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mk8 - sorry to hear that you think AF is on the way again 
Hope you have a fab holiday and come back re-energised and ready to take on the the next step!
Hope everyone else is well. I had egg collection today - feeling sore and tired, so won't go on. Have done a full account in my journal, so please do have a read if you want. We got 4 eggs, which isn't great, but it is what it is.
Feeling quite low at the moment - I cannot stress enough how hard it is going through this process. Will get a fertilisation report tomorrow and will have an idea then whether they will do 2, 3 or 5 day transfer.
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Hope you have a fab holiday and come back re-energised and ready to take on the the next step!Hope everyone else is well. I had egg collection today - feeling sore and tired, so won't go on. Have done a full account in my journal, so please do have a read if you want. We got 4 eggs, which isn't great, but it is what it is.
Feeling quite low at the moment - I cannot stress enough how hard it is going through this process. Will get a fertilisation report tomorrow and will have an idea then whether they will do 2, 3 or 5 day transfer.
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Sophie- rest up. Will check out your journal and post there also. I am hoping those are 4 very strong eggs for you!
So AF is almost in full flow. It's getting heavier but doesnt quite classify as AF yet. I dont know if it is stress or if it's the clomid that is making me spot for 2 days before AF. Happened in cycle 1, spotted just a day in cycle 2 so I thought it was improving but now its back to its old tricks. HMPF! I am really worried that I have hydrosalpinx or something as I have been having bilateral pelvic pain on and off in the past year. It is a bit weird in that it started a couple of months after TTC- I wonder whether it is stress related? Sigh... But you're right Sophie, I am going to try to enjoy my holiday and come back and see what the doc says. Who knows, maybe I will get my BFP?
So AF is almost in full flow. It's getting heavier but doesnt quite classify as AF yet. I dont know if it is stress or if it's the clomid that is making me spot for 2 days before AF. Happened in cycle 1, spotted just a day in cycle 2 so I thought it was improving but now its back to its old tricks. HMPF! I am really worried that I have hydrosalpinx or something as I have been having bilateral pelvic pain on and off in the past year. It is a bit weird in that it started a couple of months after TTC- I wonder whether it is stress related? Sigh... But you're right Sophie, I am going to try to enjoy my holiday and come back and see what the doc says. Who knows, maybe I will get my BFP?
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Thanks leeze. I see the docs when i return from hols - mar. He will refer me for an hsg and i guess there will be a wait for it. He told me to cont with clomid until the scan up to a max of 6 doses. Im also going to ask for day 21 tests to see how my progesterone level has changed on clomid.
How are you doing hun? Ok i hope!!!!
Clanger- how are you hun? Hope youre bith not finding the little ones too tiring.
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How are you doing hun? Ok i hope!!!!
Clanger- how are you hun? Hope youre bith not finding the little ones too tiring.
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Well, fingers crossed you get your BFP in the next couple months and don't need an HSG. We're doing well, had our first giggle from Kia this week which was amazing. Is tiring but so worth it. Hoping for a lucky feb and march for the London girls xxx
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Sophiebee-have yet to read your journal...but guessing pupo means pregged up until proved otherwise!?An exciting but anxiety provoking state to be in I bet.The process sounds unbelievably hard-thinking of you everything crossed.
Mk8-so sorry about af-hope the holiday and moving towards a hsg makes you feel things are progressing.It really does suck though-thinking of you.When's next docs app?
Leeze a giggle that sounds gorgeous.Your lo is so lovely sleeping so well for you.How's planning permission going?You excited to get started on new place or so busy with your baby you can't think!?Loved the baby whisperer stuff and regular naps definately helping here-thanks for sharing-you are lovely!The whole shush pay thing doesn't work for my little guy and getting to sleep can be a battle-hoping will improve over time as he is a good sleeper when he gets there like his Daddy!He is gorgeous and keeping me very busy but I do think of you all and hope to get online more soon!
Sophiebee-have yet to read your journal...but guessing pupo means pregged up until proved otherwise!?An exciting but anxiety provoking state to be in I bet.The process sounds unbelievably hard-thinking of you everything crossed.
Mk8-so sorry about af-hope the holiday and moving towards a hsg makes you feel things are progressing.It really does suck though-thinking of you.When's next docs app?
Leeze a giggle that sounds gorgeous.Your lo is so lovely sleeping so well for you.How's planning permission going?You excited to get started on new place or so busy with your baby you can't think!?Loved the baby whisperer stuff and regular naps definately helping here-thanks for sharing-you are lovely!The whole shush pay thing doesn't work for my little guy and getting to sleep can be a battle-hoping will improve over time as he is a good sleeper when he gets there like his Daddy!He is gorgeous and keeping me very busy but I do think of you all and hope to get online more soon!
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Great to hear from you, Clanger. Glad the baby whisperer stuff helped. Shh pat doesn't always work for Kia, we have to improvise sometimes. Somehow we've discovered she likes it when you sing row row the boat and rub her tummy, and letting her suck my finger for about 10 seconds often calms her then she self-soothes by sucking her own thumb. It's great now she can do this as this has really helped and sometimes when she wakes in the night she sucks her thumb and gets herself back to sleep. Mk8, wishing you a fab and relaxing holiday, hoping some good news round the corner for you. Soph, keeping it all crossed this is your time right now xxx
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Ps due to get decision on planning permission in next week or so. Partly excited about it but know it's gonna be a lot of work so also dreading it a bit! Be great when it's all done though, need to focus on the end result!
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Ooh, Clanger - lovely to hear from you
Yes, I've been more active on my journal than here as it felt more appropriate, but do have a read when you get the chance. You are right: PUPO = pregnant until proven otherwise. I just had the one embryo survive, so it is our last little chance going Han Solo as we speak. To say I'm up and down at the moment is an understatement!
My official test date is a week today (22nd Feb) but I am probably going to test on Saturday. Scared to do it though, so we'll see!
Most exciting thing is that I'm not spotting - I'm the equivalent of 9dpo and I'm still all clear on KnickerWatch, which is the furthest I've got for years.
Glad to hear all is going well with you. Will of course post any BFP/BFN news here
Yes, I've been more active on my journal than here as it felt more appropriate, but do have a read when you get the chance. You are right: PUPO = pregnant until proven otherwise. I just had the one embryo survive, so it is our last little chance going Han Solo as we speak. To say I'm up and down at the moment is an understatement!
My official test date is a week today (22nd Feb) but I am probably going to test on Saturday. Scared to do it though, so we'll see!
Most exciting thing is that I'm not spotting - I'm the equivalent of 9dpo and I'm still all clear on KnickerWatch, which is the furthest I've got for years.
Glad to hear all is going well with you. Will of course post any BFP/BFN news here
Pupo is great isnt it!Commented on your journal Mrs Bee and am routing for you.Everything crossed for testing, though let me be a cautionary tale about early testing (the bfp that is now snuggled on my chest was a super light line at about 16 dpo on an "early" test) and I also had my usual pre af spotting so don't panic if knocker watch shows up something.
Ooops knocker watch = knicker watch....though suppose some sort of "knocker watch" could be helpful?!Anyway hope the distractions going well-seen any good dvds?Must be so hard to reign the terror/excitement/overwhelming hope/fear of disappointment in at the moment.I so want this for you and M thinking of you.
Leeze Kia sounds so cute.Glad you have some getting to sleep tricks up your sleeves.How are the chuckles going?Is she a good daytime napper now?Bet you're having fun buying outfits for her now she's getting bigger .Hoping all goes well with planning permission for your lovely family home.
I am good-getting up to 6.5 stretches of sleep at night here and there which is amazing and am so proud of my little man!it's a struggle to get him to sleep during the day though without tears...which I can't take without picking him up and cuddling him?Also....whoever said breast feeding makes the weight fall off is a dirty liar!Could be all the choc and cake I stuff down justified by the " extra breastfeeding calorie intake" needed though!
Mk8 I hope your hol is fab.
Ooops knocker watch = knicker watch....though suppose some sort of "knocker watch" could be helpful?!Anyway hope the distractions going well-seen any good dvds?Must be so hard to reign the terror/excitement/overwhelming hope/fear of disappointment in at the moment.I so want this for you and M thinking of you.
Leeze Kia sounds so cute.Glad you have some getting to sleep tricks up your sleeves.How are the chuckles going?Is she a good daytime napper now?Bet you're having fun buying outfits for her now she's getting bigger .Hoping all goes well with planning permission for your lovely family home.
I am good-getting up to 6.5 stretches of sleep at night here and there which is amazing and am so proud of my little man!it's a struggle to get him to sleep during the day though without tears...which I can't take without picking him up and cuddling him?Also....whoever said breast feeding makes the weight fall off is a dirty liar!Could be all the choc and cake I stuff down justified by the " extra breastfeeding calorie intake" needed though!
Mk8 I hope your hol is fab.
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Thanks guys.
Just popping on to say that my TTC journey is pretty much over. I started spotting last night (and tested another BFN) and I'm now in full flow. I had an incredibly tearful night and morning, but am feeling a bit better now.
We'll obviously talk to the consultant about our options, but we had a good chat this morning and we're both agreed that unless he gives us a really good reason to expect that I would respond better another time, we're not going to do any more IVF cycles. We both know that this means, barring a serious miracle, we'll not have children of our own.
I'm going to be taking some time off this site to grieve and get my head clear. Thank you all for being such wonderful friends over the last 18 months. I wish you all the very best on your journeys through TTC and motherhood
Just popping on to say that my TTC journey is pretty much over. I started spotting last night (and tested another BFN) and I'm now in full flow. I had an incredibly tearful night and morning, but am feeling a bit better now.
We'll obviously talk to the consultant about our options, but we had a good chat this morning and we're both agreed that unless he gives us a really good reason to expect that I would respond better another time, we're not going to do any more IVF cycles. We both know that this means, barring a serious miracle, we'll not have children of our own.
I'm going to be taking some time off this site to grieve and get my head clear. Thank you all for being such wonderful friends over the last 18 months. I wish you all the very best on your journeys through TTC and motherhood
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Sophie, just logged on from holiday to check how you were, im really sorry to hear af arrived.
I hope you are able to get some good advice from the docs. Totally understand you may need time out from bnb. I wish you all the best and thank you for being such a great support to me also. Hope to see you again at some point, in the mean time, take care.
I hope you are able to get some good advice from the docs. Totally understand you may need time out from bnb. I wish you all the best and thank you for being such a great support to me also. Hope to see you again at some point, in the mean time, take care.
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Soph, I know I've already posted on your journal but I just wanted to say again how deeply sorry I am that the IVF cycle didn't work for you. It's understandable that you want time out from here. I hope you'll re-connect with us at some point, I'll certainly be thinking of you. I hope that you do get to realise your dreams of being a mummy one day, whether this is by a miracle or maybe by a different route from how you originally planned it to be. Big huge hugs
MK8 - I hope you're having a really fab holiday and having some quality time with Mr MK8. I look forward to hearing about it when you get back, and seeing where you next go on your TTC journey. Fingers crossed your time is coming very soon.
Clanger - 6.5 hours sleep at this stage is great! Good on your little man. Hopefully it will be no time at all when he's doing 8 hours. What are you trying to get him napping in the day? I've actually found with Kia that if I put her in a quiet dark room she will settle herself most of the time (this is the complete opposite from what I was doing originally!). She's still chuckling and generally pretty content although we've had a couple of meltdowns recently. She particularly seems to hate public toilets and normally starts screaming whenever we go in any! Hopefully she'll get over this!!
Hugs to all xxx
MK8 - I hope you're having a really fab holiday and having some quality time with Mr MK8. I look forward to hearing about it when you get back, and seeing where you next go on your TTC journey. Fingers crossed your time is coming very soon.
Clanger - 6.5 hours sleep at this stage is great! Good on your little man. Hopefully it will be no time at all when he's doing 8 hours. What are you trying to get him napping in the day? I've actually found with Kia that if I put her in a quiet dark room she will settle herself most of the time (this is the complete opposite from what I was doing originally!). She's still chuckling and generally pretty content although we've had a couple of meltdowns recently. She particularly seems to hate public toilets and normally starts screaming whenever we go in any! Hopefully she'll get over this!!
Hugs to all xxx
Also thinking of you Sophie, you've come through everything life has thrown at you this past year or so with nothing but dignity and strength and really hope a joy-filled new way forward is just round the corner. Hope you will update us after youve seen the consultant but fully appreciate you may need to take a break instead.
We should really rename this thread general Londoner support and cake thread as were all now on diferent journeys.
Mk8-hows the hol?
Leeze-Kia sounds like such a star. I resort to getting him to nap in his pram during the day...either take him out or rock him. Worry that this isnt great for self settling but figure actually getting the sleeps in is the most important thi ng and will work on how he gets to sleep later.Kia sounds like an anazing self-settler for her age. i WONDER WHAT IT IS ABOUT PUBLIC toilets though...
We should really rename this thread general Londoner support and cake thread as were all now on diferent journeys.
Mk8-hows the hol?
Leeze-Kia sounds like such a star. I resort to getting him to nap in his pram during the day...either take him out or rock him. Worry that this isnt great for self settling but figure actually getting the sleeps in is the most important thi ng and will work on how he gets to sleep later.Kia sounds like an anazing self-settler for her age. i WONDER WHAT IT IS ABOUT PUBLIC toilets though...
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Hi ladies, just got back. Holiday was great but now I'm back to see the TTC madness again. Bfn yest and af cramps so I guess she's coming again!
Saw my doc who has referred me to see a fs - thought it was the hsg but he said I need an initial consultation. He keeps saying it will happen and to relax. Ugh. Think I need some time out to chill and genuinely try to relax from the TTC stress, so may be logging on slightly less. Hope you're well. Xx
Saw my doc who has referred me to see a fs - thought it was the hsg but he said I need an initial consultation. He keeps saying it will happen and to relax. Ugh. Think I need some time out to chill and genuinely try to relax from the TTC stress, so may be logging on slightly less. Hope you're well. Xx
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Hi all
Just to let you know that we saw the consultant yesterday and it wasn't very helpful. He recommended another IVF round, but to be honest he wasn't very convincing - he said they probably wouldn't make any changes to the protocol or dosage, despite my poor response. He said there wasn't any evidence that doing anything different would produce a different result, which may be true but I'm not going to take his word for it.
We have decided to look into the various private clinics and see if there are any that specialise in treating poor responders (I've heard good things about the Lister for example). We won't necessarily go for another round, but I think it might be one of those things that nags at us for years to come if we didn't explore all the options. My lovely family have offered money towards treatment if we do go ahead with another round, although the money thing was never really the issue - we'd have always found a way if we thought it was worth it.
Will let you know when we've decided on a clinic and had our consultation with them. Thanks for all your lovely words of support
Just to let you know that we saw the consultant yesterday and it wasn't very helpful. He recommended another IVF round, but to be honest he wasn't very convincing - he said they probably wouldn't make any changes to the protocol or dosage, despite my poor response. He said there wasn't any evidence that doing anything different would produce a different result, which may be true but I'm not going to take his word for it.
We have decided to look into the various private clinics and see if there are any that specialise in treating poor responders (I've heard good things about the Lister for example). We won't necessarily go for another round, but I think it might be one of those things that nags at us for years to come if we didn't explore all the options. My lovely family have offered money towards treatment if we do go ahead with another round, although the money thing was never really the issue - we'd have always found a way if we thought it was worth it.
Will let you know when we've decided on a clinic and had our consultation with them. Thanks for all your lovely words of support
Hi all,
Sophie that sounds like an excellent plan.Definately worth getting another perspective and weighing it all up.Do they know WHY some people don't respond as well as others?Is it just one of those things or is there a hormone based/physiological reason for it?Thinking of you and really hoping someone can suggest some steps foward that will increase the likelihood of healthy embryos.
Mk8-where was hol you jet setter.Hope you're wrong about af-what a shame to arrive back to witchface.Am really happy to hear you're seeing an fs though.You will be able to ask him or her all those questions you've been wanting answers too!
Leeze hope you and your clever little girl are good-planning permission update?
Sophie that sounds like an excellent plan.Definately worth getting another perspective and weighing it all up.Do they know WHY some people don't respond as well as others?Is it just one of those things or is there a hormone based/physiological reason for it?Thinking of you and really hoping someone can suggest some steps foward that will increase the likelihood of healthy embryos.
Mk8-where was hol you jet setter.Hope you're wrong about af-what a shame to arrive back to witchface.Am really happy to hear you're seeing an fs though.You will be able to ask him or her all those questions you've been wanting answers too!
Leeze hope you and your clever little girl are good-planning permission update?
