Kate McCann releasing a book...

[AppleBlossom]

I assume the only reason the McCann's weren't done for neglect was because they were in Portugal and so technically under Portugese law, which I assume is more tolerant of it?

Not at all - in fact the Portuguese are even stricter on it than we are here ... and it carries a jail sentence if harm has come to a child as a result of them being left alone :

Which may well be why the McCanns stick to this "there is no evidence that Madeleine has come to any harm" stuff.

It's widely believed that the Portuguese didn't prosecute them for neglect because of pressure from the UK not to.

Ahh I see!

How has that not been looked into more!? I find that very worrying.

Basically because the dogs' reactions aren't proof in and of themselves - the dogs are there to pinpoint areas that need to be looked at more closely.

Samples were taken from the car and the clothes etc and sent to the FSS (Forensic Science Service) in Birmingham. Then there was all this confusion and the forensic evidence was declared to be 'inconclusive' and the samples were destroyed by the lab.

Personally I just can't think of any valid reason why a cadaver dog would alert to a wardrobe in the apartment, behind the apartment settee, under a bush on the apartment patio, a T shirt belonging to the missing child, the child's soft toy, a few items of clothing belonging to the child's mother and the back of a hire car not hired until after she had disappeared .... but it's all circumstantial

she started making up excuses about why the teddy smelt and why the car smelt etc, I mean taking the teddy to work with her which is why it smelt like corpse? Something just doesn't sit right.

Same. I wouldn't take my child's favourite toy into work if I knew I was going to be around corpses. Not exactly hygienic is it? And why would you take it anyway? It's a cuddly toy, not a stapler..?

 

[TattiesMum]

Ah interesting I'll have a read of that Also, where would they have hidden the body that it couldn't be found for them 24 days? Considering the place was supposedly being searched thoroughly. I don't know why I'm asking you questions as though you're directly involved in the investigation but you seem alot more clued up than most of us

Ahhh.... well that's a very good question - and one which has a LOT of different theories - some more wildly impossible than others LOL.

Personally I'm a fan of keeping things simple when it comes to theories (yet another reason why I never believed in the 'abduction'), so I'm inclined to believe that her body was buried in sand/sandy subsoil during that time.

Sand drains well, which would lead to mummification to a large extent and no cadaver dogs were used until Eddie and Keela arrived in the July.... personally I tend towards the belief that the body wasn't moved until such time as the imminent arrival of the dogs was made known - after all why would you move a body unless you had to? Bear in mind what I do for a living ... I'm pretty aware of the practicalities.

I'm not an expert lol - but it is a case that has fascinated me from the off so I have read (and forgotten!) a lot about the case - I quite simply don't believe that she was abducted - I never did

There is a wealth of fascinating information out there - but the Amaral Book is a good place to start

 

[LoraLoo]

Ah interesting I'll have a read of that Also, where would they have hidden the body that it couldn't be found for them 24 days? Considering the place was supposedly being searched thoroughly. I don't know why I'm asking you questions as though you're directly involved in the investigation but you seem alot more clued up than most of us

Ahhh.... well that's a very good question - and one which has a LOT of different theories - some more wildly impossible than others LOL.

Personally I'm a fan of keeping things simple when it comes to theories (yet another reason why I never believed in the 'abduction'), so I'm inclined to believe that her body was buried in sand/sandy subsoil during that time.

Sand drains well, which would lead to mummification to a large extent and no cadaver dogs were used until Eddie and Keela arrived in the July.... personally I tend towards the belief that the body wasn't moved until such time as the imminent arrival of the dogs was made known - after all why would you move a body unless you had to?

I'm not an expert lol - but it is a case that has fascinated me from the off so I have read (and forgotten!) a lot about the case - I quite simply don't believe that she was abducted - I never did

There is a wealth of fascinating information out there - but the Amaral Book is a good place to start

Would it have been possible for her body to have been 'disposed of' hours before she was even reported missing? Sure someone said that Maddie wasnt seen at all that day, as they didnt go to the beach with the others??

 

[AppleBlossom]

I'm on Youtube looking at some of the interviews they did. Look at this one, when they're questioned about sedatives. As well as almost stammering over being asked, Gerry quite obviously "scratches" his ear as he talks about it. I know that is a classic sign that someone isn't being fully honest. Coincidence?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5jtmkXXv58

 

[AppleBlossom]

And near the end of this one, he says they are sure that Madeleine was alive when she was taken from the apartment. Why would she not be alive when taken from the apartment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Av3rvsj7E&feature=related

 

[special_kala]

he trys his best not to look that woman in the eyes...shifty

 

[TattiesMum]

Would it have been possible for her body to have been 'disposed of' hours before she was even reported missing? Sure someone said that Maddie wasnt seen at all that day, as they didnt go to the beach with the others??

She was signed into and out of the creche that afternoon - so whilst it is possible that something happened earlier than the time she was reported missing (and entirely probable if one believes the Smith sighting - https://www.mccannfiles.com/id162.html)
it can't have been earlier than 5.30pm though https://www.mccannfiles.com/id351.html

You know, it's been such a long time since I last really looked at this stuff - I'd forgotten just how much detailed information there is out there ... so much more than the UK media have ever made public

 

[Rhi_Rhi1]

i haven't read any of this SORRY but i always sort of thought MAYBE they killed her by accident ? didn't they give her sedatives ? x

 

[Midnight_Fairy]

Ugghh it gives me the shivers

 

[special_kala]

And near the end of this one, he says they are sure that Madeleine was alive when she was taken from the apartment. Why would she not be alive when taken from the apartment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Av3rvsj7E&feature=related

I can understand why they would say that tbh. You would have to keep telling yourself your child was alive and wouldnt want the police or anyone else to give up hope eithier

 

[Blah11]

ugh why take her on holiday to put her constantly in a creche anyway.

 

[Laura2919]

And near the end of this one, he says they are sure that Madeleine was alive when she was taken from the apartment. Why would she not be alive when taken from the apartment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1Av3rvsj7E&feature=related

I can understand why they would say that tbh. You would have to keep telling yourself your child was alive and wouldnt want the police or anyone else to give up hope eithier

I agree.

 

[special_kala]

I guess there is a chance that they are just very cold people which is making them look guilty.

 

[Midnight_Fairy]

I guess there is a chance that they are just very cold people which is making them look guilty.

That is an option, I for one rarely use direct eye contact, I hate it (Im not a weirdo honest lol) I just dont like doing it and I feel like I look awkward alot of the time!

 

[Yammas]

This may sound harsh but i dont hold any sympathy for them sure its terrible what happend but for the life of me i cant understand why youd leave THREE children under 3 alone especially when thier in a foreign country -.-

I dont like eye contact either but thats mainly because i heve an eye condition that makes them wobble and i dont want people to pick up on it

 

[AppleBlossom]

There's a lot of interesting stuff on youtube, interviews and things. You only have to watch them very closely to see that there is something not right about the way they act.

The reason they kids were left alone every night is because the McCann's didn't want "strangers" looking after them (there was apparently a babysitting service offered in the apartments) However, the children were left for 7 hours a day in the care of these "strangers" in the creche...?

 

[special_kala]

There's a lot of interesting stuff on youtube, interviews and things. You only have to watch them very closely to see that there is something not right about the way they act.

The reason they kids were left alone every night is because the McCann's didn't want "strangers" looking after them (there was apparently a babysitting service offered in the apartments) However, the children were left for 7 hours a day in the care of these "strangers" in the creche...?

Good point!

 

[TattiesMum]

I guess there is a chance that they are just very cold people which is making them look guilty.

Well yes ... but that doesn't explain stuff like the sniffer dogs

 

[Yammas]

Why not jus leave them at home with relatives then if they were nt going to spend any thime with them and if they didnt want to leave them with 'strangers' who im sure must have been qualified and checked then they should have stayed with them and isnt leaving them in a creche pretty much the same thing ... something is very off there

 

[levichips]

they do act very strange in interviews and one with seditives that very strange how he reacts and they look at each other it is all very strange and nothing adds up!! and police must have had some reason to question them because that isn't normal procedure is it? just very weird and they so calm personally i would be in bits!!!