...well your suppose to pack your hospital bag well before that..you could put a tin in the bag MONTHS before you go into labour formula does last a fair while!

i mean we take outfits, diapers, wipes and so forth when we go into hospital to have a baby...but not food for the baby?

and the other thing i want to say is that people are saying "well its only formula every 3 hours and your only in there 6 -12 hours...um not in the US! hospital stay in 48 hours after an uncomplicated birth and babys tend to eat every 2 hours. hospitals also tend to use pre-made bottles because they dont have time to stand there and make up bottles for every baby on the ward and so a lot of formula is wasted because the pre-made bottles are normally 4-6oz.

 

[special_kala]

It seems that its some of the FF turning this into a BF vs FF discussion. Personally dont see the need for it but whatever makes your day go quicker i guess

Just wow. Like i said if its not about formula, what is it about. Its those against it that are turning this into a FF v's BF debate. Why is formula being singled out?

Money?

No because then you would all be discussing that all meals shoudnt be provided for. Why only formula.

Man does anyone have a case of De javu?

because another patient doesnt choose to be in hospital. People choose to use formula over BF.

BTW my daughter is formula fed

 

[lolababes]

Wow not reading it all

Personally yes I think they should, for the benefit of all those out there who cant bf. I chose to ff so took my own (didnt know my hospital provided it) as it happens I bf'd while in hospital so didnt need it

Why should that be taken away when essentially it is feeding the PATIENT??

 

[ShanandBoc]

We are not talking about nappies, we are talking about food. I dont know about you but i didnt expect the hospital to provide my underwear but food yes.

 

[Janidog]

Wow not reading it all

Personally yes I think they should, for the benefit of all those out there who cant bf. I chose to ff so took my own (didnt know my hospital provided it) as it happens I bf'd while in hospital so didnt need it

Why should that be taken away when essentially it is feeding the PATIENT??

Don't go there - apparently babies arn't patients

 

[ShanandBoc]

It seems that its some of the FF turning this into a BF vs FF discussion. Personally dont see the need for it but whatever makes your day go quicker i guess

Just wow. Like i said if its not about formula, what is it about. Its those against it that are turning this into a FF v's BF debate. Why is formula being singled out?

Money?

No because then you would all be discussing that all meals shoudnt be provided for. Why only formula.

Man does anyone have a case of De javu?

because another patient doesnt choose to be in hospital. People choose to use formula over BF.

BTW my daughter is formula fed

Nope, dont get ya. Sorry.

 

[PepsiChic]

We are not talking about nappies, we are talking about food. I dont know about you but i didnt expect the hospital to provide my underwear but food yes.

bit off topic maybe...but the hospital actually did give me some cheap almost paper underwear!

 

[ShanandBoc]

Wow not reading it all

Personally yes I think they should, for the benefit of all those out there who cant bf. I chose to ff so took my own (didnt know my hospital provided it) as it happens I bf'd while in hospital so didnt need it

Why should that be taken away when essentially it is feeding the PATIENT??

Don't go there - apparently babies arn't patients

 

[smelly07]

and as a mother, you should be responsible for providing that food for YOUR baby, however that may be, Not relying on someone else to do it for you.

And you have no help what so ever in regards to providing for YOUR baby?

Irrelevant surely?

More to the point though, I take responsibility for the choices I make in regards to my baby. From the day he was born, If I'd made a choice to do with his care, then I had the things I needed to provide that without expecting someone else to hand them to me simply because it was there.

Thats my whole point here, that if you make the informed decision to FF from birth, then you take on the responsibility of providing the required stuff to do that. It's not up to anyone else to pay your way.

No not irrelevent, Most people CHOOSE to bring a child into this world therfore should they provide everything for their baby without any help?

going a bit off topic arn't you there? Theres a BIG difference between a mother choosing to FF, providing that formula herself when her baby is born, and a mother never getting help from anyone ever from that day forth which seems to be what you want me to say. .

Its the same principle....no?......

No.

YES

 

[ShanandBoc]

We are not talking about nappies, we are talking about food. I dont know about you but i didnt expect the hospital to provide my underwear but food yes.

bit off topic maybe...but the hospital actually did give me some cheap almost paper underwear!

Im hoping u took your own tho.

Boy i bet they were sexy!!!

 

[Raggydoll]

If it's about choice then what about people who choose to mess their bodies up with drugs? They still get the same care, meals provided.

 

[ellie]

I love how the people strongly FOR the idea are the ones saying "its the ones against it that are turning it into bf vs ff" ... 1. no one really is, as far as i can see 2. even if it was, it takes two sides to have a debate/discussion so its impossible for only one side to turn it into anything unless the other side does as well ....

I think this is about formula because we've all given birth and had the experience of establishing feeding one way or another, and so it's one thing we can all say we know at least a little bit about (and some people know a LOT about it) and its obviously something close to our hearts. Some people seem to have a tendency to take it all very personally and react really defensively, which is what often starts off with the personal attacks.

And after all the original question that started the thread in the first place was about formula so of course its gonna be about formula

 

[charli87]

i havent read other replies as no doubt its turned sour as always but imo the hospital should have some for people who struggle with breastfeeding but it shouldnt be given out to people who just refuse to even try breastfeeding. I personally feel the nhs should be spendind money on staff etc in the maternity ward rather than formula for people that have already decided they aren't going to breastfeed, thats my opinion as i feel if they gave it out to everyone people wouldnt perciveer(sp?) with breastfeeding as it doesnt always work straight away it can take time and some practise

But you have NO idea why that person may not want to even try bf. I have heard of a few mothers that couldnt bear the thought of it due to sexual abuse etc

well as i said thats my opinion, im not getting into rows over something like this its ridiculous im entitled to my opinon if you dont agree with it then move on to the next post

 

[NG09]

If it's about choice then what about people who choose to mess their bodies up with drugs? They still get the same care, meals provided.

Aparently that's different. I don't quite understand how it's different and although people say it's ridiculous to make such a statement nobody has actually piped up and said why!

Maybe it would be a different story if the drug addicts were being given free formula? IDK!

 

[Boony]

arguing over it isnt going to change the fact that the NHS are phasing out supplying formula! I would suspect that by the end of the year there wont be a hospital in the UK supplying formula!