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I'm watching our 5 year old niece today. Going to take her to lunch and to get a wee toy 
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Oh sequeena,sounds like the start of things to me,best of luck hunny!!!
Well I've had a couple of very hard days.By Tues evening I had worked myself into a panic about all this possible ms stuff,started having anxiety attacks,a permanent 1 week headache,no sleep,just completely anxious stressed and upset.
So yesterday morning I phoned my gp and got in to see her.Last wk when I went she was on hols,so it was a locum that did my referral to the neurologist.
As soon as she saw me shaking and crying(I probably shouldn't have been driving)She prescribed relaxers for me,just something similar to if you were scared of flying to calm you a bit.
They instantly worked,and while I'm still worried, I'm not working myself into a complete state.I've actually lost half a stone in the last 3 days from stress.
Anyhow,she's also said I don't need to see a neurologist 1st to get sent for a mri,she can just send me for 1,and then if need be,refer me to a neurologist.So I'm actually going for my mri this evening.Say a prayer and cross your fingers for me girls.
I'm petrified.She also reckoned the persistant headache was caused by anxiety,and right enough since taking the relaxer tablets the headache is almost gone.
It definately took the edge off my gynaey appointment yesterday too!
I didn't really want to go coz I felt so bad,but it was hanging over me and if I cancelled I knew I'd be waiting another 2 months for another appointment,so I went.
By the colposcopy all looks normal,I just need to wait on smear results too,as they kinda work in conjunction,and all clear on 1 doesn't mean all clear on the other!Very relieved the colpocopy looked good though.
Sorry about the long me me me post.
Hopefully this whole nightmare can be put to rest once I get my mri results.
sofie.hang in there hun,glad you're getting help.
Although being a mum is the best thing in the world,its the hardest job in the world.xxx
Well I've had a couple of very hard days.By Tues evening I had worked myself into a panic about all this possible ms stuff,started having anxiety attacks,a permanent 1 week headache,no sleep,just completely anxious stressed and upset.
So yesterday morning I phoned my gp and got in to see her.Last wk when I went she was on hols,so it was a locum that did my referral to the neurologist.
As soon as she saw me shaking and crying(I probably shouldn't have been driving)She prescribed relaxers for me,just something similar to if you were scared of flying to calm you a bit.
They instantly worked,and while I'm still worried, I'm not working myself into a complete state.I've actually lost half a stone in the last 3 days from stress.
Anyhow,she's also said I don't need to see a neurologist 1st to get sent for a mri,she can just send me for 1,and then if need be,refer me to a neurologist.So I'm actually going for my mri this evening.Say a prayer and cross your fingers for me girls.
I'm petrified.She also reckoned the persistant headache was caused by anxiety,and right enough since taking the relaxer tablets the headache is almost gone.
It definately took the edge off my gynaey appointment yesterday too!
I didn't really want to go coz I felt so bad,but it was hanging over me and if I cancelled I knew I'd be waiting another 2 months for another appointment,so I went.
By the colposcopy all looks normal,I just need to wait on smear results too,as they kinda work in conjunction,and all clear on 1 doesn't mean all clear on the other!Very relieved the colpocopy looked good though.
Sorry about the long me me me post.
Hopefully this whole nightmare can be put to rest once I get my mri results.
sofie.hang in there hun,glad you're getting help.
Although being a mum is the best thing in the world,its the hardest job in the world.xxx
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Vbaby sorry you had such a shit few days 
So glad your colposcopy was ok as it can be. I've been there they aren't pleasant. As for your gp that's brilliant, its great you are getting your MRI tonight. I really hope everything is ok
So glad your colposcopy was ok as it can be. I've been there they aren't pleasant. As for your gp that's brilliant, its great you are getting your MRI tonight. I really hope everything is ok 
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vbaby glad they got yo sqeezedin and thogh it sounds weird lie back and enjoy the clicking of the mri. hgs to yor poor absed lady garden.
we went swimming only for20 mintes but she likes it. shold now be a reglar event build her p to the full hour. Smear test in an hour wish me a relaxedand easy to find cervix
we went swimming only for20 mintes but she likes it. shold now be a reglar event build her p to the full hour. Smear test in an hour wish me a relaxedand easy to find cervix
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god, i dont know when to have my smear done. DTD was pretty painful so i imagine a forced smear to be the same or worse!, i know i'll have to get it done soon though
does anyone know if its feasable to say babies can react to their jabs 48hrs later? rather than a few hours later?. twice bailey has been screaming so high pitched and painfully today, also very warm(but no temp), it wasnt colic, wasnt reflux, not too hot-hes in his nappy.
i gave hime calpol in the end, went to lie in our cool bedroom, hes cheered up a bit now(well, he's asleep)
let us know how your scan goes vbaby!
does anyone know if its feasable to say babies can react to their jabs 48hrs later? rather than a few hours later?. twice bailey has been screaming so high pitched and painfully today, also very warm(but no temp), it wasnt colic, wasnt reflux, not too hot-hes in his nappy.
i gave hime calpol in the end, went to lie in our cool bedroom, hes cheered up a bit now(well, he's asleep)let us know how your scan goes vbaby!
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good luck sequeena!
going to do a bit of an update on my meeting today but in the meantime i have to HAVE TO forward you all on to a thread in third tri called "how to deal with internet arguements" it is absolutely hilarious and if i could find a poster of it i would so buy it lol lol lol
mad cat i dont think it is entirely impossible for a reaction to happen 48 hours later, i always kept an eye on leos temp etc for 3 days afterwards, i must have done that for a reason i am sure after one of his jab sessions i was told to keep an eye on him for a few days. . . with that said there is a lot of colds and sore throats going around, leo keeps sneezing and obviously has a sore throat so he squeals afterwards in pain could be something as simple as that, if you are worried give your doc a call hun xkx
going to do a bit of an update on my meeting today but in the meantime i have to HAVE TO forward you all on to a thread in third tri called "how to deal with internet arguements" it is absolutely hilarious and if i could find a poster of it i would so buy it lol lol lol
mad cat i dont think it is entirely impossible for a reaction to happen 48 hours later, i always kept an eye on leos temp etc for 3 days afterwards, i must have done that for a reason i am sure after one of his jab sessions i was told to keep an eye on him for a few days. . . with that said there is a lot of colds and sore throats going around, leo keeps sneezing and obviously has a sore throat so he squeals afterwards in pain could be something as simple as that, if you are worried give your doc a call hun xkx
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Right ladies so i had my meeting with the head midwife today
She was absolutely freaking amazing, i walked into the appointment thinking i know this woman already agrees with me that my case is severe enough for a section i know she isnt going to be agressive so lets just listen to her and see what she says
the first thing she said was right, are you sure you want a section. yes. right i can go downstairs now and get you a date. but it being august i can already tell you it wont be before you dd in fact likely a couple of days afterwards. we need to discuss in full what is going to happen if you go into labour before this time
basically she said that if i were to go into labour before section date i would be, she was very honest, hounded by the midwives to keep going if i am progressing well, and when a doc is faced with a situation where there is no medical reason for a section they will be very blunt and very forceful and you could well end up having to agree with them to shut them up or really really really fight for it. i am not saying this is right but this is what will happen. i think it is important that we fully discuss your previous labour exactly what will happen this time what we can promise you this time and what will not happen. i think that although this is very late in the game i think that we can really get you in a place where you can start to open the door into trusting us again.
i could have kissed her! FINALLY! i wont go into all the details but we talked for 3 hours about everything, we literally went through everything that happened during labour a few things that i had been led to believe had not happened had in fact happened and visa versa, we literally went through my entire trace (it was one of the longest she had seen) for my labour, in the end although very tragic and very traumatic there was very little that they could have done in addition to what they had done to prevent leo from being so ill, she said from the trace there is no reason to expect that he would ever have come out so incredibly ill
pb like you said earlier we looked at all the medical and scientific sides of things and then talked about all the emotion side of things and i felt like i was moving through everything, it was like all the haze surrounding my labour and what happened afterwards was completely lifted and there it all was in black and white, why everything happened, what caused it to happen, and in turn it showed exactly why it wouldnt be likely at all for it to happen again.
after we chatted she was like i am still booking your section, im going to do it now brb with that i sent leo and dh out for a walk so i could process everything and also leo by this point was reaaaaally bored. when she came back she said 30th August is the closest date that we have (which proved me right that the consultants were pushing me back and back until a section date would be after my dd) which is 5 days past my dd. how do you feel. knowing that it is likely i will go into labour before that, knowing that i would have a fight on my hands for a section anyway and having made so much progress with my feelings i said no, push it back further. my hands were absolutely shaking when i said it.
i basically said i am not ignorant or stupid, i know a section poses more risk and actually respiratory wise i know that it can cause problems that otherwise might not even happen with a natural birth so i might end up with a baby being whisked away again because of a section. i feel i have made progress, i dont want major surgery if i can avoid it and now i am working through things properly i think it would be a waste to prolong me fully working through everything.
so i am booked for a section at 41+4. 5th september. with the intention of trialling natural labour.
we go back next friday to talk through even more stuff and to write an incredibly rigid birth plan, one of which if i feel is not being followed i can call on them to stop and let me have a section
She was absolutely freaking amazing, i walked into the appointment thinking i know this woman already agrees with me that my case is severe enough for a section i know she isnt going to be agressive so lets just listen to her and see what she says
the first thing she said was right, are you sure you want a section. yes. right i can go downstairs now and get you a date. but it being august i can already tell you it wont be before you dd in fact likely a couple of days afterwards. we need to discuss in full what is going to happen if you go into labour before this time
basically she said that if i were to go into labour before section date i would be, she was very honest, hounded by the midwives to keep going if i am progressing well, and when a doc is faced with a situation where there is no medical reason for a section they will be very blunt and very forceful and you could well end up having to agree with them to shut them up or really really really fight for it. i am not saying this is right but this is what will happen. i think it is important that we fully discuss your previous labour exactly what will happen this time what we can promise you this time and what will not happen. i think that although this is very late in the game i think that we can really get you in a place where you can start to open the door into trusting us again.
i could have kissed her! FINALLY! i wont go into all the details but we talked for 3 hours about everything, we literally went through everything that happened during labour a few things that i had been led to believe had not happened had in fact happened and visa versa, we literally went through my entire trace (it was one of the longest she had seen) for my labour, in the end although very tragic and very traumatic there was very little that they could have done in addition to what they had done to prevent leo from being so ill, she said from the trace there is no reason to expect that he would ever have come out so incredibly ill
pb like you said earlier we looked at all the medical and scientific sides of things and then talked about all the emotion side of things and i felt like i was moving through everything, it was like all the haze surrounding my labour and what happened afterwards was completely lifted and there it all was in black and white, why everything happened, what caused it to happen, and in turn it showed exactly why it wouldnt be likely at all for it to happen again.
after we chatted she was like i am still booking your section, im going to do it now brb with that i sent leo and dh out for a walk so i could process everything and also leo by this point was reaaaaally bored. when she came back she said 30th August is the closest date that we have (which proved me right that the consultants were pushing me back and back until a section date would be after my dd) which is 5 days past my dd. how do you feel. knowing that it is likely i will go into labour before that, knowing that i would have a fight on my hands for a section anyway and having made so much progress with my feelings i said no, push it back further. my hands were absolutely shaking when i said it.
i basically said i am not ignorant or stupid, i know a section poses more risk and actually respiratory wise i know that it can cause problems that otherwise might not even happen with a natural birth so i might end up with a baby being whisked away again because of a section. i feel i have made progress, i dont want major surgery if i can avoid it and now i am working through things properly i think it would be a waste to prolong me fully working through everything.
so i am booked for a section at 41+4. 5th september. with the intention of trialling natural labour.
we go back next friday to talk through even more stuff and to write an incredibly rigid birth plan, one of which if i feel is not being followed i can call on them to stop and let me have a section
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wow jesus christ get a coffee and a cake if you want to read all that! bloody hell!
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i am so chuffed for you that you got on that course!!!! xkx
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Thank you but it's more exciting that you have a date where you'll definately have Racheal!
Oh and my sisters name is Rachel but spent Rachelle just to add to different ways of spelling Rachel lol!
I started the rewards chart today,he has done well on it think I expect too much from him! He gets a star if he (and I put I must before them) washes his hands after going to the toilet (he's a jippo lol) listen to mummy and daddy, put my toys away,eat all my dinner and tea and goes to bed at a good time! If he gets 5 stars he gets sweets if he gets 25 stars he gets a magazine and if he gets 35 or more stars he can go to the cinema or day out! He is aiming for cinema as he really wants to watch smurfs!
I made Caleb laugh a couple of times today so cute,he's ticklish under his chin and tops of his legs!
Best put Caleb in his basket he is asleep now as well so I can get on with tidying up oh the joys lol
Xx
Oh and my sisters name is Rachel but spent Rachelle just to add to different ways of spelling Rachel lol!
I started the rewards chart today,he has done well on it think I expect too much from him! He gets a star if he (and I put I must before them) washes his hands after going to the toilet (he's a jippo lol) listen to mummy and daddy, put my toys away,eat all my dinner and tea and goes to bed at a good time! If he gets 5 stars he gets sweets if he gets 25 stars he gets a magazine and if he gets 35 or more stars he can go to the cinema or day out! He is aiming for cinema as he really wants to watch smurfs!
I made Caleb laugh a couple of times today so cute,he's ticklish under his chin and tops of his legs!
Best put Caleb in his basket he is asleep now as well so I can get on with tidying up oh the joys lol
Xx
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Nomore you made me cry! I am so bloody proud of you! I am so so happy you have finally seen someone decent and just wish they'd do e this months ago so you had more time to prepare. My advice, same as months ago, is go to the home abs natural birth section and start a thread about the vbac, get yourself some experienced support there to bolster this feeling and give you the strength you need. There are ladies there who have been through it all and can really help. I'm always happy to help if I can but I think women who've had a section under traumatic circumstances and gone on to vbac will be able to do more for you than I can.
On the snot, I had a good couple of weeks of it before labour, I also got prodtomsl labour twice in the two weeks before so you might have a little time yet!
Nice afternoon with my parents and their old friend. Not so impressed with the 1.5 hour walk we were taken in expecting it to be maybe 20 mins end meaning Byron got his tea two hours late; I set off a good hour later than planned; Byron was distraught 40 mins before I could get him in the bath; and Indigo's taken almost an hour to settle.
Vbaby I'm so sorry about all your stress.
Got my hopes and prayers sending you good things.
On the snot, I had a good couple of weeks of it before labour, I also got prodtomsl labour twice in the two weeks before so you might have a little time yet!
Nice afternoon with my parents and their old friend. Not so impressed with the 1.5 hour walk we were taken in expecting it to be maybe 20 mins end meaning Byron got his tea two hours late; I set off a good hour later than planned; Byron was distraught 40 mins before I could get him in the bath; and Indigo's taken almost an hour to settle.
Vbaby I'm so sorry about all your stress.
Got my hopes and prayers sending you good things.
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Well Charlie loves his Jumperoo 
especially the parrot 
I have uploaded pictures to FB 
Today we have been quite busy afterall
This morning DH went to see the Dr about his dizzy spells and it turns out he has a touch of heat stroke 
hes feeling lots better now though Whilst he was at the Drs me and Oliver put together Charlies Jumperoo whilst Charlie slept Then when DH got back we went out we went to the White Rose Shopping Centre to HMV so I could by the Zumba disc for our WII 
we then stopped at subway for lunch on our way back to our Drs surgery to have Charlie weighed and for him to have his jabs He weighs 12lb5oz so 5oz gain in exactly too weeks hes gained minimum again so plan of action is too see how we feel hes feeding over the next two weeks and either take him back in two weeks time for re-weighing or to hang fire until his next jabs on 1st Sept the HV has left the ball in our court so to speak Then he had his jabs he was great when he got the first one except his quivering pet lip came out which was well cute but when the second jab went in he screamed so loud It took me a little while to settle him down but he settled and so we decided to take Oliver to game for him to trade in his WII games long story short but game dont price match on games and the game Oliver wanted we knew full well it was cheaper elsewhere so after popping to George where I treated myself to a new jacket and new book 
we headed to our local Asda who do trade-in`s and Oliver got his game We then came home and apart from having our Tesco shop delivered I have spent hours sorting and saving all our photos from our camera/my mobile onto discs I have been so worried about losing all our photos, I have the boys life in photos on both devices and I have been meaning to do it for weeks so I did it today
In other news......tomorrow we are taking the boys to a farm for the day and DH has been offered a contracting job paying 650.00 a day 
its in London but he hates London and is really dubious about taking it he will be working away Monday-Friday which I`m ok with because I knew contracting would mean him been away from home Of course I will miss him and it will take some getting use to but the lifestyle the pay will afford us is massive .... decisions
Off to catch up now
especially the parrot I have uploaded pictures to FB Today we have been quite busy afterall
This morning DH went to see the Dr about his dizzy spells and it turns out he has a touch of heat stroke hes feeling lots better now though Whilst he was at the Drs me and Oliver put together Charlies Jumperoo whilst Charlie slept Then when DH got back we went out we went to the White Rose Shopping Centre to HMV so I could by the Zumba disc for our WII we then stopped at subway for lunch on our way back to our Drs surgery to have Charlie weighed and for him to have his jabs He weighs 12lb5oz so 5oz gain in exactly too weeks hes gained minimum again so plan of action is too see how we feel hes feeding over the next two weeks and either take him back in two weeks time for re-weighing or to hang fire until his next jabs on 1st Sept the HV has left the ball in our court so to speak Then he had his jabs he was great when he got the first one except his quivering pet lip came out which was well cute but when the second jab went in he screamed so loud It took me a little while to settle him down but he settled and so we decided to take Oliver to game for him to trade in his WII games long story short but game dont price match on games and the game Oliver wanted we knew full well it was cheaper elsewhere so after popping to George where I treated myself to a new jacket and new book we headed to our local Asda who do trade-in`s and Oliver got his game We then came home and apart from having our Tesco shop delivered I have spent hours sorting and saving all our photos from our camera/my mobile onto discs I have been so worried about losing all our photos, I have the boys life in photos on both devices and I have been meaning to do it for weeks so I did it today In other news......tomorrow we are taking the boys to a farm for the day
and DH has been offered a contracting job paying 650.00 a day its in London but he hates London and is really dubious about taking it he will be working away Monday-Friday which I`m ok with because I knew contracting would mean him been away from home Of course I will miss him and it will take some getting use to but the lifestyle the pay will afford us is massive .... decisions Off to catch up now
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aw pb bless you, you are one of the people who helped keep that small crack in the door open in my mind that someone might be able to help me and you gave me so much good advice about it all! that goes for all of you! being able to talk on here about it kept me from being 100% completely closed about it. its like i said i am not ignorant just really damaged from the last time.
i fully intend on allowing dh to complain about the way the consultants go about bullying anyone who has had a bad past experience instead of making their concerns feel validated and actually offering to arrange a full discussion on it! if it makes even one or two of the consultants there rethink the way they just tried to back me in a corner and allow other women to be able to work through their fears then it will be a job well done lol
i am yet to break the news to my mum who i think was secretly hoping i would have a date so she could go on holiday. . . never mind lol lol lol
i fully intend on allowing dh to complain about the way the consultants go about bullying anyone who has had a bad past experience instead of making their concerns feel validated and actually offering to arrange a full discussion on it! if it makes even one or two of the consultants there rethink the way they just tried to back me in a corner and allow other women to be able to work through their fears then it will be a job well done lol
i am yet to break the news to my mum who i think was secretly hoping i would have a date so she could go on holiday. . . never mind lol lol lol
