Low dropping levels but HB found?

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Yeah, surprisingly, I don't feel that 'stressed' necessarily. I have been praying about every 30 seconds or so that my baby will be ok, and that is keeping me from freaking out. But although it is keeping me from worrying too much, the constant hoping that my baby won't die is also stealing a lot of the joy and excitement from me. I still haven't told my BFF that I'm pregnant yet. I was hopeful that she might go shopping with me today and then I could tell her in person, but then yesterday she told me she didn't think she'd be able to go. Well, I felt so disappointed that now I don't even feel like telling her at all. If I tell her, it's just going to be a boring text message and that seems sooo anticlimactic. Blah. I guess I have a case of the "BFP blues." Although I have never heard of that before, I definitely have it.

Your levels were 486 at 4 weeks? That's unheard of! That is extremely high!!! I read a study about levels at 16 DPO indicating future pregnancy outcome, and a very large range was normal, and anything above 100 was pretty positive. It said anything about 300 at that point meant almost zero chance of miscarriage! I got my blood test at 15 DPO so I was just hoping to have a beta of 100 or so. If it is lower I will try not to freak out though. I don't think she is planning on checking if they are doubling. I could probably ask her too, but I am too tired to drive to the doctor's office and pick up another blood test form. I am soooo tired, detterose! I don't feel like doing anything. Plus, I really thought I'd want to see if my levels were doubling, but now I don't want to know. I just want to enjoy every second of this pregnancy until I possibly can. I don't want to find out ahead of time that something is going wrong. I just want to believe it could be okay for a little while longer.

When they checked my hCG last pregnancy it had only gotten up to 570 or so. I'm not sure if it got up higher and then started dropping, or if it only made it that high.

I am 4 weeks and 1 day today. I wish you could see my ticker! When I ask for an ultrasound I'll ask for one between 6 and 7 weeks because I definitely want to see a heartbeat. I am worried she will say no, though.

Unfortunately, I don't have a boss to inform to look out for me. My stress about this whole chemical business is that after the last m/c I e-mailed my supervisor about my concerns about some oil-based paint thinner they were using and how my doctor had told me to leave the office if any solvents were used next time I was pregnant. I thought she would be super supportive and find a discreet way for me to inform her if they ever used it so I could leave without causing any suspicion. Instead, she got really defensive. She got the 'safety officer' to research it who is my idiotic office-mate. She is a safety officer, but NOT a doctor; her expertise is construction safety. She didn't even research it and just told my boss it was fine. So, after that, my supervisor wouldn't even believe me that it was dangerous and got mad at me when I told her I felt the safety officer was being dismissive. So now I feel like I just have to fend for myself with this pregnancy. I asked to be informed when they were going to be using it, but she refused. So this time I am going to have to rely on my sense of smell and then make up an illness as soon as I notice anything. It's very distressing.

Haha, well I do hope I get slightly less irritable soon. I really don't like the feeling of wanting to punch everyone in the face all the time! I am looking forward to feeling "a little more human."

Wow, that sounds like a very tiring week. How frustrating about your car battery dying twice! Car troubles are the worst. You don't realize how much you depend on your vehicle until something suddenly happens to it! And that is really scary about those sounds you heard! If I couldn't get ahold of my dh, I definitely would have called the police as well! You were right to take as many precautions as you could.

Sounds like you had a very tiring day. I hope you had a good sleep last night. I had almost 11 hours of sleep last night, and before I went to bed I had a 30 minute nap on the couch...so hopefully that sustains me for at least a few hours. Are you done all your Christmas shopping yet? I am going to the mall today with a friend but I doubt I will get it all done. I hope you have a less tiring day today!

 

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I am glas you arent stressing too much but sad that you feel that you cant enjoy it as much as you should. Hopefully those feelings pass soon As for your BFF, too bad for her! She missed out on some very exciting news!! Do you think she will be offended if you msg her the news? My BFF was the first to know both times LOL. The first time I rocked up on her doorstep with the pee test and she drove me to the store while I sculled water so we could buy a digi.

Oh really?? I thought that was an average number judging by the levels they had for 4-5 weeks on my results. Aw sorry that you are so exhausted. Sounds exactly how I was. Just too damn tired to do anything! But it sounds very promising!

Aww I keep forgetting we cant see eachothers signatures on this part of the forum. Do they not do scans that early over there? Here in Australia, you get a dating scan as soon as you find out then after that you wait til 12 weeks.

Oh no! That is dreadful and they really should have been more supportive! Now I understand your worry. Hopefully you can make up a believable excuse to move yourself away from harm.

It was indeed a very tiring week. Glad to see the end of it. OH has the day off so I am hoping we can finally put up our tree today as it is Dec 1st after all!

Awww hehe poor tired pregnant lady. I remember what that was like. For the first tri, I was always passed out by 8pm! Last night I went to bed at 9 and slept til 5.30am because Hunter actually STTN for once! Woo hoo!!!

 

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P.S. We should totally follow eachother on instagram if you have it. That way when you announce your pregnancy I can follow your bump photos etc on there! Good idea? My IG is: dette_hunter

 

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P.P.S. LOL. I was doing my aero pilates while replying and missed the part about Xmas shopping! I am almost done! Just have to get some gift cards to send my nephews as they live 4 hours away and its a bit too expensive to post big presents. Then I am done How did you go? I bet you were exhausted! X

 

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Haha, that's awesome you told your BFF first both times! Last time I called dh first, and then immediately called my BFF, so she knew about 10 minutes after I took the test. I did end up telling her yesterday. The way I told her is that dh took my 4-week "baby bump" pic next to this chalkboard we have specifically for baby bump photos. So then I texted her and told her I was going to send her a "funny pic" but I sent her that pic! The annoying part was that she didn't reply for 20 minutes, but when she finally did see it she was thrilled. She can't wait to talk on the phone to discuss every detail, but we were both too busy yesterday.

Well 4-5 weeks is a pretty wide range! I am sure your numbers would have been right on track for about 4 weeks + 2 days but every day is sooo different since they double so fast! So if you were just 4 weeks +0 days then that was an excellent number!


Here they generally only do early scans if you're having bleeding or something is going wrong. Otherwise they do a dating scan at around 12 weeks (sometimes as early as 9 weeks though). So I'm not sure if my dr will tell me she can't do one unless I have signs of bleeding, or if she would be willing to do an early scan for reassurance.

Thank you. I will do whatever it takes to keep this baby safe and I'm sure I could get a dr's note for going home sick if they were really suspicious. But my baby's safety is the only important thing to me right now!

YAY That's great you might get to put your tree up today. I am very disappointed that we STILL haven't put our tree up. I really wanted it done in November, but I guess we're joining the December crowd. Last night we went to go buy Christmas lights since ours are mostly burnt out, and ended up spending $70 on extra decorations, wrapping paper, Christmas cards, and other things we didn't need. You should post a pic of your tree when it's up!

YAY for HUNTER STTN! That is so great! I hope he keeps that up. I bet you enjoyed that long sleep for once.


That's a great idea! I've added you on instagram now. My username is my full name so I'm not going to post it here, so just say yes to that friendship you request you get today. And it is sooo cool to know why your name is 'detterose' now! hehe.

That's great you're almost done shopping! Shopping was TERRIBLE yesterday. You're right that I was SO tired...and also my whole body was aching from carting around my heavy shopping bags everywhere. I went with my friend and I think she must have been in PMS, so we both had a TERRIBLE time. There were people swarming EVERYWHERE, long line-ups for everything, and the mall was way too warm! Ugh! At least we were both having a terrible time so we just kept saying to each other, "This is awful!" "Yep...it is." I didn't even get all of my shopping done. I got something for my mom, I finished shopping for my sister, and I now have 90% of my gift for my BFF, and about 80% of my gift for my dh. I still have to shop for my dad, my sister's hubby, and then one of my nephews and one of my nieces (the rest of dh's side is all done). I am hoping to get most of the rest done online because I'm so tired of shopping!

Enjoy your day!

 

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Oh my gosh, what a great way to tell her! I am so happy she is excited for you. So I hope you both get the chance to have that chat on the phone soon. I bet it will be really great for your friendship to have something lovely to bond over again But isnt it so annoying when you feel like your tapping your foot waiting for a reply!

I think I was 4 weeks on the dot. As I had my implanon removed the 26th of April and had a blazing positive on the 25th of May. They must have been high levels because my digi test said 3+ weeks and I was so confused because I couldnt have been over 4 weeks!

That really stinks about how they usually do scans at 12 weeks. What do they do for people who fall pregnant on the pill and have no idea how far they are? Here you can pretty much request a scan whenever. But for it to be bulk billed (free, basically) then you may have to wait a bit for an appt. Whereas if you pay for it, you can get int straight away and ultrasounds are like $190 and you only get $90 back from Medicare.

Exactly right. Baby comes first. And I am sure your dr will be supportive to give you a letter in that sort of situation.

Haha! We went out and got Christmas tree lights also. OH and I argued because he wanted white lights and I wanted multi coloured. I got my way

Well I spoke too soon. He woke up at 1.30 last night. But went back to bed after a bottle thankfully. I honestly think he will be like 2 or 3 by the time he fully STTN lol!

Yay accepted Haha yes. My first name is Bernadette but everyone calls me Dette and middle name is Rose But considering my IG is mostly Hunter, I changed my IG name to suit haha.

Oh I am so glad I am not alone! Shopping here is absolutely awful too. I think I am going to have to try and do it on my days off during the week, that way most people are working. Because even trying to find a carpark is a nightmare! But I bet you were super exhausted It will be nice when all the shopping is done Better yet, it will be nice when its Christmas!! But thank god for online shopping

You too! Its Monday morning here Time to get ready for work, damn

 

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We still haven't had that phone call but I stopped by her house on the way home from my parents' tonight and she gave me a pregnancy gift! She bought me a pregnancy book, a really sweet little card about how excited she is for the baby, and a cute little giraffe stuffed animal for the baby. So nice. And, yes, it was SOOO annoying waiting for that reply! hahah oh well, I guess that's what I get by sending it over text.

Ooh wow, those really were sky-high levels if you got a 3+ weeks at that point! That pregnancy was definitely destined to do well from the get-go. And now you have such an adorable baby boy! So wonderful.

Here, everything is under public health care so we don't have to pay for any scans, but that also means sometimes we have to wait a bit longer as well. When you're further along you *can* pay for a 3D ultrasound at a private clinic but I don't think there are any private clinics that offer regular ultrasounds.

Yay, I'm glad you got your way! I am SO a multi-coloured lights kind of girl and that is what we got as well. We actually decorated the tree today finally. I'll probably instagram it at some point.

Oh darn, that's too bad Hunter ended up waking up in the night again. But I really hope he starts STTN permanently soon for your own sanity!

That's a really cute name! Nice! I'm glad we have each other on there now and I can see lots of cute pics of Hunter.

That's a good idea to shop on a week day when you don't have to work. The malls would definitely be less of a nightmare then. Yeah, I'm super excited for Christmas to get here - especially because I have a week and a half off work! Do you get any Christmas holidays - or just the stats?

Aww, I hope you have a good day at work. I'm just going to bed (way too late for me), so tomorrow is going to be rough.

 

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Awww that is sooo lovely. How nice of her!! I bet that made it feel a bit more real for you too!!

Yeah he was definitely meant to be! And I am glad because he is the best thing that has ever happened to me.

Yeah so it is a bit like here in Australia. Except most doctors order a dating scan straight away. I think its mostly to estimate a due date and secondly to confirm it is viable. Which is great in a way. If only it was like that there! Let me know if your dr lets you get an early scan! Over here, they all do 3D scans and as long as you are booked to be bulk billed, then you dont have to pay for it. I had a 3D scan at my 12 week and 18 week scan

Multi coloured at more fun! And Hunter will prefer the colours too! He already tried getting at them Yay! Feels so nice to get the tree up doesnt it Cant wait to see pics.

Well I was supposed to have from the 23rd of Dec through to the 6th of Jan off but they accidently asked too many people to take leave so now I have to work a few days here and there. But I get Xmas Eve and Xmas off! but I bet you will welcome that week and a half off with open arms haha you must be so tired!

Awww I hope Monday is nice for you and you get your results back! Keep me updated x

 

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That definitely would be nice if it were common practice here to do an early scan right away. Lucky you! And that is really neat you get to have 3D scans as well! That is definitely not common practice here. My co-worker went to a 3D clinic and she brought back a bunch of video footage and pics of her baby. Very cool.

Hehe, I'm glad Hunter prefers the multi-coloured lights too. Has he been keeping away from the decorations so far? Yeah, it does feel great to get the tree up. Yours looks great, by the way!

Oh no! That's terrible that now you have to work a few days over the holidays. What a disappointment! I get the 23rd to the 2nd off so yeah it will be quite perfect. But I would have been very disappointed if any of those days were taken away from me. That's great you get Christmas Eve and Day off, though. Those are the best days...to me! I almost enjoy Christmas Eve more then Christmas Day sometimes!

Well, unfortunately, my Dr called my HOME PHONE while I was at work, so I never got the results. It's really frustrating, because dh was home all day but he didn't charge the phone, so he wasn't able to answer the phone since it was dead. If he had just not been lazy and put the phone on the charger, he could have answered and asked her to call my cell phone! Now I'll have to call back tomorrow and leave a message to call my cell. Ugh...it's such a hassle. And then that leaves the problem of now having anywhere to talk in private at work. I guess I'll have to ask my office-mate to leave the office for a few minutes, but she is snoopy and will want to know what the phone call was about later. Sigh.

How did your Monday go? I hope you weren't too tired. What are your Christmas plans with your family/friends this year? Does your family live nearby?

 

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Awww a video would have been amazing. My sister got a video too but that was about 7 years ago. When I asked, they said they didn't do them anymore

He has had a couple of swipes at the branches and has tried to rip off the skirt a few times but other than that he is being a lot better with it then I thought! I saw yours today, looks so lovely! Doesn't it feel more exciting when the tree is finally up?!

Yeah I am pretty disappointed. I would have really loved the 2 weeks off. Lord knows I need a bit of a holiday. Well as much as you can get with a baby anyway Christmas Eve night is so exciting, the countdown til the morning I feel like a big kid.

Oh no!! I am so sorry to hear that How annoying that DH could have answered if the phone were charged, that would have bugged me too. Aww, well I hope you get your results soon. Could you excuse yourself to a bathroom or outside to take the call??

Monday was quite laid back. We barely had any medicals on, and only a couple of drug screens, so I was able to catch up on paperwork which was good. I guess companies slow down at this time of year so less need to send employees to have medicals and stuff done. How about yourself?

Well OH has to work Christmas Day, from 2pm til 10pm. So no doubt our morning will be opening presents with Hunter and having breakfast and lunch. After that I might go visit my mum and her partner as they live about 5 minutes down the road. My dad lives close also but he usually spends Christmas at his sisters house. I don't really go there anymore as they spend it outside, and it's far too hot at this time of year, especially with a baby.

Have you got any plans or traditions??

Update on my cycle this time too, I think maybe Vit b6 days delay ovulation. FF says I ovd on CD18 this time. I will be worried if AF arrives at 27 days like it normally does because then my LP will be even shorter! But I was 4 days late last month and the only reason I could assume why is from the VitB6?

 

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That's too bad you couldn't get a video when you went.

Yes, it feels so exciting to have the tree up. I love that now I can just turn all the lights off upstairs and just sit with the warm glow of the Christmas tree in the evenings. It immediately makes my house feel warmer and cozier. I am glad Hunter hasn't been too bad about the tree being up.

Yeah, I'm a big kid at Christmas time too! It's hard not to be - it's just such a wonderful time of year. How many days do you actually have to work over the holidays?

Well - this is frustrating. I called my dr's office today and left a message for my doctor to call back with my results but this time to my cell phone. I carried my cell phone with me ALL day (even to the bathroom) but she never called! Weird. I don't know if she never got the message or what happened. I guess I'll try again tomorrow. I can't really go to the bathroom with the phone as that would seem really awkward. It's a very long walk all the way to the bathroom and people would be wondering why I was taking a phone call there. And I can't take it outside because it is freezing cold outside. I feel like I might freeze to death just walking to the car these days! But today I figured out that there *is* one empty office so I think if she calls I will just go to that office and close the door. People will notice, but it won't be as awkward as the other alternatives.


This week has been slower for us as well, but that makes for a more boring workday. Oh well. I am glad work was a bit more laid back for you!

Wow, that's seriously too bad your dh has to work on Christmas Day! What a shame! Dh and I will probably do our own little celebration on the morning of Christmas Eve, but then we spend the evening of Christmas Eve and the whole day on Christmas Day with my family. We open presents Christmas morning, have a big pancake breakfast after (or before), and then we have our traditional Christmas supper that night. Christmas Eve we usually spend playing board games as a family and maybe watching a Christmassy movie if we have time. We will also celebrate with dh's family on the Sunday before Christmas. His family doesn't have any hard and fast traditions but there are 5 little kids in that family so it's always fun watching them open presents and such (well, the kids anyway. 2 are just babies like Hunter!).


Yeah, I think Vit B6 delayed mine slightly as well. As soon as I suspected it might be delaying it, I stopped taking it for a while...so what I ended up doing was taking Vit B6 from cd1-cd7, and then taking a break until I ovulated. Then I resumed taking it after I'd ovulated for the TWW. Maybe you could try that next time?

My guess is you will not have a 27-day cycle this month. LP doesn't tend to change much, so if you ovulate later, you should just have a longer cycle this month. Let me know how it goes. Did you pay attention to which side you ovulated from?

Also - remember that even though you were "late" last month it was only because your LP went to a normal length. So if you assume your LP will be the same this month, you can figure out exactly when AF will start instead of fretting about it being "late" again. An LP of 10 just wasn't good so I think you'll have to embrace slightly longer cycles now.

 

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I have to work the 23rd, 30th and then the 3rd of January. So almost my usual working days, as I work Mondays, wednesdays and Fridays. But get the public holidays off which is good.

Oh no! I hope you get your results soon. It must be very frustrating though. I am lucky in the fact that I can always just see my own results. So I never have to wait around tapping my foot lol!

Awwww that sounds really exciting! It would be so nice to have a big family tradition. I unfortunately come from a bit of a broken family, my sister doesnt talk to my mum, parents dont talk and my other sister lives 4 hours away. So we dont really have a nice big family Christmas unfortunately. So I want to start one of our own for Hunter to always look forward to.

I think maybe I will try that. As my LP turned out to be 13 days long instead last cycle. Which is so much better than 10 and makes AF stay away a tad longer I ovulated from my right this cycle. I will have to remember which side to pay attention to next cycle.

I just know these longer cycles will always make me think I am pregnant

 

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Aww, that sucks. At least you have a 6-day stretch in there. But that really is no fun that you went from 2 weeks off to just barely having more time off than your usual schedule. Boo!

UGH! I called my dr's office today to ask if she ever got the message to call me back, and the receptionist told me that she still hadn't seen the message but that she would probably call this afternoon since she didn't have any patients. Well, I waited ALL DAY again for a phone call, and STILL NOTHING! I am getting sooo frustrated! It's not like I really need her to confirm the pregnancy before I'm convinced I'm really pregnant, but I'm very anxious for her to call because I would like to discuss getting an early scan. If she doesn't call, there will be no way for me to talk to her until my first pre-natal appointment on Dec. 30th when I will already be past 8 weeks. I really would like the scan before Christmas. That really is soo nice you can just see your own results when they come in, though!

I'm sorry to hear your family isn't as united as you'd like. That is too bad you don't have a nice big family Christmas together. But it makes it all the more important that you are making these traditions for Hunter now while he's young. This way he can grow up with wonderful traditions to look forward to!!! You are such a great mom!

Ooh, neat! I think once you TTC I would be especially curious which side you ovulate from so we can see if you end up getting pregnant on your right side. Hopefully if your cycles are consistently having a 13-day LP you will no longer think you are pregnant and just expect that as normal!

I am having some mild AF-like cramps right now. They are nothing major but still a bit disconcerting. I know cramps can be normal but I hate that feeling of AF being right around the corner. Did you ever get any cramping when you were pregnant with Hunter?

 

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Yeah, I guess I cant complain about that. The 6 days off will be nice. But they go so quickly

Awww seriously?! This must be getting so frustrating for you. Especially because your appointment is not until the end of the month. I hope they have made contact in the meantime and you have gotten some good news. I hope you get a scan because that would be the best ever Christmas present!!

Yeah I definitely want to make some nice traditions for our own little family. I just hope next year Oh doesnt have to work I would hate that Hunter will think his dad never gets to spend time with us for Christmas. At least this year he wont really notice.

Yeah I definitely will I have been so slack this month. Since FF pinpointed my O date I havent bothered temping or checking CP. I guess I will just take it as it comes this month and check temp closer to CD27 and then if AF still isnt here, keep temping til she comes. At least then I will know when to expect her next month.

I did actually. For the first few weeks and had mild bleeding around 5-6 weeks which was probably just IP. Has it settled down? How have you been? X

 

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Days off do go SO quickly. I always get the blues near the end of my holidays because it's so depressing to know I'll have to go back to work. Hopefully you can just cherish every minute of yours and you won't focus so much on the end.

Nope, no contact still. I have given up ever hearing from my doctor.

That would be sad if your husband had to work next Christmas. I'd imagine it would be more important that he's there when Hunter gets a bit older and can start remembering things. But you can always celebrate Christmas on an alternate day? My mom is a nurse so growing up she had to work Christmas Day every other year. We would just celebrate a few days early or late...or we'd sort of rearrange our traditions to fit in with her work schedule (which was difficult since she worked 12-hour shifts). Is there a reason your husband can't ever get time off at Christmas? Does he have to wait til his seniority allows him the holidays, or does everyone have to work?

It's understandable you've been slacking in the temping department. Now that you know you've Oved the temps don't really matter all that much since you're not TTC. You can get more obsessive with the charting once you're TTC again. I do agree it's handy near the end of the TWW to be able to anticipate the day AF will start.

Ooh, I didn't know you had some bleeding with Hunter. That is one thing I really hope I do not ever have in a healthy pregnancy. I know 50% of the time the baby is fine, but I cannot handle that kind of stress! My cramps have subsided, yes. The past few days I have been getting just very mild cramping for an hour or two in the evenings, but nothing for the rest of the time. So hopefully it's just stretching. And, to be honest, I'm not doing well. I am feeling very down about this pregnancy and just feel like I'm waiting for the inevitable. It has been very hard. In a way I envy you because you at least know that your body *is* capable of having a successful and healthy pregnancy. I know a loss is just as hard no matter when it happens, but I do think it would be reassuring for me if I knew that my body actually was capable of carrying a baby to full-term.

How are you doing? Any weekend plans? Last night dh and I went to see "Catching Fire" which was really good. Have you watched either of the Hunger Games movies?

 

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I think I will! Only because I am really disliking my job at the moment. So much to the point I am going to be looking for a new one in the new year. So I will most likely get very depressed!

Awww I cant believe it. You must be getting so over waiting around for this call. I cant believe they havent phoned you, especially considering the circumstances. I thought they would have for your piece of mind

Thats very true I guess. But not the same, if you know what I mean. Its kinda like celebrating your birthday on a different day. He has worked the last 3 Christmases. This year he was meant to have it off, but the manager is moving down south to run the new company ans another employees contract just ended. So they dont have enough staff for him to have it off this year

Yeah I hope I am better at it when we TTC. But I have just had my mind on so many other things that I keep forgetting. I just had to check what CD I waa even on haha.

Yeah thankfully it was only brown blood so I knew that meant old blood. My doctor did my bloods anyway to see how my levels were and they were 30000 at 5.5 weeks, so she said I had nothing to really stress over. Next day we had our U/S and there he was with a nice strong heartbeat.

It can still be very worrying. Especially when you have had a loss before. But if they arent getting intense and there is no bleeding accompanying it, try to relax. If there is, go straight to the hospital. I think a first time loss has made it a lot harder for you to trust your body is capable of holding a pregnancy. And I dont blame you. I still worry that maybe Hunter was just my miracle baby. Miscarriage can really mess with you Have you ever tried to meditate? It may help with all your stressors. Just an idea. X

I'm not too bad. OH has had the weekend off, so yesterday we braved the shops again to get out of the stinking sweaty house lol. I hate turning on the air con, electricity costs so much so I prefer to go to the shops on days like that and use theirs Hunter has been waking through the night again though so we are all really tired and grumpy

No I havent actually. Is it any good??

 

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I didn't know you've been disliking your job so much lately. Has it been since you started your new promotion? Or is it the people you work with/management, etc? I am sorry to hear you are going to be looking for a new job but I do hope you can find one where you will be happier. I can see how you would definitely get down near the end of your holidays, then.

I know...it's frustrating that she hasn't called. I am thinking of calling with a new message on Monday to tell her I am worried and would like to have my hCG checked.

That's awful that he was supposed to have Christmas off this year but he still didn't get it. I don't mind celebrating Christmas on a different day because to me what matters is that I'm with family and that we do all our usual traditions. There is definitely something to be said about the actual day, though. I hope your dh can get next year off.

When is AF due for you this time if your LP is 13 days again?

Yeah, if your hCG levels were that high there would definitely be no reason to worry about that spotting. I can't believe how high your levels were with Hunter. Did you suffer from really bad morning sickness?

I haven't had any spotting yet, so that's good. But I'm not feeling hopeful and yesterday dh and I were both pretty convinced the baby was probably dead. Today I feel slightly more hopeful but only because it's less painful than thinking otherwise. I don't think Hunter was just your miracle baby but I understand why you would think that. No matter what circumstances, miscarriages really do mess with our head and make it hard to trust that we will ever have a healthy baby again.

I am glad you got out of the house yesterday to use some of the mall's A/C instead of your own. It's definitely understandable that you wouldn't want to spend the money using it at your house! We don't have A/C so in the summer it is pretty unbearable but if we lived somewhere as hot as Australia I'd imagine we wouldn't be able to live without A/C! That is too bad Hunter is waking up in the night again! How frustrating! That would definitely make everyone feel tired and grumpy. I do hope he starts sleeping better soon.

Yeah, I really enjoyed the first two movies.

You sound really down today (or, well, yesterday when you wrote this). Are you okay?

 

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Yeah Its been getting progressively worse. Its the job and management. I think they sort of have it out for everyone. Everyones working on skeleton staff even while its still busy. And to make matters worse my boss straight out lied to my face about something on Friday and thats when I knew it was enough. The hard part will be finding something thats as flexible as this job with Hunter. And I am worried about future maternity leave when we have a second baby as not many places are willing to hold your job for you and give you the days and hours you want to work. There is a lot more behind it but it gets a bit confusing.

I definitely think you should do that fpr piece of mind. Its been over a week now and you still havent heard your initial results. That is ridiculous!

Yes thats very true. I guess I should not complain as he will still be spending the morning with us for the presents part at least. I just hope next year we have the whole day.

Well I am Cd27 today and I have not had a temp drop. So I should be due between 12-14th. My birthday is on the 13th so I hope she doesnt come then With my luck, she will. Especially because its Friday the 13th!!

I didnt actually have morning sickness! How funny is that. I was a bit nauseus in the mornings but if I ate as soon as I got up I would feel fine. I only spewed a total of 3 times through the pregnancy. I had crazy sore BBs and terrible heartburn to make up for it though

Oh no! Why do you feel that way?! Are you still having symptoms? If I were you, in that case, I would head to the hospital and tell a white lie that you are cramping or bleeding so they may do bloods or scan for your piece of mind. I am so sorry you have been feeling this way. That is awful And definitely not how any woman should have to feel during a pregnancy. I hope you get some reassurance soon x

Yeah the days have been getting up to 35 degrees here. Crazy hot Christmas day is usually always disgusting. So we will definitely be having our A/C on! I think its so strange you dont have A/C Is it common to not have it? Not many places here these days dont have it. If they dont its because they are incredibly old houses.

I will have to get OH to legally download it for us to watch :wink:

Yes we are super tired over here I think its a mix of sleep deprivation and just hating and dreading going to work. I havent felt this crappy for a while I just hope the week off work helps a little bit to pick me up.

But I will be fine. I am worried about you though

 

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Oh no...that's just awful about your work situation. When management starts getting evil and implementing really stupid things, that's when a job gets bad. And if they're overworking everyone by only having a skeleton staff, then that's a recipe for a lot of bad morale. I wish managers would start understanding that they can't just treat their employees like livestock! They need to be treated well and have their voices heard in order to feel good about their job, which in turn makes them better employees!

That is tough about the prospect of a new job not having the same flexibility with mat leave and such. Is it not the law in Australia to hold your job for you while on mat leave? I understand some places wouldn't want to give you flexible hours after but aren't they required to give you maternity leave? If you look around for part-time jobs, you can be choosy and find something that is just the 3-days-per-week you're working now. That way you can guarantee that you'll only have to work PT when you get back. And lots of jobs have opportunity to move up to full-time afterward if you wanted. Anyway, I hope it all sorts itself out soon!

I definitely think you should do that fpr piece of mind. Its been over a week now and you still havent heard your initial results. That is ridiculous!

Well, I finally heard from my doctor on Monday, so that was good. So I got my hCG checked yesterday and I'll get it checked again in one week. Of course, results take forever here so I didn't hear back about my results today but I am hoping to hear back tomorrow. My TSH was at 0.56 when I checked a couple weeks ago, so that is positive.

Yeah, I definitely hope you will have the whole day next year together as well. Everyone deserves to have the whole family together for Christmas. Are you going to make a fancy dinner?

Yikes, I hope AF doesn't start on your birthday! AF always ruins everything. I had no idea it was your birthday coming up! Do you have any fun plans to celebrate?

Ooh wow, that's interesting you didn't have morning sickness! It's actually funny how many people I know who didn't really have morning sickness at all, or just had it extremely mildly like it sounds like you did. I guess everyone reacts to the hormones differently. I hope my lack of morning sickness is just because I am one of those people who don't get it. I am definitely sensitive to smells, though. The smell in our break room at work has been making me dry retch lately. Yuck!

I don't have any major symptoms which is I guess why I am so worried - that coupled with the fact that I know my baby stopped developing at 4 w 6 d last time, so I feel like this pregnancy couldn't possibly go any differently. My boobs are just very slightly sore. But the good news is that they haven't gotten any less sore. I've actually been less tired, but I think it's because I've been going to bed so early and getting lots of extra sleep. And I am still extremely bloated, peeing lots, super moody, and I can't stop eating! Those are all symptoms but I guess I feel like the more reassuring symptoms are nausea and really sore boobs, which I am lacking. Thankfully I have these blood tests now to (hopefully) reassure me. I am terrified that they're going to indicate that it's all over, which will kill me. But I figure it's better to find out now than right over Christmas.

I would say that 99% of businesses have A/C here, but only about 40% of homes have A/C? That is just a guess but we have suuuuch cold winters for 6 months of the year, and we only have 2 hot months so most people just suffer through it. It's very expensive to get, so mostly only wealthier people have A/C. It makes sense that in Australia everyone would have it! To you guys, your A/C is like OUR furnace? We could NOT live without furnaces or we would literally freeze to death! A/C is just a luxury for us.

Ugh, yeah, I can imagine that work is really affecting your mood. When I am hating my job, it spills over into every aspect of my life. It's so hard to be happy when work sucks. So I do hope things improve soon and that you get some more sleep!

Thanks for your concern. I was in a terrible place this weekend, but I think you'll be happy to hear I've been slightly more optimistic the last couple days...mostly because I haven't had any spotting yet.

 

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Yeah it is super crappy. While I was on mat leave, a lot of our old staff left. Simply because we got a new practice manger in Sept 2012 who made all these big promises and then nothing changed, people who were being lazy kept getting away with it etc. So while I was gone we lost our office manager, supervisor and a coworker. And the replacement office manager is just letting the power get to her head. She used to be lovely, now she is bossy and doesn't care about anyone.

Yeah I think most places do.. I guess I have never had to be in the situation to find out though as I was guaranteed my job with this place. It's a bit scary to go somewhere else and risk it, if you know what I mean. But I am not going to actively start looking until the new year. I may apply for a part time job that's open at the hospital in the oncology ward. It's 38 hours a fortnight and I currently do 45 a fortnight. But the pay is more, so I would get paid the same for less hours!

Aww I am glad you finally heard and getting some beta hCGs done. What was your initial level if you don't mind my asking?? Fingers crossed for a speedy result for you tomorrow! And fantastic news on your TsH

I probably won't make a fancy dinner for Christmas to be honest as OH is working 2pm-10pm, so more likely have a big breakfast and lunch. Then something nice and small for Hunter and I for dinner! What are you planning for dinner?

Well I was wrong! AF got me today Making my cycle 28 days and LP back to 10 days. I am devastated... I have been taking my B6 daily so I don't know why it's back to 10 days, it just doesn't sound right. And worries me a lot that maybe I never will get another healthy pregnancy As for my bday plans, I am working 8:30-4:30 then my mum is watching Hunter so OH and I can go out to dinner, but that's about it! Birthdays get boring the older you are I think

Yeah it is funny because I certainly had morning sickness the last time when my levels didn't budge over 2200! Strange hey?? That along with exhaustion was what made me test! I have heard that MS can take til 6-8 weeks to show up though, so you might not be out of the clear yet

Those symptoms all sound pretty promising! But I know that the thought of having Ms and sore boobs would make it much more reassuring for you. It's funny how we will beg for those symptoms just to know baby is healthy. I have a good feeling about your little bean, try to stay positive You were blessed with this gift for a reason.

Ooh yes, that definitely makes sense It was 32 degrees still at 5pm today. So hot I can't wait for autumn/winter again!!

Isn't it funny how it seems to rule our life even outside of work!?! Totally unfair. I am only there 3 days a week but it's all I dread coming up to those days..

I am glad to hear you are feeling much better though. Try to focus on the silly season 14 more sleeps til Christmas!!!