Hospital vs home birth?

So its okay to say homebirths are dangerous but god forbid if anyone disagrees with the overuse of epidurals :dohh:

In my mind there is a bit of danger involved yes. But I know what can happen. My cousin has dealt with severe life or death for mom and baby need immediate care no 5 min drive to hospital type emergency that no midwife could handle. And that is why I am saying for me I would feel much safer and more comfortable being in a hospital knowing that I would get that help if required immediately.

Childbirth in general has a bit of danger involved. Csections have a lot of danger involved and people still have electives. Would you say to someone who chose to have a csection that it was dangerous? Doubt it.
 
So its okay to say homebirths are dangerous but god forbid if anyone disagrees with the overuse of epidurals :dohh:

In my mind there is a bit of danger involved yes. But I know what can happen. My cousin has dealt with severe life or death for mom and baby need immediate care no 5 min drive to hospital type emergency that no midwife could handle. And that is why I am saying for me I would feel much safer and more comfortable being in a hospital knowing that I would get that help if required immediately.

Childbirth in general has a bit of danger involved. Csections have a lot of danger involved and people still have electives. Would you say to someone who chose to have a csection that it was dangerous? Doubt it.

early induction for no real reason can also be added to that list of things that are far more dangerous then a hb but people hardly ever speak up about
 
If you'd asked me last pregnancy or even the 1st half of this pregnancy, i'd say hospital, but laboring at home with a doula so i could show up almost pushing and not have to worry about a cascade of unecessary interventions.

As of the last few weeks, though, DH & i are now planning for a home birth. I'm lucky to live in a state where they are still legal (unless the baby ends up breech), and we're 10 minutes away from the hospital. Main factors: local home-birthing midwives' 3% c-section rate vs. the 33% rate i'd face as a 1st-timer at the hospital; 2 midwives to 1 patient at home vs. 1 nurse to 3 laboring women at the hospital; fewer tears, ability to move, option for water birth, delayed cord clamping...

I completely understand those who want a hospital birth, though - most of my family and friends have birthed in US hospitals with varying outcomes. :flower:
 
hm, thats disgusting that theyre illegal in some places in america :\
 
I would LOVE to have a home birth - I agree that in low risk pregnancies it's generally completely fine and it would be really nice to have proper one-to-one care in comfortable surroundings.

Unfortunately I won't be considered low risk, and I'm a total wuss so suspect i will be needing the whole kaboodle of pain meds...kinda hoping i surprise myself but i'm not holding out much hope!

Lisa x
 
I wouldn't do it anywhere but in a hospital. If something happened or went wrong would already be there ready to be taken care of. And often times minutes and seconds can mean everything. I wouldn't want to risk being at home and not getting the care would need. Also birth is quite messy too and I like my home to be very clean. I for sure wouldn't want to be cleaning all the mess up or anything like that and for sure my husband never would come close to it.

Hey, like your avatar - is that you on the horse? Just a small point, but if it's you, do you only ride in the hospital grounds? Horseriding is way more dangerous then birth! Do you know anyone who's had a riding accident? Heard of any? Yip we all have, just the same as we've all heard horror birth stories, yet we can't allow it to rule our lives "Just in case", as we know it's the minority. With birth it's far, far less likely to be an issue than with riding.

There are very, very few birth complications that are 1: not caused by the very interventions meant to "protect" us, or 2: not able to be picked up very far in advance of being an emergency situation.

To each their own, though and if you are the type of person who puts absolute faith in the medical method of birth and likes the clinical hospital setting, then fine, you need to be where you are most comfortable - as it's been well studied that fear in labour produces the "fight or flight" hormone, Adrenaline which can stall labour and stop oxytocin production (which gives you your contractions). Perhaps the reason that so many women are topped up with Pitocin in hospitals, the synthetic version, which generally doesn't work the same way and causes undue stress to the labouring woman, much pain and is a huge cause of fetal distress. Many find hospitals distressing, and the monitors etc do nothing but increase the fear, yet Continuous Fetal Monitoring has been shown not to have improved outcomes at all, but is thought to be responsible for raising the C-Section rate. For the sake of our babies, for our labours to progress normally and smoothly, we MUST be where we are most comfortable - for many that is home, with all it's familiarities and for some it's hospital, but the hospital choice seems to be driven by the fear of "what if", rather than comfort for most.

I just find it so sad that whole generations of ladies have been led to believe by the obstetric community thet they are unable to birth their babies normally, without these "knights in shining armour" and have lost faith in our innate ability to birth. The control and choice has been taken from most women about how best to manage their births, which in itself creates dependance on the medics and fear, thereby creating a vicious circle and perpetuating the very idea that we can't birth normally or naturally and that birth is so very dangerous it HAS to be in a medical setting. Statistically, you are more likely to be in a fatal car accident during your pregnancy than you are to have any kind of fatal emergency in birth. C-sections carry four times the morbidity risk of ANY vaginal birth, yet the rates for these are soaring in every "developed" country. Who's taking risks with our and our babies' health, then?
 
First I would like to say I think giving birth is a something every woman has different views on. In most cases I wouldn't say one view is better than another, its personal preference. Personally a hb is not for me, I wouldn't have felt comfortable at home. I wouldn't have felt relaxed and would have spent the whole time worrying. Maybe that is because my mother is a doctor in the childrens hospital that I delivered in. I grew up seeing and hearing about the wonderful care available there. But I also understand this world class care is not available in all hospitals, so if I didn't live where I do my views may be different. Also MW's are not licensed to work here, so if I did want a hb I would have to do it alone and that definitely isn't going to happen:nope:

With my hospital birth I feel I received the very best possible care. I had a nurse with me in my room every minute I was there. The only time she left was for her break during which I had another nurse come in with me. The labour room I was in was extremely clean and beautiful. Unfortunately after over 2hrs of pushing I had to have an EMCS and I'm so thankful that I was already in the hospital for it.

I spent 5 days in the hospital during which the care continued to be fantastic. I had a private room that OH stayed in with us the whole time. I learned so much about breastfeeding and caring for LO from the nurses. I'm so happy I had that time there to recover and bond with LO, knowing a nurse was only seconds away.
 
Don't try and belittle me with your patronising 'savvy?' lol.

Our body IS made to give birth. Its what nature intended and the human body is remarkable at dealing with pain. We release all sorts to lessen the pain, and the risks that comes with an epidural isnt really worth it for a few pain free hours. Labour only lasts a few hours :shrug:

But yeah, do what you like, it's your body and i dont particularly care. Hope you have a nice labour and all that.

ROFL.. I would love to know how you got that I'm being patronizing because I used the word savvy? It's the same as saying if you know what I mean, or if you get my drift etc etc etc..

Pretty sure some people here need to put on their big girl panties, or pull said big girl panties out of their ass cuz it sounds pretty well wedged up there :dohh:
 
i totaly agree with how ur treated in hospital has a great effect on how u feel.

i had a awful experience in hospital while giving birth to my first, so i knew if i was to give birth again while living in this area i would not be going back there unless needed. i was living in germany when baby 2 was being planned so i was going to give birth in a little house next to the hospital that was run by mws.

it also gets me when people say they will get the care needed straight away if they are in hospital because thats not always the case. my mum while giving birth to me is a perfect example of that
 
I wouldn't do it anywhere but in a hospital. If something happened or went wrong would already be there ready to be taken care of. And often times minutes and seconds can mean everything. I wouldn't want to risk being at home and not getting the care would need. Also birth is quite messy too and I like my home to be very clean. I for sure wouldn't want to be cleaning all the mess up or anything like that and for sure my husband never would come close to it.

Hey, like your avatar - is that you on the horse? Just a small point, but if it's you, do you only ride in the hospital grounds? Horseriding is way more dangerous then birth! Do you know anyone who's had a riding accident? Heard of any? Yip we all have, just the same as we've all heard horror birth stories, yet we can't allow it to rule our lives "Just in case", as we know it's the minority. With birth it's far, far less likely to be an issue than with riding.

There are very, very few birth complications that are 1: not caused by the very interventions meant to "protect" us, or 2: not able to be picked up very far in advance of being an emergency situation.

To each their own, though and if you are the type of person who puts absolute faith in the medical method of birth and likes the clinical hospital setting, then fine, you need to be where you are most comfortable - as it's been well studied that fear in labour produces the "fight or flight" hormone, Adrenaline which can stall labour and stop oxytocin production (which gives you your contractions). Perhaps the reason that so many women are topped up with Pitocin in hospitals, the synthetic version, which generally doesn't work the same way and causes undue stress to the labouring woman, much pain and is a huge cause of fetal distress. Many find hospitals distressing, and the monitors etc do nothing but increase the fear, yet Continuous Fetal Monitoring has been shown not to have improved outcomes at all, but is thought to be responsible for raising the C-Section rate. For the sake of our babies, for our labours to progress normally and smoothly, we MUST be where we are most comfortable - for many that is home, with all it's familiarities and for some it's hospital, but the hospital choice seems to be driven by the fear of "what if", rather than comfort for most.

I just find it so sad that whole generations of ladies have been led to believe by the obstetric community thet they are unable to birth their babies normally, without these "knights in shining armour" and have lost faith in our innate ability to birth. The control and choice has been taken from most women about how best to manage their births, which in itself creates dependance on the medics and fear, thereby creating a vicious circle and perpetuating the very idea that we can't birth normally or naturally and that birth is so very dangerous it HAS to be in a medical setting. Statistically, you are more likely to be in a fatal car accident during your pregnancy than you are to have any kind of fatal emergency in birth. C-sections carry four times the morbidity risk of ANY vaginal birth, yet the rates for these are soaring in every "developed" country. Who's taking risks with our and our babies' health, then?

In the end - WHO CARES if she, or anyone else, feels "safer" giving birth in a hospital instead of at home? Or who cares if people would rather birth in their own home than in the hospital?

You brought up her being on a horse. Look at it this way, if you're going to bring that up. She feels comfortable on a horse, so no, she probably doesn't ride "on hospital grounds" even though she knows something could happen. However, she doesn't feel comfortable laboring at home, so she's going to a hospital.

It's like driving a car. When we're in our own car, something we're familiar with, we feel more comfortable driving it. With other people's car - an unknown car - we're a bit more cautious.

Make sense?

When it comes down to it, it's all about COMFORT - whether people have a hospital birth because they are afraid of the "what ifs" or because they just feel a hospital is right for them, either way, they're doing what they are comfortable with.

What right does anyone have to belittle that? If woman want a home birth, then great! If they want a hospital birth, then great too! As I mentioned before, the beauty of having a child is that we all get to at least TRY to go with what makes us most comfortable - sometimes things happen and they don't go as planned, but we at least have a voice.
 
^^ WSS

I think it's a bit redonkulous that something as personal as your birth choice is being debated. This isn't a debate-worthy topic, it's a personal private choice.

If you want to have a home birth, by all means, enjoy, I hope it's a beautiful experience - especially for those who have had a horrible hospital experience :thumbup:

If you want to have a drug free birth, more power to you - it's not a free pass to judge those who have already decided they want a hospital birth, or want pain management simply because " our bodies were made for this"

I've made the point a million times before, just because our bodies were made for giving birth does not mean we should suffer through pain when there are options available to us. Women also used to have c-sections with no epidural or pain killers, so surely we should all be able to do that too? Since our bodies were made for it and all.

In the end, whats right for me may not be or you, and whats right for you might not be right for me, just because we don't make the same choices does not mean every little thing needs to turn into an argument.
 
I have been so on the fence about home birth, originally planning on having one, then not, now I'm back to thinking we will at least try for one. I am thinking we will have everything planned for the home birth, and then if anything were to go wrong, or I felt uncomfortable being stuck at home (if there was a snowstorm coming and it would take a lot longer to get to hospital which is 30 min w/o any snow, if baby was in any distress, if I truly could not handle the pain, ect) then we could go to the hospital. OH and I have both gone through childbirth training in our medic classes and I feel comfortable knowing how to fix most of the complications, and knowing what signs to look for during labor that signal something could be wrong.

As others have said, women's bodies were made to give birth, and we have been doing it for millions of years without pain relief or hospital interventions. This is still the case in many countries, and I believe in the power of my body to do what it is made to do. However, knowing that I have never given birth before, I am not ready to say that 100 percent I will be sticking to the home birth. I just think it is something good for every woman to consider, knowing it is not for everyone.
 
I wouldn't do it anywhere but in a hospital. If something happened or went wrong would already be there ready to be taken care of. And often times minutes and seconds can mean everything. I wouldn't want to risk being at home and not getting the care would need. Also birth is quite messy too and I like my home to be very clean. I for sure wouldn't want to be cleaning all the mess up or anything like that and for sure my husband never would come close to it.

Hey, like your avatar - is that you on the horse? Just a small point, but if it's you, do you only ride in the hospital grounds? Horseriding is way more dangerous then birth! Do you know anyone who's had a riding accident? Heard of any? Yip we all have, just the same as we've all heard horror birth stories, yet we can't allow it to rule our lives "Just in case", as we know it's the minority. With birth it's far, far less likely to be an issue than with riding.

There are very, very few birth complications that are 1: not caused by the very interventions meant to "protect" us, or 2: not able to be picked up very far in advance of being an emergency situation.

To each their own, though and if you are the type of person who puts absolute faith in the medical method of birth and likes the clinical hospital setting, then fine, you need to be where you are most comfortable - as it's been well studied that fear in labour produces the "fight or flight" hormone, Adrenaline which can stall labour and stop oxytocin production (which gives you your contractions). Perhaps the reason that so many women are topped up with Pitocin in hospitals, the synthetic version, which generally doesn't work the same way and causes undue stress to the labouring woman, much pain and is a huge cause of fetal distress. Many find hospitals distressing, and the monitors etc do nothing but increase the fear, yet Continuous Fetal Monitoring has been shown not to have improved outcomes at all, but is thought to be responsible for raising the C-Section rate. For the sake of our babies, for our labours to progress normally and smoothly, we MUST be where we are most comfortable - for many that is home, with all it's familiarities and for some it's hospital, but the hospital choice seems to be driven by the fear of "what if", rather than comfort for most.

I just find it so sad that whole generations of ladies have been led to believe by the obstetric community thet they are unable to birth their babies normally, without these "knights in shining armour" and have lost faith in our innate ability to birth. The control and choice has been taken from most women about how best to manage their births, which in itself creates dependance on the medics and fear, thereby creating a vicious circle and perpetuating the very idea that we can't birth normally or naturally and that birth is so very dangerous it HAS to be in a medical setting. Statistically, you are more likely to be in a fatal car accident during your pregnancy than you are to have any kind of fatal emergency in birth. C-sections carry four times the morbidity risk of ANY vaginal birth, yet the rates for these are soaring in every "developed" country. Who's taking risks with our and our babies' health, then?

In the end - WHO CARES if she, or anyone else, feels "safer" giving birth in a hospital instead of at home? Or who cares if people would rather birth in their own home than in the hospital?

You brought up her being on a horse. Look at it this way, if you're going to bring that up. She feels comfortable on a horse, so no, she probably doesn't ride "on hospital grounds" even though she knows something could happen. However, she doesn't feel comfortable laboring at home, so she's going to a hospital.

It's like driving a car. When we're in our own car, something we're familiar with, we feel more comfortable driving it. With other people's car - an unknown car - we're a bit more cautious.

Make sense?

When it comes down to it, it's all about COMFORT - whether people have a hospital birth because they are afraid of the "what ifs" or because they just feel a hospital is right for them, either way, they're doing what they are comfortable with.

What right does anyone have to belittle that? If woman want a home birth, then great! If they want a hospital birth, then great too! As I mentioned before, the beauty of having a child is that we all get to at least TRY to go with what makes us most comfortable - sometimes things happen and they don't go as planned, but we at least have a voice.

Sorry, but if you read my post again, you'll see I said that you have to be comfortable, and for some that will be home, some it will be hospital! Who was belittling anyone?

As for getting the choice, my point is, sadly all too often this is not the case - how many posts or threads have you seen on here beginning "they won't let me..," or "I'm being refused..." "I'm not allowed..."?
 
I wouldn't do it anywhere but in a hospital. If something happened or went wrong would already be there ready to be taken care of. And often times minutes and seconds can mean everything. I wouldn't want to risk being at home and not getting the care would need. Also birth is quite messy too and I like my home to be very clean. I for sure wouldn't want to be cleaning all the mess up or anything like that and for sure my husband never would come close to it.

Hey, like your avatar - is that you on the horse? Just a small point, but if it's you, do you only ride in the hospital grounds? Horseriding is way more dangerous then birth! Do you know anyone who's had a riding accident? Heard of any? Yip we all have, just the same as we've all heard horror birth stories, yet we can't allow it to rule our lives "Just in case", as we know it's the minority. With birth it's far, far less likely to be an issue than with riding.

There are very, very few birth complications that are 1: not caused by the very interventions meant to "protect" us, or 2: not able to be picked up very far in advance of being an emergency situation.

To each their own, though and if you are the type of person who puts absolute faith in the medical method of birth and likes the clinical hospital setting, then fine, you need to be where you are most comfortable - as it's been well studied that fear in labour produces the "fight or flight" hormone, Adrenaline which can stall labour and stop oxytocin production (which gives you your contractions). Perhaps the reason that so many women are topped up with Pitocin in hospitals, the synthetic version, which generally doesn't work the same way and causes undue stress to the labouring woman, much pain and is a huge cause of fetal distress. Many find hospitals distressing, and the monitors etc do nothing but increase the fear, yet Continuous Fetal Monitoring has been shown not to have improved outcomes at all, but is thought to be responsible for raising the C-Section rate. For the sake of our babies, for our labours to progress normally and smoothly, we MUST be where we are most comfortable - for many that is home, with all it's familiarities and for some it's hospital, but the hospital choice seems to be driven by the fear of "what if", rather than comfort for most.

I just find it so sad that whole generations of ladies have been led to believe by the obstetric community thet they are unable to birth their babies normally, without these "knights in shining armour" and have lost faith in our innate ability to birth. The control and choice has been taken from most women about how best to manage their births, which in itself creates dependance on the medics and fear, thereby creating a vicious circle and perpetuating the very idea that we can't birth normally or naturally and that birth is so very dangerous it HAS to be in a medical setting. Statistically, you are more likely to be in a fatal car accident during your pregnancy than you are to have any kind of fatal emergency in birth. C-sections carry four times the morbidity risk of ANY vaginal birth, yet the rates for these are soaring in every "developed" country. Who's taking risks with our and our babies' health, then?

In the end - WHO CARES if she, or anyone else, feels "safer" giving birth in a hospital instead of at home? Or who cares if people would rather birth in their own home than in the hospital?

You brought up her being on a horse. Look at it this way, if you're going to bring that up. She feels comfortable on a horse, so no, she probably doesn't ride "on hospital grounds" even though she knows something could happen. However, she doesn't feel comfortable laboring at home, so she's going to a hospital.

It's like driving a car. When we're in our own car, something we're familiar with, we feel more comfortable driving it. With other people's car - an unknown car - we're a bit more cautious.

Make sense?

When it comes down to it, it's all about COMFORT - whether people have a hospital birth because they are afraid of the "what ifs" or because they just feel a hospital is right for them, either way, they're doing what they are comfortable with.

What right does anyone have to belittle that? If woman want a home birth, then great! If they want a hospital birth, then great too! As I mentioned before, the beauty of having a child is that we all get to at least TRY to go with what makes us most comfortable - sometimes things happen and they don't go as planned, but we at least have a voice.

Sorry, but if you read my post again, you'll see I said that you have to be comfortable, and for some that will be home, some it will be hospital! Who was belittling anyone?

As for getting the choice, my point is, sadly all too often this is not the case - how many posts or threads have you seen on here beginning "they won't let me..," or "I'm being refused..." "I'm not allowed..."?

Your Hey, like your avatar - is that you on the horse? Just a small point, but if it's you, do you only ride in the hospital grounds? comment was, in my opinion, belittling and unnecessary.
 
^^ WSS

I think it's a bit redonkulous that something as personal as your birth choice is being debated. This isn't a debate-worthy topic, it's a personal private choice.

Sorry, but the thread title is "Hospital V's Home Birth" - surely it's then open to debate? Is that not the purpose of the thread, to gather differing opinions? Yes, it's personal choice, but the OP asked for opinions.
 
^^ WSS

I think it's a bit redonkulous that something as personal as your birth choice is being debated. This isn't a debate-worthy topic, it's a personal private choice.

Sorry, but the thread title is "Hospital V's Home Birth" - surely it's then open to debate? Is that not the purpose of the thread, to gather differing opinions? Yes, it's personal choice, but the OP asked for opinions.

Yes and its possible to give your opinion without talking down to others regarding their opinion- and possible to give opinions without debating them :thumbup:there is no" right" answer
 
I wouldn't do it anywhere but in a hospital. If something happened or went wrong would already be there ready to be taken care of. And often times minutes and seconds can mean everything. I wouldn't want to risk being at home and not getting the care would need. Also birth is quite messy too and I like my home to be very clean. I for sure wouldn't want to be cleaning all the mess up or anything like that and for sure my husband never would come close to it.

Hey, like your avatar - is that you on the horse? Just a small point, but if it's you, do you only ride in the hospital grounds? Horseriding is way more dangerous then birth! Do you know anyone who's had a riding accident? Heard of any? Yip we all have, just the same as we've all heard horror birth stories, yet we can't allow it to rule our lives "Just in case", as we know it's the minority. With birth it's far, far less likely to be an issue than with riding.

There are very, very few birth complications that are 1: not caused by the very interventions meant to "protect" us, or 2: not able to be picked up very far in advance of being an emergency situation.

To each their own, though and if you are the type of person who puts absolute faith in the medical method of birth and likes the clinical hospital setting, then fine, you need to be where you are most comfortable - as it's been well studied that fear in labour produces the "fight or flight" hormone, Adrenaline which can stall labour and stop oxytocin production (which gives you your contractions). Perhaps the reason that so many women are topped up with Pitocin in hospitals, the synthetic version, which generally doesn't work the same way and causes undue stress to the labouring woman, much pain and is a huge cause of fetal distress. Many find hospitals distressing, and the monitors etc do nothing but increase the fear, yet Continuous Fetal Monitoring has been shown not to have improved outcomes at all, but is thought to be responsible for raising the C-Section rate. For the sake of our babies, for our labours to progress normally and smoothly, we MUST be where we are most comfortable - for many that is home, with all it's familiarities and for some it's hospital, but the hospital choice seems to be driven by the fear of "what if", rather than comfort for most.

I just find it so sad that whole generations of ladies have been led to believe by the obstetric community thet they are unable to birth their babies normally, without these "knights in shining armour" and have lost faith in our innate ability to birth. The control and choice has been taken from most women about how best to manage their births, which in itself creates dependance on the medics and fear, thereby creating a vicious circle and perpetuating the very idea that we can't birth normally or naturally and that birth is so very dangerous it HAS to be in a medical setting. Statistically, you are more likely to be in a fatal car accident during your pregnancy than you are to have any kind of fatal emergency in birth. C-sections carry four times the morbidity risk of ANY vaginal birth, yet the rates for these are soaring in every "developed" country. Who's taking risks with our and our babies' health, then?

In the end - WHO CARES if she, or anyone else, feels "safer" giving birth in a hospital instead of at home? Or who cares if people would rather birth in their own home than in the hospital?

You brought up her being on a horse. Look at it this way, if you're going to bring that up. She feels comfortable on a horse, so no, she probably doesn't ride "on hospital grounds" even though she knows something could happen. However, she doesn't feel comfortable laboring at home, so she's going to a hospital.

It's like driving a car. When we're in our own car, something we're familiar with, we feel more comfortable driving it. With other people's car - an unknown car - we're a bit more cautious.

Make sense?

When it comes down to it, it's all about COMFORT - whether people have a hospital birth because they are afraid of the "what ifs" or because they just feel a hospital is right for them, either way, they're doing what they are comfortable with.

What right does anyone have to belittle that? If woman want a home birth, then great! If they want a hospital birth, then great too! As I mentioned before, the beauty of having a child is that we all get to at least TRY to go with what makes us most comfortable - sometimes things happen and they don't go as planned, but we at least have a voice.

Sorry, but if you read my post again, you'll see I said that you have to be comfortable, and for some that will be home, some it will be hospital! Who was belittling anyone?

As for getting the choice, my point is, sadly all too often this is not the case - how many posts or threads have you seen on here beginning "they won't let me..," or "I'm being refused..." "I'm not allowed..."?

Your Hey, like your avatar - is that you on the horse? Just a small point, but if it's you, do you only ride in the hospital grounds? comment was, in my opinion, belittling and unnecessary.

It wasn't aimed at being belittling, just drawing an obvious parallel about risk in order to demonstrate people's attitude towards risk in childbirth against common risks in everyday life, it's sometimes perceived very differently, why is that so? Why do we focus so much on the tiny risks inherant in birth, but happily involve ourselves in obviously dangerous persuits in other areas of life without analysing it so very much? I feel it's all about perception, and the perception of birth is unfortunately often very far from reality, that is my point. I feel it is perpetuated by many in the medical community and I feel that that is a shame and robbing women of their birth experiences and faith in their bodies. I thought it was a fair and obvious camparison, not anything mean or nasty but I aplogise if it came accross any other way.
 
Don't try and belittle me with your patronising 'savvy?' lol.

Our body IS made to give birth. Its what nature intended and the human body is remarkable at dealing with pain. We release all sorts to lessen the pain, and the risks that comes with an epidural isnt really worth it for a few pain free hours. Labour only lasts a few hours :shrug:

But yeah, do what you like, it's your body and i dont particularly care. Hope you have a nice labour and all that.

ROFL.. I would love to know how you got that I'm being patronizing because I used the word savvy? It's the same as saying if you know what I mean, or if you get my drift etc etc etc..

Pretty sure some people here need to put on their big girl panties, or pull said big girl panties out of their ass cuz it sounds pretty well wedged up there :dohh:

Its the equivalent of 'Understand?' which is also VERY patronising when used in the context that you did.
 
The thread is called homebirth vs hospital LOL obv there is going to be a bit of debate about it

eta - someone bet me to it!
 

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