Over 40 Natural BFP with DHEA CoQ10 Vitex Black Cohosh Low AMH

[Briss]

Happypregnant, thanks for sharing that's so encouraging to know that even when you do not do it with your legs up in the air you can still get pregnant. although in the last 3 years I've tried it all, obsessing, relaxing NTNP, every day, every other day, every 3 days, only once etc, we've used almost every position known to men but nothing worked for us so far. I've been on tonnes of supplements for the last 1.5 years and last 10 months on Chinese herbs but I am beginning to lose faith that any of this actually makes any difference

Hi I read you. But have you guys been checked? Fallopian tubes ok? Sperm count ok? Womb ok? Hormones ok? Etc...

we have low sperm count and most recently high FSH. I was hoping we could still get pregnant naturally but it does not look like it’s ever going to happen

 

[BBbliss]

Blythe, thank you for thinking of me...it really was very cruel. To think I was PG and then eveyday after keep holping for that second line again. I was very sad yesterday, but im fine today. I think I'll be joining you and trying clomid this cycle. Now that AF is here I have to come to a decision today. How are you doing with it? any recomendations? how about the supplements? what are your thoughts?

 

[Happypregnant]

Happypregnant, thanks for sharing that's so encouraging to know that even when you do not do it with your legs up in the air you can still get pregnant. although in the last 3 years I've tried it all, obsessing, relaxing NTNP, every day, every other day, every 3 days, only once etc, we've used almost every position known to men but nothing worked for us so far. I've been on tonnes of supplements for the last 1.5 years and last 10 months on Chinese herbs but I am beginning to lose faith that any of this actually makes any difference

Hi I read you. But have you guys been checked? Fallopian tubes ok? Sperm count ok? Womb ok? Hormones ok? Etc...

we have low sperm count and most recently high FSH. I was hoping we could still get pregnant naturally but it does not look like it’s ever going to happen

Hi in quest to trying to get pregnant, a doctor in India told me how to get my FSH lower. He got me taking 60,000 IU of vitamin D3 once a week. I thought it was excessive until I researched it. His name is doctor Malpani and he has an amazing blog with hundreds of questions answered. You can register on his website. He was one of candidates for IVF. I was going to travel to India and have mini IVF's done... But I didn't have to. He also had me taking wheat germ oil tablets. Look it up. You can buy VitD3 easily on line on 5,000 IU units per.tablet. I took 12 in one go once a week for 8 weeks. Here I am, 6 months pregnant! Although I had to go to a specialist that treated me with antimallarial tablets (no, I didn't have malaria) to calm my immune system down as it was killing my embryos! Also my husband does not have brilliant sperm count. He had a vasectomy reversal. But all it takes is one!! You may want to visit a specialist for failure to get pregnant. My immune system was also killing his sperm!! You could have a blood.test.done. I honestly believe that girls that are older and have a hard time conceiving or holding on to the pregnancy, have immune issues! That is why the specialist I went to has so much success. There is also an IVF clinic here in London that he has an unbelievable high success rate to the point that he got investigated because it was exceptionally good!!! Happens that he was clean and treats patients with the same drugs my specialist does! The tablets only cost £20! (consultation and blood test.fees.separately) I can't think of the name of this other doctor but I can give it to you if you wanted to research it.

 

[notrustyyet]

Notrustyet Congrats on being a MOM!!!!

Question for you.

I'm starting Clomid next month. Should I discontinue BC or Vitex?

Thanks! I'm exhausted of course, but enjoying every moment!

I would keep taking BC as in study I quoted (original post 1st pg) Take 120mg, 2 divided doses, Cd 1-12, to improve clomid response/lessen side effects for uterine lining.. I would stop the Vitex though during Clomid cycle, it's redundant...

Some very beautiful moments... Congratulations!

I was going to ask same thing and also vitex was wonderful getting my temps up after O and I'm not on clomid yet, maybe next month... So in case I get BFP now I read its not good to stop vitex abruptly as it may drop your progesterone. What do you recommend?

definitely don't drop the vitex abruptly, you could skip days and wean off. but best thing, W/ your 1st preg checkup w/ missed period ask your md to put you on prometrium asap I took 100 mg 2x/day 1st tri just in case my prog low...

 

[Briss]

Happypregnant, thank you very much for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience.

If my FS had her way, I'd have had IVF 2 years ago but I did not want to listed and was sure that we can get hubby's sperm improve and also if I change our lifestyle things will happen on their own. in the meantime my FSH was getting higher with every blood test. I've spent the entire year trying to get my FSH lower, I made dramatic changes to my lifestyle, after reading a few books by women with high FSH I followed their advice and put myself on tones of vitamins, I've done weekly acupuncture and chinese herbs twice a day and lots of other thongs, you name it I've probably done it, most recently I added 4,000 IU of vitamin D to my daily regime but as a result of my efforts my FHS moved to all time high at 19 (last year it was 12-13), it was devastating, all my efforts for nothing, it's just getting worse.

I've read that taking vitamin D may interfere with your AMH results, they will be higher but whether that means that your egg reserve actually become better or not is not clear.

do you know what wheat germ oil does? it's not on my list of supps at the moment but I am open to anything.

I've heard that immune system can interfere with conception process, all these vitamins definitely made my immune system stronger cos these days I do not even have a common cold, I wonder if I should stop with the vitamins altogether not to support my immune system cos my DH's sperm is so weak. There is a famous clinic in London that specialises in immune issues, they put women on much more meds than even conventional IVF (not sure if this the same clinic as you were referring to), unfortunately I recently found out that their fantastic statistics is explained by the fact that they treat over 35 and high FSH ladies at their sister clinic, not to spoil their stats...

maybe it's just my general frustration as I've been in this process full time for over 3 years now but I begin to think that nothing we do really matters and it's just a matter of chance

 

[Blythe]

Happypregnant, thank you very much for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience.

If my FS had her way, I'd have had IVF 2 years ago but I did not want to listed and was sure that we can get hubby's sperm improve and also if I change our lifestyle things will happen on their own. in the meantime my FSH was getting higher with every blood test. I've spent the entire year trying to get my FSH lower, I made dramatic changes to my lifestyle, after reading a few books by women with high FSH I followed their advice and put myself on tones of vitamins, I've done weekly acupuncture and chinese herbs twice a day and lots of other thongs, you name it I've probably done it, most recently I added 4,000 IU of vitamin D to my daily regime but as a result of my efforts my FHS moved to all time high at 19 (last year it was 12-13), it was devastating, all my efforts for nothing, it's just getting worse.

I've read that taking vitamin D may interfere with your AMH results, they will be higher but whether that means that your egg reserve actually become better or not is not clear.

do you know what wheat germ oil does? it's not on my list of supps at the moment but I am open to anything.

I've heard that immune system can interfere with conception process, all these vitamins definitely made my immune system stronger cos these days I do not even have a common cold, I wonder if I should stop with the vitamins altogether not to support my immune system cos my DH's sperm is so weak. There is a famous clinic in London that specialises in immune issues, they put women on much more meds than even conventional IVF (not sure if this the same clinic as you were referring to), unfortunately I recently found out that their fantastic statistics is explained by the fact that they treat over 35 and high FSH ladies at their sister clinic, not to spoil their stats...

maybe it's just my general frustration as I've been in this process full time for over 3 years now but I begin to think that nothing we do really matters and it's just a matter of chance

i feel much the same at the moment. i walked past my acupuncturists earlier and sort of hid my face when i walked past. i have two sessions to go with them and i will do them at some point. im due to ovulate after the weekend and generally i would have got acu around then but i just thought...what is the bloody point!

 

[BBbliss]

Hello girls, things are not good for me it looks like. I feel pretty sad right now. Click on lick if you'd like

https://babyandbump.momtastic.com/trying-conceive-over-35/1964541-hsg-bad-news.html#post28982931

 

[ByAnyMeans]

NotRustyYet, just found out about your journal from Milty, thanks both!

I will start from the start - phew with your 30 and Crystal's 144 pages, I have to really find some time for this, but I like how this started out. I am sure I will learn something....

 

[Happypregnant]

Hi ladies, how is everyone?

 

[eagermom14]

Hi, nottrusty,

Thanks for sharing your amazing plan, you're insipiring. I am 44, been TTC for 10 months. I noticed your FSH was very low; mine at 28, docs don't give me much hope. It helps to read stories like yours!!

Where did you look up all your info for what to take? You did a lot of research!
Bless you and your little one!!

 

[notrustyyet]

Hi, nottrusty,

Thanks for sharing your amazing plan, you're insipiring. I am 44, been TTC for 10 months. I noticed your FSH was very low; mine at 28, docs don't give me much hope. It helps to read stories like yours!!

Where did you look up all your info for what to take? You did a lot of research!
Bless you and your little one!!

I researched on Pubmed, Dr Sher's (RE) blog/website has tons of info, Dr Malpani site, and lots of TTC blogs, gleaning experience from other women who've BTDT like here....can't remember all.....

keep looking here though, I'm 10 months PP (45 yrs) still breastfeeding, but my cycles resumed 7 mos PP, but wonky a bit. First one had follicular activity (TONS of EWCM,) but no LH surge, so no O, followed by a really light period. Cycles are getting shorter and more regular each month. I'm going for CD 3 bloodwork in a couple days to check what my FSH etc is as I would love to have one more child if possible.

I will probably consult with a naturopath who specializes in fertility this time as I have Hashimoto's thyroid (thyroid antibodies), and my TSH is now 4.5, was low 2's when conceved at 43, is still in the so called "normal" range, not on synthroid, but people w/Hashi's can be more prone to MC/implantation failure and have high NK cells that attack fetus....plus not sure if my TSH needs to be lower to concieve...

 

[Briss]

notrustyyet, I am glad you mentioned TSH, mine was 2 last year and this year it's getting closer to 4. Still within normal range but I do know that somehow under active thyroid and infertility are related. Although I am not sure what can be done except for hormonal treatment. My mum has under active thyroid but it was revealed only after her second child was born and it was about 40 times the norm.

 

[Happypregnant]

and have high NK cells that attack fetus....plus not sure if my TSH needs to be lower to concieve...[/QUOTE]

Hi i thought i was the only crazy one to want to have another baby lol... I read you have a high NK cell count... I had the same problem except I took drugs. What did you do to be able to tame them down? If you are breastfeeding there isn't much you could take, is there?

 

[JoSri]

Notrustyet
I salute thee! I could nt resist to register this site, so I could send my appreciation for you!
You are an example of a personified determination!
You have consolidated zillion number of hour that u spent on ur research on ttc journey into one long post so clearly.. I appreciate ur compassion for others who are in the same boat. I m also gonna be 43 year old. Ttc #2 for almost two year, just old fashion way with a weekly acupuncture treatments. But ur post gave me jump start and shook me up to be more aggressive and proactive about the effort. I don't have enough time left to dilly dally ,, you know. I must have read ur post about 100 time so far, because it is so packed with info an d ur experiences.
Btw did u take any extra Vitamin d3 like dr Malpani blog says? Just curious. I am going to start a low dose of DHEA My Fsh is in range of 14. I know it is just a number.

 

[soulisthesea]

Notrustyet
I don't know if you will read this as you haven't posted in quite some time, but I want to thank you! I am 40 and have hashimotos and we tried for over a year with no luck. I was losing hope and then somehow I came across your post. I followed your advice in your very first post and I am now 26 weeks with a baby girl. I really do believe I owe you a huge thank you.. If I hadn't read all of the information you gave I may still be trying. I went to the health store, started taking everything you advised, and it worked! I am so happy

 

[vkj73]

congrats!

 

[Mibellee]

Thank you for such a detailed post and giving hope where hope is needed.
God bless.

 

[sugargully]

I'm another success story from Notrusty's post. After a failed IUI and IVF round I followed her plan for 2 cycles. I had my BFP by the 3rd cycle this summer! I'm 14 weeks with my little one due in May 2016.

I'm so grateful to you and to God for making this happen for us.

 

[Irish_eyes]

Sugargully congratulations

How much DHEA did you take? I have DHEA on order but I can't take Vitex as I take Bromocriptine for high prolactin levels.

My one and only IVF failed a few years ago and I can't afford another go so this is my only option.

 

[notrustyyet]

I'm another success story from Notrusty's post. After a failed IUI and IVF round I followed her plan for 2 cycles. I had my BFP by the 3rd cycle this summer! I'm 14 weeks with my little one due in May 2016.

I'm so grateful to you and to God for making this happen for us.

WOW, I haven't been on here in ages, my little one is 2.5 now that I had at 44, and I am thrilled that so many of you have gotten BFP following what gave me success. I'm actually taking my own advice and trying for another. I'll be 47 in a month. My friend and L&D nurse for years tells me she has seen women get naturally preg up to age 50, just takes longer. Only thing different is I'm on Armour thyroid after being on Synthroid a few months postpartem (Hashi's) didn't take meds before or during preg, TSH always just barely in normal range. I feel so much better, less tired, and periods improved. I was taking a low dose of DHEA like 25-35 mg for about 18 mos, no luck/BFP but massive hair fall, like clumps coming out in shower, so I'm off that for now.