MAY we all be blessed with baby! May 2013 and beyond (BFFs Seeking BFPs)

Profwife that is exciting. I hope that they help you get your bfp. I know what you mean about the just relax and it'll happen. I had people telling me that and I'm like I don't ovulate, I don't have periods, how is just relaxing going to help that. I know it's hard, I've been in your shoes. Wondering if it'll ever happen, but even though it felt like it was never going to happen I still had a little glimmer of hope, which increased when I started the Clomid because I did ovulate every cycle I was on it and I wouldn't be pregnant without it.
 
I have heard some good things about natural IVF. It could take more tries though.
Hope the consult gives you some good options for you. It would be cheaper in a sense since no drug costs (or not many drug costs - regardless of the stim stuff, I still had to take progesterone and estrace after, and antibiotics for the few days of the procedure)
Good luck :)
 
ProfWife: Woohoo for summer, although it's halfway over for me. This summer has been relaxing and quiet, just like I wanted. I hope yours is going well. I also wish you good luck at the doctor tomorrow.
 
Athena - I have a friend who sounds like you. She hasn't started Clomid yet, though. I'm hoping she does because it doesn't appear anything is starting her cycles for her yet (gaining weight, etc.).

River - I'm already supposed to be on progesterone during LP. I took this month off it though (didn't want to track while we were out of town). My body is reacting JUST like how it does on pro, though. Really high daytime body temps (99+). Hasn't dropped off yet, though. Could also just be that I've been outside every day (mowing, weeding, etc.) in FL.

momwithbabies - I KNOW! I head back first week of August, kids come back the next week. I'm already looking at what to do for lesson plans and putting them online. None too happy about that part! I've devoured several books, looking at a few more before the break is over.


Side issue - I've heard that soy mimics estrogen. If that's true, then could consuming that in place of dairy products cause cycles to be messed up? I have a friend who has Celiac's disease but is also lactose intolerant. She has only had success with taking progesterone for 10 days to bring on her periods; her body won't start on its own. Knowing her diet, I'm afraid that might be causing the issues. Any thoughts?
 
Profwife I've actually been thinking you remind me of one of my friends. I think she is 35ish, she's been married since '08 and they've been ttc since '09/'10. She ovulates and has no issues, her dh's SA was normal. They have unexplained infertility. They did their first iui last year and it was unsuccessful. They are planning their second for this fall. They've tried fertility drugs with no success, not even a miscarriage. She said their next step is ivf if the next iui is unsuccessful since they feel they are running out of time.

As for the soy. It can definitely mess up your cycles. She may want to try something not soy based to see what happens. I know a lot of people had issues after taking soy isoflavones with regular cycles.
 
I wanted to share this, a friend shared it with me. It definitely hits the nail on the head for infertility.

"Imagine yourself dressed up in your finest clothes. You and your sweet husband are attending a dinner together in one of the nicest restaurants in town. You both have planned, waited and saved for this evening. To say the least, you are very excited! You and your husband arrive and the atmosphere is more than you expected. Everyone around you is having a good time. The chandeliers are sparkling, candles are glowing and sweet soft music is playing in the background. To your pleasant surprise you see others there you know. You are seated with them and in your heart you think there just couldn't be anything better!

The table is just exquisite. Breathtaking really. The people at your table begin to talk to you in jolly conversation. You glance at the menu and you don't even know where to begin! You look over everything slowly and carefully, especially the dessert menu! All of your life you have been hearing about this restaurant's marvellous and divine desserts. Deep in your heart, you have been looking forward to enjoying dessert the most!

Everyone at your table orders their food. For dessert they all order chocolate cake. You think, "Hey that sounds perfect. I'll have chocolate cake too please.

" The waiter nods in approval and quickly swifts off to put in your order. In the meantime, you are still enjoying the surroundings, the music and the company. You grab your husband's hand and sigh "Yes, life just couldn't get any better.

" The food comes and everything looks just pleasing. Some of the things you tasted you really love, some of the things you didn't. Either way, you know that dessert is on its way. That thought in and of itself is just exciting! Then you see him, your waiter! Your wonderful, blessed waiter with a silver tray full of plates of chocolate cake! He comes and starts handing out plates to those you know. You look at the cake and to put it simply, it looks just divine. You're even more excited now! The waiter comes to your side and then passes you and your husband. You are shocked and think there must be some mistake. you don't know what to do, but rather than make a fuss you think, "Just wait, I will get my chocolate cake soon too.

" Those that have their dessert are going on and on about how amazing the taste is. You smile, you are truly happy for them. Deep down you are anxious and their feelings only feed your curiosity and desire. Then you see the waiter again and think, "Ahhh, here he is." You notice that he starts handing out seconds and thirds to those that have already had their piece of cake. Your husband doesn't notice, he's busy chatting with the fellow next to him! Deep down though you get a sick feeling in the pit of your stomach. You know something is wrong, something is very, very wrong.

You ask the waiter, "Excuse me please. Where is my chocolate cake that I ordered"? The waiter just replies, "The baker has said that you must wait." He rushes off and not another word is said. Time goes on. You still enjoy the surroundings, the people and the conversations. All the while though, you can't get chocolate cake out of your mind. Time keeps creeping by and soon your husband notices too, "Where is our dessert?" You hold his hand and look into his loving eyes and think, "Even without chocolate cake, life is still good.

" Time, however, creeps and it creeps. At moments it seems like it has even stopped. It's getting late and people are noticing you haven't received your dessert yet. Questions start arising and you just don't know how to respond. You look around other tables and notice that people are also getting their third, fourth and fifth servings of dessert. "Why" is all you have to lean upon.

You notice that others have ordered things for dessert besides chocolate cake. There is cherry pie, brownie ice cream sundaes, raspberry cheesecakes and such. They seem just as pleased, if not more pleased with their desserts and you wonder, "Should I order cherry pie too"? You talk to the waiter and he simply says, "I'm sorry ma'am, you just need to be patient and wait.

" You are starting to burn inside. Despite all of your best efforts you are beginning to boil. You really want to jump on top of the table and stomp while shouting, "Where is my chocolate cake?" You don't though because you know that will get you no where! Instead you look around and notice that there are some that are refusing their chocolate cake. "It will make me fat" one says. "Ugh. I have enough already" another states. One woman, simply dumps her beautiful chocolate cake onto the floor.

As you look deeper around you, you notice there are a few others that are waiting too. Your heart goes out to them. You smile and wish there was something more you could do. You know their pain and it hurts. It really hurts.

Finally, the waiter comes and he has chocolate cake on that familiar beautiful silver platter...and he has enough for two. One for your husband and one for you! Your so elated with joy that you can't hardly stand it!!! You tell everyone at your table and they are just as happy for you. "We knew it would happen" they say. "You just needed to relax"! Little did they know that deep inside relaxing was the last thing you were feeling! You look at your husband. Tears are in both of your eyes. You carefully take a taste. It's such sweet, sweet perfection. You go to take another and just before you do the waiter comes and gently takes your plates away. "Something is wrong" he says. "Don't worry my dear, the time is soon.

" There's confusion. Sadness. Anger. Above all though, you are just deeply and truly heartbroken. Heartbroken to the very core. You don't know what to do. You turn to others for support. They cry with you and too ask why. You take a deep breath and find the strength to go on. You have been given the promise that you will receive dessert. It is just not understood as to when. You decide to put your full trust in the baker. You reach far inside within yourself and find the effort to ask your husband to dance.

He looks at you and smiles..."Yes, I would love to dance with you my dear one." You both get up, leave the table and set off to dance.

As you are dancing, you get your bearings. You again begin to notice your surroundings. The beautiful surroundings that have so magically grabbed your attention in the first place. You remember the music, the sounds, the smell of the sweet flowers. You breath. That's all you can do. You breath and slowly begin to enjoy the moment again. Slowly, it all comes back to you. The things you love. Being with the person you love the most. The pains you have just felt are still there. Still vulnerable, but you feel life again. Yes, life is still good.

After quite a few dances, you both decide it's time to sit at your table. People still have their desserts and their chocolate cakes. Your space is still empty. You decide, however, to really focus on those around you. In doing so you find more joy. The desire for dessert is still there- but it's manageable. Time moves on.

Then suddenly, out of nowhere, your waiter appears. He has the biggest smile on his face. He is pleased to announce that you and your husband's dessert is finally here!! Your heart wells up with joy, but you're afraid too. You ask the waiter, "Will you take it away"? "No, this one was made especially for you.

" You smile back, hardly believing that this could be true or real. You look at it and it's not a dessert you have ever seen before. It's then that you realize that the baker has made a dessert with all of your favorite colors and flavors. Careful detail was lovingly taken into every consideration. "How did He know that this is exactly what I wanted"? The waiter just smiles and says, "Because he knows and loves you." If you look, you can see him there. You look and at the door, through the little round window you see a gentle man with tears in his eyes. He is grinning from ear to ear and looking at you and your husband. You can't hardly see anymore because of all of the happy tears. You whisper a big "Thank You" and in your heart you feel that this simple phrase will never be enough.

You look at the people around you, they too have tears in their eyes. They too are smiling from ear to ear. Everything is so precious and tender now- even more so than when you first arrived here. It's then that you learn that the pains you have felt all along the way. The waiting, the crying, the agony. It's all been a special recipe to make this moment this much more wonderful and sacred.

In your soul you take a deep breath and slowly let out a big sigh of gratitude.

You grab your husband's hand and sigh again, "Yes, life just couldn't get any better."
 
And cue round one of tears for today...lol...over chocolate cake...

I like that though. Really does nail it.
 
Profwife- I bawl my eyes out everytime I read it. It describes the feelings so well. I posted it on fb after we announce our pregnancy so people knew the struggle we had been through and a few people I had never known had issues or were still trying replied to it and shared it.
 
That's really beautiful, albeit gut wrenching, Athena. I would not consider us to be LTTC, but we were married for 5yrs when we started trying, lost our first and then 6mos until another BFP. I am not trying to say I understand the pain of LTTC, but I've had a taste.
Soy can mimic clomid for some. I had it cause problems. I tried Soy Isoflavones (available at Health stores) in lieu of clomid when my cycles were weird after my MC. Instead of moving O up a bit, it delayed it a week. (I took it CD1-5 as one would do with clomid). I was rather upset and AF that cycle (following the delayed O) was REALLY bad. AF is always bad for me, kind of incapacitating, but that month I seriously considered the ER. However, each of my cycles after that nasty one had O on day 15. I only did the soy that one time and it made things bad, but for me it also seemed to kickstart everything.
 
Ow the cake analogy <3.

well, I never relaxed, and it was my 6th trial of soy.
I think very mechanical. one egg and one sperm meets and implants, voila! .. this is how babies are made. Thus, i used opks not to miss the eggs. And it can happen under most stressed conditions, i.e. mass and millitarized rape, so I dont buy relax and enjoy approach.
 
There's another good apology about going holiday to a dream destination.You are going on a flight you flight is delayed and then bags go missing etc.

Everybody's journey is different. I'm glad I go to experience a bfp but then so sad to have it taken away from me. So sad for husband. Then I thought I'd be pregnant by due date. Now we are going for ivf.

I cannot cope with anybody telling me to relax and it will happen. I have to walk away so I don't explore especially if it's a very fertile friend of mine. It didn't. I relaxed for my whole first year of ttc. I went off the pill for 6 months before that and was careless. There is obviously an issue. 3 years! No baby!

Best of luck to all the ttcers this month xxxx

I will be steering away from soya. I thought it might help thicken my lining but I'll just stick to normal milk oh yeah and relaxing but obviously that worksXx
 
My Ipad always changes my words. I obviously didn't mean apology or explore!!!!!

I will do what ever it takes it get my cake. If it takes convincing dh I will do my very best xx
 
Lazy - I hate that about the iPad, too. :) Why is your husband against IVF? Is it just the giving up of the dream of lack of assistance (because up to that point you still have "nature" causing egg to meet sperm)? Is there a modified IVF he'd consider?


We just got back from the RE. I. Love. Him. I'm sad that we won't be doing anything really for cycle #22 for us. I should start AF tonight or tomorrow. I was hoping to immediately start treatment. Instead, I had 10 vials of blood drawn (no, that is not a typo) and an ultrasound done.

Drumroll....NO PCOS! It is officially off the table for me!

On the downside, he thinks I might have endometriosis. My sister had it REALLY bad, and he found a small patch of free fluid on the ultrasound. It wasn't in an area that would interfere with the egg/sperm, but that doesn't mean I don't have endometrial lesions in other spots which could be affecting it.

Plan right now is to wait until my bloodwork comes back in and hubby gets his third semen analysis done. I am to follow a high protein, low carb diet and exercise 30 minutes every day (not for weight loss but to ensure I'm getting enough blood flow to uterus and ovaries). Once all our results are in, we'll decide on options. He's already listed letrozole, ovidrel and IUI as potential. However, he said that given our ages, he sees no reason why this should be a long process once we know I'm producing good eggs and that they can get where they need to go.

So, that's my RE update. :-)
 
I'd already started a gym routine - 2 days one week, 3 days the next...I've been upped to 30 minutes a day, at least 5 days a week (all if I can). On the bright side, I know I can run a 5K twice in a row (did it yesterday and today). I think I'm just going to maintain that during the rest of the summer. Then I can switch back and forth between that and my videos during the school year. I'm already feeling a little kick in my step (and I'm sleeping through the night again).
 
Yay for no PCOS! I bet you are relieved. Sorry about the possible endo. That's no fun. I'm glad you got a lot out of this visit...you're one step closer:)
 
@ProfWife I'm sorry. :hugs: . I wish it would just happen for you as well. It's hard not to hold out for miracles. I believe the RE will be able to help and I really believe it will happen for you. It won't matter how you got it once you have your miracle. You're doing all you can and it will be good to get some help. I know how much you want it and I know how great you will be. As for the soy, ClandestineTX told me a bit about it before. I do think it can mess up a cycle. Perhaps she will be around to explain it soon. I'm glad the RE appointment went well! It's great to have a plan.

@Lazydaisys I don't want either of you to lose hope. It sucks, and is unfair, and a whole list of other things that may be a bit too much to post. ;) I'm sorry that things are not working out right now. I'm hopeful that you will find something out at your appointment. I hope your husband comes around to ivf if that's what you want to do. I understand the feeling of being open to doing anything possible.

@momwithbabies :hugs: I don't want to step on anyone's toes about religion or feelings about it. I hope you and ProfWife don't punish yourself too harshly for taking birth control. I honestly don't believe it is punishment. The birth control could cause issues with fertility (which they should make more clear when people start taking it), but I don't believe either of you or anyone else is wrong or should be punished for taking it. Just think of all of the women who have to take it for health reasons. They should not be punished and neither should either of you. :hugs: I think we always try to find some reason to blame ourselves. I blame myself for not trying earlier. I wish we had started trying when I was in my early 20s, but we were finishing university and trying to get everything sorted. It's unfair for us to blame ourselves these ways though. I hope it happens soon!

@pathos I've always wished for a vision of the future. I could rest easier and be more patient if I knew everything would work out.
 
ProfWife yay for no pcos, and I m glad that you have a nice new plan out there and i truly hope it will bring you your BFP.

River54, It's Friday. Since you have a pea in your ticker, I guess you saw your little one? :happydance:??
 

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