Kate McCann releasing a book...

[levichips]

https://www.femalefirst.co.uk/womens-issues/Madeleine+McCann-11797.html

if this is true what she said i cannot understand what they were thinking leving them the next night with doors unlocked!!

 

[Tasha]

It is all circumstancial, so they would never be convicted on that. And the DNA is classed as matches in the UK but not quite high enough to be matches in Portugal, I think that is what was said any way

 

[CRWx]

it makes me so angry that they wouldn't co-operate

 

[LoraLoo]

https://www.femalefirst.co.uk/womens-issues/Madeleine+McCann-11797.html

if this is true what she said i cannot understand what they were thinking leving them the next night with doors unlocked!!

This bit really upset me "The possible missed opportunity was during breakfast on the day Madeleine vanished, when the little girl disconcerted her mother by asking: ‘Why didn't you come when Sean and I cried last night?’" Poor children, and them to leave them again! And if Maddie mentioned an intruder too, why would you? You wouldnt!

And yes she probably left the doors unlocked the next night because she still doesnt think what they did was wrong

 

[CRWx]

that bit about her asking made me get shivers!

 

[Samemka]

IDK whether this is of any real value but found this on the mccann files website:

Kate said: "It really isn't easy," coping. "Some days are better than others. ... There's days when you think, 'I can't do this anymore,' and you just want to press a button, and we're all gone, and it's all finished, and we're all together and gone. Wherever. But you can't, you know. Just occasionally you'll have a -- if you're having a really bad day, which we do. And you can't help but think that."

She continues by saying that they will be "all together and gone". The only way they could be "all together", in such a scenario as she describes, is if she knows that Madeleine is already dead.

TBH I wonder if it's more a case of, if they didn't have anything to do with it (which I strongly doubt), deep down she believes Maddie is dead, without sounding morbid I imagine that's an 'easier' situation than not knowing who she's with, what happened to her etc - not saying any of it would be easy but YKWIM!!

 

[levichips]

https://www.femalefirst.co.uk/womens-issues/Madeleine+McCann-11797.html

if this is true what she said i cannot understand what they were thinking leving them the next night with doors unlocked!!

This bit really upset me "The possible missed opportunity was during breakfast on the day Madeleine vanished, when the little girl disconcerted her mother by asking: ‘Why didn't you come when Sean and I cried last night?’" Poor children, and them to leave them again! And if Maddie mentioned an intruder too, why would you? You wouldnt!

And yes she probably left the doors unlocked the next night because she still doesnt think what they did was wrong

i know broke my heart i can't even imagine how i'd feel if my 3 yr old said that to me i'd be so upset and angry with myself and she says it just like is normal thing to do to leave you children on their own i just don't understand what they were thinking well it obviously wasn't their children x

 

[angelmummy]

I honestly don't know what to think anymore. I read some things and think it must be her parents, then others make me think no they would not do anything and it must be an intruder.

All I do know is!! I wish the proper truth would come out so we all knew for definite!! If maddie is alive somewhere then she should be with her parents and siblings and if she is dead then they at least should be able to have a funeral and grieve and say goodbye properly.

And if they did do something then they should be locked up for spinning the whole word such a story and hiding their actions!!

 

[AppleBlossom]

I still can't believe that Gerry McCann described finding his daughter had vanished was "like finding out you're overdrawn on your student loan"

I mean, WTF? It's not even near on par...

 

[EmziixBo0o]

couldnt they reopen the case? + look into all these things?

Yes they could ... all that it requires to re-open the case is for the McCanns to ask the Portuguese Authorities to re-open it and to agree to take part in a reconstruction and answer some questions.

Cant the police re open it and just bring them in for questioning whether they agree or not?

Was about to say that! surely they can go behind the mccanns back + just look into everything, do a proper search everywhere properly!

 

[Samemka]

And yes she probably left the doors unlocked the next night because she still doesnt think what they did was wrong

They don't think they did anything wrong. Gerry said that they were 'performing their own baby listening service' and it was like dining in the garden. He also refers to the guilt they felt rather than feel.

For me it beggars belief that if, as we're led to believe, Maddie was snatched because they left her on her own, they wouldn't feel responsible, and they wouldn't feel constant guilt. If they were there, it wouldn't have happened - how can they not feel you did something wrong?

Probably because that's not what happened anyway!

 

[Samemka]

Recalling the moment she found her daughter's bed empty, Kate says: "There was 20 seconds of disbelief where I thought, 'That can't be right'. I was checking for her. Then there was panic and fear. That was the first thing that hit. I was screaming her name. I ran to the group. Everyone was the same. It was total fear.

"I never thought for one second that she'd walked out. I knew someone had been in the apartment because of the way it had been left.


"But I knew she wouldn't walk out anyway. There wasn't a shadow of a doubt in my mind she'd been taken."

So the apartment was a mess yet not one scrap of forensic evidence pointing to anyone having been in the room was found? I don't believe it!

 

[AppleBlossom]

The McCann's were, and still are, heavily protected by the government over here. If the McCann's don't want to co-operate and re-open the investigation then they have full backing not to by a lot of people in high places. Plus they have employed a number of top lawyers who of course, would defend their right not to

 

[CRWx]

nothing but HER fingerprints were found ffs! It's obvious is she would of been taken, there would be evidence! unless they went in a full forensic gear, then it would be pretty damn obvious if anyone saw someone dressed like that! I just feel so sorry for poor little Maddie

 

[bbyno1]

Im suprised so many people think they had something to do with it.
I thought i was one of the few to be honest,before this thread came up!

I think something else needs to be done. They have got away too lightly

 

[CRWx]

couldn't agree more Ellie i think they should be questioned, made to take a lie detector test and if proven guilty put in bloody jail!x

 

[// arcadia]

All i know is there's a whole load of leads pointing to the maccans and no evidence at all pointing to an abduction. All their stories are flawed and inconsistent. Their actions and choices after maddie was taken are frankly bizare. It just needs one good person with the authority to look into this and find the real truth.

 

[Samemka]

https://www.mccannfiles.com/id16.html

"But she admits it was a decision that torments her with every waking moment. "We've doubted what we did," Kate says. "It's hard to answer the question, 'Were we wrong to leave them?' If I'd had to think for one second, 'Should we have dinner and leave them?' I wouldn't have done it.

But Kate says she and Gerry have never blamed each other for that night. She says: "We have a strong relationship. We don't row. We talk a lot and that is vital at the moment."

This infuriates me! So their daughter has been snatched & they find it difficult to answer the question were the wrong to leave her? And they don't blame each other....who DO they blame?

If it did happen as they say it did there comes a point when you hold your hands up & say you made the worst mistake possible & will never get over the guilt. They seem to struggle to admit they even made a mistake & any guilt they may have had is gone. TBH it disgusts me!

 

[Every Rose]

I don't really know what to think about all this.

I feel very sorry for Madeleine and I can't honestly say I think she is alive right now.

I do feel sympathy for the McCanns as a family. But I understand why people are objecting to their decision being called a mistake when it was a planned and apparently repeated action to leave the children alone.

I will never understand why any of the parents in their group decided it would be okay to leave the children alone, even if they did check on them throughout the night. And that is something that I feel is overlooked. It wasn't just Kate who left children. She and Gerry chose to leave their three children, not just Kate, but there were other parents in the group who made the same choice and whose children didn't disappear and who aren't hated or the object of calls to have them prosecuted. Someone said that when the twins grow up Kate and Gerry might get their comeuppence but there are other children growing up who could easily have been taken in Madeleine's place whose parents might 'deserve' the same 'comeuppence' but aren't experiencing this because they were the lucky ones who got away with a bad decision (to put it at its kindest).

Yet people tend to vilify Kate above anybody else. If was assume Madeleine was taken by a stranger and the McCanns have no more knowledge than the rest of us then I fully understand why Kate would write this book. She is the figure of most people's hate and she is Madeleine's mother. I'd write any amount of books to try and raise money to get my child back. I can understand why she has done this. Many people are aware of Madeleine but time is passing, the search can't continue without money and some people are starting to forget. Kate will have known that reigniting interest in the case might help Madeleine but she would also have known that it would reignite this debate about their possible guilt, the theories, the accusations and the hate. I wouldn't want that attention if I had something to hide but if I was innocent and desperate for news of my child I would take it all without question.

I was under the impression that they could easily see their apartments and that those apartments were just over a small courtyard (thanks Kala for providing the link to show just how far away they were and how much was really between them.)

But even if they could easily see and reach them I don't think it was a good idea. After all, if you are having a meal with friends you are not going to be staring at your apartment all the time, you will be looking away, chatting, talking to waiters, looking at your plate, going to the toilet and a hundred other things to take your eyes and your mind off watching the apartment.

Plus, even if you were staring right at the apartment, you would have no idea what was going on inside with three very small children.

It's not a decision I could ever see myself making, not once, not twice, not ever.

I also didn't realise that they had left the children alone the night before and that has shocked me.

But now I know that I am a bit confused about the overdose theory. If they had realised that two of the three children had been distressed and frightened and they intended to medicate them, wouldn't they medicate them all? And if that was the case, and they mistakenly both gave Madeleine a dose of something, wouldn't they also have given the twins a repeat dose as well? And the twins were smaller and so surely more likely to overdose and die.

Also if someone took Madeleine there are lots of reasons why they might chose her above the twins or not take all three of them. Unfortunately it's the fact that they chose her that makes me think she isn't alive any more.

It would be easier to take one child than two or three children for a start

There is a small chance someone saw Madeleine and wanted her to raise as their own, she looked like a lovely and charming little girl. But it would be far easier to take one of the twins if you were longing for a child to pass off as your own (or as recently adopted) than to take a child just short of four years of age, who would remember her 'other' family and her name etc for much longer. So I think if that were the reason then it would be one of the twins that had been taken.

But if it was someone who wanted to harm or abuse her, perhaps taking her to order, then I think she was the most likely to be taken. The twins were so young and I know that some sick people do abuse children that young I wonder if some would find them too young and Madeleine was the 'right' age, sick as that makes me feel, not too young but not too old. It's sick and I feel ill at the thought that someone would think a child of almost four was the 'right' age but I think it might explain why it was her and not all of them or one of the others.

I do think though that one day we will find out the truth of the matter.

 

[AppleBlossom]

They'll never be tried. They have every right to refuse lie detector tests, reconstructions, not commenting during interogation. They have used some of the money from Maddie's raised funds to hire top lawyers. There is lack of real evidence. There are inconsistencies but they play their part in front of the cameras well enough for the majority to believe they are just grief stricken parents looking to find some answers. Personally, if my child had gone missing I would never allow the case to be closed, that is tantamount to giving up. Something the McCann's can do easily because they know what happened that night and they know Madeleine isn't coming back