Mother of all conception months Graduates

[tas1]

Argh that is annoying vbaby! X

 

[MADLYSBOYS]

:wave: Off to catch up Ladies but heres us!

Today we went to Cannon Hall Farm near Barnsley (about 30mins away!) it was such a lovely day despite me feeling crap There was so much to do and we even made rabbit masks in the activity room and Oliver also got his first tattoo (only kidding!) he got one of those wash off glitter ones its a pirate ship We took picnic food and I spent the day with Charlie in his carrier although the farm was more than buggy friendly Charlie loves to be carried so I took advantage of the chance When we got back I went for a lie down because I truly feel rubbish Charlie isnt feeling much better either since we got back hes beyond grizzly and has been crying on and off all eve and refusing to nap I gave calpol earlier but it doesnt seem to have helped I thought it might be after effect of his jabs yesterday although he was fine yesterday after them he has two red lumps on his legs from the jabs but he has also been chewing Daisys ear off so maybe its his teeth as well because I put my knuckle in his mouth and he was chomping on it big time

 

[MADLYSBOYS]

for a crap night Peanut I hope tonight goes well daddyless

madcat reflux sucks but am glad the gaviscon is working for Bailey and that he still managed to sleep through for you bless him

Gilz we dont mind you moaning thats what we are here for and I think out of all the reflux babes you got it tough Glad Noahs appointment is just around the corner and I cannot believe they both weigh the same now

Tas families eh!?!?!?!?!?!?

a Dylan and his tummy time Loopy Hope you had fun shopping

Ozzie men just dont get it I wont go into the monumental row me and DH had last night that carried on until about 1.30am this morning

NOMORE bless your little Leo Oliver would never poo on the potty so literally when we started potty training it was on the toilet for poos but he wouldnt wee on the toilet so for a wee the potty funny how they all have their little preferences/habits I think its sooooooo cute

vbaby I hope you get your results soon the waiting game is bloody crap!

Molly Charlie doesnt do tummy time at home but he will do it happily at baby class

 

[MADLYSBOYS]

Oh and forgot to add as we speak my Sister is admitting herself back into hospital to go onto the transitional ward with Harry hes off oxygen but still been tube fed although he has taken a bottle too Bad news is my Sister might be on the ward with him for about a week so am hands on with having my niece I am getting quite use to having three kids

 

[molly85]

Lol I saw you piggy picks Madly so cute.

Loving the carrier to though now I can do our hill we live on I take the pram.

Well after abby not eatting, i had a thought she hates her food slow, so I would get a sippy cup as she has previously tried fast teats and doesn't seem bothered.
2oz gone in minutes shes not sure on the spout so got fussy but she took 9oz between 7 and 8.30 so i am a little less concerned onher intake

 

[molly85]

ohhh and a little girl Madly. Tellthat hubby of yours to take that job and to consider having a third say this time next year mwahhhhhhh I am so evil.

 

[PeanutBean]

Oh vbaby, have you had a call but haven't told us or have they not rung?

I'm just finishing off on here so I can go to bed. DH made me tea before he left so it was quite a while ago so just had some cereal. Had a sore tummy again today. I still get it on and off but not for days and days like early after the birth. Indigo and I both have sticky eyes today. She had hers this morning but mine has come on this evening. Both in our left so I've probably infected myself when cheek to cheek. Says something about my immunity right now given that Byron had them for a year and I never once did. It feels like it's drying out and I can't see properly in the corner where there is a bit of gunk. Poor babies having this.

Both kids were asleep by 9pm which is normal really when there are two of us so I feel moderately pleased with myself especially given the eye and another headache and no sleep last night. DH is at a schmooze party in Leeds. He was a bit nervous and in the past would drink to compensate and get totally smashed. He doesn't want to be smashed because that's no good for solid networking so I really hope he is able to control himself. He very rarely drinks now but he loves drinking and being drunk and his family are all alcoholics or very nearly (his granddad died from alcoholism). I am sure they have an alcohol addiction gene. Anyway, I'm always a bit anxious about his drinking. The more drunk he is the more sober he thinks he is which could be a problem getting home from Leeds!

 

[madcatwoman]

Morning all

Madly these jabs are bloody awful for our babes arent they?, i still can be sure that baileys probs didnt have anything to do with them
I hope charlie is feeling better.

PB i hope your DH didnt come home any worse for wear!. as for the drink, my uncle died from it in the end too, messed up his liver so badly in the end. My dad stopped drinking perminantely after that, and i never had a taste for it anyway.

We ive had a crap night/evening. ANOTHER bad stomach again. only this time along with (nearly) squits and feeling sick i had stomach cramps to rival my induction!. I felt truely shocking, it went on for 5 hours before i got any kip. its pissing me off now I dont think these yogurts im drinking are doing much.

 

[NOMORENUMBERS]

aw madcat sorry you had such a crap night

dh is in my bad books lol lol i knew that me and leo would get his cold but you know when you think back to the last cold you remember being miserable but you dont remember just how much . . . well what could be worse than having a cold, having a dh who is a drama queen with a cold, a toddler who is even more of a drama queen (but is far cuter with it) plus being heavily pregnant, plus not being able to take anything for it, plus having to look after ds alone all day as dh is working all day again . . . at least when baby is here yeah i will have two babies to look after when i have a cold but at least i will be able to take everything under the sun to make it through the day!

grrrrrr

such a nice day outside cloudy, litttle bit windy, nice and cool but so ill i just cant bring myself to leave the house

 

[PeanutBean]

You and me both nomore. DH is now showered but still extremely worse for wear. He's spent the morning in bed with Indigo while I showered and sorted Byron out. Don't know what time he got home but he texted at half 11 to say he would be two hours so when Byron came in at quarter to three I realised there was a problem. He wasn't replying to texts or answering the phone (it had run out of charge) so I came downstairs praying he was on the settee and he was. Byron had to come in with me so DH could sleep on his own in Byron's bed. Indigo woke at quarter to 1, quarter past 2, 5 and half 6. I've had hardly any sleep at all. Against the odds my conjunctivitis seems improved in that my eye at least is less sticky than it was. Day 4 of bad head and this has been here all morning so can only get worse later. Byron has just peed litres all over his chair in the kitchen and the floor having already gone on the potty a bunch of times by himself and wearing only undies so now difficulty in going to the potty. Well pissed off about that! He now has the shame of wearing a nappy all day again.

I've been copying photos on to a USB stick so I can get up to date with prints (will still need to buy a bunch of albums!). Need to get some pics off my camera first and naturally the PC has decided the USB is in permanent use to will have to restart to get the USB out. We have thunderstorms here so walking the dog will no doubt be interesting. Sigh. I can tell it's going to be one of those days all day long!

Things are going for Sequeena. She's gone into hospital now. Dunno why but they've put her on a continuous monitor. Stupid machines.

 

[molly85]

Eugh hugs PB.

Evil monitors they are truly pants I am sure they report more heart beat dips than actually happen thus getting interventions that are not needed.

I have already mentally been workingon my birth plan for number 2 if I have another induction and it will not involve a drip or a monitor. Maybe some lovely gas and air mmmmmmmmm

 

[NOMORENUMBERS]

molly you got me thinking about my birth plan - check me out! i dont even know where to start! there will be a lot of things on there that will ease my mind but mostly dh's (who is still crying on and off thinking we are going to loose our baby, he didnt get to listen to half of what the head midwife told me so is still concerned we see her again next friday so hopefully it will help him)

so the things that have already been suggested to be on there is to:

listen to me when i raise any sort of concern
communicate with me everything that is currently happening whether that be good or bad
to take into account that i have had a traumatic previous birth

i want to put on there something about them getting dh involved in the monitoring. when i looked at our traces it was very very obvious when leo got into distress she didnt even need to point it out to me. i am thinking if i ask them to give dh a brief way of seeing if baby is in distress it might make him feel like he has a little control and a lot more understanding of the whole monitoring thing. . . does that sound a little far fetched? i mean when leo was in distress no monitors went off beeping or anything so it was a case of them having to check me every now and then i think if dh feels like he understands what the traces means he can look at it whenever he wants in between the midwives looking at it so if he spots anything before they do he can say something?

is that too much of a stretch? i know if he can get the understanding down even if its a case of if the squiggles go above this line call us over or something?

other than that i want to have a much more detailed birth plan (obviously not an essay) than my "go with the flow" birth plan last time

 

[madcatwoman]

PB ive been getting all my photos printed too. I just think you dont look at them so much on a pc, im starting albums for bailey

molly "lovely G&A?" it did nowt for me!, didnt even tickle the sides excpet make me feel dizzy(ontop of everything else that was something i could do with out lol)

BTW, i never got to draw up a birth plan with my MW, but i did it myself in the end, it was pretty pointless though as no-one looked at it. I had in it what drugs i would except and they were offering me the ones i wouldnt! lol, i had to tell everyone about my emetophobia a million times, a few didnt even know what it ment. Its fair to say no-one looked at the birth plan.

 

[NOMORENUMBERS]

Thats why i am doing mine with the head midwife, it will be going on top of my file on a bright green piece of paper, when i call in to say i am coming in my name will be flagged up and whoever gets me (lucky them!) has to read the plan and follow it. she said who ever is in charge of the shift will be checking in to make sure the plan is being followed and everything is going ok - at the end of the day they know if i do not feel comfortable that i will get stressed that it will be determintal to labour progressing and i will end up with a c section again, she has worked very hard to get me to the point where i agreed to vbac i think if anyone fecked up with me she will be majorly peed off lol

 

[PeanutBean]

They only look at your birth plan if you have a meeting with the SoM I think! Mine got circulated wide and far because of the gbs stuff so nomore should get the same privilege! I don't see why DH shouldn't be given a role to look at the trace if that would help but are you sure it would? I see him looking at it constantly instead of you, totally stressed out with every contraction. Also, it's their job to be doing it. If they didn't pick up on what you can see obviously now then they weren't doing their job. There are two problems with traces, 1) heart dips with contractions are normal, do we suppose hearts only dip when mums are being monitored? Of course not so there is unnecessary intervention from the traces. 2) Mums are ignored. The mws line up their mums on machines and pop by once in a while assuming all is well unless they hear a beep when they should be with their mums, watching them, looking for signs of distress in the mum and listening to how they are feeling as an anxious concerned mum may well have reason for being so, after all the baby is in them and it's their bodies that are doing the work.

Sorry for the rant but whilst there are reasons for continuous monitors there are also reasons to avoid them. My advice would be to think round the issue and how each of you will respond to the monitors, or how you'd like them to be responded to. It's good to highlight you want the woman-centred approach and full information about everything. I'd be tempted to remind them about proper informed consent which goes out the window in the labour ward for some reason, perhaps because women are too stupid to understand...

Best get cracking nomore!

Well I've hot earache now and generally feel really shit. Obviously I am well infected. DH has walked the dog, fed Byron and has just gone upstairs so they can both have a sleep. Which means I can't. Despite being ill and having had no sleep taking care of our children. It's only once ever but my patience is wearing thin. I'll never understand how 'real' illness can apparently be worked through but a hangover can't.

Best get myself some lunch.

 

[NOMORENUMBERS]

i know the last few weeks i have been getting myself to two three o clock before getting really impatient for dh to come on his break, today i am just trying to get thehouse really clean, strangley leo loves to help out with everything clothes washing and is really good at hanging the clothes for washing lol but now we have run out of coat hangers he isnt so impressed and is getting increasingly bored, i felt ok after a small coffee earlier so might have to have half a cup of coffee now and half at like 4 and that might make me get through the day . . . might! tell me about it! dh was like i have been ill for longer so i ever so gently reminded him of how i have been sick, in pain, and suffering on an 8-9 out of ten level for sometime now and on top of that i have the same cold so shut it! lol lol lol he always pulls the oh i need a lay in because of my cold thing so i am like errr ok but i'll have you know same cold, no medication allowed and heavily pregnant. full sto pyou woss

 

[vbaby3]

Hi girls,
I did get a call from my doc at 8 last night.There's good and bad,and to be honest i found it hard to concentrate on what she was saying coz i started another anxiety attack.
As far as ms goes there's no sign of anything like thatb or brain tumour or anything thank god.
But there are other growths in my brain that shouldn't be there.The doc who read the mri mentioned tuberous sclerosis,which i'm trying NOT to google.My gp said it would be highly unlikely to have this and get to 35 without displaying symptoms,its usually childhood when it presents itself,so doubts this is the cause.
My original symptoms would have nothing to do with this anyway,so doc said this is basically a red herring thrown into the mix,something i would have never known about had i not had the mri,but because they're there we can't ignore it,so i'm now waiting on a neurologist appointment.Luckily as i have health insurance i'll get seen as soon as possible.Her secretary is ringing about for me nxt wk and getting me in with whoever can see me soonest.
Needless to say i'll need a repeat prescription for these relaxers.I'm in a state,and they're helping me not dwell on things and sleep well.The logical me keeps saying its prob nothing,something i've had all my life,causing no harm,and if i'd never had the mri i'd be none the wiser,but then of course every now and then panic sets in.

Anyway,had a nice morning out with oran shopping,left shay and teagan home with dh.Trying to keep busy!!
Will catch up on everyone elses news now.x

 

[vbaby3]

I didn't bother with a birthplan either,coz I never know what I want until I'm there in the thick of it,But nomore after your previous experience your birthplan should be thoroughly read through and adhered to.
Gas and air,shite!!!Grand in the very early stages but by the time I was 6/7cm's I fucked it on the floor!It was actually annoying me,so I just went au naturel for the last part.

Peanut,hope your feeling ok soon,naughty dh!But I do believe we all have to let our hair down every now and then,and if getting pissed is the way then so be it!That would also be my way of letting my hair down!!You should go out and treat yourself to some ME time,I know awkward when bf'ing,but even a couple hrs shopping kiddiefree,or get your hair done or something.
Teagan is all snots again too,and sticky eyes!

Sorry you'd a shit night madcat.Teagan is semi back to herself,and is sleeping through from 9pm until 6isham,7am this morning.I'm waiting for this '4 month sleep regression to happen,it happened with both my boys,and was a pure nightmare!Hoping Teagan skips that bit!

 

[loopylollipop]

Vbaby, try to stay objective about the MRI results. I tend to explain to patients prior to MRI that the chances are we will find something, but then the trick is working out whether it is of consequence. From memory about 1 in 8 is 'normally abnormal'. They are so clear and precise we are seeing things that are probably a normal variant. None of our anatomy is exactly the same as the next persons...

Dylans tummy time has had exactly the same result today! In less than two minutes he was asleep. He seems to love it on his little tummy. Sleeping that is.

The HV has stressed me out again. He is 12 weeks and 8lb 13oz. His weight and length have dipped off his own personal centile She has asked me to go see the GP who wont do anything. My professional head is unconcerned, but Mummy me couldnt stop the tears He is well and doing all the things he should. I know if I ff fed him he would gain weight quicker but is that really all its about?? So he hits the bottom centile, what then?? SHe has encouraged me to continue bf, but then upsets me about his weight and length. WTF??

Love to all, off to build the second flat pack item. TV cabinet done, now to the desk. Will have to take LO up too, wonder if he will do down again....

 

[Ozzieshunni]

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