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Goodness ladies this thread moves so fast, I can't keep up. That's awesome though. 
lolol Natalie, "Pete? Pete? PETER!!!" YESSS this is a regular part of my vocabulary, hahaha! And then when he actually hears the "PETER!" he's like, "WHAT???" Haha love him.
Sorry I'm out of the loop, what's your Dr appt to discuss? Sorry if I just missed it! In any case, good luck! Really soon now!
Meg I'm dying to know how your beer bottle swap trick turned out. I'd be afraid of forgetting which one was the fake.
And whaaaaat how did you bleed that much from a blood draw???? You poor thing.
Glad you're feeling better about the numbers from your beta. I'm sure it's so hard not to be so worried all the time. But I agree that the up-up-upward trend of your numbers is a great thing. I hope Monday's results bring you some peace. I think mild cramping is okay though. It feels that way when your uterus is growing. Though taking it easy and lots of fluids is always a good idea. 
Barb, glad it went well with Nathan giving you the injection! My DH would probably pass out, lol. Well, he really really does hate needles, but when the situation calls for it, I think he's tougher than he gives himself credit. Still I somehow think I'd wind up having to do it myself. Hope you tolerate everything well and this cycle is smooth sailing for you.
Sis4Us (sorry I don't know or don't remember your real name yet), that is soooo frustrating about the timing. So sorry. If it's ok I'll just keep hoping that maybe this time you won't need the help???
AFM, I was going to test today, but I had a massive temp dip (not yet recorded) so I decided to wait. A little early for me to be getting a temp dip (just barely above my cover line) as I'm 12 dpo and usually my LP is 13 days with some 14-day LPs in recent months. Still spotting bright red every day since 1 dpo, so 12 days straight now, WTH. Some days it's barely anything (like yesterday), but other days (like today) there's quite a bit. Soooo I just have no idea what's going on. I really want to get on with the Clomid next cycle, but I really don't know if it'll be clear to me when I should start taking it.
Anyway, guess I shouldn't get ahead of myself worrying. We'll see what tomorrow's temp does. But as crazy as this cycle has been, I'm not terribly optimistic.
Edit: Natalie, Hope you can get some sleep. I get insomnia in my luteal phase and it's the absolute worst.
lolol Natalie, "Pete? Pete? PETER!!!" YESSS this is a regular part of my vocabulary, hahaha! And then when he actually hears the "PETER!" he's like, "WHAT???" Haha love him.
Sorry I'm out of the loop, what's your Dr appt to discuss? Sorry if I just missed it! In any case, good luck! Really soon now!
Meg I'm dying to know how your beer bottle swap trick turned out. I'd be afraid of forgetting which one was the fake.
And whaaaaat how did you bleed that much from a blood draw???? You poor thing.Glad you're feeling better about the numbers from your beta.
I'm sure it's so hard not to be so worried all the time. But I agree that the up-up-upward trend of your numbers is a great thing. I hope Monday's results bring you some peace. I think mild cramping is okay though. It feels that way when your uterus is growing. Though taking it easy and lots of fluids is always a good idea. Barb, glad it went well with Nathan giving you the injection! My DH would probably pass out, lol. Well, he really really does hate needles, but when the situation calls for it, I think he's tougher than he gives himself credit. Still I somehow think I'd wind up having to do it myself.
Hope you tolerate everything well and this cycle is smooth sailing for you.Sis4Us (sorry I don't know or don't remember your real name yet), that is soooo frustrating about the timing. So sorry. If it's ok I'll just keep hoping that maybe this time you won't need the help???
AFM, I was going to test today, but I had a massive temp dip (not yet recorded) so I decided to wait. A little early for me to be getting a temp dip (just barely above my cover line) as I'm 12 dpo and usually my LP is 13 days with some 14-day LPs in recent months. Still spotting bright red every day since 1 dpo, so 12 days straight now, WTH. Some days it's barely anything (like yesterday), but other days (like today) there's quite a bit. Soooo I just have no idea what's going on. I really want to get on with the Clomid next cycle, but I really don't know if it'll be clear to me when I should start taking it.
Anyway, guess I shouldn't get ahead of myself worrying. We'll see what tomorrow's temp does. But as crazy as this cycle has been, I'm not terribly optimistic.Edit: Natalie,
Hope you can get some sleep. I get insomnia in my luteal phase and it's the absolute worst. 
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Nat! Poor thing ! I hope you are asleep now and Pete is caring for Harry! Hehe. I've been there many a time. It's the worst! But I don't have a child to watch so I sant imagine. Hope you're doing ok xo
Erin - it wasn't that much blood but it did suck nonetheless lol. Good for you holding out on testing ! And everytime I have zero symptoms and am not optimistic I get a bfp it seems LOL so I'm rooting for you !
Barbs let us know how you're doing xx
It's 6am here and trouble sleeping myself. Going to try though. My boobs are sore and little twinges here and there but that's it. Xx
Erin - it wasn't that much blood but it did suck nonetheless lol. Good for you holding out on testing ! And everytime I have zero symptoms and am not optimistic I get a bfp it seems LOL so I'm rooting for you !
Barbs let us know how you're doing xx
It's 6am here and trouble sleeping myself. Going to try though. My boobs are sore and little twinges here and there but that's it. Xx
Awe thanks ladies...yes I eventually fell asleep...past 6 this morning...Peter got up with Harry.
I got about 4hrs in the end...but wow I am all out of sinc and tired still..my knee hurts sooo bad
Anyways ladies I hope to be able to respond better to your posts later...
Meg I hope you managed to get back to sleep Hun...what a horrid feeling eh
Love to my ladies
Natalie xxx
I got about 4hrs in the end...but wow I am all out of sinc and tired still..my knee hurts sooo bad
Anyways ladies I hope to be able to respond better to your posts later...
Meg I hope you managed to get back to sleep Hun...what a horrid feeling eh
Love to my ladies
Natalie xxx
Oh I forgot to say...this is terrible....I received an email this morning from bnb ...it was a update alert on a post from one of the ladies that was pg...nobody had seen her since nov when she posted that she wasn't feeling to great.
It turns out that she got the h1n1 virus and her baby had to be induced...(thankfully baby is doing great now) but then they induced the lady into a coma and put a trachea in and she still hasn't been able to meet her new born... soooo so sad for her...
What an awful thing to happen to such a great lady...and I am sooo glad she is "coming out of the worst now" ...
I can't imagine how she must feel right now....
Anyways I thought I'd share that as I am pleased she is ok now.
Later ladies
Natalie xxx
It turns out that she got the h1n1 virus and her baby had to be induced...(thankfully baby is doing great now) but then they induced the lady into a coma and put a trachea in and she still hasn't been able to meet her new born...
soooo so sad for her...What an awful thing to happen to such a great lady...and I am sooo glad she is "coming out of the worst now" ...
I can't imagine how she must feel right now....
Anyways I thought I'd share that as I am pleased she is ok now.
Later ladies
Natalie xxx
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Hey girls!
Sorry to hear you can't sleep Nat!
How are you? I have read back a page yet so forgive me...did you test today?
Meg good to hear you have more symptoms.
I have felt some boob burning from my drugs. Other than that, my injection site is sore
I still can't so my own injection. That's ok though. Today's shot hurt!!!
We are having a super lazy day watching Cori right now.
Meg I can't wait to hear tomorrow's results. I bet you can't wait too!
How are you feeling? Any better about the results?
Sorry to hear you can't sleep Nat!
How are you? I have read back a page yet so forgive me...did you test today?
Meg good to hear you have more symptoms.
I have felt some boob burning from my drugs. Other than that, my injection site is sore
I still can't so my own injection. That's ok though. Today's shot hurt!!!
We are having a super lazy day
watching Cori right now. Meg I can't wait to hear tomorrow's results. I bet you can't wait too!
How are you feeling? Any better about the results?
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Good luck testing today!!! Can't wait to hear the results.Goodness ladies this thread moves so fast, I can't keep up. That's awesome though.
lolol Natalie, "Pete? Pete? PETER!!!" YESSS this is a regular part of my vocabulary, hahaha! And then when he actually hears the "PETER!" he's like, "WHAT???" Haha love him.
Sorry I'm out of the loop, what's your Dr appt to discuss? Sorry if I just missed it! In any case, good luck! Really soon now!
Meg I'm dying to know how your beer bottle swap trick turned out. I'd be afraid of forgetting which one was the fake.
Glad you're feeling better about the numbers from your beta.
Barb, glad it went well with Nathan giving you the injection! My DH would probably pass out, lol. Well, he really really does hate needles, but when the situation calls for it, I think he's tougher than he gives himself credit. Still I somehow think I'd wind up having to do it myself.
Sis4Us (sorry I don't know or don't remember your real name yet), that is soooo frustrating about the timing. So sorry. If it's ok I'll just keep hoping that maybe this time you won't need the help???
AFM, I was going to test today, but I had a massive temp dip (not yet recorded) so I decided to wait. A little early for me to be getting a temp dip (just barely above my cover line) as I'm 12 dpo and usually my LP is 13 days with some 14-day LPs in recent months. Still spotting bright red every day since 1 dpo, so 12 days straight now, WTH. Some days it's barely anything (like yesterday), but other days (like today) there's quite a bit. Soooo I just have no idea what's going on. I really want to get on with the Clomid next cycle, but I really don't know if it'll be clear to me when I should start taking it.
Edit: Natalie,
Are you planning on any assisted conception at some point?
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Ugh ladies...I'm having a REALLY bad night...it's 3:30 am ...I can't sleep....I'm in a bad mood too
Hope you are all having a better night than me lol
Natalie xxx
Hey Hun. Sorry I must missed what's going on today?
Why are you upset?
Xo
Today was a BFN which I'm okay with this time because I expected it and really had no hope for a bfp. I mostly just wanted to rule out chemical.
My plan for now is to do Clomid for 3 cycles then Clomid + IUI for a couple of cycles if it comes down to it. I think if the Clomid + IUI doesn't do it, I'll maybe see an RE (about 3 hours away from home). But personally I don't think I could do IVF partly because of cost and partly because I know I couldn't handle leftover embryos.
My plan for now is to do Clomid for 3 cycles then Clomid + IUI for a couple of cycles if it comes down to it. I think if the Clomid + IUI doesn't do it, I'll maybe see an RE (about 3 hours away from home). But personally I don't think I could do IVF partly because of cost and partly because I know I couldn't handle leftover embryos.
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You don't see an Re before starting IUI?
I wish you the best. Your chances will improve so much!
Is this your first time with IUI?
Yeah it's tricky. The embryos left over. I've thought of that. But I really want a baby so I am willing to deal with what ever happens.
I wish you the best. Your chances will improve so much!
Is this your first time with IUI?
Yeah it's tricky. The embryos left over. I've thought of that. But I really want a baby so I am willing to deal with what ever happens.
Yeah it's understandable. I understand the choice, I just know personally I would struggle with that too much.
And no I just see my regular ob-gyn unless we go through most of the standard stuff and still nothing is working. I imagine he'd refer for IVF but I don't know??? But for an IUI he can do it. Yes, if it comes down to it, this would be my first time for an IUI. I had no problem conceiving last two times (1st time resulted in DD, second time resulted in m/c).
And no I just see my regular ob-gyn unless we go through most of the standard stuff and still nothing is working. I imagine he'd refer for IVF but I don't know??? But for an IUI he can do it. Yes, if it comes down to it, this would be my first time for an IUI. I had no problem conceiving last two times (1st time resulted in DD, second time resulted in m/c).
Hi ladies...
You'll have to excuse my terrible grammar tonight..I'm still shattered.
I will try my best to reply to earlier posts here altho I can't promise much as my brain is just fried.lol
I have no idea what happend last night- why I just couldn't sleep...
I get terrible insomnia and I was soooo tired but the sleep did not come to me last night...I tried getting up and having a cool glass of milk...then I tried to read a book(to make my eyes tired) that didn't work...I whatched a bit of Fox News...I just layed in the dark...I tried to get back up again and play stupid games online...I just could not sleep at all....but pete woke me around 6:30 am this morning and asked why I was asleep on the sofa(had he done something to upset Me- bless)
I told him about my awfull night and that I'd only just nodded off so he summonsed me to bed and told me he would take care of Harry for the morning whilst I caught up on a little sleep...he came back to bed with me and he just held me whilst I burst into tears and fell asleep.
Gees I felt sooo down last night....a mixture of my poorly painfull knee and not being able to do very much for and with Harry made me feel like a useless mom :; and also that of the "timing of the year" and my emptiness I felt inside- my heart ached
But when I woke up today I felt "somewhat" better for the cry...and tuff ended myself up and told myself to move forward now...good things are waiting us.
NOW GO GET EM
Lol
So today I went to mil...and peters sisters were all there waiting for me to arrive...and when I walked in I was inundated with pressies for my birthday- of course I opened them too soon lol...
Oh they spiolt me...I felt so special
They are lovely and I am soo lucky to have them in my life.
So ladies ...how have we all been today?....good I hopes.
Meg...how are you feeling petal?...how did your night go with your friends last night...did the "fake" beer work ....?
Barbs....ouch sore bottom syndrome...have you thought about ice before and after injection site love?...
Wow I bet you feel great knowing that er is almost here...so exciting.
I can't wait to hear how the blastings go
Erin...tee hee ...too funny about the rePeteing ....must be a pete thing...a certain kind of selective deafness lol...
Funny how "dinners ready !" Always gets heard tho lol
So you have iui in mind...honestly love...what a good plan...it's good to have somthing in the forefront to keep you going.
But first it's 3rounds of clomid?....I think you start clomid like cd3 or 5 and you take it for 5 days....don't take my word for it tho lol...it's just what I kind have picked up along the way....I wonder tho if my doc may suggest this on Thursday...not for ovulation induction but for muti eggy drop. who knows eh
Good luck Hun...I hope it goes well for you...
Let us know how it goes with your ob-gyn ...
Sis...did your temp go up yet?....how are you feeling?...are you confident about coverage..did hubby make it home on time.,
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Can't wait to hear how the big day went...I hope the weather was good for you both
Can't wait to see pics too.
You just need a perfect bfp to top your whole year in full now
that would be AWSOME eh
Well ladies..cycle update for me is...still no af...think I am 14/17 dpo...(defo not 17 dpo as my lp is 16lol....so ff WAS right)
Bfn on a test this morn...wich by the way I found tucked under my matteress yesterday lol...must have hid them from myself and forgot about them lol ideal tho bc I thought I had zero left
Anyways ladies...nuff of my long ass post lol...and it's pretty late here again...almost 2am...
Night night petals
Natalie xxx
You'll have to excuse my terrible grammar tonight..I'm still shattered.
I will try my best to reply to earlier posts here altho I can't promise much as my brain is just fried.lol
I have no idea what happend last night- why I just couldn't sleep...
I get terrible insomnia and I was soooo tired but the sleep did not come to me last night...I tried getting up and having a cool glass of milk...then I tried to read a book(to make my eyes tired) that didn't work...I whatched a bit of Fox News...I just layed in the dark...I tried to get back up again and play stupid games online...I just could not sleep at all....but pete woke me around 6:30 am this morning and asked why I was asleep on the sofa(had he done something to upset Me- bless)
I told him about my awfull night and that I'd only just nodded off so he summonsed me to bed and told me he would take care of Harry for the morning whilst I caught up on a little sleep...he came back to bed with me and he just held me whilst I burst into tears and fell asleep.
Gees I felt sooo down last night....a mixture of my poorly painfull knee and not being able to do very much for and with Harry made me feel like a useless mom :; and also that of the "timing of the year" and my emptiness I felt inside- my heart ached
But when I woke up today I felt "somewhat" better for the cry...and tuff ended myself up and told myself to move forward now...good things are waiting us.
NOW GO GET EM
Lol
So today I went to mil...and peters sisters were all there waiting for me to arrive...and when I walked in I was inundated with pressies for my birthday- of course I opened them too soon lol...
Oh they spiolt me...I felt so special
They are lovely and I am soo lucky to have them in my life.
So ladies ...how have we all been today?....good I hopes.
Meg...how are you feeling petal?...how did your night go with your friends last night...did the "fake" beer work ....?
Barbs....ouch sore bottom syndrome...have you thought about ice before and after injection site love?...
Wow I bet you feel great knowing that er is almost here...so exciting.
I can't wait to hear how the blastings go
Erin...tee hee ...too funny about the rePeteing ....must be a pete thing...a certain kind of selective deafness lol...
Funny how "dinners ready !" Always gets heard tho lol
So you have iui in mind...honestly love...what a good plan...it's good to have somthing in the forefront to keep you going.
But first it's 3rounds of clomid?....I think you start clomid like cd3 or 5 and you take it for 5 days....don't take my word for it tho lol...it's just what I kind have picked up along the way....I wonder tho if my doc may suggest this on Thursday...not for ovulation induction but for muti eggy drop.
who knows eh Good luck Hun...I hope it goes well for you...
Let us know how it goes with your ob-gyn ...
Sis...did your temp go up yet?....how are you feeling?...are you confident about coverage..did hubby make it home on time.,
Becky!
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Can't wait to hear how the big day went...I hope the weather was good for you both
Can't wait to see pics too.
You just need a perfect bfp to top your whole year in full now
that would be AWSOME eh Well ladies..cycle update for me is...still no af...think I am 14/17 dpo...(defo not 17 dpo as my lp is 16lol....so ff WAS right)
Bfn on a test this morn...wich by the way I found tucked under my matteress yesterday lol...must have hid them from myself and forgot about them lol ideal tho bc I thought I had zero left
Anyways ladies...nuff of my long ass post lol...and it's pretty late here again...almost 2am...
Night night petals
Natalie xxx
Hi Natalie. Ohhh I hope you get a great night's sleep tonight. Sounds like you have a great hubby and a great set of in-laws.
Sometimes you just have to have a good cry to feel better. Hope you start tomorrow feeling refreshed and positive.
Ahhh was today your birthday? Or is it soon? Or did I already miss it??? I feel like you've posted about it now that you mention it. In any case, happy birthday.
Haha maybe the rePeteing is a Pete thing. Or maybe it's just a man thing. *lol* We will consider IUI down the line, though I'm still praying we won't have to do it. Might not be back-to-back due to funds??? I'm not sure how much of a hit we'll take with each one. DH is very much "a baby is a product of our love," which really it would be ideal if it could work that way where we have a night of passion or two and ta-da...baby!
The IUI just feels so clinical. But more than that, we just desperately want another child, and we don't want DD to be an only child. So we will do whatever it takes as far as we are comfortable and what we can afford.
Yeah Dr said first we'll do 2-3 rounds of just the Clomid (I'd rather give it 3 tries), then Clomid +IUI, and after that he said we'd "re-evaluate." I know I'm supposed to start the Clomid on CD5, but since I've been bleeding nonstop this cycle, it's not really clear which day is CD1, and therefore it's not really clear which day is CD5.... So annoying!
And yes I'm taking Clomid for multiple eggie drop too. Probably everyone else knows this already but have you had any other testing done yet?
Sorry about your BFN. Are you feeling okay about it?
Sometimes you just have to have a good cry to feel better.
Hope you start tomorrow feeling refreshed and positive.Ahhh was today your birthday? Or is it soon? Or did I already miss it??? I feel like you've posted about it now that you mention it. In any case, happy birthday.
Haha maybe the rePeteing is a Pete thing. Or maybe it's just a man thing. *lol* We will consider IUI down the line, though I'm still praying we won't have to do it. Might not be back-to-back due to funds??? I'm not sure how much of a hit we'll take with each one. DH is very much "a baby is a product of our love," which really it would be ideal if it could work that way where we have a night of passion or two and ta-da...baby!
The IUI just feels so clinical. But more than that, we just desperately want another child, and we don't want DD to be an only child. So we will do whatever it takes as far as we are comfortable and what we can afford.Yeah Dr said first we'll do 2-3 rounds of just the Clomid (I'd rather give it 3 tries), then Clomid +IUI, and after that he said we'd "re-evaluate." I know I'm supposed to start the Clomid on CD5, but since I've been bleeding nonstop this cycle, it's not really clear which day is CD1, and therefore it's not really clear which day is CD5.... So annoying!
And yes I'm taking Clomid for multiple eggie drop too. Probably everyone else knows this already but have you had any other testing done yet?
Sorry about your BFN. Are you feeling okay about it?
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Nite Nat hope u get some sleep!!!
I would think the Pain meds are the cause of your Insomnia I get the same way when I have to take more than 2!!
Hope u get some rest tonite and what a Lovely day u had glad they spoiled you on your special Day!!
My temp is still the same and I'm still getting ++++++
thought it was the Royal Jelly but maybe it's the voted although I had pain on my left side yesterday and it's on my Right today!!
Hope I get a temp jump in the Am so we can get this show on the Road ready for Our 2014 BFP!!!
I would think the Pain meds are the cause of your Insomnia I get the same way when I have to take more than 2!!
Hope u get some rest tonite and what a Lovely day u had glad they spoiled you on your special Day!!
My temp is still the same and I'm still getting ++++++
thought it was the Royal Jelly but maybe it's the voted although I had pain on my left side yesterday and it's on my Right today!! Hope I get a temp jump in the Am so we can get this show on the Road ready for Our 2014 BFP!!!
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Nat so glad you are feeling better... and you deserved to be spoiled with presents!!! hehe what a nice way to spend the day! Lots of people who love you... I know a good cry is needed sometimes.. think about how much you have going on right now with Harry, TTC, the birthday, the miscarriage anniversary... you are such a strong light... always so shiny and bright! You are allowed to change your bulb every once in awhile! xoxo
I know a good cry is needed sometimes.. think about how much you have going on right now with Harry, TTC, the birthday, the miscarriage anniversary... you are such a strong light... always so shiny and bright! You are allowed to change your bulb every once in awhile! xoxoHi all,
I'm MARRIED Mrs Davies now hehe. Just a very quick post to say i'm still here just sorting out all the running around after the wedding. I had an amazing day! There was one part that was ruined by jons crazy brother but i'll tell you all about it another time! I will read through and catch up as much as i can later - i've started...... Meg i hope your numbers keep increasing ...you are right to be positive as it can take 72hrs at this point! Did you go in today for another test?? really hope its good news for you!
Nat so sorry about the BFN and temp drop the witch is a bitch!!!!! I think i missed your birthday...I'm so sorry HAPPY BIRTHDAY albeit a little belated lol
Barbs yay on the first injection....i'm sure they will get easier & just think the more you have the closer to tranfer you are and thats one step closer to you having a bubba in your arms very soon xx
As for me i tested this morning 10dpo and surprise surprise BFN i know i have a few more days left but i'm not overly hopeful - on to the next cycle! Just to decide whether to do the clomid or not......think i will as it worked last time....ugh not sure.....wish i knew for sure if i o'd or not......
spk later ladies off to take the mens suits back ! then the cake - we hired one hehe and gave everyone kitchen cake :0!!!
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Mrs Davies now hehe. Just a very quick post to say i'm still here just sorting out all the running around after the wedding. I had an amazing day! There was one part that was ruined by jons crazy brother but i'll tell you all about it another time! I will read through and catch up as much as i can later - i've started...... Meg i hope your numbers keep increasing ...you are right to be positive as it can take 72hrs at this point! Did you go in today for another test?? really hope its good news for you! Nat so sorry about the BFN and temp drop the witch is a bitch!!!!! I think i missed your birthday...I'm so sorry HAPPY BIRTHDAY albeit a little belated lol
Barbs yay on the first injection....i'm sure they will get easier & just think the more you have the closer to tranfer you are
and thats one step closer to you having a bubba in your arms very soon xx As for me i tested this morning 10dpo and surprise surprise BFN i know i have a few more days left but i'm not overly hopeful - on to the next cycle! Just to decide whether to do the clomid or not......think i will as it worked last time....ugh not sure.....wish i knew for sure if i o'd or not......
spk later ladies off to take the mens suits back ! then the cake - we hired one hehe and gave everyone kitchen cake :0!!!
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