February mummies 2011 <3

[Jembug]

Glad your pregnancy is going well you will have to tell us what you think of the nub. You guessed mine was a girl and you was right.

I left Demi's nappy off the other week and she kept saying 'pooh' and I was encouraging her to sit on the potty. In the end she did some rabbit droppings on the floor and it traumatised her! But yesterday we sat on the toilet with out child seat (Isla is a great help in encouraging her)

Hopefully your immune system will improve. I had vomiting bug twice when pregnant with Demi and the flu, yet perfectly fine with Ruby. Strange really.

Look forward to your lovely news on Weds, hope Lennie is doing ok xxx

 

[Jembug]

Hope your scan went ok Rach xxx

 

[Chilly Willy]

Devins doin poo poos on the toilet daily now but not unprompted so I think we have a way to go yet but he's delighted with himself! Too cute! I'm thinkin ill take a week off during the Summer and give it a proper go!!

 

[Jembug]

Well done Devin
Demi is now sitting on the toilet but not doing anything... But she is very impressed about sitting on there x

 

[Josiejo]

Hello everyone. I've started Lily with her nappy off this week, but she really holds on to her wee. She went 5 hours without doing one, and her little tummy was swollen. In the end she was getting distressed, so I put a nappy on and she did the biggest wee ever. At least I know that she has bladder control though. I was putting little knickers on her so she could play in the garden and they kept creeping up her bottom - she didn't like that much lol. She is the funniest little girl though and makes me laugh every day. Hope everyone is ok x

 

[rachael872211]

Hi ya,

Joise that did make me laugh about Lily's little knickers! It always happens with me.

Scan went well! Now I know what nub theory is I was having a good look while she was doing the scan and I do think girl! I'm convinced. I do have moments of doubt when Jay gets excited because he wants a girl. So I would feel really bad if I was wrong! Scan put me a couple of days earlier so baby is now due 6th November. I'm feeling so much better now too. No nausea and enjoying food again.

I thought I would try potty training Lennie this week as I have 5 clear days to try. I actually now don't think he is ready. lol.

He sat on potty first thing for 5 minutes and got off. I assumed he really didnt want to go. A minute later he pee'd on the floor! Tried again 15 minutes later and nothing. Tried 15 minutes after that and just before I was going to put him on he pee'd on the floor. Agaist the sofa actually.
Then he asked for a drink and I left him to it and then he came back in living room bringing a trail of poo! Normally he can poo easily when I put him on potty and considering he was on the potty 10 minutes before he must have needed to go then but didnt? After that he didnt like to sit on it and would just winge. Was I too keen? I'm thinking it was too soon and I don't want to put him off and make him hate the potty :-S
I ask him what he has done in his nappy and he normally tells me poo poo when its always wee! But he did tell me yesterday he had done a wee wee when I asked him. Also last night he kept saying poo poo which I thought he was just saying because its a fairly new word with him and he had done a poo a couple of hours earlier (he is normally once a day) so didnt think anything into it. Then he went to bed and when I checked him later he had done a poo in his nappy so I am not sure if he was telling me thats whats he needed? I'm so confused. After this morning I didnt think he was ready....but it's not going to be easy is it? I don't know if I am giving up because of him or me? I was thinking of trying again in a month. Sorry I have gone on so much about it!

Anyway I have my VBAC appointment this week and I am now in two minds whether to have a section. Basically I am worried I have somehow caused Lennie's development delays because I gave birth to him naturally. I know I was pushing a couple of hours and I worry thats why. I want to ask Lennie's paedatrician if that could be a reason for his delays but the appointment isnt until July so I am going to go to the appointment not knowing what I am doing.
I don't want a repeat section because its going to be so hard with a newborn and Lennie following that! But I really am struggling with the guilt that its my fault.

Lennie had a development assessment again from the health visitor a couple of weeks ago and he basically scored 0 in more things 0-5 meant delays 5-10 was need work and 10-15 was ok I think. He scored 3 in social communication but still delayed. I think it means he has global development delay now
Anyway she is now going to refer him to a specialist Health Visitor who is experienced in Development delays. She said they will do more detailed tests and possibly blood tests. She said there may still be no reason for any of it but the extra tests will rule things out.

 

[Chilly Willy]

Awww Rach. You poor thing struggling with that guilt that I'm sure is COMPLETELY unfounded. Even if there was an issue during Lennies birth it STILL wouldn't be your fault - you should be proud that you were able push him out at all!!! Us Mummies really do beat ourselves up unnecessarily. Ur a fab Mum who adores her happy lil boy. Try not to stress and take away from the joy of this pregnancy honey.

Toilet training sounds hilarious! I still haven't taken the plunge..... I guess the time is coming when I'll just have to bite the bullet and whip that nappy off! I have July sometime in my head so we'll see! I imagine we'll have a few stints of poo trailing along behind!!!

 

[wiiwidow]

Aww Rach, it's just one of those things you know....I'm sure it's not because you pushed him out. But even if it was it's not YOU'RE fault! You know anyone could say that, I was pushing with Oscar for ages and then had forceps and if he had problems now I could be saying the same thing, but he hasn't. I think it's easy to try and find things to blame, and the easiest of all is yourself and the decisions that you make. But it won't help anyone to think like that. That said, if you think it's less stressful etc to have a c section then have it. In all likelihood the VBAC would be absolutely fine, but if you're going to worry then go with the one with least worry.
Chilly, I'm the same I've not started potty training, Oscar has done one or two wees on the potty, but now has zero interest and is not ticking off many things on the "list" so I'm leaving it til Summer too. I think I have August in my head, but you know if it doesn't work, we'll wait until Autumn. Who cares....I've got a lot on at the moment, what with starting a new job, looking for a house to buy, planning a wedding and a 2 year old with the terrible 2s.
Talking of which, my boy has gone from being a lovely lovely little thing, to an aggressive ball of testosterone! Phew...didn't see that coming. He is HARD work.

 

[wiiwidow]

Josie, I meant to say if Lily is holding her wee, it might be worth waiting a while, apparently they can get really bad UTIs from doing this, and although physically she's ready, psychologically she's not. There's no huge rush. xx

 

[Josiejo]

Yeah, given up. Too hard, and it's too cold at the moment. I'll wait until it's consistently warm and then she can just run around outside with no nappy on.

 

[winegums]

Hi ya,

Joise that did make me laugh about Lily's little knickers! It always happens with me.

Scan went well! Now I know what nub theory is I was having a good look while she was doing the scan and I do think girl! I'm convinced. I do have moments of doubt when Jay gets excited because he wants a girl. So I would feel really bad if I was wrong! Scan put me a couple of days earlier so baby is now due 6th November. I'm feeling so much better now too. No nausea and enjoying food again.

I thought I would try potty training Lennie this week as I have 5 clear days to try. I actually now don't think he is ready. lol.

He sat on potty first thing for 5 minutes and got off. I assumed he really didnt want to go. A minute later he pee'd on the floor! Tried again 15 minutes later and nothing. Tried 15 minutes after that and just before I was going to put him on he pee'd on the floor. Agaist the sofa actually.
Then he asked for a drink and I left him to it and then he came back in living room bringing a trail of poo! Normally he can poo easily when I put him on potty and considering he was on the potty 10 minutes before he must have needed to go then but didnt? After that he didnt like to sit on it and would just winge. Was I too keen? I'm thinking it was too soon and I don't want to put him off and make him hate the potty :-S
I ask him what he has done in his nappy and he normally tells me poo poo when its always wee! But he did tell me yesterday he had done a wee wee when I asked him. Also last night he kept saying poo poo which I thought he was just saying because its a fairly new word with him and he had done a poo a couple of hours earlier (he is normally once a day) so didnt think anything into it. Then he went to bed and when I checked him later he had done a poo in his nappy so I am not sure if he was telling me thats whats he needed? I'm so confused. After this morning I didnt think he was ready....but it's not going to be easy is it? I don't know if I am giving up because of him or me? I was thinking of trying again in a month. Sorry I have gone on so much about it!

Anyway I have my VBAC appointment this week and I am now in two minds whether to have a section. Basically I am worried I have somehow caused Lennie's development delays because I gave birth to him naturally. I know I was pushing a couple of hours and I worry thats why. I want to ask Lennie's paedatrician if that could be a reason for his delays but the appointment isnt until July so I am going to go to the appointment not knowing what I am doing.
I don't want a repeat section because its going to be so hard with a newborn and Lennie following that! But I really am struggling with the guilt that its my fault.

Lennie had a development assessment again from the health visitor a couple of weeks ago and he basically scored 0 in more things 0-5 meant delays 5-10 was need work and 10-15 was ok I think. He scored 3 in social communication but still delayed. I think it means he has global development delay now
Anyway she is now going to refer him to a specialist Health Visitor who is experienced in Development delays. She said they will do more detailed tests and possibly blood tests. She said there may still be no reason for any of it but the extra tests will rule things out.

Hey hun, how is Lennie doing with his development now? What sort of things is he delayed with? Can he walk? Respond to you? Point? Say single words?

As for your last birth, was there anything in particular about the birth you feel may have contributed? Usually things like hypoxia at birth can cause developmental issues... so things like if his heartrate was really low for an extended period - which you'd know about as they'd be rushing for an instrumental or emergency ceserean if that was the case. Maybe get a copy of your notes to have a look through with a HCP they might be able to pinpoint any reasons surrounding the birth that contributed.

Having said that, I was with a lady the other day who was pushing for eight (yes, 8!) hours. Hospital record. 2 hours is average for a first time birth, might be a bit longer than expected for a subsequent birth - but did you have your first by section without getting to 2nd stage? Because if so then it's the same as a first time birth in terms of pushing length. After a woman is fully dilated we usually leave 1 hour for baby to descend fully and be 'ready' then two hours active pushing if the heartrate is fine, before we start to worry.

Also don't forget each birth is different, just as each baby is different. I've met women with 8 children and each birth has been completely different.

BTW I'm not trying to suggest a VBAC is better than a c-section just giving some perspective. I take it you will go to a VBAC clinic or have an appointment with a consultant to discuss it anyway? Hopefully they will be able to help with your decisions!

Congrats the scan went well

 

[winegums]

p.s. joshua isn't anywhere near potty training yet. He will sit on the toilet and do a wee sometimes which is awesome, but he will never poo on the toilet. and often doesn't wee in it either.. he's very stubborn - will only do it when the mood takes his fancy! LOL

 

[Chilly Willy]

I Love when I see a new post in my subscribed threads list from someone in this thread!!! winegums!!!

 

[Jembug]

Hi ladies, how are you all?

Rachel I'm sure your birth has nothing to do with Lennies developmental delays.
Wine has some fab advice!

Wine how are you? How's the midwifery going?

Did I mention about Demi passing out on me?
In brief, if she has a paddy/hurts herself- she cries and forgets to take breath and goes blur and passes out. Happened now and again but the other week she did it four times in five days!!!! So I took her to the doctors and he ruled out a heart murmer, thank goodness.
We wanted to see us in two weeks to see how she is doing and she hasn't had one since! Phew the little minx.
Demi has been out on this Earth to test me!!!! Lol

Hi Chilly, how are you and Devin xx

 

[wiiwidow]

Jem I've heard of quite a few toddlers doing this! Do some searching on here and you might find some tips and suggestions. Can't imagine how stressful it is though xx

 

[winegums]

Eek that must be really scary Jem, I have read quite a few people saying similar on the toddler boards etc. I think it's the frustrations of being a toddler and when they hold their breath that much they realise they get a reaction so it's showing you they mean business when they can't express it so well in words? if that makes sense. Hopefully it will pass and she will stop doing it, but at least they are looking into it!

 

[Jembug]

Hi ladies, yea I've heard about it too, which was why I didn't rush to the docs. Although I've read it's involuntary and I defo think its the case with Demi at the min. But two and a half weeks without one so hopefully that's it?
I'm starting Demi at pre school in September so I guess I will have to warn them.

Been in the garden today, it's nice that I can relax a lot knowing that Demi is completely confident in the garden -unlike last year. My two girlies play love,y together most if the time
Next year I will be chasing Ruby all about the garden incase she falls over.

Wine I see you have a wtt ticker... You still want baby number three? I feel very sad I will not have anymore babies. Even more so that Ruby is in her own room in her cot- seems like yesterday I was moving Demi in there! Xx

 

[winegums]

I Love when I see a new post in my subscribed threads list from someone in this thread!!! winegums!!!

Me too, have been sooo busy recently haven't logged on in a while but it's lovely... I hope we keep updating in the future

 

[winegums]

Wine I see you have a wtt ticker... You still want baby number three? I feel very sad I will not have anymore babies. Even more so that Ruby is in her own room in her cot- seems like yesterday I was moving Demi in there! Xx

Yep I'm so broody! But cannot even think about it properly until I qualify and get a job . Definitely makes it worse being with pregnant women and gorgeous little newborns all the time lol xx

 

[Jembug]

Can you believe it was over three years ago we was expecting out love bugs!!! Crazy! X