Hospital vs home birth?

[lynnikins]

My dd was born and she wasn't breathing at birth and was all blue. When I remember that panic I had I want to be in a hospital as much as I would like a home birth.
xx

You dont have to answer but, id be interested to know when your LO was born did they cut the cord imediately or was your placenta already somehow detached? just asking because as long as your connected to your baby via the placenta then there is really actually little need for babys to breathe as your body is providing oxegenated blood to them till that line is severed

both my boys were rather blue/purple when born simply from having the squeeze through the birth canal ( as most V birth babies are , at least the many ive seen ) with a bit of a rub a cry and a feed the pinked up fine, in fact with ds1 they cut the cord and took him to give him oxegen ( as is typical practice following ventouse delivery ) but ds2 who arrived the same color as his older brother was passed to my chest and a towel placed over him and i cuddled and nursed him and he became pinker as that process happend we allowed the cord to stop pulstating with him before cutting it so he got his full amount of blood ( as much as 1/3 of the babys blood can be in the cord and placenta at birth ) then clamped and cut the cord with no rush my body was providing for him till that point.

perhaps something to think over ..?

Hi,
I can't remember 100% for sure (very high on gas & air) I think they were about to cut the cord as they were holding this floppy baby asking my OH do you want to cut the cord and I was saying I don't care who cuts it, just get her breathing!
After it was cut she still wasn't breathing so they started rubbing her back-nothing. Then I started getting upset so they took her off for oxygen. She was fine.
I think what happened was I had pethidine and if you have it too close to delivery baby can be drowsy.
I have heard its good to delay the cutting of the cord(but it was something I had forgotten)so I am going to put that in my birth plan. Thanks for reminding me of that
xx

no worries hun glad i could help.

I just wondered if you knew. my OH couldnt understand how babys born in water didnt drown i had to tell him that they dont take a breath till they come in contact with air and they dont "need" to till the placenta seperates or the cord is cut caus mum is still providing them with oxygen till then lol.

Im sorry they couldnt pass that info on to you with the birth of your DD and prevent you panicking after all they have the equipment to be able to give oxygen with baby on your chest if needed

 

[moomin_troll]

My dd was born and she wasn't breathing at birth and was all blue. When I remember that panic I had I want to be in a hospital as much as I would like a home birth.
xx

You dont have to answer but, id be interested to know when your LO was born did they cut the cord imediately or was your placenta already somehow detached? just asking because as long as your connected to your baby via the placenta then there is really actually little need for babys to breathe as your body is providing oxegenated blood to them till that line is severed

both my boys were rather blue/purple when born simply from having the squeeze through the birth canal ( as most V birth babies are , at least the many ive seen ) with a bit of a rub a cry and a feed the pinked up fine, in fact with ds1 they cut the cord and took him to give him oxegen ( as is typical practice following ventouse delivery ) but ds2 who arrived the same color as his older brother was passed to my chest and a towel placed over him and i cuddled and nursed him and he became pinker as that process happend we allowed the cord to stop pulstating with him before cutting it so he got his full amount of blood ( as much as 1/3 of the babys blood can be in the cord and placenta at birth ) then clamped and cut the cord with no rush my body was providing for him till that point.

perhaps something to think over ..?

Hi,
I can't remember 100% for sure (very high on gas & air) I think they were about to cut the cord as they were holding this floppy baby asking my OH do you want to cut the cord and I was saying I don't care who cuts it, just get her breathing!
After it was cut she still wasn't breathing so they started rubbing her back-nothing. Then I started getting upset so they took her off for oxygen. She was fine.
I think what happened was I had pethidine and if you have it too close to delivery baby can be drowsy.
I have heard its good to delay the cutting of the cord(but it was something I had forgotten)so I am going to put that in my birth plan. Thanks for reminding me of that
xx

thats awful how laid back they were concidering ur baby wasnt breathing!
i hate it how they dont talk to u about clamping the cord, they just seem to do it...its in my notes i will be having a delayed cored clamping this time, i want my son to get all his blood.

zane was born blue aswel but was fine so i do think its their usual colour, is scary to see tho

 

[Belle25]

My dd was born and she wasn't breathing at birth and was all blue. When I remember that panic I had I want to be in a hospital as much as I would like a home birth.
xx

You dont have to answer but, id be interested to know when your LO was born did they cut the cord imediately or was your placenta already somehow detached? just asking because as long as your connected to your baby via the placenta then there is really actually little need for babys to breathe as your body is providing oxegenated blood to them till that line is severed

both my boys were rather blue/purple when born simply from having the squeeze through the birth canal ( as most V birth babies are , at least the many ive seen ) with a bit of a rub a cry and a feed the pinked up fine, in fact with ds1 they cut the cord and took him to give him oxegen ( as is typical practice following ventouse delivery ) but ds2 who arrived the same color as his older brother was passed to my chest and a towel placed over him and i cuddled and nursed him and he became pinker as that process happend we allowed the cord to stop pulstating with him before cutting it so he got his full amount of blood ( as much as 1/3 of the babys blood can be in the cord and placenta at birth ) then clamped and cut the cord with no rush my body was providing for him till that point.

perhaps something to think over ..?

Hi,
I can't remember 100% for sure (very high on gas & air) I think they were about to cut the cord as they were holding this floppy baby asking my OH do you want to cut the cord and I was saying I don't care who cuts it, just get her breathing!
After it was cut she still wasn't breathing so they started rubbing her back-nothing. Then I started getting upset so they took her off for oxygen. She was fine.
I think what happened was I had pethidine and if you have it too close to delivery baby can be drowsy.
I have heard its good to delay the cutting of the cord(but it was something I had forgotten)so I am going to put that in my birth plan. Thanks for reminding me of that
xx

no worries hun glad i could help.

I just wondered if you knew. my OH couldnt understand how babys born in water didnt drown i had to tell him that they dont take a breath till they come in contact with air and they dont "need" to till the placenta seperates or the cord is cut caus mum is still providing them with oxygen till then lol.

Im sorry they couldnt pass that info on to you with the birth of your DD and prevent you panicking after all they have the equipment to be able to give oxygen with baby on your chest if needed

Ha ha. I actually wondered the same thing, until I really thought about it-and they have been in liquid 9 months too so its no different for them being born in water is probably a nicer experience for them too.
xx

 

[lynnikins]

My dd was born and she wasn't breathing at birth and was all blue. When I remember that panic I had I want to be in a hospital as much as I would like a home birth.
xx

You dont have to answer but, id be interested to know when your LO was born did they cut the cord imediately or was your placenta already somehow detached? just asking because as long as your connected to your baby via the placenta then there is really actually little need for babys to breathe as your body is providing oxegenated blood to them till that line is severed

both my boys were rather blue/purple when born simply from having the squeeze through the birth canal ( as most V birth babies are , at least the many ive seen ) with a bit of a rub a cry and a feed the pinked up fine, in fact with ds1 they cut the cord and took him to give him oxegen ( as is typical practice following ventouse delivery ) but ds2 who arrived the same color as his older brother was passed to my chest and a towel placed over him and i cuddled and nursed him and he became pinker as that process happend we allowed the cord to stop pulstating with him before cutting it so he got his full amount of blood ( as much as 1/3 of the babys blood can be in the cord and placenta at birth ) then clamped and cut the cord with no rush my body was providing for him till that point.

perhaps something to think over ..?

Hi,
I can't remember 100% for sure (very high on gas & air) I think they were about to cut the cord as they were holding this floppy baby asking my OH do you want to cut the cord and I was saying I don't care who cuts it, just get her breathing!
After it was cut she still wasn't breathing so they started rubbing her back-nothing. Then I started getting upset so they took her off for oxygen. She was fine.
I think what happened was I had pethidine and if you have it too close to delivery baby can be drowsy.
I have heard its good to delay the cutting of the cord(but it was something I had forgotten)so I am going to put that in my birth plan. Thanks for reminding me of that
xx

thats awful how laid back they were concidering ur baby wasnt breathing!
i hate it how they dont talk to u about clamping the cord, they just seem to do it...its in my notes i will be having a delayed cored clamping this time, i want my son to get all his blood.

zane was born blue aswel but was fine so i do think its their usual colour, is scary to see tho

esp since in movies they always give the mother a nice pink screaming baby without blood in their hair lol. ds1 was scary to look at with the ventouse marks on his head and all

 

[Blah11]

I think all babies are born bluey grey Amelie was. My little brother was very blue, but fine.

Your probably right as the midwives seemed so laid back about it all holding this baby blue and floppy like it happens all the time. They were very experienced midwives too-very lucky I had the ones I had.
But when you see them on tv having babies they are screaming and I just expected that.
With second baby hopefully I will feel more relaxed.
xx

If you watch water births on YouTube, some babies seem to be underwater for an alarming amount of time but Obv they don't take a.breath until they're brought ip. It's another reason o want to give birth in the water. They've been in water fir 9 months, I figure skin to skin in the water with just his head out would be a calmer experience for Lo.

 

[Belle25]

My dd was born and she wasn't breathing at birth and was all blue. When I remember that panic I had I want to be in a hospital as much as I would like a home birth.
xx

You dont have to answer but, id be interested to know when your LO was born did they cut the cord imediately or was your placenta already somehow detached? just asking because as long as your connected to your baby via the placenta then there is really actually little need for babys to breathe as your body is providing oxegenated blood to them till that line is severed

both my boys were rather blue/purple when born simply from having the squeeze through the birth canal ( as most V birth babies are , at least the many ive seen ) with a bit of a rub a cry and a feed the pinked up fine, in fact with ds1 they cut the cord and took him to give him oxegen ( as is typical practice following ventouse delivery ) but ds2 who arrived the same color as his older brother was passed to my chest and a towel placed over him and i cuddled and nursed him and he became pinker as that process happend we allowed the cord to stop pulstating with him before cutting it so he got his full amount of blood ( as much as 1/3 of the babys blood can be in the cord and placenta at birth ) then clamped and cut the cord with no rush my body was providing for him till that point.

perhaps something to think over ..?

Hi,
I can't remember 100% for sure (very high on gas & air) I think they were about to cut the cord as they were holding this floppy baby asking my OH do you want to cut the cord and I was saying I don't care who cuts it, just get her breathing!
After it was cut she still wasn't breathing so they started rubbing her back-nothing. Then I started getting upset so they took her off for oxygen. She was fine.
I think what happened was I had pethidine and if you have it too close to delivery baby can be drowsy.
I have heard its good to delay the cutting of the cord(but it was something I had forgotten)so I am going to put that in my birth plan. Thanks for reminding me of that
xx

thats awful how laid back they were concidering ur baby wasnt breathing!
i hate it how they dont talk to u about clamping the cord, they just seem to do it...its in my notes i will be having a delayed cored clamping this time, i want my son to get all his blood.

zane was born blue aswel but was fine so i do think its their usual colour, is scary to see tho

esp since in movies they always give the mother a nice pink screaming baby without blood in their hair lol. ds1 was scary to look at with the ventouse marks on his head and all

Ha ha I know and the babies look about 3 months old!! Makes me laugh!
xx
My dd was all squished in the face poor thing.

 

[Belle25]

I think all babies are born bluey grey Amelie was. My little brother was very blue, but fine.

Your probably right as the midwives seemed so laid back about it all holding this baby blue and floppy like it happens all the time. They were very experienced midwives too-very lucky I had the ones I had.
But when you see them on tv having babies they are screaming and I just expected that.
With second baby hopefully I will feel more relaxed.
xx

If you watch water births on YouTube, some babies seem to be underwater for an alarming amount of time but Obv they don't take a.breath until they're brought ip. It's another reason o want to give birth in the water. They've been in water fir 9 months, I figure skin to skin in the water with just his head out would be a calmer experience for Lo.

Well to get a midwives view on it-my midwife told me she had a water birth and she cannot recommend it enough! She so wants me to have a water birth. And if a midwife who delivers babies everyday is saying that, there must be something in it.
xx

 

[Linzi]

My experience is that I had a fantastic hospital birth with my son, I was very lucky. And Im also very lucky to be in a low risk pregnancy again, with a very supportive team of midwives at the hospital and in the community who encourage HB if you are low risk.

I understand it isn't for everyone and I know that I would never push my opinion on anyone else, but it is very insulting to hear that other people think that what I'm doing is 'dangerous' for my baby, when actually what has happened is that usually the people who are brash enough to say that to someone hasn't done any research or know any facts about the situation.

I want to write a few things I have learnt about homebirth in my last 9 months, even though it's not a lot. I would much rather I knew that someone had read things first before passing judgement.

A gyne would never encourage you to have a homebirth if you are anything other than low risk. I think low risk is defined as a healthy baby, in the right position, no gestational diabetes or any other health problems to the mother, and mother and baby being a healthy weight. There's probably more but I can't think off the top of my head. Some women do have breech babies at home, but often come into a lot of conflict with medical professionals. If you are low risk then there is no reason why a delivery at home would be any different to in hospital.

A lot of the monitoring equiptment used is the same, so they can tell a lot earlier if baby is distressed. They monitor babys heartrate etc exactly the same as they would in hospital. If babys heartrate accelerates/decelerates consitently then you can go to hospital. It's not an 'emergency' as such, there is time to get to the hospital (so Ive been told and I live 20 mins from my hospital)

If a emergency c section is advised in hospital, the amount of time between the decision being made, to the first incision being made is on average 40 minutes. If something happened at home, the midwife would call ahead for the theatre to be prepped, surgeons and appropriate people to be on hand, the majority of people would get to the hospital within that time.

The midwives carry resuscitation equipment with them, and also an injection if the mother bleeds out to stem the bleed. I believe that in the situation where a baby needs to be recusitated or mum looses a lot of blood, an ambulance will still be called, but actually a real emergency can be dealt with until you could get into the hospital. Of course there are a few real emergency situations, they are very few and far between though and just because you are at home doesn't mean that the risk of these are increased. That is a personal decision. But normally in a low risk pregnancy there isn't any reason why these should occur.

There will be one midwife at home with you the whole time, (policy in our area is that) 2nd midwife arrives when you get to 5cms and both stay with you until the baby is born, placenta is out etc. When I was in hospital with my son the only time I had someone with me was when I was pushing. Before then there was no one. God forbid he had gone into distress, there would have been no one there to pick it up. Understaffing issues.

There is proven evidence to show that labour is quicker, less painful and less need for intervention compared with hospital births.

It's never going to be for everyone and thats fine, just the same as I would never have an epidural because of the increased risk of c section. Personal choice. And I don't think anyone is debating that, it's just quite insulting to be told that choices you are making for your baby are dangerous when actually in the right situation it can be safer than going to hospital!!

xxx

 

[lesleyann]

Well i had a hospital birth with my son and it sucked tbh.. They did not believe I was in labour when they decided to check i was 9cm!! Then they proceed to have to "hunt" for a room as they where "full", i was suposed to have 2mw's but by the time the second came back i had given birth. After i was just left alone even if i asked for help no-one came.. Id much rather be at home where my partner will be with me all night after giving birth so support me and have constant care from a Mw during my labour and delivery..

Infact my mw does not want to let me have a hospital birth even if i wanted one as she her self deemed it to dangerous considering in a total of 4hours from first contraction I had delivered and showerd!

 

[88Keys2]

At what point did I say labour wasn't as painful as a broken leg? I said it was different. & Yes, the pain CAN be horrific. I had a back to back labour and a direct OP vaginal birth. My baby was facing the ceiling when she came out and that is one of the most painful labour experiences you can get so don't talk to me about how horrific the pain can be
I've already said I had a hospital birth with my 1st and that it was a good experience so idk where you're getting that i don't trust doctors and hospitals at all? I do, and i think they're great for women who have complicated pregnancies and labours but I'm not sick, i don't need to go to one.

I quoted everything you said (including the part about broken leg pain) and you still don't seem to understand that some of the things you've said can be construed as hurtful and condescending. This thread could have stayed a simple one, where people simply state their opinions and don't judge others, but it's gone way beyond that. I'm done with it. Homebirthers win, I guess.

 

[MandaAnda]

Further to Linzi's comment, I think it's worth noting that women who choose to home birth research it to death. I'm not saying that women who choose to hospital birth all go into in blindly, as I'm sure many do their research as well. But if you choose to hospital birth, you can just put everything in the hands of the medical professionals and go into it "blindly." If you choose to home birth, you must do your research. It's not a decision taken lightly but rather well thought out and planned.

Before I was pregnant, I figured I'd have an epidural and hate labour like everyone you see on TV. I'd even attended births and still had this opinion. However, I'm the type of person to read as much as I can about a topic. And when I became pregnant, I read everything I could. I learned that our bodies are made to do this and that it makes sense to trust the process (I learned a lot more, but that's for another thread, another time). I also knew that I didn't want to be in hospital if I remained low-risk. I wasn't ill. I didn't want my baby around other people's germs. And, as mentioned up-thread, I know a "crash" section still takes ages to prepare for. I knew a midwife could spot any problem, ring ahead to the labour ward and update them, and I'd probably arrive at hospital before they had the operating theatre ready.

In the end, I didn't have a home birth because of meconium presence when my waters broke (and, FYI mummies, meconium does not mean your baby is necessarily in distress - if you're near or "over" your due date, chances are baby's bowels are just doing their job) and a stupid doctor scaremongering my husband. But I only used TENS for pain relief (gas & air and I didn't get along), and the knowledge I'd acquired during pregnancy made my labour as good as it could be in a setting I didn't want. I enjoyed labour. I enjoyed birth. And that's what informing yourself does - it gives you the opportunity to make the best decisions for you and your baby. And it's why those that choose to homebirth are so passionate about it - we've learned something.

 

[Blah11]

That's quite immature. It's not a competition

 

[Pixie2320]

Don't try and belittle me with your patronising 'savvy?' lol.

Our body IS made to give birth. Its what nature intended and the human body is remarkable at dealing with pain. We release all sorts to lessen the pain, and the risks that comes with an epidural isnt really worth it for a few pain free hours. Labour only lasts a few hours

But yeah, do what you like, it's your body and i dont particularly care. Hope you have a nice labour and all that.

ROFL.. I would love to know how you got that I'm being patronizing because I used the word savvy? It's the same as saying if you know what I mean, or if you get my drift etc etc etc..

Pretty sure some people here need to put on their big girl panties, or pull said big girl panties out of their ass cuz it sounds pretty well wedged up there

Its the equivalent of 'Understand?' which is also VERY patronising when used in the context that you did.

Well ill be damned- it appears YOU know more about what I meant and didn't mean than I do. That's a real talent you have there.

 

[Blah11]

Well clearly you don't understand how YOUR comments can come across either.

 

[Blah11]

Oh sorry it was someone else.

 

[Linzi]

At what point did I say labour wasn't as painful as a broken leg? I said it was different. & Yes, the pain CAN be horrific. I had a back to back labour and a direct OP vaginal birth. My baby was facing the ceiling when she came out and that is one of the most painful labour experiences you can get so don't talk to me about how horrific the pain can be
I've already said I had a hospital birth with my 1st and that it was a good experience so idk where you're getting that i don't trust doctors and hospitals at all? I do, and i think they're great for women who have complicated pregnancies and labours but I'm not sick, i don't need to go to one.

I quoted everything you said (including the part about broken leg pain) and you still don't seem to understand that some of the things you've said can be construed as hurtful and condescending. This thread could have stayed a simple one, where people simply state their opinions and don't judge others, but it's gone way beyond that. I'm done with it. Homebirthers win, I guess.

This doesn't need to be a competition or an argument, it's just having a little respect for others opinions

 

[Pixie2320]

Well clearly you don't understand how YOUR comments can come across either.

Yes because even once ive explained how it was meant you've still corrected me as to how I meant it.

This thread has become a ridiculous pissing match thanks to a few instead of people giving their choices as it was intended.

I haven't seen any pro hospital birthers talking down to or otherwise belittling pro home birthers, or trying to convince them to change their mind about where to birth or what pain relief to have- like I and many others have said- its a personal private choice so do what's right for you, but don't talk down to me for my choices.

 

[xheartsx]

I have read through all of the comments made. I think at the end of the day, people need different things to make them feel safe & comfy during labour. No one person is ever the same!

This has turned a bit sour instead of just a nice healthy debate. I think everyone should agree to disagree and get along again!

 

[lozzy21]

Home birth, i dont even need to think about it. I was booked in for a home birth with my daughter but she came early so went into hospital, i wont go into the details but it was a horrible experience, there were about 7 people in the room when she was born, all necessary at the time. BUT the issues i had could have been avoided, looking back i feel the interventions were unnecessary and very likely caused the problems. I had done my research but i was hungry and exhausted and her coming early had thrown me.

Next time i will he having a home birth, as-long as baby doesn't come early and ether way i will be having a doula to fight my cause for me since my mam and OH take the midwifes word as being right when it isent all ways.

 

[Blah11]

Well clearly you don't understand how YOUR comments can come across either.

Yes because even once ive explained how it was meant you've still corrected me as to how I meant it.

This thread has become a ridiculous pissing match thanks to a few instead of people giving their choices as it was intended.

I haven't seen any pro hospital birthers talking down to or otherwise belittling pro home birthers, or trying to convince them to change their mind about where to birth or what pain relief to have- like I and many others have said- its a personal private choice so do what's right for you, but don't talk down to me for my choices.

Well perhaps you should chose your words more wisely next time. Tone is very hard to read via text. Sorry for trying to clear up wrong misconceptions surrounding home and natural birth.