How widespread is bacterial contamination of powdered infant formula?

[aimee-lou]

Hang on a minute - everyone should know that! That's why you should add powder to water about 70 degrees, to kill said bacteria. When they say it's not possible to make it sterile, they mean the manufacturing process, not the preparation of feeds!

Ditto

 

[Nic1107]

Where did she say you have never FF? So you've been converted, good. Breastfeeding is great. We can't all do it. If you're sincerely interested in helping, perhaps you could actually post info on the proper preparation of a bottle?

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

Can I just ask how you actually thought you were helping??

 

[xpinkness87x]

Where did she say you have never FF? So you've been converted, good. Breastfeeding is great. We can't all do it. If you're sincerely interested in helping, perhaps you could actually post info on the proper preparation of a bottle?

I agree with you... i wanted to but i was in shock and didnt hold oliver for over 5 hours by which point i had told them to give him a bottle (again i was in shock and didnt know what i was doing)

 

[aimee-lou]

deleted because I'm too tired to get involved

 

[3Cherubs]

No I haven't converted to anything. But I can see that in sharing information some of you have chosen to get upset. I apologize for any ill feelings ladies.

 

[Aidan's Mummy]

But was was your point. Was it about how to prepare a bottle properly which you could have just put down instead of posting an article that has very negative comments about FF

 

[Nic1107]

Thank you for the information, and highlighting the importance of careful formula preparation. It's very easy to get on the defensive in certain situations, and I apologize if you truly did mean to help rather than judge. Things can come across very harsh to a new mommy at ridiculous-o'clock in the morning, and whether or not things are anti-FF is an extremely hot-button issue here.

 

[3Cherubs]

It doesn't have negative comments about FF. It has FACTS about formula itself. And no, not everyone knows how to make a bottle properly. Some people wouldn't think twice about swaying from the guidelines of bottle making unless they knew how dangerous it could be. So just stating how to do so properly doesn't have as much of an impact as stating the risks involved with not doing so. That is all.

 

[3Cherubs]

Thank you for the information, and highlighting the importance of careful formula preparation. It's very easy to get on the defensive in certain situations, and I apologize if you truly did mean to help rather than judge. Things can come across very harsh to a new mommy at ridiculous-o'clock in the morning, and whether or not things are anti-FF is an extremely hot-button issue here.

Thank you for being open and receptive to my intentions after I expressed them. That means a lot to me.

 

[Nic1107]

Some here would doubt it, but I'm both rational and open-minded despite having knee-jerk reactions. I see you're new so welcome to the forum btw!

 

[WW1]

I personally have no problem with this article being posted. I wouldn't have read it otherwise and it was interesting. I didn't think it was anti-FF; it just highlighted the findings of a study linked to FF.

Most FF mums know the product isn't sterile but reading that has reminded me once again just how important the correct preparation of bottles is. That is no bad thing.

I love this forum precisely because of the varied information and advice that is shared. It was a valid place to post the article as it was about FF.

3cherubs - I accept your intention was to bring some facts to our attention and I thank you for that.

 

[3Cherubs]

Some here would doubt it, but I'm both rational and open-minded despite having knee-jerk reactions. I see you're new so welcome to the forum btw!

Yes, it's those knee-jerk reactions we must tame. I am guilty of them myself but working hard to stop it because I am trying to teach a 5yr old coping skills and proper reactions to certain situations/circumstances, that do as I say not as I do thing doesn't go over well.

Thanks for the welcome.

I personally have no problem with this article being posted. I wouldn't have read it otherwise and it was interesting. I didn't think it was anti-FF; it just highlighted the findings of a study linked to FF.

Most FF mums know the product isn't sterile but reading that has reminded me once again just how important the correct preparation of bottles is. That is no bad thing.

I love this forum precisely because of the varied information and advice that is shared. It was a valid place to post the article as it was about FF.

3cherubs - I accept your intention was to bring some facts to our attention and I thank you for that.

You are very welcome.

 

[Claire788]

Crikey, seems I'm poisoning my child then - confused about how I'm doing bottles..

a) how do I know if the water is 70 degrees?
b) if LO isnt on a routine/ feeding schedule - how do I not keep the bottle for more than 2 hours, but make it hot enough to kill bacteria, and make it in time for him to have?

arggg!! lol

 

[Vici]

I'm with Claire - it was purely fact and nothing to do with being "anti formula". This is the reason I choose to make my bottles using just boiled water, quick cool and pop in fridge. Aside from making up a bottle fresh each time, this is the safest method to use. Can't remember who it was who said it but milk being in the fridge def does not produce bacteria, if fact quite the opposite. Room temp and warm milk is what increases bacteria growth

 

[Vici]

Crikey, seems I'm poisoning my child then - confused about how I'm doing bottles..

a) how do I know if the water is 70 degrees?
b) if LO isnt on a routine/ feeding schedule - how do I not keep the bottle for more than 2 hours, but make it hot enough to kill bacteria, and make it in time for him to have?

arggg!! lol

You ensure that powder is added to water that has been boiled and left to stand for no more than 30 mins

If you do not want to make a bottle up each time your LO is hungry (recommended) then you can make up the bottles, quick cool (run under tap or as I do, stand in washing up bowl of cold water with 2 ice packs) and the put at the back of the fridge. This way, any potential bacteria has been killed in the making of formula and action has been taken to minimise any growth of bacteria

 

[OmarsMum]

Crikey, seems I'm poisoning my child then - confused about how I'm doing bottles..

a) how do I know if the water is 70 degrees?
b) if LO isnt on a routine/ feeding schedule - how do I not keep the bottle for more than 2 hours, but make it hot enough to kill bacteria, and make it in time for him to have?

arggg!! lol

I think we'r all poisoning our babies. The tin says 40 degrees & feed it at 37 (body temperature) & this is what I do. I prepare fresh feeds, & follow the tin's instruction. I bet there is no one in this forum who prepares feeds at exactly 70 degrees & give feeds within 2 hrs frm preparation. or am I wrong??

 

[sobersadie]

What a pile of crap! No food or drink is sterile - are you not planning on feeding your child anything but breastmilk for the rest of its life?? Im sick of hearing how baby milk is contaminated / not sterile etc if it was that bad / dangerous it wouldnt be sold plus i have FF all 3 of my children and they have rarely had anything more than a cold and are all healthy thriving children.

 

[OmarsMum]

What a pile of crap! No food or drink is sterile - are you not planning on feeding your child anything but breastmilk for the rest of its life?? Im sick of hearing how baby milk is contaminated / not sterile etc if it was that bad / dangerous it wouldnt be sold plus i have FF all 3 of my children and they have rarely had anything more than a cold and are all healthy thriving children.

loooooooool. I dunno why I'm imagining myself sterilizing a banana

 

[Claire788]

LOL, I'm SO tempted to stick a banana in the microwave steralizer for 4 mins to see what happens!!