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[Ummi2boyz]

Dairy: those numbers are encouraging. I hope it helps you keeping calm until your scan. I think you've got the right attitude in trying to keep to your daily routine as much as you can. I'm so much hoping for good news for you.

I had my appointment with the consultant today. Here is a copy/paste from my journal:

Just finished with the doc. She gave me some meds for the vomiting to try out. If it doesn't work out she said to come to the triage mw and get "properly" assessed. I hope it works. I'm sick of being sick! My urine Sample was a bit weird so it's been sent to the lab. And I had a swab taken for the thrush that came back again!! Argh! Otherwise, baby is fine, but wad hiding so it took ages for the doc to find the hb. I'm glad she was moving so I knew she was ok. Doc confirmed that according to the last scan the baby's kidneys are ok. And she gave me the green light for the birth centre.

Only one thing is that she seemed to be annoyed that I had so many questions and was taking so long. I already had to chase everything since the beginning, so I think I should be the one who is annoyed!! At least I am taking charge of my and the baby's health! I'm glad I met very good people on my other appointments.

Next appt is in 2 weeks time with the mw.

 

[Mrs Reineke]

I haven't been on in a few days and I'm finally caught up I think!!

Tasha, Congrats on hitting your milestone!! I've thought about doing a reassurance scan, but I'd have to go to another clinic and then they send the results to my doctor and I just has a friend that did this and they said it looked like she had growths in her uterus and she needed to get into her doctor right away for an official scan and when she did, it was just a small pocket of blood that was nothing to worry about and would disolve in her 2nd trimester. So I almost wonder if something was seen it would scare me more then I already am. So I haven't decided what to do. I have 6 weeks until my anatomy/gender scan. I'm hoping I can just hold off. I'm definently feeling some movement now and I've used my doppler once a day for only a few moments. I find the hearbeat, let it registar the bpm and turn it off. So hoping that will get me by until then. I asked my doctor about using my doppler and she said it was fine. Once a day for less than a minute shouldn't do anything right?

Mowat, congrats on being cleared for a vaginal delivery!! That's exciting!!

DSemcho, do you use your doppler every day? I think you are a mother from the moment you get pregnant. Celebrate Mother's Day all you want!! Honestly I just want a healthy baby, but deep down I think it would be fun to have a little boy. Excited to hear about your scan today!!

florida, I can't even begin to tell you how sorry I am that you are going through this again. We are here for you and take time to heal and take care of yourself before making any decisions on where to go from here.

Wookie, your advice to florida was what I needed to hear. I've been so terrified of all the "what ifs" I'm driving myself insane. I always think worst case senario. It's horrible. Just like you said, the what ifs will drive you crazy if you let them. I need to stop doing this to myself.

newlywedtzh, you had mentioned your doppler got you through. How often did you use it?

melfy, wow...I couldn't even imagine what you went through and are going through with your relationship with your ex. That has got to be incredibly overwhelming.

dairy, well...your numbers are excellent!! I'm praying this is just nothing to worry about and baby is fine. I know a lot of women spot or have some bleeding throughout their pregnancies. I'm hoping that is the case and your scan will show all is well.

loeylo, congrats on your great scan last week!!

SweetV, try not to over do it with work. You'd rather not over do it and have a healthy baby, then over do it and it cause problems. They need to understand.

Ummi2boyz, I'm glad your appointment went well, but I'm sorry you're feeling so crappy still. Hoping the medicine will help you.

AFM: Had my appointment this last Thursday. Didn't have a scan, it was just a check up. She did listen to baby's hb with a doppler and said my uterus was in between my pelvic bone and belly botton which is where is should be at this point. I'm 16 weeks today. Then I went and got my blood drawn for the quad screen and to re-check my blood clotting levels to make sure they have not increased. I asked her again about that and she said she wants me to try to not worry about it and continue to take the baby aspirin. She said having me do blood thinners is a big decision and she really doesn't feel it's necessary in my case. So, I have to trust her decision and advice. If my levels have increased, then we'll go from there. With the quad screen, it's optional and we decided to have it done. Part of me is glad we did so we can know if there is a possible issue with our baby, but part of me is wondering if I shouldn't have because I'm panicking waiting for the results. I had it drawn on Friday of last week and they said it takes about a week to get the results. I've just been saying a lot of prayers that is comes back looking normal. I'm hoping to hear by the end of this week. I am trying my best to not think about it, but it's impossible for me. I'm worrying a lot right along with all of you ladies. I also asked my doctor about using my doppler because with my anxiety lately I've used it for a very quick amount of time daily to check in on my baby. It gives me peace of mind knowing it's little heart is still beating away. She said there's nothing known with them to cause problems, but I'm still hoping if I do check it daily for less than a minute it is ok?? I literally find it, let it registar the bpm and turn it off.

 

[newlywedtzh]

Aw Mrs. R haha I can sense this anxiety in your post. You're just like I was when I was pregnant. The thing with the Doppler Is that they just DONT KNOW what the affects are so they can't say for certainty it's completely safe bc it's never been studied, that's all. I think once you start to feel regular movement you won't use it as much. I didn't get mine until 14 weeks and I thought I was going to use it way more than I did. Probably 2x a week until I started to feel regular movement (I think 18 weeks is when I was certain it was baby?) and then honestly only once in a blue moon but it's fine. If it gives you peace of mind then think the benefits outweigh the risks (which I don't think there are any documented risks, maybe someone else can comment).

 

[Mrs Reineke]

Thank you newlywedtzh. It's definently peace of mind for my worries. So I'm hoping if I use it less than a minute to maybe a minute each day I'm not doing any harm. I have started to feel flutters, but it's not obvious enough yet to feel good about them. I know once I can feel the baby better and more regularly I will be a lot more confident and stop using it. But it's helped me a lot lately.

 

[Ummi2boyz]

I agree with newly. A lot of women used it every day and had perfectly healthy babies.
I chose not to get a doppler because I simply would have freaked out if one day I couldn't found the hb. But not bc I thought it would be harmful.
Remember that worrying will simply not help, and you should try and enjoy every moment of this pregnancy. Because when you get your rainbow, you will wonder where those 9 months are gone!

 

[Mrs Reineke]

Thank you Ummi2boyz. I really appreciate your advice.

 

[dairymomma]

MrsR-As the pp have said, the effects of dopplers haven't been studied but plenty of ladies have used them and their babies are fine. I think it's a comfort level thing really and if it helps ease your anxiety and stress then it's probably a good thing because it's not good for you or baby to be stressed. As for me, I choose not to use one because most of my losses have been before you could reliably use a doppler anyway so I feel it would cause more strain for me. Also, my dr sees me whenever I want in the first tri and he uses an u/s to confirm the hb when I'm there so I get to see bubs usually every other week from 7-8 weeks til 14-16 weeks. That helps alot too. Dh won't let me get a doppler anyway because he's (rightfully in my opinion) worried that I would practically keep it glued to my belly until 20 weeks. But as I said, it's a comfort level thing and if it helps ease your fears for the day, then it's probably what YOU need.

AFM-Just sitting here doing my usual evening routine-finish chores, make supper, pick up a bit, wipe some pink/brown discharge, maybe pass a clot. I wish those numbers could have eased my mind...Thursday can't come soon enough.

 

[petitpas]

Happy v-Day, Tasha!

D, good luck with your scan. I'm sorry to hear about your friend's baby's eye but you know what? One of my bnb friends is missing one eye. I've met her several times and you can't tell at all!!! She drives, too.

Dairy, I'm so happy reading your update. I know it doesn't mean you are out of the woods yet but if you don't mind I will remain hopeful for you

MrsR, I know of no documented risk of using a doppler but there is evidence that stress can cause problems during pregnancy. I'd using the doppler reduces your stress then go for it! Even twice a day if that helps
Also, with the screening tests no news tends to be good news. Here they contact you within 48h if there is an issue. Otherwise, the results come in the post after a couple of weeks.

 

[dairymomma]

Petit-go for it. I'm not very hopeful myself so I'll take what I can get elsewhere. I think it'd be easier to hope if I KNEW there was a baby in there but I've had things go south with fantastic numbers before and those clots just scared the bejeezus outta me.

 

[DSemcho]

MrsR - I only use my dopplers now on Saturday's. Unless I don't feel movement all day lol.

Scan went great! Baby has everything and is perfect - had all four heart chambers, long legs, big head (like his dad). Kept grabbing his ting ting and being stubborn (both like his dad) and hyper like me. Went to sleep for about 10 minutes during the ultrasound which was adorable. He got mad when the ultrasound stick thing by right below my belly button and punched it twice, then got mad and started kicking my lower left side and my cervix - it was crazy seeing him doing it on the ultrasound lol. Also got to see him opening and closing his mouth like a sucking motion. Fluid level was fine at 16.65 and instead of being 20+1 like medical has me he was measuring 21 even, which puts me back spot on with my LMP. They said that the him being so large could mean gestational diabetes, but I'm getting that checked soon anyways. He was in the 89th (or 9th) percentile for his gestational age.. Idk exactly how that works, I just know I have a big boy.

 

[Tasha]

Mrs R. I understand why you would worry about a scan, leave it there as an option though. As for the Doppler, I used to use it a few times a week, then once every couple of weeks, now I've used it once in about six weeks. The need will probably get less as those movements get more. The once that I used it was when baby decided it wasn't going to move for two days, other than that I feel no need what so ever, it's likely the same will happen for you.

Dairy, fab numbers. Still everything crossed.

ummi, I think doctors are use to people just agreeing with what they say, never questioning as we are taught that they're right from a young age. So it throws them when people ask questions, when they want to know why they recommend this or that. My doctor knows me very well now and just laughs at me because I question everything, but he says it's good I take ownership of my pregnancy and baby. Same goes for you, your close to the end now and it's important you feel confident in her decisions. Fab news about the birth centre, I always wanted a birthing centre birth.

D, glad the scan was good.

AFm - I'be got a scan tomorrow (the growth one I have every two weeks) and I just booked a 3d scan too, so I'm excited about that.

When I lay on my back now it feels like I can't breath. It's odd!

 

[Tasha]

Oh and if your boy is big then it's 89th, 9th would be small and under the 10th they get concerned x

 

[DSemcho]

Thank you Tasha! I haven't understood those things when people tell me haha.

I understand the not being able to breathe bit, when I lay on my back now it hurts sometimes because he doesn't like it. That's got to be amazing to see it every two weeks and actually watch the small changes! I get to see mine again on the 17th because I'm paying for a private scan that day.

 

[Tasha]

It sounds all weird but just means out of a hundred babies that are your babies gestation, 11 would be bigger than yours and the rest smaller.

I mostly find hospital scans scary but it's nice to have the reassurance one they're done.

 

[wookie130]

I'm not one to advise people to rely on anecdata such as this, but I was obsessed w/my doppler, and used it everyday, sometimes more than once, with both of my kids. My toddler and infant are just fine!

 

[DSemcho]

The only reason I don't use it everyday is because I would run out of gel stuff all the time lol. I'm a cheapo. Plus it keeps me from worrying. But now that I'm feeling him a lot I don't worry as much.

 

[SweetV]

I used my doppler all the time in previous pregnancies. I agree that once you start to feel them the use becomes less and less. It's great reassurance in-between scans that everything is ok.

 

[loeylo]

I'm tempted to buy/rent a Doppler, I'm 10+6 so don't know if it is still a bit early. I'm at the top end of healthy weight but I do tend to carry a bit weight on my belly.

Also, is it ridiculous that I feel that I am changing shape already?

Hope everyone is well.

 

[dairymomma]

D-glad you had an amazing scan. Gotta love watching those little beans, right? LO kept punching the wand because she didn't like it and would try to move away. It was funny to watch my belly suddenly shift to one side and see her moving on the screen at the same time.

Tasha-good luck with the scan and I hope you really enjoy that 3d one.

AFM-teeny bright red strings again last night. And I mean teeny. It was so weird when it happened. It's bright red, doesn't look like clots (which are dark red/purple almost), and I'll have what looks like red wee on the tp for a half hour. I had a bit of a backache right before it happened but absolutely nothing after. I'm SO sick of this crap happening. I just want to know what's going on. And it doesn't help that last night I had a dream where the scan was done and the dr found bubs had implanted and then grown through my uterus to attach to my bladder and that was causing the spotting and the pg obviously couldn't continue. It's my first m/c dream for this pg and I can tell this limbo stuff is starting to get to me but I don't think I can get my scan moved up at all so it doesn't pay to try.

 

[SweetV]

Dairy - I hope the next few days pass quickly and uneventfully until your scan on Thursday.