Hysteroscopy remove polyp/laparascopy to unblock tubes,outcome p.7,pics p.8

[scerena]

How exciting i really do wish you luck! We have been on such a similar journey it would be great to see some after these ops! Im so glad i had mine done x

 

[wannabeprego]

Just a quick update for anyone still following this thread. I have decided to do both surgeries to make sure that I have the best possible chance of getting my BFP. I need to know that i did everything in my power to get pregnant for peace of mind and also because if I have both tubes open I know my fertility goes up as well.

My surgery is scheduled for March 6th at 1p.m.....Wish me luck girls... i am nervous but i know that it will all be worth it when I get my BFP!!!

 

[Baby_Fever]

I didn't have either of these procedures but something called a Tubal Cannulation to remove a blockage in my left fallopian tube. It was very similar to an HSG but instead of dye they insert a little camera and a tool called a cannula to remove the blockage. It was more complicated than my HSG in some ways - I had to book it on CD1 and actually had to be admitted to the hospital and had an IV started in my hand and then they wheeled me down to the room where it was done and they actually gave me some sedative to help me relax etc. The best news, they removed the blockage and it was over with faster than it took them to get me into the procedure room in the first place and back up to the IV room where I had to sit for another hour before they released me.

 

[scerena]

Good luck hunni
Any questions you have please feel free to message me any time I can advise you as much as I can xxx

 

[wannabeprego]

Good luck hunni
Any questions you have please feel free to message me any time I can advise you as much as I can xxx

Thanks Scerena!!!

One quick question, How soar was your belly from the incisions, Did it hurt to cough, laugh, sit up and sit down etc...???

When I had my laparascopic surgery to get my gall bladder out my belly was pretty soar for almost a week, but I have a pretty big incision at the top of my belly from where they pulled out my gall bladder and I think that was the most painful incision because of it's size. My gall bladder was enlarged because it was infected and was filled with stones, so it was bigger than normal...

My Dr. is calling me tomorrow and I am going to ask her a bunch of questions than also.

 

[scerena]

Yes everytime my mum and oh made me laugh i had to tell them to stop its more uncomfortable than painful i would try stop myself from sneezing also lol!

Im not going to lie i found it slightly painful for about 2 days then it was just uncomfortable but i hardly needed pain meds after first couple of days... I prob didnt need them but kept myself dosed up for them two days... I was lucky not to get the shoulder pain from the gas but peppermint tea is meant to help with that

So when is your pre op assessment? Are you ok or nervous?xx

 

[wannabeprego]

Yes everytime my mum and oh made me laugh i had to tell them to stop its more uncomfortable than painful i would try stop myself from sneezing also lol!

Im not going to lie i found it slightly painful for about 2 days then it was just uncomfortable but i hardly needed pain meds after first couple of days... I prob didnt need them but kept myself dosed up for them two days... I was lucky not to get the shoulder pain from the gas but peppermint tea is meant to help with that

So when is your pre op assessment? Are you ok or nervous?xx

I am nervous because surgery is always scary because of the possible complications that can occur, but I know complications are like 1 in 1000 according to the literature my DR gave me. Plus my DR has done these operations hundreds of times before so I know I have experienced Dr's doing the surgery which helps with putting my mind at ease.

But there is a big part of me that knows that I have to do this if I want my BFP since it has been over 2 years since DH's VR and my issues are obviously contributing to why we havent gotten our BFP yet in addition to DH's low sperm count. So ultimately I just know that it is what I have to do if I ever want a baby of my own.

 

[scerena]

Hun that is a perfectly normal feeling to have, I was exactly the same- very nervous, but like you I was confident with the surgeon I had.

The exact same reason I had to do mine was to make sure it increased our chances I am so happy to have two clear tubes instead of one now... My oh's last count was 34mil but I dont know what the next one will be its scary the not knowing... But we will see soon I guess, what was your oh's last count again?x

 

[wannabeprego]

@Scerena, Yeah, along with my nervous feelings I also am excited about the possibilities it opens up for us to finally get pregnant, so it is like mixed emotions. His last count went up from the first SA he had and so did his motility, It went up just enough to make us eligible to do IUI so the increase made a huge difference for us and we had him on vitamins before the second SA. His first SA was less than 5 million count and 36% motility, and his second SA was a count of 6.5 million and 65% motility, and the fertility DR wanted a minimum of 5 to 10 million for us to be able to do the IUI.

So my DR called me back this morning, and of course i was half asleep since she woke me up and i could barely think straight, But she gave me another option to try to repeat the HSG to try to see if we can open the other tube again, But this time I would be on muscle relaxers and a volume to calm me down to see if that helps. But, I am not sure if my health insurance would cover the same procedure a second time so soon after the first one was done. Plus i had a really ruff time with my first HSG, it was horrible for me to be honest and the thought of redoing it isnt wonderful, but at the same time I could maybe avoid getting my belly cut into with the lap surgery, so now I have another option to obsess over and drive myself totally batty with!!! The DR. suggested I call and schedule the HSG now before the surgery if I want to try that first, but I dont know, I am so confused. The one tube that is possibly blocked, if there is a blockage and it didnt just spasm had the dye flow through the first part of the tube alright, it just never came out the end, so if there is a blockage than it is at the top of the tube which would require a lap to unblock it for the DR to be able to see where the blockage is at the top of the tube... And that is assuming the tube is even blocked in the first place....

Of course the DR reminded me that I can just do the hysteroscopy and that I only need one tube open to be able to do IUI so the lap is of course optional, but of course my odds of pregnancy are increased with two open tubes.. Lordy i am going to go batty with this whole thing....

I really wish that it was standard to give a person muscle relaxers and volume before the HSG all of the time because I hear so many stories like mine with the tube maybe spasming or being blocked....etc.... I would of taken meds with my HSG for sure because I was a nervous wreck before mine.... lordy...

 

[scerena]

Im sorry that you're faced with a dilemma again hun My hsg was terrible and I wouldnt want to do it a second time, but now I would as the tube is unblocked, I believe my pain was from my tube spasming- (They said mine was spasming/blocked). Did they say it would be alot less painful with the muscle relaxers???

Yes your chances of pregnancy are definately increased with two tubes, I am personally very happy that I went ahead with the op to be honest as I knew 100% if my tube was blocked or not they got the blockage out and done the hysteroscopy and ovarian drilling all in one procedure.

What option are swaying towards- the hsg and hysteroscopy or the laparoscopy and hysteroscopy???
x

 

[wannabeprego]

Im sorry that you're faced with a dilemma again hun My hsg was terrible and I wouldnt want to do it a second time, but now I would as the tube is unblocked, I believe my pain was from my tube spasming- (They said mine was spasming/blocked). Did they say it would be alot less painful with the muscle relaxers???

Yes your chances of pregnancy are definately increased with two tubes, I am personally very happy that I went ahead with the op to be honest as I knew 100% if my tube was blocked or not they got the blockage out and done the hysteroscopy and ovarian drilling all in one procedure.

What option are swaying towards- the hsg and hysteroscopy or the laparoscopy and hysteroscopy???
x

The thought of repeating the HSG is pretty horrible to be honest. Although I know with that shortly after I am back to normal and wont be soar anymore like I would be with surgery.

I didnt ask if taking the muscle relaxers would help with the pain at all during the HSG... I never thought of asking.... hmmm.... so I am not sure...

I think right now I am leaning towards just doing the two surgeries, lap and hysteroscopy and just getting it all done and taken care of all at once.

I would hate to repeat the HSG and than have it still be blocked... what a pain that would be, and than still need to do surgery after anyways... I swear it feels like a roll of the dice and playing the odds.. I just cant be sure what the actual issues is so I feel like I am guessing right now...

But, at least with the Lap there is almost a gurantee that they can unblock the tube because they can see what is going on at the top of my tube and I can be back to normal again hopefully after..

 

[scerena]

So confusing for you bless ya!
I agree that by having the op it will be over and done with in one go... I would ask the fs a little more about the hsg and what they think, but like you said the blockage could be somewhere that the hsg cannot clear... But if they recon a hsg might help then there is a quicker recovery...

I hope you make a decision soon bless as they keep giving you all these options which must be making things very confusing for you right now

The operations were my best ever decisions I made as I know my tube was blocked and they unblocked it thankfully instead of the constant worry as to wether it was blocked or spasming x

 

[wannabeprego]

@Scerena, Thanks for the advice and for listening to my concerns hun..

I think that since we already have DH's low count as one strike against us, I think I really need to get that second tube for sure open to help get the odds back in my favor, With only one open tube and a low count I am sure it lowers our odds alot because than it means I am not at my full fertility potential, so I think I am going to just go ahead with both surgeries as planned and just get it taken care of... Plus in the future I want to try to have more than one baby so I need to think about my over all fertility for the long haul as well!!! So right now I feel about 80% sure that I am going to do both surgeries instead of repeating the HSG again.. I do have some time to think about it still but I think it is the best option over all.

 

[wannabeprego]

@Scerena, another quick question.... Where did they make the incisions in your belly and how big where they for the Lap?? Are the cuts noticeable? I know you said they made one in your belly button, but what about the others??

 

[Chels710]

I had a polyp removed in August of 2011. My RE thought that this was the reason I had been ttc for so long without a positive result. (still waiting for my bfp, however.) The procedure really wasn't that bad. It was done as an outpatient surgery and the worst part about the whole thing was the anesthesia. I just don't react to it very well. The procedure itself was almost nothing. I was back at work the next day- though still a little tired. The lap will probably have you out for a week or so. Good luck with both of the procedures. I really hope that this is what you need to get your bfp!!

 

[scerena]

Yes great decision I also thought the same- best to get it done and then hopefully we wont have the same problems when we ttc number 2...
Yes my oh has problems with his counts so I understand you wanting to make the best of the situation.

I dont even know- sounds stupid right- its kind of in my bellybutton lol, then I have one on my bikini line/pelvis and one on my side near the bone... but I had 3 surgeries done so not sure where your other one will be. When will you have your pre-op assessment?
The cuts are tiny... and I reacon in a couple of years they wont even be noticiable they look kind of like a little scratch x

 

[wannabeprego]

Yes great decision I also thought the same- best to get it done and then hopefully we wont have the same problems when we ttc number 2...
Yes my oh has problems with his counts so I understand you wanting to make the best of the situation.

I dont even know- sounds stupid right- its kind of in my bellybutton lol, then I have one on my bikini line/pelvis and one on my side near the bone... but I had 3 surgeries done so not sure where your other one will be. When will you have your pre-op assessment?
The cuts are tiny... and I reacon in a couple of years they wont even be noticiable they look kind of like a little scratch x

Thanks for the info hun....

 

[wannabeprego]

Yes great decision I also thought the same- best to get it done and then hopefully we wont have the same problems when we ttc number 2...
Yes my oh has problems with his counts so I understand you wanting to make the best of the situation.

I dont even know- sounds stupid right- its kind of in my bellybutton lol, then I have one on my bikini line/pelvis and one on my side near the bone... but I had 3 surgeries done so not sure where your other one will be. When will you have your pre-op assessment?
The cuts are tiny... and I reacon in a couple of years they wont even be noticiable they look kind of like a little scratch x

Thanks for the info hun....I dont think I have a pre-op appointment. i do have to go for blood work before the surgery though. I think any questions that I have will be answered before I go in and actually have the surgery. If I had any other questions I know I can call my DR's office and she will call me back to answer them in the mean time.

Thats good to know that the incisions are so small that you can barely even see the cuts now. I think my incisions from my lap to remove my gall bladder were much larger and therefore a more painful recovery. So that makes me feel better to hear that!!!

 

[scerena]

Yes the incisions are not massive at all so you do not have much to worry about... Recovery is 1 week maybe two, im sure you will be fine hun

And any other questions you have dont hesitate to ask me x

 

[kcarey77]

Thanks for the advice girls, and for sharing your stories with me!! I am also glad that although most of you girls admit it is painful you feel it was worth it to move forward and improve your fertility and chances of getting pregnant. I am sending good luck and tons of baby dust your way, I hope all of you lovely ladies get your BFP's soon!!!

In addition to my problems DH has a low sperm count from getting his vasectomy reversal. So throw in my one blocked tube, and the polyp in my uterus and the 2 of us are a mess.. So part of me wants to have the best chance possible to get pregnant with 2 open tubes, But another part of my just wants to do the hysteroscopy because it has the quicker recovery and I know technically i only need one tube open for IUI or to get pregnant. But on the other hand I know two tubes increases our chances of getting pregnant, and I eventually want more than one child so I need to think about the long term benefits on my fertility for today and the future... I also need to talk to my DR's billing office about the costs for both procedures versus just doing the hysteroscopy by itself. My insurance has a 350 deductible and i pay 15% after that so I need to keep in my the out of pocket costs in mind as well. I also need to do research on my own which will hopefully help me make a final decision.

I had my gall bladder removed a little over a year ago and they removed it laparascopically so I have scars on my belly from that, they went in through the belly button and I have 2 small scars from the cuts on the right side of my belly and than at the top of my stomach I have a larger cut where they pulled out my gall bladder, The healing process was about a week for the pain in my belly to go away, it was soar when i stood up, sat down, coughed, laughed, etc.... The pain meds were a god send though and made it bearable to when i was home, plus they made me sleepy so i slept through alot of the pain in the beginning because I was doped up on medications. Long story short it wasnt that bad. Plus DH was wonderful and waited on me on hand and foot the entire time. By 2 weeks I was almost back to my old self just about.

Where you girls as soar as what I am describing in your bellies from your laps???

I, too, had my gallbladder out 2/2011 and a diagnostic laparoscopy done 2/12. The surgeon went right through my naval, same incision as gallbladder. Lap was a breeze. The worse part is the CO2 gas afterwards, the pressure was terrible. I was back to normal after 48 hrs. My lap left me with tubal factor infertility. Both tubes were blocked and bilateral hemorrgatic cysts were removed from both distal ends. It will be a very difficult road for me to have children, but IVF is not an option for us. We are trying naturally and if it shall be it will be. If you haven't already, get the lap! I was misdiagnosed with my HSG and I was told my tubes were open, we missed over a year of TTC with blocked tubes! The best thing you can do it let them get inside you and find out what's wrong so it can be fixed. Best wishes on the outcome.