General chatter while we wait (and commentary on the "pull out method")

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Sorry to post and run lost prep again today.

Gyn said the stuff I’m passing just looks like uterine lining. She did ask if there was any chance I was pregnant/if I wanted to come in for a blood test, but I told her my home tests are negative and my bbt is below cover now so I’m not really worried about that.
 
Dobs :hugs: I’m sorry you’ve been having a crappy time. Obvi not a doctor but I’d say if you never had clots like that before plus the longer LP, it’s definitely a possibility that you had a chemical. Having an egg fertilize and never implant or start to but fail is extremely common, but it’s impossible to know how common it really is because most people don’t know since they get their period around the same time as usual, maybe just a little heavier. Most people don’t track their cycles like we do. My sister won’t even download an app to track her period, she generally knows when to expect it because it’s regular so she doesn’t care. Note my unamusement considering I’m now on CD31 with no O and no signs that it’s ever going to come.

Since I’ve only ever been a student and never a teacher, all those things that are awful for a teacher to experience are honestly pretty funny to a student (I’m sorry, don’t hurt me). I can’t tell you how many times I’ve been tempted to have a “talk” with some kids that have messed with my little sister, especially the boy who sexually harassed her and is still sexually harassing other girls by demanding nudes and threatening them etc. However, I’m an adult, and he is a child, and I would like to not go to jail. So unfortunately it has to be dealt with through administration. My sister and her friends are going to speak to the principal about it, I believe. Or the vice principals. Whoever does the discipline stuff. Anyway, I would imagine all this drama has caused a lot of paperwork for you, and I’m sorry you’re dealing with all that. Fights weren’t very common at my school so when one happened, everyone would be talking about it for a week. I don’t know how common they are where you work.

Pretty any update on the hcg level?

Winter I definitely want to be the nurse that people remember fondly. Unfortunately we don’t usually have time to talk with our patients nearly as much as we’d like to, we have too many things going on. I really wish we had safe nurse to patient ratios, the National Nurses United (the largest American nurse’s union) recently released a proposal for federal safe staffing limits and if it were to be followed I’d only have to take 3 patients… as it is, I’m being trained to take 5-6. I attached their proposal below.
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Unfortunately, I highly doubt that this kind of proposal would pass. They’d rather treat nurses like crap and not have to hire more nurses (which requires treating them better so they’ll apply in the first place) than keep their patients safe. Even at non-profit hospitals, they have to keep the bottom line their priority because they need to keep the hospital open. If we can’t take as many patients, they’ll need to hire more nurses and/or not admit as many patients. I’m on a telemetry floor and I’d be fine with 4 patients rather than 3. I just think 5+ is way too many.
ANYWAY, hopping off my soapbox lol.

AFM Re: my long cycle, I know it can happen and the first year or two off birth control can be wonky but I’m still very unamused. I ordered this Chinese medicine period elixir that you add to tea or whatever liquid cuz I saw ads for it everywhere and it has you take a quiz to diagnose you in Chinese medicine terms and give you a formula based on that, it’s an herbal treatment, no hormones or anything. Still waiting on getting that, but it has vitex in it and a bunch of other ingredients that can help regulate periods as well as reduce PMS symptoms. I’ll let you guys know if it makes a difference, Buzzfeed had one of their writers with endometriosis test it and she said it worked well for her so I’m cautiously optimistic. Honestly I really wish I could just induce a period but the only way to do that if you aren’t close to getting it anyway is by using hormonal birth control and I don’t want to screw with my system any more than I already have. So everyone please pray for me that I will ovulate soon, I’ve taken 20+ ovulation tests this cycle ugggh such a waste, plus I’m not back on safe days until I ovulate so it’s been 20+ days of using the diaphragm ugh.
 
Pretty so sweet! Love the little bean :)

Shae, oh yeah it would be a dream to have those ratios. On nights, we did sometimes have 7 neuro patients. We didn't have many "walkie-talkie" patients so very frustrating with time management. I will say hoke health is where I found I established better relations with people and is often why I love home health.

Sorry for no end in sight for your cycle. That happened to me early on in my ttc#1 journey when under a ton of stress. My gyn prescribed progesterone to induce bleeding. My cycles starting coming back more regular after that (it took me awhile to fully regulate after coming off bcp).

Dobby that sounds awful. I know you weren't in the mood for condolences but that sounds like a shifty week. :hugs: it sounds like probable chemical to me. :hugs:


AFM super busy. Step dad is doing much better he went to SNF for rehab Wednesday night and is being discharge home in a few hours. He's coming to visit tomorrow as he's been going on about wanting to see his grandbabies.

Work has been stressful 2 of the 5 agencies have underwent survey and highly suspect 2 more will be done next week. It is hard seeing good people have poor documentation. And very time consuming reviewing all the notes, assessments, etc. It sounds like the surveys have went okay though. They are finishing up one today.

Anyways, off to eat lunch and do more work. Just wanted to quickly pop in :)
 
Sorry to read and run. Long shit day. At least next week should be back to semi normal. Feeling run down but bright side got my covid booster and flu shot today. A got his flu shot as well.

just hopped in to say congrats on the scan! Hi little bean!!!!
 
shae - Keeping my FX for your O, that your cycle ends soon, and that your tea gets delivered ASAP and works well. And sorry that your work is trying to give you too many patients at a time. As it stands, are you doing just general nursing stuff? And you eventually wanted to end up in L&D?

Flueky - Glad your stepdad is doing better. And hoping that the rest of the surveys go smoothly.

Dobby - Sorry that this week has been something of a shit show. Hopefully you have a nice, restful weekend and a much better week. Ooo, flu shots. I forgot that it's time to get those again. Guess I'll ask my Dr about making appts for the boys and me when I see her next week.

AFM, so, yup, just one little bean in there. I'm a little surprised that the tech told me what it was measuring at. Usually they'll just tell you the heart rate and give you a pick. I've always had to wait for my Dr to give me any other info once they get the report. Either way, it's all good. Probably gonna leave my ticker as is for now. Maybe wait and see what it's measuring at for my next scan, around 12 weeks. If memory serves me, my MMC had a heart rate of 144 at 7 weeks. So, I'm a tiny bit worried even though google says 143 is perfectly fine for it's age. But whatever will be will be. In other news, I got a call from the daycare at like 3:30 saying Matthew had a cough and needed to be picked up. They also said he either needed to be Covid tested, get an alternative diagnoses from a Dr, or just stay home for 14 days. So, we got him tested right after picking him up. Hopefully we have the results by the end of the weekend.
 
I’m at 100.5. Slightly regretting my decision to yolo it with both immunizations :rofl: :cry: probably be Mia all weekend

pretty I think A’s heart rate was around that. I know it’s hard to not worry though hugs

everyone else I do love you but I feel like I got in a car wreck so I’m gonna give A my phone and try to close my eyes
 
Dobby do sorry dear. I hope you feel better soon.

Pretty, I feel like dd3's heart rate was a bit lower than dd1 and dd2. I'll see if I can find out what it was. I don't think 143 is bad but I understand why you would be concerned. Can't wait you to reach 2nd tri. Also, we're you doing a sneak peak again?
 
Pretty sorry Matthew has to get tested. Kids get so many little coughs so it must be super frustrating to test for COVID every time.

Dobs sorry you’re feeling crappy <3

AFM that herbal treatment came in the mail yesterday right after I posted, it was super fast. It smells kinda weird but I put it in strong flavored tea and I couldn’t taste it so it’s fine with me.
 
Dobby - Sorry that your shots are hitting you so hard. FX you feel better ASAP.

Flueky - Ya, I'm gonna do a SneakPeek again. I already have the kit and I think you can take it at 7 weeks now, but I'm gonna wait til 2nd tri. As bad as it's sounds, I don't want to "waste" a test on a pregnancy that isn't viable.

shae - Thanks. It's that much harder cuz they don't make cough suppressant meds for kids that young. So, you just gotta keep them hydrated and wait it out. He tested negative though, so that's good. Yay for your herbal stuff arriving so quickly. FX it works well for you.

AFM, we did an early Thanksgiving with my mom today. Just a simple turkey dinner cuz she really likes turkey and there's only a couple times a year that we eat it. Plus, we already have plans to see SO's mom's side next weekend and 2 turkey dinners in one weekend is too much. lol
 
Pretty sorry Matthew is sick but glad it's not covid. I hope he feels better soon and Alex doesn't catch it. I think that's the worst with multiple kids, if one gets sick they all get sick. Maybe when they are older they will understand a but more to stay away from each other some when sick.
 
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I’M FINALLY OVULATING!!! I’ve been using that herbal treatment for 5 days and got my LH surge this morning!
 
Woah, Shae... I'm surprised that they expect you to take so many patients. Especially as a new nurse. This really doesn't bode well for the whole healthcare industry. I imagine that a lot of nurses burnt out over the past year :( I can understand feeling taken for granted! How have your time management efforts been going? And yay!! for ovulating!!

Awwww, Pretty :baby: love to see that little baby! Glad that all is going well. My LO had a HB in the 130-140s the whole time. He is and was totally fine! Totally drama free pregnancy and babyhood so far. He also has a super laid back personality- maybe the HR was a clue there?!

Flueky- so glad to hear that your Step Dad is doing better. Ugh- stressful events are all the worse because of covid. Hope he enjoyed your visit :) Will he get to go home soon? Or is he looking at some reharehab before anything like that?


Dobby- Hope the covid booster side effects were shortlived! and hope things at work have improved. Hats off to you for being a teacher, too! I'm curious do you see any of the covid relief money at work at your school? just curious if you have seen any improvement for teachers or students from all of that money?

AFM- had my follow up appt. All seemingly is fine with me. Also got the results of the genetic testing. You were right, Pretty- the baby had an extra copy of one gene and was "incompatible with life". Also found out he was a boy. I'm a bit taken aback, as I really didnt think that the baby would be the issue (was sure that I was). I don't know... I guess I got old all of a sudden. The Dr was very encouraging to just try again, but that seems scary after two bad experiences in a row. She said that I'm " higher risk for all genetic issues" due to age, but "low risk overall". So she was pretty much like "see you back pregnant again in a couple of months!" I'm glad I did the genetic testing, but it is also just strange to know. It is a relief in some ways that he was never a viable baby, but also strange to know the gender and all of that. Half makes it all less real, half makes it much more real. If you know what I mean....
 
shae - Yay for O! :) So, is this tea something that you'll take during every cycle, or just for emergency situations like this?

Winter - I feel like having more info is better than less. As hard as it can be to know the gender (and spend a bunch of time thinking what if), at least you also know that there's nothing you could have done. My mom had an ectopic pregnancy at 32 and a standard MC at 35, but then went on to have me at 37 and my sister at 42. "Older" woman have perfectly healthy babies all the time, so don't be scared to try again.

Hope everyone else is doing well.

AFM, had a Dr appt today. Found out that she never sent a req for my hcg level, so I guess I'll never know. But seeing a live baby on the scan is proof enough. lol. Also got to see the official scan report. The expert that looked over the pics concurred that I was measuring 2 days behind where I should have been. But then the Dr said they currently had my EDD 3 days sooner (the 14th instead of the 17th). So, tell me how that math works out. The Dr couldn't give me an answer and said babies don't care about EDDs; they come when they want to. Like, ya, I'm aware, but I need to know for my ticker. lol. Whatever, I'll just leave it as is for now and see what I'm measuring at for my 12 week scan. Either way, less than 200 days now. I tried my doppler a couple times, but not finding anything so far. Hopefully soon. FX.
 
Winterbub I'm glad you got some answers and some relief. I agree with Pretty, I prefer more information than less. I hope that you get your rainbow baby soon.

Yes he's home and doing outpatient therapy 2x week. He felt to a SNF for 1.5 days prior but he was doing too well to stay much longer.

Pretty, ah well stinks about the hcg but definitely seeing a baby on ultrasound is the best :) as far as dating, edd, I believe as long as it was within 5 days or so they just went with your EDd based off LMP. With S I measured 2 or 3 days behind as I Od on CD18 but they keep my EDD as it was by LMP. I didn't O until CD 21 or 22 with V so my EDD was changed based on her scan measurements. E was definitely based on her scan measurements as I Od on CD 27 or 28. Funny enough, all born before their due date.


Anyways back to work I go, having a survey for another office this morning. Have a great day everyone
 
Thank you, ladies. I guess you're right that more knowledge is better. I had an intake appt for the fertility specialist, and he had wanted to do a whole work up. I guess for a start that's not necessary. Just have to decide whether it is worth asking him about improving egg quality etc. i liked him, but his office seemed much like a business than a dr. And Pretty- thank you for sharing your mother's story. That's really reassuring! i would really like to have 2 more if things work out, but I guess we will just have to cross each bridge as we get to it and reassess things as we go. Parenthood has a way of teaching you how little you actually can control... I really appreciate the support. :hugs:

I wouldn't worry about a day or two forward or behind, Pretty. Just split the difference and go for either the middle of the two dates the scan/dr mentioned or just use LMP for your ticker? although I get that it is annoying not to get a definitive date. Sounds crazy when you say that it is already under 200 days!!! so about a month before you try the sneak peek for gender? and I agree not to worry about the HCG- I believe that all becomes moot once they do a scan, as that is much more accurate. Although, again, I get it is annoying to go and do the test and never get a result back.

Sounds like your Step Dad is doing really well, Flueky! That's great to hear. Great to hear that he is back at home :) Good luck with today's survey! :)
 
Winter I’m sorry to hear about the genetic testing, but I’m glad you know now that it wasn’t you, you did nothing wrong and your body worked as it was supposed to. My grandmother had my father, her only child, when she was 43. My other grandmother started having kids at 19-20ish, had my mom when she was 40 and her last child at 41. You’re not too old.

Re: staffing, I don’t think it’s new for nurses to be expected to have 5-6 patients. However, staffing ratios still depend on the unit type even without them being laws. ICU nurses have 1-3 patients depending on how critical they are, labor and delivery nurses have 1-2 laboring moms, postpartum nurses have like 4 couplets, etc. Oh also my time management is improving, I’m taking 4-5 patients now.


Pretty agh sorry they didn’t do the hcg test but like you said, a scan with a heartbeat is proof enough. Regarding the due date, I personally think that unless it’s more than a few days difference, go with your O date to determine the official due date. If someone doesn’t know their O date and their cycles are regular but longer/shorter than 28 days, they should be able to estimate their O date by subtracting 14 days from their usual cycle length. If they have irregular cycles and don’t know their O date, best to just go with what the doc says.

Re: the tea, it’s supposed to be daily for irregular cycles and just the last 7 days of the cycle for regular cycles (aka week before your period). Considering taking it mid-cycle may have helped (or it was coincidence) I think I’ll just take it daily.

Flueks what do you mean by survey for another office?
 
Sahe we have 3 physical HH offices and 2 for hospice. So we had a survey at 1 hospice and 1 health last week and again this week. So next week we will have our last one. They have a surveyor review our documentation and go to patient's homes to watch our clinician's perform skills.


I hadn't mentioned, don't think I have at least, I've been having heart palpitations. Several each day except I didn't really notice them Tuesday. I guess I need to call my Dr and set up an appt. They seem to be related to stress, but still worth checking out I suppose since it's been happening for nearly 2 weeks.
 
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