(I had 2 paracetamol lol does that count!!)
Hehe IMO about as much as putting a band aid on your stump where your leg was just cut off!
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(I had 2 paracetamol lol does that count!!)
Hehe IMO about as much as putting a band aid on your stump where your leg was just cut off!
Do you see how conflicting the first two paragraghs of your post are? You dobt understand why it should matter, yet it might offend some people because it DID matter and they didnt get what they wanted in their own labours.Why does it matter? As long as they arrive safely they could of given and done anything to me and I wouldn't of cared.
If it doesn't matter to you then you don't really apply to any of my questions.it matters to some mothers.
I don't understand why it matters so much though![]()
Why does it matter?
I think to most mums all that MATTERS is that they have their baby in their arms!
Like saphire says, I hope no mums on here are reading this because some mums don't gave a choice and doesnt go so plain sailing as you nay want or dream.
I'm feeling sensitive about this because I have a friend who had a very distressed birth and resulted in their son being very poorly and has only just heen able come home after 6 weeks. So, imo, no it doesn't matter how the yell our babies arrive into our arms as long as the baby is ok and not if we are ok in how they arrived!
It matters to me. Of course it should matter to me. Labour is hte most empowering experience a woman can ever have. I know I would be devastated if I had many interventions. I invision a drug free labour, natural at home. It is not just a dream, it is reality! Of course there are some occasions where natural births cannot happen - say csections - but otherwords it really doesnt need to be viewed as a pipe dream for any one!!
I am not saying tha natural is obviously superior.i am just saying it needn't be a touchy subject for those that actively chose drugs.
and those that had interventions they couldnt control, well, I cant see why they would be offended either, because it wasnt in there control and no blame could be on them.
well youve offended me. YOU asked a question..I told you my experience then you commented that it wasnt natural. As far as im concerned gas and air didnt do anything exept make my voice funny and even if you dont consider it a natural birth, I do. As much as you say people should appreciate your opinion of what is 'natural' I think you should fully appreciate others opinion of what 'natural' is. And I agree wih others, such a subjective subject..and what does it matter anyway? Its treads like this that make people feel like a failure for having meds, and for those suffering with PND its not exactly what they would want to hear.
I wouldn't argue with her ladies.
She (hot tea) likes to start and continue controversial threads![]()
also without medical personel, haha. Yay me!
I gave birth at the hospital but they were too slow.
Do you see how conflicting the first two paragraghs of your post are? You dobt understand why it should matter, yet it might offend some people because it DID matter and they didnt get what they wanted in their own labours.Why does it matter? As long as they arrive safely they could of given and done anything to me and I wouldn't of cared.
If it doesn't matter to you then you don't really apply to any of my questions.it matters to some mothers.
I don't understand why it matters so much though![]()
Why does it matter?
I think to most mums all that MATTERS is that they have their baby in their arms!
Like saphire says, I hope no mums on here are reading this because some mums don't gave a choice and doesnt go so plain sailing as you nay want or dream.
I'm feeling sensitive about this because I have a friend who had a very distressed birth and resulted in their son being very poorly and has only just heen able come home after 6 weeks. So, imo, no it doesn't matter how the yell our babies arrive into our arms as long as the baby is ok and not if we are ok in how they arrived!
It matters to me. Of course it should matter to me. Labour is hte most empowering experience a woman can ever have. I know I would be devastated if I had many interventions. I invision a drug free labour, natural at home. It is not just a dream, it is reality! Of course there are some occasions where natural births cannot happen - say csections - but otherwords it really doesnt need to be viewed as a pipe dream for any one!!
I am not saying tha natural is obviously superior.i am just saying it needn't be a touchy subject for those that actively chose drugs.
and those that had interventions they couldnt control, well, I cant see why they would be offended either, because it wasnt in there control and no blame could be on them.
well youve offended me. YOU asked a question..I told you my experience then you commented that it wasnt natural. As far as im concerned gas and air didnt do anything exept make my voice funny and even if you dont consider it a natural birth, I do. As much as you say people should appreciate your opinion of what is 'natural' I think you should fully appreciate others opinion of what 'natural' is. And I agree wih others, such a subjective subject..and what does it matter anyway? Its treads like this that make people feel like a failure for having meds, and for those suffering with PND its not exactly what they would want to hear.
I wouldn't argue with her ladies.
She (hot tea) likes to start and continue controversial threads![]()
My thread is not even controversial. It wasnt even meant ot be a debate. I asked questions, it opened up conversation. You are absolutely rude.![]()
As I said to Fabby, I understand where you are coming from because ideally I would have wanted an intervention and drug free birth. But unfortunately that didn't happen for me.
But what I think Fabby is trying to say is that if you get yourself all hyped up for a completely natural birth, but for whatever reason that doesn't happen - will you be disappointed? Will it matter to you when you are holding your gorgeous, healthy little baby in your arms at the end of it?
That's why I didn't make a birth plan. I made a decision to go with the flow and that way I knew I would be happy whatever the outcome - and I was![]()
also without medical personel, haha. Yay me!
I gave birth at the hospital but they were too slow.
Wow, now that must be an amazing birth story!!
also without medical personel, haha. Yay me!
I gave birth at the hospital but they were too slow.
Wow, now that must be an amazing birth story!!
Haha it was, link in my signature. I almost gave birth in the car
No one go off on me, but having a natural birth was VERY important to me personally, but I don't look down on those who have had drugs or anything.
Just my 2 cents, that's all I'm saying.![]()
also without medical personel, haha. Yay me!
I gave birth at the hospital but they were too slow.
Wow, now that must be an amazing birth story!!
Haha it was, link in my signature. I almost gave birth in the car
No one go off on me, but having a natural birth was VERY important to me personally, but I don't look down on those who have had drugs or anything.
Just my 2 cents, that's all I'm saying.![]()
I do find I look down a little on those who opt for c-sections without there being a medical need, as they are turning down the chance to do something I wanted to do but was denied, if that makes sense?
also without medical personel, haha. Yay me!
I gave birth at the hospital but they were too slow.
Wow, now that must be an amazing birth story!!
Haha it was, link in my signature. I almost gave birth in the car
No one go off on me, but having a natural birth was VERY important to me personally, but I don't look down on those who have had drugs or anything.
Just my 2 cents, that's all I'm saying.![]()
I do find I look down a little on those who opt for c-sections without there being a medical need, as they are turning down the chance to do something I wanted to do but was denied, if that makes sense?
also without medical personel, haha. Yay me!
I gave birth at the hospital but they were too slow.
Wow, now that must be an amazing birth story!!
Haha it was, link in my signature. I almost gave birth in the car
No one go off on me, but having a natural birth was VERY important to me personally, but I don't look down on those who have had drugs or anything.
Just my 2 cents, that's all I'm saying.![]()
I do find I look down a little on those who opt for c-sections without there being a medical need, as they are turning down the chance to do something I wanted to do but was denied, if that makes sense?
I, personally, don't see the point in having a c-section just for the sake of it either. But that's my opinion x
also without medical personel, haha. Yay me!
I gave birth at the hospital but they were too slow.
Wow, now that must be an amazing birth story!!
Haha it was, link in my signature. I almost gave birth in the car
No one go off on me, but having a natural birth was VERY important to me personally, but I don't look down on those who have had drugs or anything.
Just my 2 cents, that's all I'm saying.![]()
I do find I look down a little on those who opt for c-sections without there being a medical need, as they are turning down the chance to do something I wanted to do but was denied, if that makes sense?
I, personally, don't see the point in having a c-section just for the sake of it either. But that's my opinion x
i don't know how many people have a c section for no medical need ( in UK anyway). My friend had a very traumatic first birth and felt she couldn't go through it again so wanted a c section this time. she had the really fight for it. i'd still say she had a medical need cause of a traumatic first delivery and physicolgically she couldn't face it again.....
also without medical personel, haha. Yay me!
I gave birth at the hospital but they were too slow.
Wow, now that must be an amazing birth story!!
Haha it was, link in my signature. I almost gave birth in the car
No one go off on me, but having a natural birth was VERY important to me personally, but I don't look down on those who have had drugs or anything.
Just my 2 cents, that's all I'm saying.![]()
I do find I look down a little on those who opt for c-sections without there being a medical need, as they are turning down the chance to do something I wanted to do but was denied, if that makes sense?
I, personally, don't see the point in having a c-section just for the sake of it either. But that's my opinion x
i don't know how many people have a c section for no medical need ( in UK anyway). My friend had a very traumatic first birth and felt she couldn't go through it again so wanted a c section this time. she had the really fight for it. i'd still say she had a medical need cause of a traumatic first delivery and physicolgically she couldn't face it again.....