Ive seen them in the mirror! Otherwise id have no idea they were there. My midwife goes to my doctors surgery, the surestart and the health clinic. She only runs the antenatal at the doctors and surestart though. I refused to go to surestart because i went there for my last pregnancy and i had nothing but trouble with them and i didnt feel treated fairly. Plus the other midwife i saw there was useless! Its all one on one with my midwife unless i want to take someone with me which i like because some questions you dont want to ask in front of a room of people!