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[blueblue]

Ummi - thank you! Just saw your ticker, 13 days to go

Sweet - thanks . It was quite poignant as it was the early pregnancy unit (hospital's choice to send us there, not mine) and I've had a lot of bad news there previously. Also, it was incredibly busy today and I know a lot of ladies were there for the same reason I've been there before, I'm really hoping they got good news too.

 

[hopeful23456]

so sorry to hear that dairy are you getting a scan today?

congrats on the good scans girls and mitchi - hope it's all well with yours too

 

[nessaw]

Congrats on the scans hope and blue.
Hi mitchi.
Not much to report here-some nausea which I am welcoming with open arms!

 

[Mitchi]

Thanks for your well wishes girls! Great news on everyone's scans!
Fingers crossed mine will show a healthy bubs but at the mo still spotting lots and it just doesn't feel right.

 

[InVivoVeritas]

Dairy -- I'm so sorry to hear about your two little ones, especially having just seen the heartbeat. Be gentle with yourself and give yourself everything you need to heal from this. I hope this time you'll get proper answers.

Tasha -- what a gorgeous picture! It's hard to balance being so happy the new little one's doing well and mourning your lost one at the same time.

Blue -- that's fantastic news about your scan. There's nothing like actually seeing the baby move to plant that seed of hope that all will be well this time.

Mitchi -- Congratulations!! Sounds like this pregnancy is already fighting the odds. Sending good thoughts to you for Tuesday.

Hope -- Yay for a perfect scan! Now you can relax for a while, and hopefully start to feel movement soon.

Ummi -- best of luck for Friday. Not long to wait until you meet her!!

Sweet -- hang in there, these weeks are the hardest part. I've never bought a Doppler, mainly because I know I'd make myself insane the times I couldn't find the heartbeat. When are you next due to have a scan?

Mowat -- hope those two are on their way! Exciting times -- keep us posted.

Loeylo -- hope the midwife appointment went well. Are you picking anything up on the Doppler yet?

Wow, everybody's been busy.

Me, I'm chugging along feelling nicely nauseous and exhausted one day but absolutely fine the next. I just need to get through these early days and on to the good stuff.

 

[dairymomma]

hopeful-no, I had a scan yesterday to see what was going on and it confirmed the loss. I just have to schedule my followup with the dr but I'm not doing that until after my first AF.

AFM-doing okay today. Better than I expected actually. Something that dr I talked to yesterday has been kind of stuck in my head. He said that sometimes women get pg with an egg that normally wouldn't have fertilized because there was something wrong with it. He called it hyper-fertility and mentioned based on what I was telling him of when my pg are occurring that I may be hyper-fertile right now. I am tending to agree because this loss, as much as I as hurt and sad yesterday, isn't hitting me quite so bad today and my BOs have been the same way. I recover much faster after one of those so this hyper-fertile thing sort of makes sense. I do wonder too if I recognized on some subconscious level that this wasn't going to work out because the whole time I was pregnant it felt so surreal. I've never been that calm despite the bleeding and everything and once the m/c started I just had this huge feeling of inevitability. (I know I had that one panic attack but that was it. I had 3-4 of them with LO and never really settled down until I hit 20 weeks.) I have to say this was honestly the strangest pregnancy I've ever had both physically and mentally/emotionally.

 

[SweetV]

neesaw - glad you're finding comfort in your nausea.

Mitchi - I hope your scan goes well! I'm sorry for the spotting. I hope it stops soon

IVV - My next scan is next Wednesday (a week today). Ill be 9+6 and leaving my RE to be booked with a high risk dr.

Dairy - I'm glad to hear that you are ok.

 

[newlywedtzh]

dairy- i am a big believer in hyper-fertility! And believe it is one of my issues. I've gotten pregnant EVERY time I've caught the egg. I think scientists are just starting to do some research about it and what it means for RPL.

 

[mowat]

Oh Dairy I really hope you get some answers.

 

[Mrs Reineke]

Hello ladies,

First off dairy I am beyond sad for you. I can't believe you are having to go through this. It's been a roller coaster for you. I'm glad to hear that you're doing better than expected though. I'm hoping you will find the answers and be able to move on from this in time.

blue, congrats on everything going well with your scan!!

SweetV, I'm surprised you can get a reading with your doppler at all this early on!! That's a great sign!!

Tasha, absolutely love your scan picture!! I'm so sorry you have to have another one on the anniversary date of RR. But I truly feel this time will be different for you.

Ummi2boyz, yeah...I should just wait until 22 weeks. I've waited this long for Heaven's sake. LOL!!

Mowat, I'm glad things are looking good but hoping those baby's come soon. Excited for that!!

Mitchi, congrats on your pregnancy and I'm so sorry for your previous losses. I hope your scan shows a healthy baby in the right place for you.

AFM: Feeling pretty dang good really. Only symptoms I'm having are heartburn (never had it before pregnancy), round ligament pain every now and then towards the end of the day, stuffy nose while sleeping, headaches in the evenings, peeing a lot, increased cm, increased appetite. So really, can't complain! I'm also feeling fluttering movement every day!! Absolutely LOVE IT!! I haven't been using my doppler as much either.

 

[loeylo]

Not got time to properly reply but just wanted to say I'm so sorry dairy. I had hoped for better news but I hope you can at least get some answers. I just wanted to say I fully agree with the hyper fertility theory. I am sure it is a reason for my losses - I fall pregnant really easily (I have fallen pregnant when using condoms, when on the pill and when using the pull out method) and I'm sure that my body just lets those pregnancies with duff eggs continue longer than most women would. There was an article on the bbc about it a few years back and it sure does make sense. I had sickness from before my bfp with this pregnancy, and I have only ever been sick once in pregnancy before this, and it was during a long car ride. So this pregnancy seemed healthier from very early on, which sort of supports my theory!

Good luck everyone with scans coming up. Tasha, anniversaries are hard but as they say lightning doesn't strike in the same place twice. I hope that all is well!

Sorry not replying to people individually, I typed it out this morning and didn't save it properly! I'm off work on holiday but have been in the last two days doing supported study, I'm exhausted and have a tonne of marking. I started my in-real-life pregnancy journal and spent last night sticking things in it.

Got heartbeat on doppler 4 times yesterday (I think) but it takes ages each time. I'm already getting obsessed!

My doctors surgery is incompetent and told me the wrong time for my appointment (the receptionist even wrote it down so it wasn't my mistake!) and the mw had left, I burst out crying in the surgery but the midwife is lovely and carried out the prebooking over the phone for me. She is trying to book my scan now so I might manage to get the nt done (I'm 13w by last scan but that is a few days ahead of my lmp and earlier scans) - basically I have got 9 days I have my scan or I can't get the nt done, unless I am 3 days behind (as per lmp and earlier scans) in which case I have 12 days.

 

[SweetV]

Mrs. R. Pregnancy was the only time I have ever had heartburn as well. Yay for early flutters. I can not wait!

Loeylo - I'm glad they are trying to get you in to have the scan done on time. My last OB's receptionist was horrid for that stuff too and then tried to charge me for a missed appointment that she had written down wrong.

 

[Mrs Reineke]

loeylo, that's exciting you were able to find the hb so many times!! It is an amazing sound and very addicting!! I didn't have the NT scan done. My doctor didn't even mention it to me. I just opted to have the blood draw for the quad screening which came back normal. So if you can't get in for it, it's ok. I know you want it done, but I'm sure your baby is just fine and there's other tests they can do after that point if you choose to have them.

AFM: My little one has been moving the most I've felt today. They're still small movements and I cannot feel them from the outside, but now that I know what they feel like they're obvious. I only feel it when I'm sitting or laying down. I work at a bank, so I sit most of the time and I've felt a lot of flutters and pokes today!! It's incredible to me!!

 

[loeylo]

I want the nt done, not because I would terminate if I had bad results, but more to prepare myself. I can get the blood test done if I don't get the nt but it is slightly less accurate. We have discussed what we would do if we came back as high risk and we wouldn't have amino or Cvs so our only option would be to go private for panorama or harmony. So based on possibly spending £500+ or not, I want the results to be as accurate as possible if that makes sense.

Finding the heartbeat was amazing. I got really upset when it took ages to find one time so I can see it getting time a worry!

 

[mowat]

Babies are being really mean! No progress. Managed to escape the hospital for the night, but have to go back tomorrow.

 

[InVivoVeritas]

Mowat -- awww, the babies are making sure you're really, absolutely ready for them. Keep us posted!

Loeylo -- sounds like you have everything thought out. How unfair that mistakes by your clinic should make the next ten days so anxious. Hope that scan can bee booked soon.

Mrs. R -- those are those best weeks for me, those first movements getting stronger and stronger. Enjoy feeling your little one.

Dairy -- thinking of you.

Me, I'm paranoid today, and not feeling much in the way of symptoms. It's just too early.

 

[SweetV]

Mowat - those babies sure are stubborn!

IVV - I have the same feelings when I have no symptoms. It is very early, they will come.

 

[blueblue]

Mitchi - I hope the spotting stops soon

Nessaw - again, it seems strange to say it but glad you have morning sickness!

Dairy - hope you recover soon, be kind to yourself, you've been through a lot . I think there's something in the hyper-fertility theory - I also get pregnant easily, 3 out of 5 have been in the first month of trying. Like Loeylo, this is the first time I've had many of the symptoms, and they've been stronger than before. I'm glad your doctor is being helpful, does he have any suggestions? I have read about taking progesterone prior to conception helping your body implant healthy eggs, but I don't know much about it - does anyone else know anything about it?

Mrs R - congratulations on the fluttering movements!

Loeylo - hope you manage to get the nt scan. Congratulations on finding the heartbeat with the doppler.

Mowat - hope the babies get a move on soon.

IVV - I hope the symptoms come soon to put your mind at rest.

 

[dairymomma]

My plan right now is to do what I can naturally while I'm waiting for my appt with the dr. I don't see him until after my first AF mostly because I didn't feel I needed to see him sooner. He won't do the hsg or a scope until I'm at least 2 cycles past the loss anyway and DH and I are preventing pg via abstinence-since everything else we've tried has failed-so there's NO chance of another surprise pg. I'm also looking into starting a progesterone cream but no idea if it'll help at this point.

MrsR-movement is the best feeling in the world. And I'll tell you now that once you have that baby, every little pop/bubble/burble you feel in your belly after will remind you of those baby moves.

Mowat-hope those babies come soon. How frustrating but glad you escaped the hospital for a bit anyway.

 

[Mrs Reineke]

Hello ladies,

loeylo, I totally understand why you want the NT scan. I wish I was offered it, but it's too late now. Yes, if you can't find the hb on your doppler for a while it's scary. That has happened to me several times. I also stop and try again later because if the baby is in a weird position, it will be hard if not impossible to find it so early on.

mowat, those baby's will come when they are ready or are forced to come I suppose. Hoping they come soon for you.

IVV, I had many days where I felt pretty dang good in the beginning and other days where I felt awful!! So hang in there...enjoy the good days because it will most likely get worse before it gets better.

dairy, it seems like if you're able to get pregnant so easily to where the only guarentee is to not have sex at all, the hyper-fertility makes perfect since to me.