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To be fair.... they are not crying every day. Last night and today have just been particularly tough. I just want to have happy babies. :)
 
WT - as far as "spoiling" babies by holding them to sleep etc. Its a tough one. I fed Roh to sleep every night until he was about 8 months old, and then had to spend about a month getting him to settle down on his own without beng on the boob. Maybe that means I spoilt him, but to be honest, although it took a while it wasn't that traumatic to teach him to settle. Saying that I think the general consensus is that babies are capable of self settling from roughly 6 weeks old, which is about when they can be expected to reliably find their own hands/thumbs to comfort themselves with so around then I plan to bring in a routine/ritual for nap and bedtime for settling Freyja down (things like saying certain phrases, dimming the room, the same music on every time etc etc.) In the hope that she'll learn to settle herself. I definitely won't bother until then, and even after I start if she really can't settle I'll step in to help.
Wth crying, again that's personal. Last time I hated hearing Roh cry it upset me too much so I didn't leave him long at all ever. To be honest I'm not much different with Freyja and plus it gives me a headache really fast! I think it doesn't take so long before you can tell the difference between a hungry cry, a pain cry and a grizzling tired cry. The last one I'd leave, the first I'd leave for a short time and the pain/distress cry I'd sort asap. :shrug: I did eventually do some controlled crying with Roh, to sort out his sleeping, but not until he was almost a year old. I've no issue with people who do leave babies crying, within reason, but I'm not good at coping with it myself. I'm imaginiing with twins there is often very little choice in the matter, you'd have to leave one or other of them crying at some points?
Hmmm, sorry, not sure that's much help at all, but those are my thoughts :hugs:
 
Wondertwins, my thoughts would be, sod it, two small babies won't be spoiled so young by having you react quickly to their cries. I like a book by Lucy Atkins called 'First Time Parent' who also says pretty much the same. My other feeling is angst creates higher cortisone/stress levels in the baby....but in you too so perhaps more stressful feeds. Go by your instinct. It won't be wrong.

Laura, I'm sure we got the whole winding thing really craply wrong and didn't realise how far over the shoulder to put her so her body was elongated. I usually get a burp of some description. Still get all the timing wrong and so am regularly getting spat up on. Lying down or laid back feeding seems to stop so much vomming whereas cradle hold is a sure fire way Edith will vom. It's a gravity thing effecting the flow I guess.

Today has been a pants day. I've not stopped feeding Edith apart from some minor breaks. It's only over the past hour she finally went down. I'm guessing its the 2-3 weeks growth spurt but I can't help wondering if my milk is wrong, whether the latch is wrong, whether I'm just a bit shite at all this. It's not helped by the Breastfeeding Helpline being so poorly staffed with volunteers...it took ages for someone to pick up the phone and when it was, it turned out to be the same lady I spoke to last week. Poor woman, she must be over stretched.

MrC was back at work today. My heart broke when he left and he looked like a ruined man on his return thanks to a bad night.

I'm wondering if LittleAndLost is ok?
 
Msc - i probably spoke to the same woman today too! She said i was her third caller tonight. Why do you think your milk/latch is wrong? Are you in pain? What are her nappies like? Is she gaining weight?

I'm babysitting for a 12 week old baby tomorrow... nervous.
 
I've been thinking about L+L too recently. Hope she's just busy cuddling her gorgeous girl!

MsC try not to doubt yourself too much! :hugs: soo many women think their milk is no good or that they are doing something wrong with BF when in reality their babber is just having a growth spurt and they are just trying to order up more milk for the days ahead. Also, they are just like us, some days they feel good, some they are just in a grump! They might be tiny, but they are tiny humans, so they act like them! ;)
 
Emera and Crow, thanks. I agree with you both, but find it easy to doubt myself. One of the boys is especially demanding so I spend a lot of time holding him just so he doesn't disturb his brother and I'm afraid DH will start to resent him. (DH's patience for crying is really short). Then when the less demanding baby cries, I hold him because I feel guilty that he's getting so much less attention. Sheesh. There are so many ways to screw up these kids. I'm sure they'll end up in therapy eventually. :haha:
 
WT - If we don't screw these kids up a bit, they'll never fit in on this planet, its a screwed up place! Our screw ups are the perfect preparation! ;)
 
Congrats FT! Can't wait to read your birth story!

Keira has been busy the last hour playing in her bouncer - just making little sqeaking sounds and hitting the snail dangling from it. I love her awake times, just so cute! We had a rough night... think she may be going through a growth spurt... we fed from 6:30pm almost right through to 5:30 am when her dad took over and bottle fed her. That somehow took until 7:30 when I had to get her up to go to her eye Dr appointment. I really have no clue how she is so awake when I desperately need a nap!
 
Feeding has been continuous for about 5 hours will it stop soon? She has had max 1 hours sleep during that time....she must sleep soon surely?

Btw LandL is all good..shes on my fb x
 
Mitch i'd say just keep feeding her, she'll drop off eventually! At least she's doing it in the evening, rather than at night!

I have to admit i think my brain glossed over how draining breastfeeding can be at this stage! Much like it glossed over how much labour bloody hurts! :haha: Evil brain! Thing is i do remember what breastfeeding was like a bit later on, and it gets sooooo much easier!!! :dance:

Skadi - awww i love that Keira is batting at stuff already! She's clearly not letting the doctors decide how advanced she should be is she?

I had a bath with Roh and Freyja this evening which was nice, except the bit when Roh wanted to hit Freyja repeatedly with a plastic wind up crocodile! :dohh: I fed her in the bath and Roh screamed at me when she latched on, "NOOO, MUMMY OOWWW!" and tried to pull her off! :rofl: He always points and says "ouchie oowww" when i'm feeding her, its so funny! After the bath i gave Freyja a massage and then a feed and she's just woken up having slept like a log since 6.30pm. If any of you can find a baby massage class then sign up and go, its bloody brilliant, and knocked Roh out cold (they need to drink after as it can dehydrate them a bit) and seems to work on Freyja too! :thumbup:
 
FYI... After talking bad about the little boogers, they've spent the past half hour being cute cooing angels.
 
Ha ha ha, they've already got you wrapped around their fingers, the little politicians!
 
Emera - I can't wait to take her to the Growth and Development clinic lol. I think they will be scratching their heads at her!

Roh is hilarious! lol Where does he get the ouchie thing from? He must think she is biting you! Soooooooo cute!
 
Hey laddies. I'm officially part of this group now! Eventually we can add :blue: Elliott to March 23 (I know FT is busy with her little boy).

Our second night in the hospital was rather trying. Elliott was obviously very hungry but just wouldn't latch. My milk hadn't come in and I think he was sick of colostrum. All he would do is wail for two hours. My hubby called the nurse in and she said it's perfectly normal and if we wanted we could supplement with formula. I felt like such a failure and couldn't stop crying. I was of course assured by my DH and the nurses that I was doing a great job and he would be much happier once my milk came in. So hubby gave him a bottle and he drank about an ounce, I think he spat a lot of it out though. But it calmed him for a couple hours and by morning my milk was starting to come in. They suggested giving him a half ounce after BFing. But I haven't been doing that as I think he can get enough from me now that my milk is in. He did lose 10% while in the hospital so they want to watch him to make sure he doesn't lose more. My only concern is he hasn't had many bowel movements.

We left the hospital yesterday. It is very good to be home. My mom gave a really cute dragon holding a welcome sign for my birthday and my friend gave me a beautiful piece of jasper. So I got both his middle names. :happydance:

Do any of you have issues with your baby falling asleep during feeding? I can some times get him going again by blowing on his neck or tickling his chin. I also have to take off most of his clothes to wake him. I've been trying to wake him for more feeds today as he cluster fed most of the night last night.

There is seriously nothing better than a baby asleep on your chest. I can't stop nuzzling this super soft head.:cloud9:

And now I'm going to change my ticker and avatar.
 
Kymied, I agree that nothing beats those sleepy snuggles! I'm so happy you're finally getting to enjoy them. Yay for the cool middle names making it.

Btw... Danielle appears to have had her little man too. The boys are having a surge!
 
Hi kym, congrats!
We had our first night at home Sunday night and he fed pretty much straight from 1am to 5.30 am and would only settle on us in bed (where DH fell asleep with him, oops). He then slept til the midwife came at 10.30. The midwife in hospital advised us to wake him if he hasn't fed for 5 hrs but this one said to leave him asleep! Today's been better, Ive tried to wait until he's a bit more awake to feed then feeds seem to have been a bit shorter in duration and he's more able to stay awake. Still dozes a bit, I just blow on him or tickle his cheek if I think he's resting for too long between sucking bursts. Or delatch him and if he's still hungry he snorts like a piglet and grabs straight back on, so cute!

As for settling in his basket, we can get home down a bit during the day if we get him into a deep sleep on one of us first. First day home he stayed in his basket but now likes to be held. Midwife said it was fine, just keep trying to put him in and then cuddle if not, eventually we'll get there and it's normal, specially at night.

Night 2 so far is much better than night 1, and I never thought I'd be one of these people getting excited over poo. One a few hours ago was getting towards yellow which means this colustrum is definitely getting through! Guessing milk will come in shortly, not looking forward to that pain and thank god for lansinoh cream, seems to make a world of difference! Oh, I think mitch you talked about sleeping in a bra... I sent DH out to jojo today for a sleep bra - its made a massive difference as I was catching my nipples on the bed as I turned over which made them sore. The bra has stopped them being able to swing about so I'm much more comfy! Breast pads seem comfy too so using them even though I'm not leaking yet.

Woah, mammoth post on phone which has lasted a full feed! X
 
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