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WHOOP WHOOP MERCYME!!!!! :yipee: bloody awesome news!! And possibly twins!!!!! OMG!!!!! our first set of twins on the thread :happydance: wishing you a happy and healthy 8 remaining months :) x x x
 
hello ladies :) x x x x x wowsers! Has been a busy week!

Isi - so sorry for you news hun x x x thinking of you

Sammy - sounds like you have had one hell of week hun with one thing and another, i hope you're well this weekend and will be thinking of you monday x x x

maxxi - 5 fertilised, good number hun :thumbup: :) x x

megg - hope you're doing well hun x x x

mrs-g - hope you had a good week away hun :) x x

x x x x

Thanks hun... im just cleaning the house from top to bottom. I know i wont have chance next week now so want to get all my stressful stuff out of the way so that I can relax next week and take it easy... How are things with you? Good I hope! Baby is cooking nicely too! :thumbup:
 
sammy, you would not believe how much i'm rooting for you and your ET hun. Getting stressful out the way sounds like a top plan. And then rest chick - conserve your energy!!!!

AFM - still in bed :blush: very :sick: and ridiculously :sleep: !!! I think it's the meds making it all so much worse. I'm strugglin to find anything i can actually eat! i wandered around asda yesterday morning looking at everything hoping something would drag my appetite out of hiding. only thing - mars milk drink :dohh: have been discharged from the IVF clinic now i've passed the 8 week mark - they're happy with development and heartbeat, and have put me as june 29th EDD. only a few more weeks on meds and i can come off them and hopefully not feel as rough!!! x x x x
:hugs: :kiss:
 
Bad news. My embryos are not doing well. They've switched me to a 3 day transfer which will happen tomorrow. I'm devastated. I think everyone thought that I'd do well with this because all my labs, tests, etc were looking wonderful. :cry:
 
Bad news. My embryos are not doing well. They've switched me to a 3 day transfer which will happen tomorrow. I'm devastated. I think everyone thought that I'd do well with this because all my labs, tests, etc were looking wonderful. :cry:

They just need to be back where they are happiest Maxxi. Good luck tomorrow. :hugs:
 
Thanks hun... im just cleaning the house from top to bottom. I know i wont have chance next week now so want to get all my stressful stuff out of the way so that I can relax next week and take it easy...

Yeh, get all the housework out of the way and hopefully your OH will not get on to you for relaxing after transfer. Are you taking time off work next week for a couple of days after transfer Sammy?
 
Hello everyone!!

Official congrats Mercyme!!!! :happydance::happydance::happydance: twins maybe? how exciting, I always wanted twins thought it would be great to be done in one shot. How many embies did they put back in?
again massive congrats hon

Sammy- I agree with MrsF it does sound like your clinic places a lot of decisions on you....aggghh Good luck with the 5 day transfer, are you going to do it Monday then?? will be thinkinng of you and baby dust :dust:

Meggs- our clinic does a lot of 3 embryo transfers as well, they decide based on the patient and their chances of success and embryos ect... A good friend of mine had 3 embies transferred and is pregnant with only one healthy baby (they also did rescue ICSI in her case). Another woman I know had 3 transferred and none of them took unfortunately. Our clinic's goal is also one healthy pregnancy at a time, so I think your FS will guide you the best way at the time. good luck :hugs:

Maxx- sorry to hear of your update news but like someone else said, that just means its time for them to go back in, :hugs: good luck and baby dust :dust:

hello to everyone else, yeah MrsF for being discharged from the clinic :happydance:
 
I hope you girls are right and my clinic will help me make decisions more than I expect they will. I could use their guidance.

Bad news. My embryos are not doing well. They've switched me to a 3 day transfer which will happen tomorrow. I'm devastated. I think everyone thought that I'd do well with this because all my labs, tests, etc were looking wonderful. :cry:

Oh no, honey! :hugs: I hope they grow better when they send them home on day 3. Maybe they just want to be back with their mummy!
 
Bad news. My embryos are not doing well. They've switched me to a 3 day transfer which will happen tomorrow. I'm devastated. I think everyone thought that I'd do well with this because all my labs, tests, etc were looking wonderful. :cry:

WHATTT???? Your not serious! OMG... WHY? Were they doing ok in the beginning? Or were they a little bit iffy from the start? So sorry hun but hey its not over yet! You still have a good chance, right? :hugs::hugs::hugs:
 
Hello everyone!!

Official congrats Mercyme!!!! :happydance::happydance::happydance: twins maybe? how exciting, I always wanted twins thought it would be great to be done in one shot. How many embies did they put back in?
again massive congrats hon

Sammy- I agree with MrsF it does sound like your clinic places a lot of decisions on you....aggghh Good luck with the 5 day transfer, are you going to do it Monday then?? will be thinkinng of you and baby dust :dust:

Meggs- our clinic does a lot of 3 embryo transfers as well, they decide based on the patient and their chances of success and embryos ect... A good friend of mine had 3 embies transferred and is pregnant with only one healthy baby (they also did rescue ICSI in her case). Another woman I know had 3 transferred and none of them took unfortunately. Our clinic's goal is also one healthy pregnancy at a time, so I think your FS will guide you the best way at the time. good luck :hugs:

Maxx- sorry to hear of your update news but like someone else said, that just means its time for them to go back in, :hugs: good luck and baby dust :dust:

hello to everyone else, yeah MrsF for being discharged from the clinic :happydance:


Aww thanks hun.... look at you 8 weeks! Its flown by! Yes Monday we will go in. I have told them if anything severe happens then to call me immediately and I will go in at the drop of a hat for the transfer on whatever day but she said she doesnt think that will be necessary (I hope shes right) and will see me Monday around afternoon time. Dont know exactly what time yet, it depends on their schedules. :hugs:
 
Thanks hun... im just cleaning the house from top to bottom. I know i wont have chance next week now so want to get all my stressful stuff out of the way so that I can relax next week and take it easy...

Yeh, get all the housework out of the way and hopefully your OH will not get on to you for relaxing after transfer. Are you taking time off work next week for a couple of days after transfer Sammy?

Hi hun! Its all done... you could eat your dinner off the floor (he cant whine now if i dont do anything for a few days! a-haaa!) Yes i already took off Monday and Tuesday thinking the transfer might be today but since its Monday then I have taken off Wednesday as well. So, I will relax on Monday, Tues and Weds and back to work Thursday but i have a very stressfree job and no hassle or rushing around so i think i will be ok :hugs:
 
Sammy - Here's what I think. My doc was surprised by the low number of embryos we got in the first place. The thinking was I would get more than 5 so we could take some to blast and do pgd. With my history of miscarriage it's more likely than not that I'm going to get embryos with chromosomal abnormalities. If all 5 hung around till tomorrow they would have taken them to blast and done the pgd and although pgd is not 100% it would have given me a better chance of getting pg and not miscarrying. As of today only 2 or 3 look like they're going to make it to tomorrow (I can't remember which number he said). Because the number of embryos is so low they're going to do a day 3 transfer and no pgd. To me it feels like I'm in the same situation I've been in every month since ttc. I don't know if any will even be around by tomorrow and I don't know what the quality of the embryos will be like. He told me not to feel like my situation is totally hopeless right now but to be honest I don't even feel like doing my progesterone shot tonight. My doc also mentioned that next time around we may have to try different medications. I almost wish we could just start over now.
 
Sammy - Here's what I think. My doc was surprised by the low number of embryos we got in the first place. The thinking was I would get more than 5 so we could take some to blast and do pgd. With my history of miscarriage it's more likely than not that I'm going to get embryos with chromosomal abnormalities. If all 5 hung around till tomorrow they would have taken them to blast and done the pgd and although pgd is not 100% it would have given me a better chance of getting pg and not miscarrying. As of today only 2 or 3 look like they're going to make it to tomorrow (I can't remember which number he said). Because the number of embryos is so low they're going to do a day 3 transfer and no pgd. To me it feels like I'm in the same situation I've been in every month since ttc. I don't know if any will even be around by tomorrow and I don't know what the quality of the embryos will be like. He told me not to feel like my situation is totally hopeless right now but to be honest I don't even feel like doing my progesterone shot tonight. My doc also mentioned that next time around we may have to try different medications. I almost wish we could just start over now.

Crikey..... :nope: Does he know why the quality was not so good?? Did he warn you this might happen? I think you will have at least two to transfer tomorrow by the sounds of it and it only takes one honey. Please take the progesterone injection... dont give up hope its not over! I have seen people have 2 cell embies transfered and get BFP... its not about numbers (as long as you have some to transfer) I have got to the stage now where I dont even care about having any left to freeze. Once upon a time I would have been disappointed not to have any. Its a right lottery no matter what happens. Wishing you all the luck for tomorrow hun... what time you got to be there? :hugs:
 
Sammy - Here's what I think. My doc was surprised by the low number of embryos we got in the first place. The thinking was I would get more than 5 so we could take some to blast and do pgd. With my history of miscarriage it's more likely than not that I'm going to get embryos with chromosomal abnormalities. If all 5 hung around till tomorrow they would have taken them to blast and done the pgd and although pgd is not 100% it would have given me a better chance of getting pg and not miscarrying. As of today only 2 or 3 look like they're going to make it to tomorrow (I can't remember which number he said). Because the number of embryos is so low they're going to do a day 3 transfer and no pgd. To me it feels like I'm in the same situation I've been in every month since ttc. I don't know if any will even be around by tomorrow and I don't know what the quality of the embryos will be like. He told me not to feel like my situation is totally hopeless right now but to be honest I don't even feel like doing my progesterone shot tonight. My doc also mentioned that next time around we may have to try different medications. I almost wish we could just start over now.

Crikey..... :nope: Does he know why the quality was not so good?? Did he warn you this might happen? I think you will have at least two to transfer tomorrow by the sounds of it and it only takes one honey. Please take the progesterone injection... dont give up hope its not over! I have seen people have 2 cell embies transfered and get BFP... its not about numbers (as long as you have some to transfer) I have got to the stage now where I dont even care about having any left to freeze. Once upon a time I would have been disappointed not to have any. Its a right lottery no matter what happens. Wishing you all the luck for tomorrow hun... what time you got to be there? :hugs:


That's the kicker part of it. All my test results from the very extensive work up showed that I had a decent chance at success. Every test they did to assess my uterine lining and egg quality and counts, my response to the stimming meds and I could go on and on were all good. By some freak of nature I think that my doctor will say that somehow those results do not accurately reflect what is going on with me reproductively speaking and so there's going to be a change in my med regimen the next go around. I know I should keep focused on this cycle and that people have gotten their bfps with day 3 transfers but this has truly been a shock to me. I will do the progesterone tonight and hope that I have some embryos in the morning. The ET is scheduled for 10:30. Do you know how long you have to wait before doing a new ivf cycle? There won't be any frozen embryos for me.:nope:
 
Sammy - Here's what I think. My doc was surprised by the low number of embryos we got in the first place. The thinking was I would get more than 5 so we could take some to blast and do pgd. With my history of miscarriage it's more likely than not that I'm going to get embryos with chromosomal abnormalities. If all 5 hung around till tomorrow they would have taken them to blast and done the pgd and although pgd is not 100% it would have given me a better chance of getting pg and not miscarrying. As of today only 2 or 3 look like they're going to make it to tomorrow (I can't remember which number he said). Because the number of embryos is so low they're going to do a day 3 transfer and no pgd. To me it feels like I'm in the same situation I've been in every month since ttc. I don't know if any will even be around by tomorrow and I don't know what the quality of the embryos will be like. He told me not to feel like my situation is totally hopeless right now but to be honest I don't even feel like doing my progesterone shot tonight. My doc also mentioned that next time around we may have to try different medications. I almost wish we could just start over now.

Crikey..... :nope: Does he know why the quality was not so good?? Did he warn you this might happen? I think you will have at least two to transfer tomorrow by the sounds of it and it only takes one honey. Please take the progesterone injection... dont give up hope its not over! I have seen people have 2 cell embies transfered and get BFP... its not about numbers (as long as you have some to transfer) I have got to the stage now where I dont even care about having any left to freeze. Once upon a time I would have been disappointed not to have any. Its a right lottery no matter what happens. Wishing you all the luck for tomorrow hun... what time you got to be there? :hugs:


That's the kicker part of it. All my test results from the very extensive work up showed that I had a decent chance at success. Every test they did to assess my uterine lining and egg quality and counts, my response to the stimming meds and I could go on and on were all good. By some freak of nature I think that my doctor will say that somehow those results do not accurately reflect what is going on with me reproductively speaking and so there's going to be a change in my med regimen the next go around. I know I should keep focused on this cycle and that people have gotten their bfps with day 3 transfers but this has truly been a shock to me. I will do the progesterone tonight and hope that I have some embryos in the morning. The ET is scheduled for 10:30. Do you know how long you have to wait before doing a new ivf cycle? There won't be any frozen embryos for me.:nope:

Maxi Please Please Please DONT give up hope, as difficult as it is right now.

I have a million things I want to tell you right now to help you - I know that none of them might help - but I am still going to say a few.

1. My cycle was similar to yours in that everything seemed to go perfectly - until I got to fertilization and it was a shock even to docs. I really regret now that at one point I gave up hope on my embies. If I could go back and change how I "felt" about my embies I would.

2. Another person on here had a FET and when they thawed her 4 embies they all lost cells and went from 6 cells to 1 or 2 cells and they got pg.

3. Like Sammy says all it takes it 1!!!


I will be praying for you and your embies. :dust: xo
 
Sammy - Here's what I think. My doc was surprised by the low number of embryos we got in the first place. The thinking was I would get more than 5 so we could take some to blast and do pgd. With my history of miscarriage it's more likely than not that I'm going to get embryos with chromosomal abnormalities. If all 5 hung around till tomorrow they would have taken them to blast and done the pgd and although pgd is not 100% it would have given me a better chance of getting pg and not miscarrying. As of today only 2 or 3 look like they're going to make it to tomorrow (I can't remember which number he said). Because the number of embryos is so low they're going to do a day 3 transfer and no pgd. To me it feels like I'm in the same situation I've been in every month since ttc. I don't know if any will even be around by tomorrow and I don't know what the quality of the embryos will be like. He told me not to feel like my situation is totally hopeless right now but to be honest I don't even feel like doing my progesterone shot tonight. My doc also mentioned that next time around we may have to try different medications. I almost wish we could just start over now.

Crikey..... :nope: Does he know why the quality was not so good?? Did he warn you this might happen? I think you will have at least two to transfer tomorrow by the sounds of it and it only takes one honey. Please take the progesterone injection... dont give up hope its not over! I have seen people have 2 cell embies transfered and get BFP... its not about numbers (as long as you have some to transfer) I have got to the stage now where I dont even care about having any left to freeze. Once upon a time I would have been disappointed not to have any. Its a right lottery no matter what happens. Wishing you all the luck for tomorrow hun... what time you got to be there? :hugs:


That's the kicker part of it. All my test results from the very extensive work up showed that I had a decent chance at success. Every test they did to assess my uterine lining and egg quality and counts, my response to the stimming meds and I could go on and on were all good. By some freak of nature I think that my doctor will say that somehow those results do not accurately reflect what is going on with me reproductively speaking and so there's going to be a change in my med regimen the next go around. I know I should keep focused on this cycle and that people have gotten their bfps with day 3 transfers but this has truly been a shock to me. I will do the progesterone tonight and hope that I have some embryos in the morning. The ET is scheduled for 10:30. Do you know how long you have to wait before doing a new ivf cycle? There won't be any frozen embryos for me.:nope:

Maxi Please Please Please DONT give up hope, as difficult as it is right now.

I have a million things I want to tell you right now to help you - I know that none of them might help - but I am still going to say a few.

1. My cycle was similar to yours in that everything seemed to go perfectly - until I got to fertilization and it was a shock even to docs. I really regret now that at one point I gave up hope on my embies. If I could go back and change how I "felt" about my embies I would.

2. Another person on here had a FET and when they thawed her 4 embies they all lost cells and went from 6 cells to 1 or 2 cells and they got pg.

3. Like Sammy says all it takes it 1!!!


I will be praying for you and your embies. :dust: xo

Thanks Blue. I am dragging myself out of bed and am trying to feel like it's not over till it's over. It was such a shock to me that I felt almost physically knocked down by it. And of course I'm trying to avoid my natural instinct to find something I did to have this happen like drinking too much caffeine and well that's about all I do.
 
Sammy - Here's what I think. My doc was surprised by the low number of embryos we got in the first place. The thinking was I would get more than 5 so we could take some to blast and do pgd. With my history of miscarriage it's more likely than not that I'm going to get embryos with chromosomal abnormalities. If all 5 hung around till tomorrow they would have taken them to blast and done the pgd and although pgd is not 100% it would have given me a better chance of getting pg and not miscarrying. As of today only 2 or 3 look like they're going to make it to tomorrow (I can't remember which number he said). Because the number of embryos is so low they're going to do a day 3 transfer and no pgd. To me it feels like I'm in the same situation I've been in every month since ttc. I don't know if any will even be around by tomorrow and I don't know what the quality of the embryos will be like. He told me not to feel like my situation is totally hopeless right now but to be honest I don't even feel like doing my progesterone shot tonight. My doc also mentioned that next time around we may have to try different medications. I almost wish we could just start over now.

Crikey..... :nope: Does he know why the quality was not so good?? Did he warn you this might happen? I think you will have at least two to transfer tomorrow by the sounds of it and it only takes one honey. Please take the progesterone injection... dont give up hope its not over! I have seen people have 2 cell embies transfered and get BFP... its not about numbers (as long as you have some to transfer) I have got to the stage now where I dont even care about having any left to freeze. Once upon a time I would have been disappointed not to have any. Its a right lottery no matter what happens. Wishing you all the luck for tomorrow hun... what time you got to be there? :hugs:


That's the kicker part of it. All my test results from the very extensive work up showed that I had a decent chance at success. Every test they did to assess my uterine lining and egg quality and counts, my response to the stimming meds and I could go on and on were all good. By some freak of nature I think that my doctor will say that somehow those results do not accurately reflect what is going on with me reproductively speaking and so there's going to be a change in my med regimen the next go around. I know I should keep focused on this cycle and that people have gotten their bfps with day 3 transfers but this has truly been a shock to me. I will do the progesterone tonight and hope that I have some embryos in the morning. The ET is scheduled for 10:30. Do you know how long you have to wait before doing a new ivf cycle? There won't be any frozen embryos for me.:nope:

Maxi Please Please Please DONT give up hope, as difficult as it is right now.

I have a million things I want to tell you right now to help you - I know that none of them might help - but I am still going to say a few.

1. My cycle was similar to yours in that everything seemed to go perfectly - until I got to fertilization and it was a shock even to docs. I really regret now that at one point I gave up hope on my embies. If I could go back and change how I "felt" about my embies I would.

2. Another person on here had a FET and when they thawed her 4 embies they all lost cells and went from 6 cells to 1 or 2 cells and they got pg.

3. Like Sammy says all it takes it 1!!!


I will be praying for you and your embies. :dust: xo

Thanks Blue. I am dragging myself out of bed and am trying to feel like it's not over till it's over. It was such a shock to me that I felt almost physically knocked down by it. And of course I'm trying to avoid my natural instinct to find something I did to have this happen like drinking too much caffeine and well that's about all I do.

You havent done anything wrong hun so dont even think that! :hugs:

Its just one of those things and its shit but its not over.... I can honestly say I have read hundreds of different circumstances on here all the years i have been a member and some are right eye openers i can tell you. For example I would never think that transfering 5 embryos that it could jst not be possible NOT to work,... but sometimes it does. I got pregnant with a 3 day transfer but then the next time i didnt. Taking the embies to blast doesnt mean anything either to me... i merely just wanted to try something different for a change. If this doesnt work for me then maybe i will go back to a 3 day transfer again since i DID get pregnant with that method.

I have been thinking about you all night... I really hope things go well for you today and you dont have anymore bad news between now and transfer. Its so bloody worrying. I am sitting here not knowing what to expect tomorrow... yeah things look ok but we all know how quickley that can change. What happens if there is only 1/3 good ones with mine? I also feel sorry for the poor embie that I am using as a back up, which will most likely not be able to be frozen. I know it doesnt know whats happening or feel any pain but still im sad I have to let it go... I have had to make these decisions now, if my stupid hospital froze on day 5 he could be frozen.

Anyway I wish you all the very best hun and please let us know how you get on and no matter what happens your going to be PUPO when you get back!!!! :happydance::happydance::hugs:
 
maxi I hope this morning goes well. I know the feeling of the shock of things not going as expected, it does knock you off your feet, but don't blame yourself at all, as hard as it may seem right now. xo
 
Thanks Sammy and Blue. We're back from the office. They transferred 3 - 1 Grade 2 and 2 Grade 2+. I am going to hope for the best and take everything day by day. The girl next to me of course had 2 Grade 1 embryos transferred at day 5 and 8 to freeze and another girl did "really well" according to the doc. When he got to me he said "Well let's hope they take!" He did say something nice during the transfer though which was "Wow they slid in so nicely like they wanted to be there". We'll see. I'm going to hope for the best!
 
Maxi, that's a great number to have put back, I've just got 1 x 3 day embie in and I've not given up hope (although reading the last few posts maybe I should;-( )

I'm still feeling quite bloated and sore - is this right????

Back to work tomorrow, blah, not looking forward to it, had to have an hours nap yesterday afternoon and 2 hours this afternoon!

Only 4 more wake ups before I can test! Hopefully this week will speed by.

I'm not feeling 'pregnant' so I'm thinking about what's next, clinic shut down for Xmas so I assume fet will be jan at earliest, then after that I don't know, been thinking of adoption. Ivf will cost 5,000 and with only a small chance of success and all this suffering, I really don't know.
 

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