June Baby Angels

[Meli_H]

I’ve also started browsing other forums here about acupuncture. I think that if I don’t get pregnant this month, I’ll check out an acupuncturist to evaluate me. I’m intrigued because I read something about ‘stagnation’, and how many women suffer from that. It sounds like it’s a buildup of blood in the uterus, and doesn’t permit good blood flow to a baby, resulting in mc. It mentioned that stagnation is the reason why many women, after giving birth, suffer from less painful cramping and blood flow from their subsequent periods. I have always suffered from painful cramping and high blood flow. The pain is debilitating, so for the last ten years or so, as soon as I feel af coming along, I start medicating myself with strong painkillers, and have to do that for at least the first 24 hours of af.

I’ve learned so much stuff from this website!! I’ve read that acupuncture can help with regulating cycles. Although I’ve always been very regular with af, who knows, I may just need some assistance regulating after my mc. I also read something about the luteal phase, and how when a woman ovulates, is very important. Just to know that one ovulates, isn’t enough. Supposedly, if a woman gets pregnant, but ovulation didn’t take place at the right time, the woman can still get pregnant, but will ultimately mc because the egg wasnt a 'good egg'. I also read that once a woman is pregnant, acupuncture can assist with keeping the pregnancy viable..soemthing about assisting with the blood flow to the uterus..So much info my head is spinning..and sorry if I mangled all the acupuncture info, just going off of the top of my head.

Anyways, I figure that acupuncture may help me all around. It’s going to be an expense that my health insurance won't cover, but once the holidays and associated expenses are over, I will sacrifice other luxuries to try it.

And here all I thought was that once I actually got pregnant, I would be good to go. HA! Silly me…

 

[Middysquidge]

Good morning ladies.


Jasmine: You are right. The breeders are everywhere! I saw a pregnant woman crossing the street today and contemplated hitting her with my car. I was still parked at the church where I had just dropped my dd off at mother's day out and this was the kind of thought rolling around in my head. She made it safely to the other side of the street before I even put my car in drive. I hated myself for even thinking it. Who knows what else is going on in her life. My situation could be much better than hers.

Sorry Vegas, I just had to have a little giggle at contemplating mowing down a pregnant woman, makes me wonder how man people might have felt like that about us when we were pg with our little ones! You really have no idea how it feels until you go through losing one, all rational goes out of the window. I'm exactly the same!

I also wanted you to know that what you said here:
I just really need to be back to TTC before I hit my due date. For some reason I feel if I can conceive and carry to term this next baby then this was meant to be since I would have never been able to have the second baby had the first pregnancy not ended.
I found very poignant and spiritual in a good way, not irrational one bit, I think it's the way I would now like to think about having one before my due date. It's a baby that never ever could have been had we not lost the others, almost like they gave their lives for them so it's all the more special.

Megan1986, really really great news about your AF, I'm really please the witch got you hehe! Ooh, maybe I should change my siggy now, I actually do want the witch to get me time to take off me ruby shoes, fat lot of good they were anyway!

Stef, I'm so sorry about your cat, is there any sign of her yet? I really hope she turns up for you. My cat is always going off for ventures sometimes they last days, we used to live on a farm so he reverts back sometimes! Fingers crossed for you x

Meli, I know what you mean about learning loads from here! In general I'm a bit of a research geek anyway. I love scouring the net and finding out what I can, like Vegas says too, you can learn what you need from there often more than the doctors can tell you! My friend tried acupuncture when she was ttc as it took 3 years and it did actually work! I don't know anything about it but good luck with your OPKs, let us know when you get a positive! I've been testing for a few days now. If day of the d&c was day 1, I'm day 14 now and no positive as of yet and have no idea about my chart. Here it is, can anyone shed any light:

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2660af

I really want to try this month, I feel like I am about to 'o' any day. DH is saying we can if I really want but he would rather wait one cycle like we were told, he said he would be extremely upset if anything went wrong and would blame it on not waiting. I don't know what to do.

Here's the thing, my dad passed away suddenly just 2 years ago, we were soul mates. His birthday was 25th August and that would be my due date if we caught this month and didn't wait for AF. We would also get a bfp before Xmas on the slim chance we did catch this is. It's only a slim chance but those things make it feel like fate, also the fact OH will be away fro the January 'o'. On the downside if it went wrong and we lost it again, OH would blame me! What shall I doooo? x

 

[jenkb123]

Does anyone know how long it takes for a post to show up if you get the message that the post has to be approved by the moderator?? I posted my story yesterday morning and it has not shown up on here yet. It was my very first post in a forum. It was a bit long as I had never told my story before. I am not sure if it is lost in space or if it will still show up on here. I'd hate to have to do it again...I don't want to post something else and then have it show up later. I posted to other threads after I sent that post and everything else has just posted right away.

 

[Middysquidge]

Hey Jenkb123, welcome to the forum and the thread. I presume your story is a sad one as you are joining us in here, so I'm sorry for that but there are some good girls in here! You can have support from us , big hugs to you. You can get in touch with the administrators you know I think in forum help and testing areas, that's annoying isn't it, I'm sure it will be posted soon enough though especially if you just send them a little message enquiring where it is x x

 

[vegasbaby]

OK, so I got my hcg results in this afternoon and I went from 29,000 to 369 . Of course I know it will fall really slowly from here, but I'm on my way down a lot faster than I expected. Again, I figure if it falls quickly then my doctor might give me the green light sooner. On another note my mom told me yesterday that she had a message for me. She told me that she knew that my baby was being taken care of by her mom in heaven. Honestly, I'm not always sure what I believe, but I want to believe this is true with all my heart. My grandmother was a wonderful woman and she has been in our spot. My grandmother had six miscarriages, including several stillborns, before she had my mom and uncle. I can't imagine how going through something like this must have been almost 70 years ago without the internet and people like you for support, but somehow she kept going. Had my grandmother stopped trying my mom wouldn't be here and neither would I. So the lesson is never give up.

Jenkb: It should have turned up pretty quickly. Did you post it to this thread? I'm sorry if it hasn't shown up. I think there is a way you can contact the moderators. I am assuming if you posted here then you have suffered a loss and for that I am so sorry. On the other hand you will find so much support and encouragement here so you are in the right place. Welcome!

Jasmine: I say if you are up for trying then do it. I'm sure your dad is watching over you and now your little angel. Remember due dates aren't set in stone. My dd was supposed to be a March 8th baby and arrived in mid-February (the day before my brother's b-day and this is the brother I don't like). Any day is as good as the next, just bring us all healthy babies!

Stef: I hope you find your cat. I had two cats go missing. One was a three year old Himalayan that my mom swears one of the local college kids took as he went missing on their graduation day (I have chosen to believe her and imagine him still as a 13 year old spoiled kitty in some thief's house). Also, the other cat that went missing took a week or so vacation from us one winter. We are pretty sure he went into someone's garage seeking some heat and then they left and locked him in while they were away. He came home and was fine, just a bit hungry. He didn't stray too much after that. Hopefully your cat will return to you soon.

Meli: I'd love to try acupuncture as well. I have wonky cycles as it is and have wondered if it would help. Can't hurt, right?

Megan: Woo hoo for AF! Who ever thought that was something to cheer about?!

Angel: Hi.

 

[Meli_H]

Good morning ladies.


Jasmine: You are right. The breeders are everywhere! I saw a pregnant woman crossing the street today and contemplated hitting her with my car. I was still parked at the church where I had just dropped my dd off at mother's day out and this was the kind of thought rolling around in my head. She made it safely to the other side of the street before I even put my car in drive. I hated myself for even thinking it. Who knows what else is going on in her life. My situation could be much better than hers.

Sorry Vegas, I just had to have a little giggle at contemplating mowing down a pregnant woman, makes me wonder how man people might have felt like that about us when we were pg with our little ones! You really have no idea how it feels until you go through losing one, all rational goes out of the window. I'm exactly the same!

I also wanted you to know that what you said here:
I just really need to be back to TTC before I hit my due date. For some reason I feel if I can conceive and carry to term this next baby then this was meant to be since I would have never been able to have the second baby had the first pregnancy not ended.
I found very poignant and spiritual in a good way, not irrational one bit, I think it's the way I would now like to think about having one before my due date. It's a baby that never ever could have been had we not lost the others, almost like they gave their lives for them so it's all the more special.

Megan1986, really really great news about your AF, I'm really please the witch got you hehe! Ooh, maybe I should change my siggy now, I actually do want the witch to get me time to take off me ruby shoes, fat lot of good they were anyway!

Stef, I'm so sorry about your cat, is there any sign of her yet? I really hope she turns up for you. My cat is always going off for ventures sometimes they last days, we used to live on a farm so he reverts back sometimes! Fingers crossed for you x

Meli, I know what you mean about learning loads from here! In general I'm a bit of a research geek anyway. I love scouring the net and finding out what I can, like Vegas says too, you can learn what you need from there often more than the doctors can tell you! My friend tried acupuncture when she was ttc as it took 3 years and it did actually work! I don't know anything about it but good luck with your OPKs, let us know when you get a positive! I've been testing for a few days now. If day of the d&c was day 1, I'm day 14 now and no positive as of yet and have no idea about my chart. Here it is, can anyone shed any light:

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2660af

I really want to try this month, I feel like I am about to 'o' any day. DH is saying we can if I really want but he would rather wait one cycle like we were told, he said he would be extremely upset if anything went wrong and would blame it on not waiting. I don't know what to do.

Here's the thing, my dad passed away suddenly just 2 years ago, we were soul mates. His birthday was 25th August and that would be my due date if we caught this month and didn't wait for AF. We would also get a bfp before Xmas on the slim chance we did catch this is. It's only a slim chance but those things make it feel like fate, also the fact OH will be away fro the January 'o'. On the downside if it went wrong and we lost it again, OH would blame me! What shall I doooo? x

Hi Jasmine!
If I was in your shoes, I would go for it!! I truly believe things happen for a reason. I believe my mc happened for a reason--I think there was something wrong with my angel and it that’s why my mc happened. Like they say, if your body is ready, it will happen, but if it’s not ready, it won’t happen.

I think your reasons are valid to ttc now, instead of waiting for next cycle. Like you said, it’s a slim chance it’ll happen this month, but it’s still a chance.
If you don’t catch this month’s egg, then it wasn’t meant to be, right? But, you’ll never know unless you try.

Let us know what you decide, and good luck if you decide to go for it!!! Sorry to hear about your dad--I can’t imagine that pain. I know your angel isn’t alone-your angel is with your dad.

 

[Middysquidge]

That's really really good Vegas, I'm so happy you got a bit of good news! Looks like your body is doing a good job there! That's an amazing drop isn't it!x x

Aww, thanks to you both saying my angel is with my dad, I hope so, the baby will be in loving hands if so

I'll keep you posted on whether or not I decide to go for it, still getting negative OPKs but feel it may be soon! Big decision to make x

 

[Meli_H]

vegas,

That’s a quick drop in hcg levels, here’s hoping to getting to ‘5’ or less SOON, real soon! I like your mom’s msg. You make a very good point about your grandmother’s strength in suffering her trials and tribulations, and conquering them. If she had given up after her multiple mc’s and stillborns, your mother and uncle wouldn’t be here, as neither would you and your siblings, and your dd, etc.

I LUV what you wrote earlier--it’s so very insightful and a point that I had never thought of myself:

“I just really need to be back to TTC before I hit my due date. For some reason I feel if I can conceive and carry to term this next baby then this was meant to be since I would have never been able to have the second baby had the first pregnancy not ended”

jasmine, I LUV what you wrote below, I am going to think of my angel in the same way. You broke down vegas’ thoughts and expanded on them further.

“I found very poignant and spiritual in a good way, not irrational one bit, I think it's the way I would now like to think about having one before my due date. It's a baby that never ever could have been had we not lost the others, almost like they gave their lives for them so it's all the more special.”

Thanks to both of you-and all the other ladies who have posted thoughts and statements that have resonated with me!

 

[jenkb123]

Thanks Vegas and Jasmine. I am very sorry for your losses as well!! I did post to this thread. Hopefully it will still turn up! My due date would have been June 28. I had a completed m/c in November (it finished around the 18th). I am really happy I found this forum. It has been really helpful to read everyone's stories. It has given me some answers and hope!! It is comforting to know that other people have the same questions, concerns and feelings that I have been having.

Vegas - Glad to hear your HSG went down so quickly! I believe your grandma is looking after your baby. It was nice of your mom to say that!! It makes it easier somehow to think that our loved ones that have already passed are looking after our little ones that couldn't stay with us. I cant imagine how much harder it would have been to go through something like this alone back in the days before the internet!!

I heard something a little while back that I wish I could remember better. Someone said something like, when you get pregnant it means that there is a soul out there that has chosen you to be their mommy. When you miscarry it just means they were just not quite ready to be with us in the physical world but will be soon. I thought that sounded nice. It gives me hope that it will happen someday.

 

[Middysquidge]

I hope we all get to meet with our angels some day, some way or another. My grandparents also had a lot of heartache ttc too. They had my dad no problem but they had a genetic disorder which in their day prevented them from having a second baby, I'll have to ask my grampa what is it called again. They had 11 mc's and a still born baby named Anne, my nanna says she had a full head of black curls. They did eventually go onto have one more, after full blood transfusions I think for mother and baby and my Aunty Anna was born with a full head of blonde curls! So glad she was, we're really close but how do you get through all that in one piece? I guess you don't, pieces off you fall off and stay with them I guess.

Also, vegas about dates your dd was due on my OH's birthday 8th March!

Hope your story turns up Jen! How many weeks were you though? We're all here for you x

 

[angel2010]

I think AF has finally showed up. Still light, but looks like my body is trying to get back to normal! yay

Yay, that is great!

I'm questioning if I'm ever going to get a break. One of my cats, one I've had for over 10 years and adopted very shortly after moving over 1000 miles away from all my family, is missing. She's been my baby for over a decade, I'm freaking out. We thought she was just hiding yesterday, but when she wasn't in her normal spot when OH got up this morning, we searched the entire house and she was nowhere to be found. He and I both searched outside with flashlights, and I searched twice more once the sun came out.

This last week has been some sort of cruel joke

I am so sorry about your cat. I would be devastated if mine got lost.

I’ve also started browsing other forums here about acupuncture. I think that if I don’t get pregnant this month, I’ll check out an acupuncturist to evaluate me. I’m intrigued because I read something about ‘stagnation’, and how many women suffer from that. It sounds like it’s a buildup of blood in the uterus, and doesn’t permit good blood flow to a baby, resulting in mc. It mentioned that stagnation is the reason why many women, after giving birth, suffer from less painful cramping and blood flow from their subsequent periods. I have always suffered from painful cramping and high blood flow. The pain is debilitating, so for the last ten years or so, as soon as I feel af coming along, I start medicating myself with strong painkillers, and have to do that for at least the first 24 hours of af.

I’ve learned so much stuff from this website!! I’ve read that acupuncture can help with regulating cycles. Although I’ve always been very regular with af, who knows, I may just need some assistance regulating after my mc. I also read something about the luteal phase, and how when a woman ovulates, is very important. Just to know that one ovulates, isn’t enough. Supposedly, if a woman gets pregnant, but ovulation didn’t take place at the right time, the woman can still get pregnant, but will ultimately mc because the egg wasnt a 'good egg'. I also read that once a woman is pregnant, acupuncture can assist with keeping the pregnancy viable..soemthing about assisting with the blood flow to the uterus..So much info my head is spinning..and sorry if I mangled all the acupuncture info, just going off of the top of my head.

Anyways, I figure that acupuncture may help me all around. It’s going to be an expense that my health insurance won't cover, but once the holidays and associated expenses are over, I will sacrifice other luxuries to try it.

And here all I thought was that once I actually got pregnant, I would be good to go. HA! Silly me…

It couldn't hurt, so go for it.
My period got lighter as well as my cramps after having Carter, interesting. If your luteal phase is too short, you can certainly miscarry. I think there is a worry if it gets below ten days (I could be off though).

Sorry Vegas, I just had to have a little giggle at contemplating mowing down a pregnant woman

I had a chuckle at this too. I know I have those thoughts too.

Does anyone know how long it takes for a post to show up if you get the message that the post has to be approved by the moderator?? I posted my story yesterday morning and it has not shown up on here yet. It was my very first post in a forum. It was a bit long as I had never told my story before. I am not sure if it is lost in space or if it will still show up on here. I'd hate to have to do it again...I don't want to post something else and then have it show up later. I posted to other threads after I sent that post and everything else has just posted right away.

I am very sorry you are posting here. This is a great group and will certainly be a great shoulder to lean or cry on.

 

[angel2010]

Jasmine, your chart is still a little crazy with the temps. I would just go with your gut and bd when you think you are ovulating. I think when we try again I am going to skip OPKs and just go with o pain and cm. Good luck, hope you catch it!

 

[Middysquidge]

Thanks for looking at my chart hun. The chart below that one is the one where I conceived my angel but at least it's a good chart for comparison. Tbh we haven't bd once yet but have only been allowed since yesterday to be fair to us!

I'm not expecting it to be a normal cycle but I haven't had even a tiny faint OPK yet, I think we will have to wait til Jan after all cos my gut feeling is that cos I got a negative pg test 6 days after op my levels went down quick and I ovulated sooner but if that was the case wouldn't my temps be higher like more of a post ovulation temp? Very confused! Thanks for the advice and if anyone has anymore on the chart please share as I'm a bit giggy you know

How are things with you Angel?

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2660af

 

[Middysquidge]

Okay quick update:
Faint positive OPK today, completely nothing all week up till now, this was from 4am wee! TMI alert also got some very good ewcm today and little cramps, my gut instinct o is on her way tomorrow. So I might just go for it! x x

 

[vegasbaby]

Jasmine: I checked out your new chart too, but also couldn't tell much (especially with the big drop). I feel like it has been so long since I had to deal with temping and charting. I've started taking my temps, but not charting. My temp is still so high. I'll start once I get a period (whenever that happens). If I were you I'd take another OPK sometime this afternoon to see if it has gotten darker and then go for it. Like you dh and I haven't bd yet. Of course it has only been a little over a week since everything happened, but my doc said it was OK. DH tried last night and before we even got started I began to cry. Not sure when I'll ever be in the mood again.

 

[MrsPhez]

Hi ladies,
Jumping in after a long time. It's been 6 weeks since my m/c, 17 days ago had 2 days of brown spotting. Today I got first pos OPK. It's been a while but just want to say hang in there! I had a pos-ish opk when I was spotting. Think it could have been a random bit of hcg because my temps didn't rise. This one is the real thing though, dark as the control. So relieved....

 

[Middysquidge]

Hello MrsPhez :wave:: Congrats on your OPK, are you going for it? Thanks for looking at my chart too and you Vegas! Just took another OPK and it's completely gone back to nothing now! I'm guessing that was my positive this morning, maybe he tail end of it? Who knows, I'm gonna bd tonight and Sunday, see what happens! Vegas, I wouldn't have been ready last week either, only just feel up to it this week, 2 weeks after my op x x

 

[StefNJunk]

So exciting to hear some of you ladies are getting to go for it again now! That makes me very happy

And YAY! Just got back from the bathroom and it's the first time in 11 days there was no blood! I'm going to give it until the end of the day to get too excited that it's finally done, but it's looking good!

And thank you everyone for the thoughts about my cat. We had an appointment with the realtor to look at houses yesterday (made it before she disappeared), so that wasted some time I wanted to be looking for her, but we spent every spare moment outside searching. I found a picture of a cat picked up at one of the animal control centers that looked just like her, so I stopped there before meeting the realtor, but it wasn't her.

We spoke with all the neighbors and they helped us look and are going to keep an eye out for her. Our next door neighbor said she's seen her hanging around her yard and that she actually spent a good amount of time on her front porch, but she didn't know whose cat it was. OH actually saw her on their front porch on Wednesday, but didn't think anything of it because he thought she was in our house (we assumed she was just hiding out, which she does occasionally). He realized what he had seen when the neighbor mentioned she was sitting there.

So hopefully she's still hanging around her house - she said if she sees her, she'll bring her inside until we're home. I searched this morning before work, but it was chilly and windy, so I think she was still hiding. I'm going to be searching again right when I get home. Was soooo tempted to skip work and search, but I missed last week for the ultrasound and I don't get paid days off. BOOOO.

So yeah, I have a good feeling we'll find her today or that one of our neighbors will, now that they know she's ours.

 

[jenkb123]

Jasmine - I was supposed to be 7 weeks when I went for an early scan (they wanted to check if there was more than one baby as I had taken clomid to achieve the pregnancy). At the scan the baby measured 5w3d. I had't had any bleeding or indication of problems prior to the scan but knew that I couldn't be 5 weeks. We had done follicle tracking after the clomid so we were very sure of my ovulation date. I stared spotting the day after my scan and had completed the m/c by the time I went in for the follow up scan a week and a half later.

I am excited for your positive opk!! It sounds you decided to try again this month after all!! There are no guarantees whenever you try again. I think what matters most is that you feel ready. From what I've read, the main reason they advise that you wait is for dating purposes. I had many cycles in the past that were 50 - 60 days between and where I bled heavily for 3-4 weeks without stopping (sorry for the tmi). That is more time and way more bleeding than I had with my pregnancy and m/c. So I think that lining can replenish quickly!! Especially if it was an early loss. I know what you mean though. If you didn't wait and something happened it would be hard not to feel responsible. Waiting can be so hard!! I saw three different doctors during my m/c and each of them told me something slightly different about when to try again. I came to the realization that there is no right answer!!

Vegas - I know exactly what you mean. I have definitely not been in the mood since my m/c. My husband has been very patient about it which makes me feel worse (he hasn't done anything to make me feel this way so I don't want him to feel rejected). He says he understands but I wish I could feel back to normal.

Stef - I hope your cat is home waiting for you on your porch when you get home from work!!

 

[StefNJunk]

jen, so sorry to hear about your loss. I thought MMCs were more rare, but there are so many of us here who have gone through them (I found out at 11+3 that the baby had stopped growing around 8 weeks, sac had continued growing, had to take Cytotec to complete the miscarriage at 11+6). There are a lot of great women here to talk to if you need anyone, and I'm hear to listen as well!