General chatter while we wait (and commentary on the "pull out method")

Gigs- I read that like 50% of pregnancies fail before they even implant! So all those months I'm sure we had fertilized eggs that just failed to implant or implanted for a few hours only! It's a miracle! It's just pure good luck, perfect timing and optimal conditions.

I really feel like last cycle I had something like that happen cause I felt implantation like cramps and started spotting 5 days before AF was due.

Now you had your pity party, shake it off and get up again! You have a goal in mind and you'll make it happen!
 
Sorry Ive been Mia today. My
Baby brother and his wife had their baby today. It was a bit intense. He was sunny side up and she tore pretty bad when he finally came out. And they had to use the forceps to get him. He was too far into the birth canal to do a c-section. I didn't get to hold him but i will go back to the hospital tomorrow to get my baby fix... Oh and my husbands sister is pregnant right now and she's in L&D with contractions but she's only 35 weeks. Her baby shower is supposed to be Saturday! I hope they get the contractions stopped...

Anyway it's been an exciting night and I am worn out. DD still doesn't feel great her cough Is getting bad so I am glad it's a 3 day weekend.

It does suck the pregnancy is so hard to achieve and really when you think about it so many things have to line up just so in order to make it work. We will all get there. The odds are in our favor to get pregnant eventually but it takes its toll on us emotionally for sure. Ok I'm done im rambling lol
 
yea I've had insomnia for like 20+yrs...ANY little sound and I am wide awake for hours...so nothing helps as far as natural remedies, soothing sound, reading, boring programs etc. I eventually fall asleep, but ANY noise ( car passing, neighbors dog, my son gaming after midnight) and I am wide awake.
Sleep meds just help me get back to sleep. Trust me it sucks to be exhausted and not be able to sleep...

Gigs you know I am the link queen lol. I have several that breakdown the hours of O to fert to implant.
There is def a holding time in the tube for 30-33 hrs, and the egg can NOT attach to the wall before this period passes. That's why I don't put thought into "implant" dips before 6dpo....scientifically, it's not really possible. The egg has to divide a certain amt AND the zona pellucida (outer shell) has to thin in order for implant to occur.
Also Campn is right as well about 50+% of pregnancies failing during or just before implant.
We only seem "broken" because these new more sensitive tests let us know earlier than ever that an egg fertilized....doesn't mean it will make it thru implant however ( which takes a couple weeks, not a single day).
https://www.glowm.com/section_view/heading/Egg Transport and Fertilization/item/316
https://www.infertile.com/get-pregnant-ch-1-natural-pregnancy/
https://www.ucsfhealth.org/education/conception_how_it_works/
 
Tex, wow what a thrilling day? And what's the 3 day weekend for? Am i forgetting a holiday?

Campn, i think my c/p was a case of that too, since i only had the one faint line (fainter that night, gone the next morning), like it started to implant but failed. Guess we'll never really know :/

So...
I went back in this thread and found that i was describing residual o pain and a soft, open cervix on the 4th...so it's possible i'm only 10dpo today...

I'm not testing anymore though. If af doesn't arrive this weekend i will test monday.

Ooooh i'm so hoping this turns around! False hope partially restored!
 
It's amazing any of us made it! Definitely survival of the fittest! I don't think your body lets any fertilized egg implant too, it has to pass tests and prove its superiority. That's why the vagina makes it so hard on the sperm to make it there, it wants the best one.

Although in my life I've met people how I thought to myself "how the heck did they make it to that egg!?" Again, pure dumb luck!

Gigs, if you're 10 DPO then it's DEF still very early in the game hun!
 
It's Martin Luther kings birthday Monday! So 3 day weekend!!

I have tons of cm today (creamy) and cervix seems to be getting a little higher. Hopefully I actually ov this month and don't just Gear up to.
 
OMG we may be able to try and catch next months egg already! Aim for the February egg and not the March one as I thought this whole time!!

DH is confirming it and I'll let you know tomorrow, so hopeful today :) Our new property has a cottage (beside the main house) on it and the tenant is leaving it at the end of the month. Since we already own the property but seller isn't leaving it until March 1st the realtor suggested that we ask the seller if we could occupy the cottage until then.

CB: happy to hear your scan went well :)

Off to read back a few pages now

Ooooh def keep us posted Pacific!! Exciting eeee!! How lovely though, new Cottage & new pg, lovely :hugs:
 
Yay cb! Can't wait to oogle your scan and have a guess at the gender.

Love storage wars...i forgot about that show. I'll have to see if it's on netflix

Tbh, Storage wars is slightly more tolerable than what he sometimes watches Operation Repo' what a load of shit that is & the fights are so fake!! Tv man crap lol!!

Omg yes im dying to gender guess with the Nub theory, Rileys was wuite obvious at 12wks he had a winkle lol
 
Thanks mrs, since i don't work (and i can't remember dates worth a hoot) i totally forgot! Plus hubs is a mechanic so he doesn't get all the federal holidays off. He'll be at work monday :(

When are you expecting o?

Lol campn! Haha i'm pretty mean in my own head...i meet rude ugly (and i mean ugly on the inside) bitches with kids and i'm thinking, "who would want to have sex with that?!".

Had some jiggy time with hubs this morning and it had a mild burning, which is what i get close to af :( so i'm really thinking she'll be here any time today, or this weekend. Blah. Oh well...where's the reset button?
 
Hi ladies...
Claire have you tried any of the wacky gender tests on line?
I know there is one with urine and bleach, and another with urine and baking soda or something??
There's alot of vids of gender tests on YouTube.
Gigs I hope you are wrong about the witch! But you can try the bleach preg test too lol. I think lots of foam is positive, and little or none is neg??
 
Ummm...

So.

You know I got AF yesterday? Well, it was basically a single smear of toilet paper of brownish blood on the toilet paper when I wiped, so a put a pad on, and carried on with my day. There has been NOTHING since, which is really not normal for me. This AF seemed to come a bit earlier than I expected also, although I haven't been tracking my cycles, so I could easily be wrong.

Still no sign of AF this morning. It's wierd.

???????

I am going to resort to NOT peeing on a stick for a few more days. I was expecting my period somewhere around the Monday/Tuesday mark, and if I don't have any more bleeding, or have this stop and start type of thing going on, I'll test. This is weird for me, though, and if I'm not pregnant, I'm worried something else is going on. I did have this weird kind of shooting pain in my right ovary yesterday, which I do tend to get in place of actual menstrual cramps on the first day of a typical AF...but the light blood smear, and then absence of blood is just strange for me. My first day of AF is light to medium flow, but there's usually some continuity with it...it never just stops like that, for more than 24 hours.

Hmmm.
 
Wow wookie that is weird... I hope you get some answers. Its just nice to know either way.

Giggle- maybe you are right and are only like 10dpo. Hopefully that is true and that's why you got bfn. Fingers crossed

Afm- temp still up so I'm confident I ovulated. So now I just wait and see if we were successful or not. But really I have already won since it looks like this cycle won't end up being 65 days long. And actually even though it says I Od on cd 12 I had 2 days of super light red bleeding before i marked cd 1. So technically I could have ovulated on cd14 if I had counted the first day of red as day one. I just wasnt sure since it wasn't very heavy. It doesn't really matter much but if that is the case then that means I will Have a 28 day cycle.

I'm going back to the hospital today to get some new baby cuddles. I didn't get to hold him last night so I will make sure I get to today!
My other sister in law got sent home but she may not be able to come to her baby shower since Her hospital is 3 hours away and she may need to stay close. So now I have cakes and cookies that i ordered that I have to go get saturday and may not even have a shower😩
 
Wookie, I have had that happen too.. AF never used to spot, she'd always show up and "flo". Only in the last few months my body has been spotting, then nothing for 24hrs, then more spotting and nothing for 24hours. Then AF.
Keepig my fingers crossed this is implanting for you!!


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So every morning I go out to feed the ducks with the dog. In the dark I saw all the ducks huddled into one corner piling on top of each other. As I am opening the door into the run, I see one shoot straight up, about 4 feet. My ducks are way too fat for that height...
I dig through my pockets fishing for my cell phone and something shoots up again. WTF!

Here is what I discovered:
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Been loosing ducks to him all winter....

So I tried to shoo him out but he kept flying into the net that covers the run (half of the run is netted, the rest as tons of string run across). So I changed the tactic in trying to pick him up. I could get within a foot of him.

Change of tactic again: run the dog inside and grab a thick cloth. Found a worn sweater real quick and went back to the duck run. After 3 attempts I was finally able to pick him in a bit of my sweater. After a quick thought I decided to put him into a dog kennel instead of releasing. If I had just released him right there he'd be having another duck for dinner.

Fish and Wildlife is supposed to come out and get him sometime today. :happydance::happydance: Hopefully no more dead ducks.

Apparently I impressed the fish and wildlife guy since I caught an owl with my own hands. (yes I wore thick leather gloves). I just called them again and spoke to a different lady. As soon as I mentioned "owl" she got all giddy and excited. Am I the talk of their office??

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In other good news, DH talked to the seller. She has not been able to find herself a new place. DH suggested she could move into the cottage and we go into the house. So that is happening in the next 2 weeks I think. We'll be reunited in ~3 1/2 weeks:happydance::happydance::happydance::happydance:
 
Wookie, that is an interesting turn of events...i'm excited to see what happens!

Tex, yay for a normal cycle!

PL...WOW. I was like, oh no, she had to kill and owl lol! I'm glad this happened to you first...i don't know what i would have done. Now i know! Well, kind of...i don't have a cage :-k

And fantastic news about the house and your separation being shortened!!! That's so great, i can't wait to see pictures and get you back on the ttc bus!

Afm...mild af cramps. Still bankin' on her showing up but i'm going to have to look into that bleach thing you mention J lmao
 
Giggle: legally we are not allowed to shoot owls here. Nor do I own a gun... He's pretty, I would have felt bad.
And a solid cardboard box would do as well ;) Tape it up good and watch those talons..

Getting really excited about the move now :happydance:
 
I am so excited for you!

I know we can't kill hawks but i'm not sure about owls...

I've seen a cat lurking around today. He's a mostly gray tabby with a white face and paws. I named him Prescott :haha:
 
So, in a moment of unbridled panic, I ended up calling my OB's nurse, who told me that I need to take a pregnancy test tomorrow morning. If that is negative, and I don't get my period within the next week, I am to retest. She did feel that perhaps my period could have begun, and then became delayed due to this stomach virus thing going around my family...I did wake up at 2:30 (after having the most weak and exhausting day EVER yesterday) a.m., with horrible diarrhea that went off and on until around 10 a.m. today. So, I suppose this could be the reason my period kind of started a bit, and then stopped?

I don't know. I'll test tomorrow a.m., and then wait and see what happens.
 
Oh wow Pacific what a gorgeous Owl but demon owl gor butchering your lil chicks/ducks!! Yay for rendezvous with hubs in couple of weeks & everything us starting to fall into place :)

J ive done a random gender quiz but all say 'could go either way' pah!! I msy seek some more though haha! Have you seen SO lately or any plans this wknd? ;)

Hope they not af cramps you having miss giggles :( stay away witchy witch!!!

Awww im such a Cat lover, we have 2 girls from the same litter, gray tabby sounds lovely :)

Wookie, Diarrhea has delayed my period before, i know this is a ttc thread but hope your period fors arrive as you are hoping.. Alsorts delay them!

Aww Texas enjoy new baby cuddle :hugs:
 
Unfortunately, there are af cramps. Bitch is here proving...

A. My symptoms mean jack shit
B. I really don't have a clue when I ovulated this cycle.

Going by LP, should have been the 2nd. I'll have to go back and read what symptoms I mentioned that day, but i know pain lingered into the 4th :shrug:

Oh, hi there cycle five. Can't say it's nice to see you...
 
Gig- sorry she's on her way in. Always is rough.

Pl- so excited for you!! That owl is so pretty. Glad he was caught safe.

Cb- any guy feelings on what you're having?

Afm- such a busy weekend planned and I'm so excited! I'm praying I ovulate this month and on time. Hubs is off Sunday and Monday. With cd 14 being Monday so.... Here's to hoping. Lol
With fitness I've lost about 5 pounds and I feel like I've lost some inches but I'll be measuring later.
 

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