Just curious, do any of you drink?

[DanielleM]

I love threads like this that get really heated and debated, mainly because I am nosey and like a good bitch lol!!!

These threads are even more heated as all us ladies have raging hormones and feel fiercely protective over our bumps and children and think that we have the correct attitude to pregnancy and parenting, otherwise your opinion would be different!!

I personally have not drank during pregnancy as I didn't really drink before but if I did drink before that is not to say that I would of had the odd glass of cider/beer/wine. I don't really have a strong opinion on having the odd bit of alcohol and as I said I don't have any as I don't particularly like the taste.

On the other hand my vice is coca-cola (that is my alcohol) and I have given up my full fat coke for diet caffine free coke , it is just not the same!!! Although last night I did indulge in 2 cans of full fat coke and it was pure absolute heaven and I enjoyed every minute of it hehe!!!

Also I had a soft boiled egg how very naughty of me!!!!

 

[whoops]

i don't need lycra i need spanx... my mum depressed me the other day nd told me that i will never ever be a size 8 ever again.
i beg to differ mother... i'll be like a woman possessed tryin to lose weight... in fact i am gonna keep them shorts so i've got somethin to aim for... look good in them = i have officially 'made' it!

I don't think I've ever been a size 8 in my life!

I'm aiming to be back in my size 12s four months after the baba is here. After a hefty start, I've only put on 10lbs so far, so might just manage it!

 

[gemabee]

I love threads like this that get really heated and debated, mainly because I am nosey and like a good bitch lol!!!

These threads are even more heated as all us ladies have raging hormones and feel fiercely protective over our bumps and children and think that we have the correct attitude to pregnancy and parenting, otherwise your opinion would be different!!

I personally have not drank during pregnancy as I didn't really drink before but if I did drink before that is not to say that I would of had the odd glass of cider/beer/wine. I don't really have a strong opinion on having the odd bit of alcohol and as I said I don't have any as I don't particularly like the taste.

On the other hand my vice is coca-cola (that is my alcohol) and I have given up my full fat coke for diet caffine free coke , it is just not the same!!! Although last night I did indulge in 2 cans of full fat coke and it was pure absolute heaven and I enjoyed every minute of it hehe!!!

Also I had a soft boiled egg how very naughty of me!!!!

not wantin to start off yet another debate... but my mw actually told me that the asparatame in diet coke was worse for u than the small amount of caffeine in full fat coke... so feel free to have full fat coke... i just finished off a large macdonalds coke nd it was goooood
xx

 

[gemabee]

i don't need lycra i need spanx... my mum depressed me the other day nd told me that i will never ever be a size 8 ever again.
i beg to differ mother... i'll be like a woman possessed tryin to lose weight... in fact i am gonna keep them shorts so i've got somethin to aim for... look good in them = i have officially 'made' it!

I don't think I've ever been a size 8 in my life!

I'm aiming to be back in my size 12s four months after the baba is here. After a hefty start, I've only put on 10lbs so far, so might just manage it!

i've put on atleast 2 stone... i no longer weigh myself!!
i only have a small frame so i really want to get back in my size 8's
xx

 

[DanielleM]

I love threads like this that get really heated and debated, mainly because I am nosey and like a good bitch lol!!!

These threads are even more heated as all us ladies have raging hormones and feel fiercely protective over our bumps and children and think that we have the correct attitude to pregnancy and parenting, otherwise your opinion would be different!!

I personally have not drank during pregnancy as I didn't really drink before but if I did drink before that is not to say that I would of had the odd glass of cider/beer/wine. I don't really have a strong opinion on having the odd bit of alcohol and as I said I don't have any as I don't particularly like the taste.

On the other hand my vice is coca-cola (that is my alcohol) and I have given up my full fat coke for diet caffine free coke , it is just not the same!!! Although last night I did indulge in 2 cans of full fat coke and it was pure absolute heaven and I enjoyed every minute of it hehe!!!

Also I had a soft boiled egg how very naughty of me!!!!

not wantin to start off yet another debate... but my mw actually told me that the asparatame in diet coke was worse for u than the small amount of caffeine in full fat coke... so feel free to have full fat coke... i just finished off a large macdonalds coke nd it was goooood
xx

Haha great stuff!!! I only have the diet stuff when I really need too have moved on to cordial and water really. But on the other hand McDonald's coke is better than the big O!!! Why does it taste so much nicer than normal coke? its the best!!!

 

[Pippasdvision]

I never used to drink before pregnancy but I had 2 glasses of sparkling wine last week and then another 1 last night I am almost craving it lol! I do not plan to let it become a habit but I think 1 every now and then is okay.

I am also on a diet at the moment, I am larger than average and do not want to be huge at the end of the pregnancy. Having had long discussions with My hospital doctor and my MW i am sorta following slimming world but not religously. That way I am loosing weight but I can have something if I want. I have lost 10 lb since I found out I was pregnant but is slowing right down now and loosing about 1lb every week if I am lucky.

 

[ttcgeordie]

hay pippa did you get your free slimmingworld vouchers from your midwife? if not i would ask as they do do them got mine a few weeks ago x

 

[gemabee]

I love threads like this that get really heated and debated, mainly because I am nosey and like a good bitch lol!!!

These threads are even more heated as all us ladies have raging hormones and feel fiercely protective over our bumps and children and think that we have the correct attitude to pregnancy and parenting, otherwise your opinion would be different!!

I personally have not drank during pregnancy as I didn't really drink before but if I did drink before that is not to say that I would of had the odd glass of cider/beer/wine. I don't really have a strong opinion on having the odd bit of alcohol and as I said I don't have any as I don't particularly like the taste.

On the other hand my vice is coca-cola (that is my alcohol) and I have given up my full fat coke for diet caffine free coke , it is just not the same!!! Although last night I did indulge in 2 cans of full fat coke and it was pure absolute heaven and I enjoyed every minute of it hehe!!!

Also I had a soft boiled egg how very naughty of me!!!!

not wantin to start off yet another debate... but my mw actually told me that the asparatame in diet coke was worse for u than the small amount of caffeine in full fat coke... so feel free to have full fat coke... i just finished off a large macdonalds coke nd it was goooood
xx

Haha great stuff!!! I only have the diet stuff when I really need too have moved on to cordial and water really. But on the other hand McDonald's coke is better than the big O!!! Why does it taste so much nicer than normal coke? its the best!!!

mmmmmm macdonalds coke is the BEST... EVER!!!
xx

 

[minkymoo]

I had a runny egg yesterday too! I've given up trying not to!

 

[gemabee]

I had a runny egg yesterday too! I've given up trying not to!

i'd never actually eaten egg before in my life ever!!
don't know why i jus never have...
but after i got pregnant (before i actually knew i was pregnant)... i had crazy manic cravings for eggs... didn't like it but i had to eat it all!!
seein as i didn't like it i've not eaten it again... but everyone was tellin me i was pregnant for craving it nd i told them to sod off!!

 

[SBB]

It also makes me laugh on here when people say they're not judging, and then in the next sentence they judge. Have an opinion by all means but don't judge others and subtly hint at a possible lack of care for their unborn or their future parenting skills. We can't all be 'perfect'.

It's little wonder that women on here are scared to speak the truth or ask for help with something for fear of being labelled a bad mother.

I just rile at comments along the lines of 'would you give your baby a glass of wine to drink/cigarette to smoke/runny egg or chunk of stilton to eat?' Well of course we f**ing wouldn't..... dont be so ridiculous. This is why many women won't 'own up' to things or ask for advice.

Sorry, just makes me mad. It's not always about food or drink either, it can be anything that makes people judgemental.

Someone, somewhere on here will be making someone else feel guilty for their bloody pram choice!

This is obviously aimed at me as I made that comment. That's fine I honestly didn't expect to post it and for no-one to say anything about it.

I have my opinion, and in having that opinion, I don't see how it's possible not to judge others. I never said 'I'm not judging but.....'
I'm against alcohol during pregnancy, if people want to do it, it's their body, their baby, their decision. I can't pretend though that I don't think it's a bit wrong. That's simply my opinion. I am perfectly aware others opinions differ, and people possibly think I'm ridiculous for being so strict about it...
I don't think that women who choose to drink don't care about their babies. Or will be bad mothers.

How can it be a legitimate question? Do you REALLY think someone would do that??? It's an insult to a persons intelligence. Giving a glass of wine direcly to a newborn is absolutely nothing like having a sip of red wine or beer every 3 months or so.

Would you put an exhaust pipe in your babies mouth? No? Of course you wouldn't. It might surprise you to know that everytime you walk down a busy street you are consuming toxins equivalent to a mild smoker (and I know this for a fact having been part of research) without you even knowing it, and this happens every day, to everyone, day in and day out.

You cannot protect your baby from everything and people have feedom of choice. Glass houses and all that.

I don't think someone would give alcohol to their born baby. BUT I stand by what I said, how is that so very different to giving a baby alcohol via the placenta?? And I'm not comparing it to having one sip every 3 months. I don't see how this is insulting

As Shanandboc said the exhaust thing is really not the same. Alcohol/cigarettes/caffeine etc are avoidable, you choose if you put them into your body. Short of wearing a mask for 9 months car fumes are fairly unavoidable.

Of course people have freedom of choice. As someone else said everyone would be very dull if we all thought the same!

x x x

 

[minkymoo]

lol

I've never eaten fish in my life but I wish I could crave it because i looks delicious and is so good for you but the thought of it in my mouth makes me heave.

 

[minkymoo]

That's all I was trying to say too, that it's an individual's choice but they shouldn't have their parenting skills questioned by others.

I actually commend all those who chose not to do what we 'shouldn't' but not everyone can manage it and some are frankly confused out of their minds with it all. I saw the other day that we aren't supposed to have bloody mcdonald's ice cream. Never heard of that in my life, and yes, of course consuming alcohol *may* be harmful but so is tea, coffee and coke apparently but no-one ever gets panned for that.

I was simply trying to point out that regulations change ALL the time and that no matter what we do we cannot prevent exposure from everything, and this will be even worse when LO's are here. And yes, I know that we shouldn't 'purposefully' allow more toxins, but frankly, we do.

My comment wasn't actually aimed at any one person in particular, I just personally cannot bear the judging of others when NONE of us are perfect and have made what others might consider the right choices in any aspect of life. I've seen it and been on the receiving end of it too many times on here.

Like I said before, someone somewhere is always criticising another person's choice for something.

God, I need a drink now!

 

[Aunty E]

I didn't drink in the first tri, but I've had the odd glass of wine since I hit second tri. I drank the odd glass during the second and third trimester with Imogen as well. I don't know if that makes me a hypocrite for being totally against smoking in pregnancy, but all my doctor friends seem to think that the occasional glass of wine is fine and the occasional cigarette is not. I don't think I could smoke when I was pregnant, I use to have nightmares about it.

But I ate a ton of brie last month, and actually I have let Imogen have a drop of white wine spritzer. Not winning any parent of the year awards here.

 

[gemabee]

That's all I was trying to say too, that it's an individual's choice but they shouldn't have their parenting skills questioned by others.

I actually commend all those who chose not to do what we 'shouldn't' but not everyone can manage it and some are frankly confused out of their minds with it all. I saw the other day that we aren't supposed to have bloody mcdonald's ice cream. Never heard of that in my life, and yes, of course consuming alcohol *may* be harmful but so is tea, coffee and coke apparently but no-one ever gets panned for that.

I was simply trying to point out that regulations change ALL the time and that no matter what we do we cannot prevent exposure from everything, and this will be even worse when LO's are here. And yes, I know that we shouldn't 'purposefully' allow more toxins, but frankly, we do.

My comment wasn't actually aimed at any one person in particular, I just personally cannot bear the judging of others when NONE of us are perfect and have made what others might consider the right choices in any aspect of life. I've seen it and been on the receiving end of it too many times on here.

Like I said before, someone somewhere is always criticising another person's choice for something.

God, I need a drink now!

oh crap... i heard we could have macdonalds ice cream but not other soft ice cream (out of a machine)... because places like ice cream vans nd seaside shops don't regularly clean their machines resultin in a build up of listeria... but in macdonalds they have a regular cleaning schedule nd show due diligence so have no listeria in the machines.
i bloody hope so anyway... i just DESTROYED a mcflurry.
xx

 

[minkymoo]

I didn't drink in the first tri, but I've had the odd glass of wine since I hit second tri. I drank the odd glass during the second and third trimester with Imogen as well. I don't know if that makes me a hypocrite for being totally against smoking in pregnancy, but all my doctor friends seem to think that the occasional glass of wine is fine and the occasional cigarette is not. I don't think I could smoke when I was pregnant, I use to have nightmares about it.

But I ate a ton of brie last month, and actually I have let Imogen have a drop of white wine spritzer. Not winning any parent of the year awards here.

Ha ha!

 

[minkymoo]

That's all I was trying to say too, that it's an individual's choice but they shouldn't have their parenting skills questioned by others.

I actually commend all those who chose not to do what we 'shouldn't' but not everyone can manage it and some are frankly confused out of their minds with it all. I saw the other day that we aren't supposed to have bloody mcdonald's ice cream. Never heard of that in my life, and yes, of course consuming alcohol *may* be harmful but so is tea, coffee and coke apparently but no-one ever gets panned for that.

I was simply trying to point out that regulations change ALL the time and that no matter what we do we cannot prevent exposure from everything, and this will be even worse when LO's are here. And yes, I know that we shouldn't 'purposefully' allow more toxins, but frankly, we do.

My comment wasn't actually aimed at any one person in particular, I just personally cannot bear the judging of others when NONE of us are perfect and have made what others might consider the right choices in any aspect of life. I've seen it and been on the receiving end of it too many times on here.

Like I said before, someone somewhere is always criticising another person's choice for something.

God, I need a drink now!

oh crap... i heard we could have macdonalds ice cream but not other soft ice cream (out of a machine)... because places like ice cream vans nd seaside shops don't regularly clean their machines resultin in a build up of listeria... but in macdonalds they have a regular cleaning schedule nd show due diligence so have no listeria in the machines.
i bloody hope so anyway... i just DESTROYED a mcflurry.
xx

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it.

I've had nuts, quiche and allsorts.

Everything in moderation.

 

[mummyzilla]

Oh also with regard to mcflurrys, I read that soft ice cream from ice cream machines is a healthrisk for listeria as mentioned above, but I still eat mcflurrys cos I figure they must have very high health and safety code to follow. I guess its the same that I would eat a burger from beefeater but would think twice about a vendor van.

 

[Aunty E]

Oh and reading back a bit I also drink gallons of full fat coke and McDonalds ice cream sundaes (YUM) and I still drink huge iced coffees (really helps the MS for some reason). I'm so much more laid back this time than last time.

Now I really want a macdonalds, with a huge coke and an ice cream sundae. Might have to get in the car when Mog wakes up from her nap...

 

[miamix]

As I am reading this I am enjoying a small glass of red...

I didn't drink during first tri but since then I am allowing myself a glass on the weekend if I fancy it, which I don't always - last couple of weekends I haven't.

I only drink very nice, pricy wine at the mo. I figure since it is occasional I may as well go for something good. No expense spared for my baby I have quite expensive taste anyway, and not really into spirits, aside from gin, but I haven't fancied it, and like to kid myself that there are health benefits associated with red wine (who knows whether there are or not? Just one more thing the 'authorities' continually change their minds about).

My grandmother, mother, MIL and GMILs drank a healthy amount when pregnant and the NHS guidelines change weekly; I personally don't believe there is any harm in the occasional glass. I'm not a scientist and not everyone will agree with this but it isn't their body or their baby...

this made me laugh! i too enjoy a good red, my friend who owns a restaurant brings back wine from italy and i have had a few bottles from her since 12 weeks not that i have had them all to me!!!! i will save that till after baby i do enjoy a glass on the weekend and if i want it i will have it in moderation x

I haven't had a drink since I found out I was pregnant, and I found out the day before my period was suppose to arrive..

But I also agree with Goddess25, I do drink but NOT to get drunk, although I have gotten drunk before, it's not a good feeling.. But I know my limit and at home I keep bottles of wine because I do like the occassional drink or two.. but that's it.

This is kind of my point (one I don't think others agree with here but hey ho) - I don't drink to get drunk so I will drink small amounts of good, expensive wine because I personally don't get the point where I feel "I will need more" or, frankly, pissed! Most of the time I'll have a couple of sips then pass the glass over to my OH to finish. Maybe it's the European link - my baby's family are Italian and they certainly don't follow the same "rules" we are told to here, but then again Britain is known for its bad attitude to alcohol. You only need to look at the high streets on a Saturday night to see the problems. Unfortunately many people do not understand the art of alcohol (ie, how to enjoy a drink for its taste rather than its intoxicating effects) or how to drink in a civilised way and this is one of the main reasons that the advice keeps going back to "0 alcohol in pregnancy"; because women abuse the advice if it is any more flexible than this.

I'm in the minority on this one, however I have read and read on the subjects, spoke to doctors and a genetic councillor on the subject of alcohol.

People dont drink because of the risk of FAS or FASD which is a terrible terrible thing where children are malformed due to their mothers alcohol abuse.

It is interesting that the occurences of these 2 things are more documented in the US especially amongst ethnic and poorer backgrounds....(the reasons for this are below, the middle classes dont have the same badgering etc)
There is no denying FAS as there are many features associated with it, facial deformities being one of them and it is easier to diagnose these children.
Yet Europe has more lienient alcohol guidelines

Children who have been "diagnosed" with FASD (the lesser form, spectrum disorder) have been badgered into admitting they drunk during pregnancy, no account for prenatal diet, exposure to drugs, chemicals other than alcohol. With symptoms such as ADHD, ASD, moderate learning difficulties they have basically wanted a reason and alcohol although a contributing factor will not have been the only factor in these children having these conditions.
I work in a 90% muslim school where the mothers dont drink, and here is a shocker, we have children with all these things and the mothers didnt touch a drop.

I have a friend that works within genetics and councilling of mothers with children born with such conditions and most opinions off the record is that you have to pack away ALOT of alcohol, (talking alcoholic levels here) to damage your baby.

Also UCL (university college London) also did some research on the effects of light drinking on babies which actually had a positive effect, boys were less likely to have ADHD and girls less likely to have social and emotional problems.

https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/news-articles/08010/08103101

Only 3 years ago the Uk was saying a glass of wine was safe to have a day, and the only reason NICE revoked this advice is because women went on benders, saving up their glasses and having a pile on the weekend, or overdoing it and having 1 HUGE glass of wine.

A good rule of thumb to go by when pregnant is if you are safe to drive you are safe to carry a baby. If you want a drink have one, but make sure you have had some food, drink it slowly, enjoy it have some water with it.

I'm probably going to get hammered for my opinion etc but as I said I have done a lot of reading and asking questions on the subject because I was confused about all the conflicting advice so I thought I'd make my own mind up through some research.

A bit of food for thought

Delly xxx

btw those who do want a glass First Cape have done a Cafe collection which has half the alcohol, its available in sainsburys and I have to say, YUM YUM!!

I have seen some of the research you posted and I have to say that I am inclined to err on this side of the fence.

"Only 3 years ago the Uk was saying a glass of wine was safe to have a day, and the only reason NICE revoked this advice is because women went on benders, saving up their glasses and having a pile on the weekend, or overdoing it and having 1 HUGE glass of wine."

Exactly.

"A good rule of thumb to go by when pregnant is if you are safe to drive you are safe to carry a baby. If you want a drink have one, but make sure you have had some food, drink it slowly, enjoy it have some water with it."

This, in my opinion, is a good piece of advice.

threads like this never end well, can people not agree to disagree without slagging off another persons choice- as this is what t is a choice i chose a 1/4 glass of champagne at my friends wedding just as some choose to abstain
wouldnt life be boring if we all thought and did the same

Hear hear.

As I am reading this I am enjoying a small glass of red...

I didn't drink during first tri but since then I am allowing myself a glass on the weekend if I fancy it, which I don't always - last couple of weekends I haven't.

I only drink very nice, pricy wine at the mo. I figure since it is occasional I may as well go for something good. No expense spared for my baby I have quite expensive taste anyway, and not really into spirits, aside from gin, but I haven't fancied it, and like to kid myself that there are health benefits associated with red wine (who knows whether there are or not? Just one more thing the 'authorities' continually change their minds about).

My grandmother, mother, MIL and GMILs drank a healthy amount when pregnant and the NHS guidelines change weekly; I personally don't believe there is any harm in the occasional glass. I'm not a scientist and not everyone will agree with this but it isn't their body or their baby...

ive posted before that the odd drink in pregnancy doesnt bother me, but i dont like that comment as i can just picture ur baby drinking wine

Well, obviously he's not. If I have a small amount he has even less.

No intention of offending you whatsoever!

So you admit that you realise your baby is getting some of the glass of wine that you have?

And you dont think that his size and the fact that he is developing and growing, its not having an effect on him at all?

I don't think I need to "admit" anything; this might suggest I'm guilty of something, and I'm not. I am conscious of what I am putting into my body, and I am conscious of the fact that I am pregnant. I am also an intelligent individual capable of making informed choices, for herself and her baby, as I'm sure you are too, whatever your choices may be.

In answer to your second question, I think starcrossed's comment (I have quoted it somewhere above) gives light to my rationale on the subject.