Getting Fit Before Baby

Question, ff has been saying this for the past week. What does it mean?

Your chart data does not allow ovulation to be pinpointed to within a 24 hour timeframe.
Your temperature suggests, however, that ovulation may have occured between CD 19 and CD 34.
 
Urs- I think that means that there aren't enough sure signs of ovulation matching up in your chart to definitively say if or when you ovulated, so they're guessing. When I was charting, my temps looked like zig zag mountains they were so all over the place, which happens often with irregular or long cycles or pcos. FF tries to find an ovulation date for you since that's it's job...for me it moved it around many times and said I ovulated when I didn't sometimes. That's one of the perils of long or absent cycles, like it sounds like you have.
 
Thanks drjo! I was super confused by it but it makes sense now that you explained it.

Should I increase my metformin? My doctor is putting up a fit over it so I'm wondering if I should just increase it behind him with another doctor writing the prescriptions until I get a new one?
 
Urs, only use progesterone cream AFTER 100% confirmed ovulation. Progesterone supplements used prior to ovulation can prevent O.
Vitex on the other hand.... ? Maybe worth a try, idk.

My overweight, pcos bff had such success with cutting out carbs and sugar & healthy diet (I have posted about her before) in regulating her cycles after not having a period for 3 years.
 
Ok, lots of info from my appointment this morning. I went to see my gynaecologist to discuss surgery for endo, he specialises in endometriosis treatment and infertility.

* Surgery booked for 9 March. Dr will do a laparoscopy and remove all possible endo, and also do a hysteroscopy to view the inside of my uterus.
* He did an ultrasound today and confirmed that I definitely ovulated. A nice big corpus luteum is visible on my right ovary and my uterine lining is the perfect thickness (his word = "awesome"). Which still begs the question, why can't I get pregnant?
* Taking everything into account (hsg shows both tubes are fine, I ovulate every month, all hormones are normal, lining always looks good, DH's SA is great), dr says the 2 times where I got faint positives (even though one was after the 10 min mark) and then got AF, were most likely chem pregnancies. He wants me to do a beta next time it happens so that we can make sure. Due to the questions we have surrounding that, he ordered blood tests for blood clotting factors (6 vials!) to see if there's anything that might cause potential CPs or MCs.
* We discussed doing IVF in August. I inquired about June/July (winter school holidays in RSA) but dr said he doesn't do IVF during those 2 months because the success rates are lower due to the cold! Interesting!
* I don't have to be on the Pill next cycle if I don't want to since it's only 1 more cycle until surgery.
* Once the endometriosis had been successfully removed, my chances of falling pregnant will probably increase. There is still the question of egg quality but that can't be tested unless we do IVF.

I'm really scared (I have a PHOBIA of surgery and especially anaesthesia) but my dr is extremely intelligent and constantly goes out of his way to help me. He has tested SO many things in the time I've been there and seems to really care about fixing my problems and getting me pain-free and pregnant. I always feel he listens to me, takes me seriously and provides all the tests and procedures I insist on, and then some. So even though I always dread going to the dr, each appointment makes me feel slightly more positive about possibly having a chance to conceive one day.

Oh and he told me again not to put too much stock into temperature taking & worry about each single temp because so many factors influence a person's temperature. If the room temperature, blankets, time, person's health etc are not EXACTLY the same every morning then all those small variables could influence temp. Luckily my fertile signs are so obvious and OPKs work for me, I always know when I'm going to O!

How is everyone doing? What's news?? OMW I'm already going bonkers with this tww lol! :coffee:
 
That's awesome your doctor sounds amazing! Glad no pill and earlier surgery. Sounds all very promising.
 
Ursaula - No patient is ever forbidden from getting a second opinion from or talking to another doctor. Don't let them make you feel like you're not allowed to do that. It's YOUR health and YOUR body, and just because one guy is a doctor, doesn't mean he's the best, brightest, most correct, etc. If you feel he is not doing his job, or you think he's wrong, you most certainly can talk to another one about it! If the two doctors disagree, you can either choose to work with the one who agrees with you, or let them both give you as much info as possible and you decide from there. :hugs:

Fern - That all sounds promising! Good lining, definitely ovulating, no BCP this month. Sounds like things are really falling in to place for you! Sorry to hear that surgery is so terrifying for you - but it sounds like you're being so brave by planning to go ahead with it anyway!


AFM - I got what I think was a +OPK last night, or if it wasn't quite positive, the positive happened overnight. I've attached a picture, though it was taken after the test had dried so it's really hard to tell.

I'm going to go ahead and mark it as a +OPK in FF and then we'll see what my temps do for the next couple of days. Meanwhile, still BDing EOD just in case. I hope this isn't another extra long cycle!

Take a look at the pic. What do you gals think?

This morning's OPK was right back to being super faint, so I'm thinking my surge must have peaked a few hours after my test time, which was around 10pm.
 

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Fern: Thanks, I had no idea when to use it if I got it but that helps a lot. Do you use progesterone cream after ovulation up until af comes or how long do you use it for?

I've been trying to cut out carbs as much as possible but I've been having some slip ups. I see my dietitian this upcoming Tuesday so I'm super excited for that and we'll talk about the sugar idea - thank you! I do remember you talking about her previously.

I feel so positive for you right now! It's sounding really well and like things are really getting on the right track for you. Your doctor sounds so supportive! Don't worry too much about surgery, think of the now and be in the present moment, when it comes, it'll happen :)

IRYM: Thank you! You gave me enough courage to make a call (which I'll talk about a little further down).

From what I know about opks I'd say that is definitely almost positive. I would mark it on ff as a +opk too. Your poor hubby must be exhausted, haha!

AFM: You all have been very supportive to me about the doctor situation I have decided to see a doctor I KNOW will do stuff for me. He works at the same clinic and I've seen him a few times prior when my doctor was too booked up and I needed prescriptions refilled. I see him on February 1. During this appointment I will bring up my ultrasound results (they should be in by then) so I know what they found. I'll also bring up increasing my metformin dosage and begin the discussion of clomid. My s/o and I are so ready for this!! We can't wait!!
 
Yay I think it's falling into place for all of us! I've had more cm so I'm hoping I gear up to ovulate. But at the moment my car died and I'm waiting to be towed! Ugh.
 
Fern - im so glad you have a great plan!!

Ursula - as for progesterone you take it starting 3 days after ovulation. And for me I won't start AF while on it if I was getting negative tests at 12-14dpo I stopped using it and AF would start. Some people get AF even while on it. My doc has me on progesterone and I will be on it until 11-13 weeks depending on when I want to stop it
 
Ugh.....that moment when yet another member of our fire dept announces his girl friend, whose 42 is pregnant. Due in July. This guy is a slut, cheats on her constantly, yet she knows & stays with him & ends up pregnant! *smh*
In other news, we are having a freaking blizzard, I've lost my motivation, yet again. Really TIRED of all things TTC related. Sorry in a mood today.....crappy snow!
 
Cupcake- I'm sorry it's so hard to be happy when someone else is pregnant especially someone who is in a situation like that. I know exactly how you feel. It's right up there with someone telling you to "relax" or "your stress Jane helping you" it makes me loose it! Keeping you in my thoughts today.
Are you on the east coast in the U.S.? I heard about the blizzard on its way to DC on the news earlier this week.
 
Cupcake - :hugs: That's so frustrating. One of my good friends just got pregnant without trying, too. I think she's 10wks at this point? We were just chatting one day and she says, "Huh. I think AF is late, actually." Went out, bought some tests - lo and behold, pregnant.

If only it was that easy for the rest of us, right? Oye!

Have you tried listening to some upbeat, sing-along type songs on an MP3 player to help lift your mood? Even if it doesn't make you feel like working out, maybe it would at least help cheer you up a little. :)
 
Thanks gals. I live in TN. We have 8-9 inches of snow & still snowing. Ugh! Drinking coffee & watching Harry Potter....We did attempt sledding. But its too deep & powdery to get a good speed....snowman fail as well lol
I really shouldn't complain so much. Just can't help it, as this was the week of our 1st miscarriage in 2014. We had just found out we were pregnant & had so much joy! Of course it was short lived.....I don't want to ever forget our losses, but I'll be glad to get to the point of letting them rest in the past, if that ever happens.....*sigh...
Love you gals & thanks for putting up with me!
 
It will happen cupcake! And I'm sorry this is the week of your first loss PLUS you have to hear about that pregnancy.

Ps. I've never made a good snowman! I was just telling hubs that last weekend. It just falls apart or is all lopsided!
 
LOL Ours usually has grass & leaves all over it! Now we have all this snow, but it's not wet so it won't roll :/ Maybe tomorrow it'll will tho? BTW we are up to 11 inches & STILL snowing!
 
Swimmy: Thank you, that's very helpful! And eek! 9 weeks pregnant according to your signature, thinking of you and everyone else :)

Cupcake: A friend who blew up on me for trying to get pregnant and not having my life together just announced her second "oops"...SIGH. Soon it will be our turn though, right? Sending positive thoughts your way :)

You can't really make snowmen here...it's all really icy snow. Sometimes in the spring when it's melting you can but it melts quickly.

Mrs.G: I'm waiting for your chart to show ovulation so we can all fuss over your tww, haha!


How is everyone doing weight wise? I've been really stressed lately and eating more so I know I'm not doing too well...
 
I've definantly eaten too much today I've been crazy emotional all week.
I think I ovulated today or possible tomorrow. I had ewcm today. So I feel confident I'll ovulate.
 
Cupcake - sorry that you've been having a hard time for a while now.... sending you so many hugs. I can imagine that the anniversary of a loss really sucks and I can emphatise with feeling fed up with ttc over and over again :/. Hope you have a nice weekend of cuddles with dh all snowed in. Xx

I haven't had to deal with pregnancy announcements recently thank heavens, all my friends already have loads of kids & they're all just growing up. (All I'm doing is growing old :(). I really HATE it though when innocently stalking the ltttc forum (as you do ;) ) and then someone posts a whole thread in that forum about how THEY are pregnant now and how fortunate they are etc etc. I know it's my own fault for reading it but c'mon, there are clear rules in each forum for posting /not posting bfp announcements (esp a whole thread dedicated to your own pregnancy announcement in the ltttc section? Selfish & inconsiderate imo).

Anywhooooo....

Urs- so glad you will be seeing a different dr soon! As for the diet, just take it 1 day at a time. X

IRYM and mrsgreen- I hope you both O soon and join me in the tww! Mrsgreen, go seduce that hubby ;) btw I sometimes have a whole week of ewcm before ovulating (which makes sense because sperm has to reach the tubes safely even starting a few days before O!) So just keep on considering yourself fertile for as long as you have ewcm. Xx

Imminent O and hpt testing is so exciting especially when it's your thread friends lol. :)

Afm- nothing much. I am not holding out bfp hope for this cycle as dh has been taking long HOT baths every day in this heat, for months now! I never realised how hot he takes his baths before trying to get in with him a few nights ago and it was wayyyyyyy too hot, I had to jump right back out! (Our shower broke and has to be rebuilt from the floor up = too expensive for now) and also our bd timing was bad. But again, I'm glad to have a normal cycle with no bleeding/spotting.

Men are so ridiculous. I told him off for killing all his sperm and his defense was that "but the body has efficient mechanisms for keeping sperm alive".... yeah.... DUHHHHH.... by keeping the testes outside of the body so that sperm can mature at lower temps of 35 degrees!!! Boiled sperm are no good. Urgh. Idk how long he has been doing it. Our shower broke at the beginning of October last year.................
 

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