Hysteroscopy remove polyp/laparascopy to unblock tubes,outcome p.7,pics p.8

[wannabeprego]

af showed up today knew it was wishful thinking that i would get pregnant 1st cycle after polyp removal.

Awww, I am so sorry hun...Big Hugs to you!!

Good luck and baby dust to you for the next cycle, You still have time hun, since it was only your first cycle!!!

 

[Hope41more]

Hi how you feeling??? My surgery is tomorrow and i am soooo anxious!!! I have not slept a wink and can't sit, keeping myself busy is an understatement. I am more worried about the outcome- whether they can unblock my tubes and what else is going on inside me (They think i might have endo too due to my symptoms) than the surgery itself. Not that i am looking forward to it but know it has to be done or there is no chance of having a baby!!!

 

[wannabeprego]

Hi how you feeling??? My surgery is tomorrow and i am soooo anxious!!! I have not slept a wink and can't sit, keeping myself busy is an understatement. I am more worried about the outcome- whether they can unblock my tubes and what else is going on inside me (They think i might have endo too due to my symptoms) than the surgery itself. Not that i am looking forward to it but know it has to be done or there is no chance of having a baby!!!

Hi hun, I am doing much better today. I hve finished out my antibiotics and I am not very soar anymore. I did have fluid coming from my belly button for about 3 days after the surgery and I had to keep a bandage on it and keep it covered and clean during that time. I also had a big bruise below my belly button but it is starting to lighten up a little bit more. My belly button was soar for a while also, but they should give you RX pain meds for that, I only needed the RX pain meds for a few days, and than I was on extra strength tyelnol for a few days after that. I dont need any pain meds now though. I am having weird spotting for about 4 days now though, rusty brown blood, light brown blood and then red blood, but no full flow AF yet, so I am not sure what is going on and whether or not AF has arrived or what i going on!!


Good luck with your surgery tomorrow!!! I will be thinking of you and hoping for the best possible outcome!!! I hope you have a quick and speedy recovery!!! Big hugs to you hun, you will be okay!!lPease come back and update to let us know how it goes!!! It isn't that bad, they will out you to sleep and before you know it you wake up and it is all done!! IT will be worth it once you get your BFP!!!

 

[wannabeprego]

Hi girls,

What was your AF cycle ike afte your laparascopy/hysterscopy surgery??? I have been having spotting, for about 4 days now,light brown blood, rusty brown blood, and red spotting, but no full flow AF yet?? Can anyone share with me what their AF cycle was like after?? Thanks!!!

 

[Hope41more]

I think it spotting/ bleeding you are having is due to the surgery. Your insides will be cleaning themselves out and healing themselves to make way for your baby!! Do you know when your period is due??? I know its not the same but when i had my HSG i had bleeding then spotting for a good few days. My first period was 3days early and very painful, 2nd on time and 3rd one late. I'm normally like clock work but if you add all my days up came to same value. All my periods since HSG have been painful and heavier, had to go to A&E with 2nd one and they have given me tablets to take on days 1-5 of my period. HSG was very painful prob due to my blocked tubes.
Are the cuts they made during your surgery very small and how many did they do? Had lap before 14yrs ago only tiny cut in in belly button but the air left inside was torture!! Hope it's not as bad this time. I cannot believe my 13wk wait will be up in a few hrs. I am so scared of the outcome and the emotions that will follow. I hate TTC it's like a rollercoaster in every way. At the moment am at the awful sickness stage and want to get off!!!

 

[wannabeprego]

I think it spotting/ bleeding you are having is due to the surgery. Your insides will be cleaning themselves out and healing themselves to make way for your baby!! Do you know when your period is due??? I know its not the same but when i had my HSG i had bleeding then spotting for a good few days. My first period was 3days early and very painful, 2nd on time and 3rd one late. I'm normally like clock work but if you add all my days up came to same value. All my periods since HSG have been painful and heavier, had to go to A&E with 2nd one and they have given me tablets to take on days 1-5 of my period. HSG was very painful prob due to my blocked tubes.
Are the cuts they made during your surgery very small and how many did they do? Had lap before 14yrs ago only tiny cut in in belly button but the air left inside was torture!! Hope it's not as bad this time. I cannot believe my 13wk wait will be up in a few hrs. I am so scared of the outcome and the emotions that will follow. I hate TTC it's like a rollercoaster in every way. At the moment am at the awful sickness stage and want to get off!!!

Big hugs to you hun!!! Your surgery wll be just fine and you are going to be alright!!!

My AF is pretty much due now, I am on CD 28 based on my normal my cycles and my cycles range from 24 to 33 days. I average out at 28 days though.

That is true that my body is still healing up from the surgery and it may take some time to get back to normal I imagine!!

 

[wannabeprego]

AF fnally arrived full flow lastnight!!! However, I am so glad that my 4 days of spotting finally lead to full flow AF because I was tired of being in limbo land for so long!! The surgery was most ikely why I was spotting, because I don't normally spot like that. I am happy that AF finally arived though because it will be my first cycle since the surgery so I am hopeful that I can get my BFP this cycle and that the surgery is just what I needed!!! I am excitd about my September cycle and ready to move onto TTC again!!

I have 50 mg of clomid that I am probably going to take for this cycle so please wish me luck!!!

 

[Hope41more]

Hi had my surgery yest. my surgeon has confidence she would unblock them as the blockage on hsg was at proximal end.
Unfortunatly she did not even attempt to unblock them.... she found my tubes to be twisted and i have grade 3 tubal block with severe adhesions and the nurse mentioned that something was suck to my plevic wall which prob explains the pain i have. A consultant had gone home when i came too but is ringing me monday to explain more.
Totally devastated so much so my heart rate plumetted on the ward, anesthetist had to come and give me something through my iv and put it down to how upset i was and how anxious i have been. Not in good way today the gas is killing me, mostly in my upper chest and right shoulder.
Good luck with your trying this month and hope you get your BFP. x

 

[wannabeprego]

Hi had my surgery yest. my surgeon has confidence she would unblock them as the blockage on hsg was at proximal end.
Unfortunatly she did not even attempt to unblock them.... she found my tubes to be twisted and i have grade 3 tubal block with severe adhesions and the nurse mentioned that something was suck to my plevic wall which prob explains the pain i have. A consultant had gone home when i came too but is ringing me monday to explain more.
Totally devastated so much so my heart rate plumetted on the ward, anesthetist had to come and give me something through my iv and put it down to how upset i was and how anxious i have been. Not in good way today the gas is killing me, mostly in my upper chest and right shoulder.
Good luck with your trying this month and hope you get your BFP. x

Awww, oh no hun, I am so sorry the surgery didn't result in good news!!!Big hugs to you hun.

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I hope you have a quick and pain free recovery!! Please make sure you take your pain medications and take it easy over the next couple of days!!

Are you in the USA or overseas? Is IVF going to be an option for you hun? You dont need your tubes to be able to do IVF. Once again I am so sorry about the bad news from the surgery, my heart goes out to you!!!

 

[kcarey77]

Hi had my surgery yest. my surgeon has confidence she would unblock them as the blockage on hsg was at proximal end.
Unfortunatly she did not even attempt to unblock them.... she found my tubes to be twisted and i have grade 3 tubal block with severe adhesions and the nurse mentioned that something was suck to my plevic wall which prob explains the pain i have. A consultant had gone home when i came too but is ringing me monday to explain more.
Totally devastated so much so my heart rate plumetted on the ward, anesthetist had to come and give me something through my iv and put it down to how upset i was and how anxious i have been. Not in good way today the gas is killing me, mostly in my upper chest and right shoulder.
Good luck with your trying this month and hope you get your BFP. x

Sorry to hear your tubes were not unblocked. Endo will make your organd stick to one another and having a baby is virtually impossible unless it is taken care of. Did your Dr. do that? Lysis of adhesions is necessary during a lap if you're TTC.
Your experince sounds a lot like mine. I was so upset I kept asking them to explain it to me again in detail, I just couldnt comprehend my tubes were blocked. Mine are at the distal end which is not as easy to unblock. I never got a reason why my tubes were blocked either. I am stuck in limbo waiting to get the courage to get another horrible hSG to see if they are still blocked. I had them temporarily opened during my lap but since the surgeon was just my OBGYN and not an RE, He was limited with what he could do (expertise). Boy, if I could turn back time I would.
I hope you get good news on Monday.

 

[Hope41more]

Thanks girls, i live in the UK and my surgery was done on the NHS. My surgeon did say she had worked in the private sector and also told me whatever she found in there she would try and sort ie endo to be removed if she found any etc. But from what nurse said i think she has done nothing so going through this pain after surgery for nothing!! I am 35 and already have 3teenage daughters to my ex husband they are 15,16 & 17. I had a awful marriage he even wanted me to abort my youngest when we found out we were having another girl- even booked a 20wk abortion but i refused to do it. He has not seen the girls in 13yrs. Thus i have never had the fairy tale of bringing up a baby with the man i love and all those lovely memories and milestones. I have a partner of 11yrs who i'm desperate to have a baby with but as he has a teenage daughter himself and has not been as keen even though i know he'd make an amazing dad. I know he's scared of being hurt again as he has gone through a lot to get access etc I told him it was over last night as i have no one to share this shearing heartache with. I feel so alone Only close family know and that was only due to my partner telling them as i was inconsolable after my HSG. I have told none of my friends infact cut myself off from them since my HSG as i needed time to come to terms with everything. Plus they have small children that have been conceived and born while i have been trying (they never knew i was) I am usually an open book but girls can be nasty and say insensitive things or you can misinterprut things yourself and i want to be in control of my infertility. I want people to be natural round me without saying hurtful things or even worse asking if i am ok or everyones eyes on me. Sorry for going on i have never really vented before. No one understands how i feel. Yes i am truely grateful for having my girls and nature is so cruel i feel pregnant twice while using contraception so there is only 2yrs and 3mths between my girls and i could not drive at the time. bringing up a newborn a 12mth old and a 2yr old on your own with no support or husband was hard and lonely. I could not take them swimming (not enough hands) or ride a bike with a baby seat etc I always said i would love another when the girls got older so i could do all the things i couldn't do. All i ever wanted was to get married and bring up childern with the one i loved. I will never have that fairy tale now and i am gutted.

 

[wannabeprego]

@Hope41more, I am so sorry that you have been through so much lately hun!!!

I don't blame you for being angry with your DR that did the surgery because they didn't remove your endo, scar tissue when she was in there since it may be beneficial to you down the road!!! I am sorry your DR didn't do a very good job!!!

Since you are in the UK, can you look into going private and save up to do IVF one day outside of the NHS. I know that the NHS has certain rules and I am assuming that you aren't eligile for them to fund your IVF??? I am glad to hear that you have a loving man in your life now hun. I wish you all the best in the future!!

 

[kcarey77]

I would be livid if I had to endure that pain of a lap and not have anything to show for it! Your DR better have a good explanation as to why nothing was done. What a waste of time and money!
I assume you don't qualify for IVF funding because you already have 3 children, right?
Did I read correctly that last night you told your BF of several years it was over? I can relate to a lot of what you're going through. Although, I do not have kids, I do know what it is like to be alone and frustrated with why you can't conceive. Most of us on here can relate to a certain degree. I too am 35 and am not getting any younger. I live in the US so infertility is not covered, it's very expensive and I dont have the $15K to have a baby so I must go without for now. It's stressful and has put a huge strain on my marriage. We are on the verge of a divorce. Sometimes I wonder if we are just not meant to be together and maybe that is why God is not giving me/us children right now.
It does not help that both my tubes are severely occluded...
I knew since I was about 20 that I couldnt have kids. Never on birthcontrol and in long term relationships that never resulted in a pregnancy while all my friends were either having kids or having abortions. Which I do not condone unless you are a child that was raped. Anyway, I wanted to let you know that you are not alone. Most of us feel the same way you do which is why we are on this website, it's to support one another during this difficult time.
I hope all you ladies get your BFP soon!

 

[Hope41more]

Hi girls, Thanks for the acceptance. I was scared to tell my story as i find on a lot of the threads girls can say insensitive things or are not very accepting of girls with secondary infertility. Odd really when they complain about others being insensitive to them. We all have our own journey and like you mention it is hard no matter what our individual circumstances.
Well i have loads of news none good unfortunatly. To start my consultant rand on monday, she found my tubes to be pulled up and away from my ovaries and stuck to my pelvic wall. There was a lot of scar tissue and she was shocked to find they were blocked proximally and distally There was no endo. Only good news is she said my uterus and ovaries were perfect.
I was not happy to find she did no work in there. She knows i am in a lot of pain and said she would remove anything she found. I did not think that was a prerequisite only if she could unblocking my tubes!! She has took photos and is willing to see me and to talk to me more. She has said IVF is my only option and as i have 3children to my ex i am not allowed IVF on the NHS. So my only hope is trying to get one round of egg share in before i turn 36 (in 5mths).
Well here is the BIG BOMBSHELL!!!! I told my partner of 11yrs that my consultant said i am a perfect candidate for IVF as my ovaries and uterus are perfect. That i was going to ring a few clinics about egg share. His response I DON'T WANT A BABY!!!!! I was like what????? I had surgery on fri to try and unblock my tubes, we have been using no contraception for over 2yrs, you have been to see fertility specialist with me, you have even given a semen analysis!!!!!!! I have always known he was not overly keen and has been swapping and changing his mind but WHAT!!!! You wait till i have surgery to tell me this???
We have completly broke up he has said he loves me and wants to be with me but does not want a baby with me!!!!! I am completly heart broken.
I am now thinking did he have a SA to make sure it was not him so he knew he could have children with someone else??? Has he hung around to be nosey so that he knows i am completly infertile unless i have IVF??? I want him to drop down dead right now. To make matters worse he promised he would not tell anyone about my struggle (like i mentioned before i myself have told no one, he knows he strong i feel about this) yet to top it off he had not cut his phone off yest and i over heard him having a conversation with someone. Which included them saying all i wanted was his SPERM!!! It went on for 30mins and lots of heartbreaking things were said inc them telling him to cut my kids out of his life!!! I feel so betrayed on so many levels
My childern have called this man Dad for over 11yrs, they have not seen there biological father for nearly 13yrs. My life is such a mess, im not sleeping having anxiety/panic attacks and to make everthing worse i cannot keep myself busy as i am in so much pain after the surgery.
I am so devastated- im a lonely, old infertile woman

 

[Hope41more]

Sorry for being selfish and just posting about me- Too upset.

Kcarey77 - Do not think that you are not meant to be with your husband because you have not conceived. As you said you had this struggle before you met him so i promise this is not the case. Your tubes are blocked and as i see it you cannot meet each other through the tunnel so you need to take the bridge.
I hope you don't mind me saying but i did a lot of research on tubal surgery and found even if they could unblock them it did not uncessarily mean they would work. They could be too damaged inside before the surgery or because of the surgery.
Are you saving up for IVf? Have you thought about freezing your eggs or does that cost a lot too? (Have not looked into that myself)
I hope you and your partner get through this and get your dream baby. xxx

Wannabepreggo- How you feeling? I hope you get your BFP this month. xxx

 

[wannabeprego]

@Hope, I am so sorry that things aren't going very well with you and your OH. Big hugs to you hun!!!

Did you try to ask him why he has changed his mind about having a baby and why he has had a sudden change of heart?? I really hope that the two of you can work through your differences and that things can get better for you both.

You aren't old hun, I am turning 33 this year myself. With the medical technology they have now you can have a baby with medical assistance well into your mid 40's and older. That is terrible though about the time frames you are allowed with the egg sharing and the age cut off limit because I know that affects you time frames for participating in the egg share program.

It is okay to vent hun, we are here and willing to listen!!!

AFM, I am doing alright I am healing up well, and DH & me are TTC this cycle natural without fertility meds, because my cycle was weird after the surgery, and I wanted to give my body a chance to heal. We are going to try a few cycles of clomid and timed sex and then move onto IUI. I am keeping IVF and ICSI as an option because my DH has a low sperm count, but we are working towards being able to afford it and need to save up more $$ before we can move forward with it, but I am hoping and praying that I can get pregnant before it comes down to us doing IVF because of the high costs.

 

[kcarey77]

Sorry for being selfish and just posting about me- Too upset.

Kcarey77 - Do not think that you are not meant to be with your husband because you have not conceived. As you said you had this struggle before you met him so i promise this is not the case. Your tubes are blocked and as i see it you cannot meet each other through the tunnel so you need to take the bridge.
I hope you don't mind me saying but i did a lot of research on tubal surgery and found even if they could unblock them it did not uncessarily mean they would work. They could be too damaged inside before the surgery or because of the surgery.
Are you saving up for IVf? Have you thought about freezing your eggs or does that cost a lot too? (Have not looked into that myself)
I hope you and your partner get through this and get your dream baby. xxx

Wannabepreggo- How you feeling? I hope you get your BFP this month. xxx

I sincerely appreciate your advise. DH and I had a very long and over due talk last night and although he said he understands what Im going through, he doesnt. He can leave me and go to another woman who can give him children.. He CHOOSES not to. I didnt CHOOSE to be infertile. We have agreed to go to counseling and work out our marriage. I sure hope it works because if it doesnt, I can't have a baby on my own..lol.

I'm so sorry to hear about you BF not wanting to have kids and the betrayal you had to endure. What a son-of-a-witch! He could have told you this BEFORE you had to go through that awful surgery. I hope you can find peace in your heart and happiness in your life. Hang in there, hun. It will get better in time.
You are absolutely correct about the Fimbrioplasty. The fimbriae are so sensitive that if destroyed, I could be left with blocked tubes and no baby ever. Scar tissue is a big factor as well. Most Surgeons are being trained to go straight to IVF instead of learning the proper surgeries to correct tubal factor infertility and it's very sad. I am not saving for IVF because there is no guarantee it will work and then I'm out $14,000. IVF Guarantees are based on age (38 or younger) and is $28,000. I cant come up with that money.
We will just have to pray for a miracle until we find a specialist in tubal repair and hope for the best. If it's not meant to be, then it's just not meant to be. There is a reason I can't have kids and I pray to God that I find out why one day. I can always adopt in the state of Florida it's very inexpensive if you want foster kids, they would be older (no babies) and may come with siblings or behavior disorders, but I could always be a "mother"...We can all be a "mother" to kids in need if we want to.
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[Hope41more]

Kcarey-
I am so glad you have had a talk with your OH and are going for counseling. My consultant told me she is trained to fix severe tubal block but is not allowed to do it no more due to tighter regulations. She siad if it did work (slim due to damage in the tubes) then there is a 99% chance of eptopic pregnancy. So does your health insurance cover tubal surgery but not fertility treatment ie IVF?
I completly understand if you cannot afford IVF, i am in the same position (well was before partner left!) but please be aware that women with tubal factor infertility alone have very high success rates with IVF. We are the best candidates for IVF!!
Let me get this right you have to pay to foster kids??? In the uk it is free to adopt but very long process but you actually get paid to foster kids even babies. I don't think i could do it as it would kill me to hand them back.
I totally understand how you feel we do not choose to be infertile and we get very insecure that our partners will leave us for someone who is. If the tables were turned i bet you would not leave your partner for someone who was fertile??? Problem is no matter what the rational it does not stop our insecurities and our fears. It then puts a huge strain on our relationships.
I think you will make an amazing mother. I don't want to offend anyone but in my opinion we cannot rely on God or fate to give us a child. In our case we have a biological reason for not conceiving. It is not a sign you should not be with your husband just sheer misfortune. xxx

 

[Hope41more]

wannabe prego-

Good luck with trying naturally this cycle. I sure hope it works for you and you get a BFP. You deserve it hun!!
My OH or ex OH as it stands does not want the responsibility of another child, does not want the sleepless nights, says he was just going alone for me as he knew i wanted it so much!!! As i mentioned before I was so heartbroken and in such a state after operation my heart rate just kept plummeting.... the more i asked for answers the worse it got and the more they got scared to tell me (consultant had gone home). If he cared about me let alone loved me how could he put me through this??? I'm convined he wants a younger fertile woman.
I'm in such a state im not functioning properly...constant panic attacks and cannot sleep

 

[AO1981]

Hi ladies, I am new here. I would like to join on this thread if you don't mind. I do have the same situation like you guys. I will be 32 yrs old next week and my husband is 42.
I was diagnosed with bilateral tubal blockage with hydrosalpinges on July 2013 during my HSG. It was devastating. I cried for days, been depressed for 4 months now. I also had polypectomy done on the same month. My ObGyn only found one tiny polyp. The cause of my blockage on both tubes was amoeba. I got amoeba from water (I think) when I was out of the country 5 yrs ago. I was admitted in the hospital for 5 days. Was given 3 types of strong antibiotics 2 intravenously and one oral. It was so severe. It affected my tubes. I don't have lap done yet but I know I have so many scarring inside because of the amoeba. Based on my HSG my RE told me that the only way is IVF. We can't afford IVF. My insurance covers $15,000 and then the rest is out of pocket. I'm not sure if IVF here in California is more expensive than other state. I called my RE and asked her if she can fix my tubes before jumping to IVF. She scheduled me for a follow up consult. She said that she will bring up my case to other RE and see what they can do. I hope she can do fimbrioplasty. Based on what I researched most young RE now have no experience in performing fimbrioplasty because of the IVF. I hope there's another RE that is under my insurance that can fix my tubes.
Does anyone here who have hydrosalpinx....has pelvic pain? They said most women do not have symptoms but I have been suffering pelvic pain since early this year. I thought it will go away but it's getting worse.
I really wanted to have lap done and really see what's going on inside. My period is getting less and less. Since Jan 2013 I have 5-6 days spotting before my period. My period only last for 1.5 days and then 5-6 days spotting again. Before, my period is 3-5 days. I don't know what's the cause of this. They didn't see any fibroid or endometriosis during my ultrasound, HSG or even during polypectomy. This is just making me stress every cycle.
I don't want my RE to remove my tubes. If they can't fix it, our 2nd option is adoption. For now, I am just waiting for my appointment on Nov. 21st.
Good luck to all of us