IVF until we all get our bfp! 2012-present *13 w/twins & 1 w/triplets!*

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Had to have another beta test today from doc due to more bleeding and at 27dpo my levels are 15500 :) and more blood's in the morning for the ivf clinic

Sorry you keep having bleeding, I know it is totally normal but I can imagine that it is making you nervous. Glad to hear your beta is so reassuring. Others on here have had bleeding too and are now far along in their pregnancy so I'm sure it is all good. Congrats on the great beta, can't wait to hear if yours split.

lulu- congrats

bomo- i have had about 200mg of caffeine everyday since i cut back from about 1000 a day in november. i also drink diet soda.. while it is hard to have so little control over outcomes, stressing over stuff wont help either (not saying that is what you are doing,, just in general). a cup of tea, caffeine or no will not do anything either way. fingers crossed for you

afm- got my full amnio results today and all clear. yay

That's great news, congrats!

Want and Jenn, so glad to hear your scans went well today!!

Getting, your little one looks great! Congrats!

Lulu, congrats on the twins!! Very exciting.

Bomo, I kind of look at it like Drs - women drink caffeine before they find out they're pregnant all the time and go on to have happy, healthy babies so it's probably okay to have some decaf tea.

Almost, hope your tests come back negative!

MrsC, I'm so glad your hubby is home and you can still do your gender scan this week. Can't wait to hear your results - I'm guessing two boys :-)

AFM, had my 5th IUI today and I have to admit I feel like it was a huge waste of time. I really wanted to keep trying and doing something between now and when I can do another IVF but now I think it was dumb and I should have saved my money. I had 4 ripe follies and 32 million sperm with 46% motility so theoretically my chances should be decent but I'm just not feeling it.

Hello to everyone else - hope you're all doing well!

Awe, FX that this IUI works! When will you know?

Lulu - amazing news congratulations!!

Jenn - glad the chances chromosome abnormalities are low :)

Almost - I hope everything is ok. Try not to stress though, I'm sure it'll be fine :)

Mrs C - hooray for getting your hubby back! Was he surprised how much your bumb had grown???

AFM - slept well last night so feeling human again! Hooray :)

Have a great day everyone xx

Glad to hear you got some sleep. I just had 5 days off and first day back to work, going to be rough, at least it is Wednesday!

And ... hot from the press.... second test this morning : :bfn:
We still have our two :cold: ... I have no idea why this isn't working. Really thought that the main hurdle (my DH's sterility) was behind us. We finally had what was a nice blast ... Don't really know what else to do, since apparently, everything is fine with me - so why isn't it nestling in?! :(

Have now asked that DH and I make an appt. together (TBH, I am quite tired of always going on my own to all appointments and asking the questions he has / not thinking of questions until I have left) and somehow I feel like I am on a merry-go-round without a destination (how would there be? it goes in circles) ... so that we can be advised together.

How am I feeling? Bit at a loss.

Awe, Bubu so sorry to hear this. :hugs: I totally agree that your DH should be going with you. Mine never did either. They have no clue what we go through. So when will you do your FET?
 
Thanks ladies!

Re - FET ... not sure - perhaps next cycle. If that doesn't work, then I guess we have had it for this year, because I need to give my body a rest and I am pretty sure that December would be out anyway, because the clinic closes for the holidays...

The only appt. he comes to is when I have ER (and when I have had testing on the weekends, then he has accompanied me) and he has to take vacation for that day...

I just really would like to understand why... I mean no sperm, is a pretty clear reason. We have managed to get some and we have had even really good fertilisation statistics (June 11 out of 12 fertilised and this time 7 out of 10) so I think that is good... For some reason, we have been low on the development to blast (one frosty made it to a beginning blast and this time we had one lovely one at transfer)... I don't know ...

There isn't much I have really wanted in life - just a family (and having my own is what kept me going through the whole crap with my family - divorced, different countries me bouncing back and forth between all of them, bla bla bla - my Father remarried, they adopted two children - after sending me to live with my Mother, the younger, screw up, is now pregnant with her second, due this moth ... both Fatherless, she doesn't have a job and lives off welfare.... My Dad just dotes on his Grandchild) ... really, the only thing that has kept me looking forward is the candle in the window of being a Mother and making family life for my family the way it should be : a family.
So why? Now that they can fertilise (which was the hurdle) - what isn't working?

These are all the questions swirling around in my head and I just don't understand it. If I had an explanation, no matter what, then perhaps I could come to terms with it... All I can think right now (and I am sure that all you women who have to go through ICSI / IVF can appreciate it) is : it's so unfair...

Sorry for the rant. I do have a cool head on my shoulders, but I am also a bundle of confused emotions right now...
 
Bubu your situation is just like mine.... No reason for failure.dh had no sperm but we always get some and good fert report... We get blasts and then nothing. I'm like you on the fet... Rant all you want :) sorry it didn't work out this time. Me and you and our frozen embryos are going to get out bfp!
 
2rdue-great beta!

and thanks for all the well wishes ladies, I may hear back about strep today which will most likely come back neg. since the instant was, and then fifths tomorrow....the day of my US eeeeek!!!
 
Bubu - I am so sorry :( Have you thought about going to another clinic and getting a second opinion with perhaps a more aggressive protocol?
 
Thanks ladies!

Re - FET ... not sure - perhaps next cycle. If that doesn't work, then I guess we have had it for this year, because I need to give my body a rest and I am pretty sure that December would be out anyway, because the clinic closes for the holidays...

The only appt. he comes to is when I have ER (and when I have had testing on the weekends, then he has accompanied me) and he has to take vacation for that day...

I just really would like to understand why... I mean no sperm, is a pretty clear reason. We have managed to get some and we have had even really good fertilisation statistics (June 11 out of 12 fertilised and this time 7 out of 10) so I think that is good... For some reason, we have been low on the development to blast (one frosty made it to a beginning blast and this time we had one lovely one at transfer)... I don't know ...

There isn't much I have really wanted in life - just a family (and having my own is what kept me going through the whole crap with my family - divorced, different countries me bouncing back and forth between all of them, bla bla bla - my Father remarried, they adopted two children - after sending me to live with my Mother, the younger, screw up, is now pregnant with her second, due this moth ... both Fatherless, she doesn't have a job and lives off welfare.... My Dad just dotes on his Grandchild) ... really, the only thing that has kept me looking forward is the candle in the window of being a Mother and making family life for my family the way it should be : a family.
So why? Now that they can fertilise (which was the hurdle) - what isn't working?

These are all the questions swirling around in my head and I just don't understand it. If I had an explanation, no matter what, then perhaps I could come to terms with it... All I can think right now (and I am sure that all you women who have to go through ICSI / IVF can appreciate it) is : it's so unfair...

Sorry for the rant. I do have a cool head on my shoulders, but I am also a bundle of confused emotions right now...

Good Morning Bubu....my heart breaks for you...I'm so sorry for all you have to go through, and you can rant all you want....We are here for you and will listen :hugs: I will keep you in my prayers....I'm most certain that you will be posting about your BFP soon enough.
 
Bubu - I am so sorry :( Have you thought about going to another clinic and getting a second opinion with perhaps a more aggressive protocol?

Thanks!! To be honest, I hadn't - the clinic we are going to is supposed to be the best in Germany (if not in fact in Europe).
What do you mean by more aggressive protocol? Do you mean the meds and then the ER? I actually thought that we were doing the more aggressive one (antagonist protocol)... but we will try to get an appointment with the doctor and get some more advice...

PRAYIN4BABIES said:
Good Morning Bubu....my heart breaks for you...I'm so sorry for all you have to go through, and you can rant all you want....We are here for you and will listen :hugs: I will keep you in my prayers....I'm most certain that you will be posting about your BFP soon enough.

Hi Prayin :wave: thank you for your understanding and also for your prayers :) I hope you are right :D
 
Bubu - I am so sorry - I would be asking myself the same question - WHY??? It just doesn't seem to make sense. I agree with Jess, have you considered going somewhere else? Not saying that it's necessarily the clinic that you go to or anything, but just a thought? We are always all here for you and don't mind you venting at all. XOXO!
 
Bubu - antagonist is an aggressive protocol, but there are other things they can mix it to make it more tailored to your situation. I would absolutely get a second opinion at this point, and I would also have that new RE run tests over, and more tests, including immunity issues, etc. It seems that there may be an underlying issue that perhaps is an easy fix but hasnt been caught just yet by this RE. On your follow up, I would absolutely ask why this isnt working, and demand they do full panel screenings.
 
Bubu - I am so sorry - I would be asking myself the same question - WHY??? It just doesn't seem to make sense. I agree with Jess, have you considered going somewhere else? Not saying that it's necessarily the clinic that you go to or anything, but just a thought? We are always all here for you and don't mind you venting at all. XOXO!

Thanks :hugs: ... I guess it can always happen - there is never a guarantee that the eggies will continue developing / will nestle in etc. etc. ...not in a natural cycle, not with ICSI... Will discuss with my DH, but I do believe us to be in the best of hands at the clinic we are at. I guess we just need to speak with our doctor again...
 
Bubu - antagonist is an aggressive protocol, but there are other things they can mix it to make it more tailored to your situation. I would absolutely get a second opinion at this point, and I would also have that new RE run tests over, and more tests, including immunity issues, etc. It seems that there may be an underlying issue that perhaps is an easy fix but hasnt been caught just yet by this RE. On your follow up, I would absolutely ask why this isnt working, and demand they do full panel screenings.

Thanks :hugs:
When you guys talk about RE - what exactly do you mean?
The clinic we go to, there are many many doctors / consultants. It can even happen (or has happened) that during my treatment, "my" doctor has gone on vacation and I have seen the other doctors until the ER. I have had the same doctor do my ER both times (not mine, but one I feel very comfortable with) and for the ET, I have had three different doctors so far (mine did two).
You are probably right, that it may be wise to do more tests - and do full panel screenings, because there may well be something they haven't caught. All I know is that my bloods have always been good, whether it be hormones, genetics (they have tested all of it)...

You guys are so sweet :cloud9:
 
I am so sorry bubu! :hugs: I would certainly ask for another set of blood tests done. Have they tested for immune problems? If you trust your doctor, stick with them, but I would ask if there is anything else you can have tested to find out what is going on. Have they done a hysterosalpingogram or any similiar testing to make sure there is no issues that have come up recently?
 
A hysterwhat? (just googled it :) )... well - Since we are having to do ICSI due to DHs problems, I suppose it doesn't really make a difference how my tubes are, does it?
Actually, I have had no internal testing done - only the blood work to make sure that my hormones are OK and all the testing / u/s they do when checking where you are in your cycle etc. My Gynaecologist (and also the docs at the clinics) have said that I have nice shaped uterus :)
I don't think they have tested for immune issues. They had my GP do a thorough check up so that my pre-op form could be filled in. And as I had issues with glandular fever a few years ago, I have had quite excessive testing done on that front at the beginning of this year and everything was normal (not at this clinic, that was separate)..
I guess I will just have to ask them if there is anything they haven't thought of and whether more testing can be done...
Other than that - I mean, statistics say that with each try, there is only a 20-25% chance of getting pregnant - that is not really that high and essentially means, that on average, it takes up to around 5 tries before it works. Don't know if that is just considering singleton transfer or two as we have been doing - but ... if not ... our fifth try should be our :bfp: ... :)
 
A hysterosalpingogram is where they insert dye into you and can check your uterus....LOL I do hope that you get your BFP on your next cycle! It is so hard going through this so many times. I am starting my 3rd fresh round in 2 weeks!
 
Two weeks and it will be your :bfp: :) :)
May I ask how you "got" your first child? Is that your child in your avatar?
 
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