October babies due dates and bump colours

[Pippypepper]

Hi! I'm due on October 31st. BOO! Halloween baby!
I haven't a clue what color.. Just a little inkling it may be blue, but who knows.
I want to try that gender prediction pee test that is out there. Anyone know how accurate it is?

 

[Adele2011]

Hi! I'm due on October 31st. BOO! Halloween baby!
I haven't a clue what color.. Just a little inkling it may be blue, but who knows.
I want to try that gender prediction pee test that is out there. Anyone know how accurate it is?

Congrats on your little pumpkin Be good if he/she's born then, birthday parties would be so cute. I did the prediction test came out pink the feedback was quite good for it but then Gash did a test and it didnt work. I would probs still do one something to do and interesting see if its right

 

[Fairybabe]

Hey Mommy's angel, to answer your Q, yes, 2 losses, 10wks and 5wks, in Aug and Oct last year. Hence all the wobbles now!!

Re the progesterone issues you are haivng, if it's not a dumb question, how did the docs figure out you needed it for 2nd tri? I'm on prog pessaries for first tri. Sounds like a typical pharmaceutical profiteering decision to make it so costly. Especially when it could be made much cheaper. THat kind of thing makes me so angry!

Love all the name talk. We aren't going to indulge in any until 3rd tri. In a way i'm relieved as DH and i disagree on so many if it's boys names. Not so bad on girls. He teaches, so each time i suggest a name it's "taught a kid who was X, so don't like it!" DOh.

Hope you all having good days

Fairy x

 

[zb5]

Mommy's Angel, I feel you! I could also go on a rant about the insurance companies, cost of health care, etc. Have you checked if your insurance has an out of pocket maximum? If so, they may cover 100% once you've paid the maximum. You've probably already looked into it though.

In our case, we don't know how LO will get health insurance once he/she is born. I have student health insurance and can't put any dependents on it, and DH has individual health insurance after being rejected twice (he's self employed). We're not sure if he could add a child to his policy, but in any case his coverage is horrible! $5000 deductible will go by fast for a child. We have a few ideas to try and make it work, and I'm pretty sure LO will end up with insurance somehow, but it just seems so unfair that we should even have to worry about it. I mean, of all people who should not have to worry about finding insurance, a child is one of them! Argh.

I don't know much about march of dimes, but sorry to hear they haven't been a help. That's terrible.

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Hey Mommy's angel, to answer your Q, yes, 2 losses, 10wks and 5wks, in Aug and Oct last year. Hence all the wobbles now!!

Re the progesterone issues you are haivng, if it's not a dumb question, how did the docs figure out you needed it for 2nd tri? I'm on prog pessaries for first tri. Sounds like a typical pharmaceutical profiteering decision to make it so costly. Especially when it could be made much cheaper. THat kind of thing makes me so angry!

Love all the name talk. We aren't going to indulge in any until 3rd tri. In a way i'm relieved as DH and i disagree on so many if it's boys names. Not so bad on girls. He teaches, so each time i suggest a name it's "taught a kid who was X, so don't like it!" DOh.

Hope you all having good days

Fairy x

Hi There Fairy. There is a difference between progesterone suppositories for first trimester and Potent progesterone in the second trimester. The suppositories you are on are because you have had losses within the first trimester. The progesterone you are on is specifically made to keep the progesterone that you lose when you miscarry in the first trimester.

I on the other hand gave birth to my son preterm at 22wks gestation. I lost my mucus plug, had BV which caused my amniotic sac to bulge. What they're saying is that it's caused by inflammation and thus the painful progesterone shots keep the uterus calm and strengthen it at a time when most likely I would lose my baby.

It may be in conjunction with a cerclaged or tied uterus. We'll see in the upcoming weeks when they actually measure me.

Doug and I spent most of our day trying to figure out who is in our insurance coverage and where. Because the drug is compounded, there are limited pharmacies that actually make it. I actually just got off the phone with a compounding pharmacist who says she doesn't even do the injectables because it is sterile. So we just called another pharmacy an hour away and can't seem to get a hold of them.


I hope that answers your question. Progesterone is used for different stages. What you are using isn't at all as strong as I'd need it to keep my pregnancy in the second trimester. However for women who can't seem to keep their pregnancies in the first trimester, the idea is that they don't have enough progesterone to carry them through which is only one reason why some women lose their children so early in the first trimester. It's heartbreaking, but once they find the reason behind it, it's usually a blessing and will keep the pregnancy viable. Which in your case will work throughout your first trimester. I bet this has been a real concern for you and I understand the wobbles now. It's scarey to deal with the first trimester let alone wonder in your mind after two early losses, but if you started progesterone, it's been well known that it helps to get many women through the first trimester.

My specific issue isn't something you'll have to worry about as it seems we have different reasons we lost our children. Your scarey season seems to be the first trimester and mine happens to be second trimester. It'll be a blessed and triumphant day when we pass those milestones and finally hold our little ones dear friend.

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Mommy's Angel, I feel you! I could also go on a rant about the insurance companies, cost of health care, etc. Have you checked if your insurance has an out of pocket maximum? If so, they may cover 100% once you've paid the maximum. You've probably already looked into it though.

In our case, we don't know how LO will get health insurance once he/she is born. I have student health insurance and can't put any dependents on it, and DH has individual health insurance after being rejected twice (he's self employed). We're not sure if he could add a child to his policy, but in any case his coverage is horrible! $5000 deductible will go by fast for a child. We have a few ideas to try and make it work, and I'm pretty sure LO will end up with insurance somehow, but it just seems so unfair that we should even have to worry about it. I mean, of all people who should not have to worry about finding insurance, a child is one of them! Argh.

I don't know much about march of dimes, but sorry to hear they haven't been a help. That's terrible.

I have a friend and her two older children as well as husband who don't have insurance. They recently signed up for a medical program and she said it saved her and her husband thousands of dollars after their hospital visit. I'll find out what it is and maybe you can look into it. I've heard from her that it's EXCELLENT. Wouldn't hurt to check it out. Let me see what I can find out from her.

 

[holl1109]

Hi ladies hope u are all well...gash my due date is the 6th oct had my scan today but have to be rescanned as the baby has a something hernia where the bowels are outside of the belly but hopefully its just because I'm 10+5 and its just early and they will go back in within the
Next 2 weeks. I'm worrying myself sick already. Xx

 

[Fairybabe]

Holl, that must be very scary for you. Rest assured, even if they don't pop back in on their own, i've seen a couple of cases on telly where a simple op straight after birth can sort it out, so it's treatable. Still, totally NOT what you need to worry about. HEre's hoping it all just resolves itself naturally!!
Fairy x

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Zb,

I heard from my friend. She said this alternative to insurance got her and her family through 2 surgeries and 2 visits to the er as well as a kidney stone issue. She said had it not been for this plan, they would be in debt BIG TIME! Check them out and see if it's something that could work for your situation...

Samaritan Ministries

 

[zb5]

Zb,

I heard from my friend. She said this alternative to insurance got her and her family through 2 surgeries and 2 visits to the er as well as a kidney stone issue. She said had it not been for this plan, they would be in debt BIG TIME! Check them out and see if it's something that could work for your situation...

Samaritan Ministries

Wow, that is really interesting! I actually just had my husband call today about his health insurance. It turns out we can add a child to his policy without reapplying. So I am relieved at least we have that one option, even if it isn't the best option. I hate the health insurance companies though, so will look more into the option you mentioned. I like the idea of not getting a huge corporation involved. Thanks!

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Zb,

I heard from my friend. She said this alternative to insurance got her and her family through 2 surgeries and 2 visits to the er as well as a kidney stone issue. She said had it not been for this plan, they would be in debt BIG TIME! Check them out and see if it's something that could work for your situation...

Samaritan Ministries

Wow, that is really interesting! I actually just had my husband call today about his health insurance. It turns out we can add a child to his policy without reapplying. So I am relieved at least we have that one option, even if it isn't the best option. I hate the health insurance companies though, so will look more into the option you mentioned. I like the idea of not getting a huge corporation involved. Thanks!

I not only get irritated with Insurance Companies, I get irritated with Gov't putting their hands on it and making it worse (i.e., DMV, the post office is doing worse than FedEx or other companies). Our Gov't just wasn't equipped to handle money THEN you have the money hungry pharmaceuticals that want their specific drugs regulated so they can have above 90% profits.

I'm SURE we'll see more and more of this soon. I was talking with my husband and I'm thinking this last scheme with p17 and FDA approval raising the cost SO high for regular people to buy is a way to push those who cannot afford the cost of these regulated drugs in a corner. The corner being if the drug they NEED is unattainable, they will have no choice but to agree to National and Standardized healthcare.

I'm quite certain that the FDA and Pharmaceutical industry knows exactly what they're trying to accomplish by doing this. It's just my own hunch of course, but the way our Gov't spends money like water, the last thing I'd ever want them to do is tell me how and where I have to spend it to get regulated healthcare. I most certainly don't want someone telling me that I'm unworthy to receive more care because I'm a diabetic who costs more to insure and thus am at the Govt's beckon call to dictate whether or not I get the care I pay for or if I"m left to die.

Anyways, without getting into the politics of it all I've certainly been seeing a whole lot of sneaky stuff happening.


I'm glad your baby can be put on your husbands insurance. At least now you'll have a couple options and can work through the better choice for YOU.

 

[zb5]

Even without politics, right now the health insurance companies can decide whether or not you're allowed to get insurance/care. My DH was denied health insurance at first because he has GERD - aka heartburn!! I personally hope things will get better after the new government rules go into effect, but we'll just have to wait and see. I just think there are so many problems with the system right now that SOMETHING has to be done, don't know what the right thing to do is though.

On a lighter note, I heard baby's heartbeat again on my doppler today!! I couldn't find it the past few times and was trying not to worry as I know how flaky the dopplers can be. Turns up, yup, they are just flaky, cause today I heard a nice strong beat. Now I am just so excited for my scan tomorrow and not nearly as worried!

 

[zb5]

Holl, that is scary! But I've also heard of babies who had that problem who turned out fine. Hope everything gets resolved easily.

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Yay, WTG z on the baby heartbeat. It's exciting!! I've thought about getting one, but I have a tendency to be anxious, I'm not sure what I'd do if I couldn't hear the HB. So I think though it's limited, I wait every two weeks to hear it in the perinatologists office.

Ah yes, the issue with insurance coverage. My mom pays three times the amount for her insurance than we do and hers STINKS! I'm all for somehow cleaning house and regulating part of that industry. HOW is the other story. It's very similar to the pharmaceutical industry.

I find it interesting though. In our county, before people who actually have insurance get cared for, there are illegal aliens who come here and get insurance cards from the county. They load our hospitals get FREE care while many of us get pushed aside. Thing is, they KNOW every test to take so that they get full coverage. They know the in's and out's. I find it very disturbing that citizens can't get proper healthcare for an affordable cost.

I have my own idea of what I'd do to save costs not just with medical care, but overall in our state, but again, I'll stay away from the politics. I don't think New York Governor would care what MY plan is anyways.

But I certainly understand what your saying about the medical industry. I'd like to see a non-partial third party NOT with the gov't OR the medical industry who has the background, knowledge and know all to revamp the system. It's possible, but no matter which way we look at it, it's going to get expensive!


Well, so glad you were able to hear the baby's heartbeat. It's SO exciting when you can hear it. Just makes everything so REAL and miraculous!


Hope everyone is having a good day!!

 

[zb5]

I find it very disturbing that citizens can't get proper healthcare for an affordable cost.

So true!

2 weeks between visits and hearing the heartbeat isn't too bad. I was going to have to wait a month and didn't think I could make it! And that's not even long compared to how long some of the ladies on here have to wait. I'm a worrier too so I totally understand about the doppler. I just had to tell myself, if I don't hear anything, it doesn't mean anything.

Good night ladies! Hope you're all doing well.

 

[Fairybabe]

Wow I won't even pretend to try and understand the debate re the US healthcare system. It would be a wonderful leveller all round tho if all healthcare/pharmaceuticals could be made on a Not For Profit basis and all money immediately ploughed into research/improvements, not fat profits for the fatcats. BUt hey, that would be some kind of utopia! With all the changes rushing in so fast in the UK, i've no idea how our system will end up. I feel it will head towards privatisation through the back door, forcing a two tier system of those who can take out health insurance on top of state care, and those who can't. We shall see. But that's just my view. I just know i was really worried to read in the Times that when in labour some women are being denied epidurals purely because if they have one a midwife has to stay with them the whole time adn there just aren't enough midwives to do that. Not good!!

Anyway, healtcare aside....how is everyone doing today? Anyone else going through a really low emotional phase?? Weepy, blue etc? Gotta be a good sign right?

Mommy's Angel, had no idea about that kind of progesterone. Seems you are on top of the issue, which is great and will hopefully give you confidence in this pregnancy.

Gash, any less pukey today?

Fairy x

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Anyway, healtcare aside....how is everyone doing today? Anyone else going through a really low emotional phase?? Weepy, blue etc? Gotta be a good sign right?



Fairy x

Funny you mention this. Last night I told Doug I felt depressed. I'm VERY weepy this time around.

I seem to be on edge because NOTHING about this pregnancy is like my last one. In one instance I'm hoping it's a good thing because my last pregnancy didn't end very well, though my son is a gift and blessing I'll never forget.

This time though, I can't tell what's normal. I'm having lower back cramping that's pretty bad. For the most part I'm seeing the cramping is normal because the uterus is growing. Since my uterus is tipped, it makes sense that my lower back is crampy BUT, it can also be a sign of an incompetant cervix. I'm nauseated around the clock. NOTHING about food is making me hungry. In fact, we spent an hour trying to figure out what to eat for lunch today. I was in tears because I don't want ANY CHICKEN, I can't stand the texture of beef, fish smells, I don't want pasta, no soup, not interested and VERY limited to sandwiches because I can't have alot of sandwich meat. I just fell to tears until I landed on ordering a vegetarian pizza. I only had two slices and I've been sick ever since.

I'm freaking out about the cerclage time that my perinatologist has decided on between wks 16 and 20 which aren't preventative but would be during an actual problem. It FREAKS me out!

All this and I keep trying to tell myself to RELAX. I'm trying to control EVERYTHING and it's just NOT going to happen. It's just a matter of trusting God and knowing He's got it.

I hired a Dula and our first visit with her is in two weeks. She said the first thing she wants to talk about is my "triggers" and emotions from what happened with Jackson. She said her goal is to get me to relax a bit more and be able to enjoy this pregnancy. It's a gift from God this meeting because I think I REALLY need to do this. I'm just SO on edge that I think it's becoming evident that I'm not able to enjoy this beautiful gift I've been given with this pregnancy.

I don't know, like you, I'm very emotional. I feel very inadequate not just about the pregnancy but EVERYTHING in my life. I hope this isn't a precurser to post pardum depression. Hopefully it's just a first trimester issue and will go away in the second trimester. All I know is I want to ENJOY this pregnany without falling prey to fear and anxiety.

 

[zb5]

Mommy's Angel and Fairy - I think it is totally normal for your mood to vary a lot at this point. But, I have a friend who got severe antenatal depression and it was very unpleasant. So if it sticks around too long I'd definitely see the doctor about it. She actually had to take a month or so off work because it got so bad before she started treating it. I hope this isn't the case for you ladies though and it's just normal pregnancy moodiness.

I had never heard of antenatal depression but she said it was quite common but not as well understood as post partum depression. It is one of those things where once I heard about it, I started seeing it everywhere. I think there was a post about it in First Tri also.

Every woman's body responds to hormones so differently. I have definitely had low points where I worried about baby's health. But overall I actually feel kind of... sedated. It's weird. I haven't had many bad feelings, but I feel like also my good feelings are a little damped down too. I haven't had many crazy hormonal outbursts. But hey, there is still time for that!

P.S. My ultrasound today went perfectly. There's a picture in my journal.

 

[Mommy's Angel]

Oh goody Z, I'll be taking a look at the picture. Glad the scan went well.


Well, I've decided to get a second opinion from a perinatologist. Not sure if I mentioned it in here, but with everything that's gone on with my last pregnancy, I think that's one issue that I'm on edge about. Both the perinatologist here who is the only one in 14 counties AND the neonatal hospital here which is supposed to be tops were negligent. When I lost my mucus plug, I was supposed to have an antibiotic suppository and a cerclage, had I been listened to my son would still be here. Then at the hospital, since it was after hours, I was given two options. To go home, because Nicu couldn't intervene so early OR stay there with my legs up hoping the baby would go back down the canal. No drugs were offered within the critical 24 hour period.

Needless to say we sat before the hospital board of directors. They were just excited we didn't sue however, my husband works for them on an EXCELLENT unit and I didn't want to start anything but only change proceedures.

Anyways, I'm back at the perinatologists office that botched the last pregnancy and while the perinatologist is nice, she's got a "wait and see" approach to cerclaging. I'm not CONFIDENT with her approach at all and REFUSE to go through another second trimester loss.

So Fridays appointment I'm going to tell her I'm not confident with the wait and see approach. I'm also not confident that these Dr.'s are hesitant to perform cerclages and will wait until something actually happens to do them when there's actually more risk than cerclaging with prevention at wks 13 or 14.

So after thinking about it some, I decided to make an appointment with an excellent perinatologists office over two hours away who is affiliated with strong memorial hospital which is an AWESOME reputable hospital. I was pleased with the conversation I had on the phone and felt welcomed instead of as if I was a "chore" to talk with.

My husband is nervous because of the travel. He wants to be sure that we can actually make it to the hospital when it's time. It'll put slightly more stress on him. But I also would LOVE to have my baby there instead of the hospital that was negligent in SO many areas the last time.

I think this whole issue is one reason I'm so on edge and crying all the time. I don't know how much of an advocate to be without being overbaring. I don't want to hurt anyones feelings, but I also don't want another second trimester loss. The scarey part of it all is that I'm terrified of stepping on this perinatologists feet for the second opinion.

 

[Fairybabe]

Mommy's Angel, it's too important to worry about stepping on the perinatologist's toes. I can totally understand why you don't have confidence in that particular person and hospital department. You've gotta do what gives you peace of mind. And if that's a 2hr trip and a diff doc, then so be it. I've said from day 1 that i thought i had a progesterone prob, as my charts showed a short luteal phase. Even after the second loss they refused to test me. It's only cos i insisted on being tested for pcos that they happened to test my progesterone, not becuase of the miscarriage link. Lo and behold, it was way too low. It's only cos of that i have the suppositories now. Trust your instincts. If it's to fight and go to a diff hospital, then i'd do it too.

Hugs

Fairy x