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[bumpyplease]

I'm on my phone so can't zoom in too much but they look great lines to me! They are prob not looking much darker as the days progress because they are already really dark!!! They are prob the same colour as mine, try not to worry hun xc

 

[Mom2mmcjg]

Just got my numbers back from my initial bloodwork. Everything looks good, except(isn't there always and except?)
I'm very Vitamin D deficient! My level was only 17, supposed to be over 30.
My progesterone is 22.5 which isn't bad but I have been taking suppositories for the past few days. My HCG is only 39.9, which is on the low end of normal for 12 DPO. I guess I'll find out more next time.

 

[3xscharmer]

Bumpy - thanks so much, in my heart I know that those are good/dark tests and that you're right, they probably wont change much b/c they are already so dark...but tell that to my crazy head lol! You got any pics of your tests? I'm going to try to wait a few days before testing again...I accidenatlly picked up some first response rapid result, which test from the first day of missed period, so I don't think they're that sensitive, but I got a nice line on it and will take another in 2-3 days, hoping for darker than control line...then again, who am I kidding? I'll probably go to the store and get some more lol!

Mom2mm - last pregnancy my hcg was 10 at 9 dpo and like 27 at 11 dpo, I think 30 at 12 dpo sounds good...why is that on the low side? I thought it was normal to be around that at this stage? Anyway, my hcg got up to 6800 before we stopped testing.

 

[HappyAuntie]

Happy auntie thanks so much for all this information, everything you said makes perfect sense to me. I've heard of mosaicism and I see what you mean. The bridge clinic screens for all the chromosomes but they could miss a mosaic couldnt they? Did your re recommend pgd to you or did he just objectively explain the pros and cons? Will pop on to your journal in a mo! Thanks

Ps did you ever get an amh test done? Mine was 17pmol about 6 months ago, I think that's ok isn't it? I know you have to have it done for ivf if we ever decide to go that route

My RE just objectively went over the pros and cons, and when I asked about the specific studies and articles I'd read, he said yep, it's an imperfect science at this time.

I did have my AMH tested a few months back, but I can't remember if that was required before IVF or not. It came back at 2 ng/ml - they use a different scale here in the US, and 2 is normal. My FSH is at around 6.2, if I remember correctly. It had gone up from 5.75 about 18 months earlier, which freaked me out a little even though it was just a tiny increase! I hate the stupid biological clock!!

 

[petitpas]

Fili, I can understand your belt and braces approach to this and therefore wanting the PGD. If you go natural, there is always a chance of an abnormality. - the same chance most women have, which I believe is currently estimated at around 15%? I might be wrong with that number but you get the gist of it. The good news is that we know your body produces good eggs, too. Your 3rd loss was chromosomally normal...

The questions I would ask your RE are what he estimates your chances to be of producing enough eggs to get through PGD and to implantation. Then ask him how that compares to your chances when trying naturally.

Auntie's point about the error margin doesn't surprise me as there was a lady on here a few months ago who had PGD followed by a miscarriage. It turned out that the baby had a trisomy. I have to say that this was the only case of a problem that I have read about but maybe your RE will be able to tell you more about the error margins with his clinic's procedure?

Regarding the prevention of miscarrying another healthy baby, I personally think that you have a very good chance by trying everything you had in your last pregnancy: heparin, aspirin, progesterone, steroids plus the vitamins in Mr S's protocol. The treatment fits the belt and braces approach and it is not something you have been able to try out on a normal/healthy baby yet.

I remember how hopeful you were with your last pregnancy when you tried out the steroids and I really hope to see you as hopeful again with your next - just for many months longer

3x, to me your tests look spot on! You go, girl!

Croy, I'm glad you don't have a uti..It is good to get checked out, though

AFM, I had a bit of drama the past couple of days when my blood results showed that my blood had become significantly more clottable (I may have made that word up but hope you get what I mean). At the same time ducky decided to take a prolonged rest freaking me out for two days (would have been ok but the clotting test pushed ne over the edge a bit).
I should be ok by the morning with a new heparin dose, though, and ducky decided that Doritos were too good an opportunity to miss for some celebratory kicks. So hopefully all is well again.

Tracie, sorry for being unresponsive. I wonder, have you been able to go out and show your baby off? Or are you more protective after your rpl ordeal and would rather keep her safe at home and to yourself?

 

[Mom2mmcjg]

Bumpy - thanks so much, in my heart I know that those are good/dark tests and that you're right, they probably wont change much b/c they are already so dark...but tell that to my crazy head lol! You got any pics of your tests? I'm going to try to wait a few days before testing again...I accidenatlly picked up some first response rapid result, which test from the first day of missed period, so I don't think they're that sensitive, but I got a nice line on it and will take another in 2-3 days, hoping for darker than control line...then again, who am I kidding? I'll probably go to the store and get some more lol!

Mom2mm - last pregnancy my hcg was 10 at 9 dpo and like 27 at 11 dpo, I think 30 at 12 dpo sounds good...why is that on the low side? I thought it was normal to be around that at this stage? Anyway, my hcg got up to 6800 before we stopped testing.

Now that I think about it, I had my blood drawn yesterday so that was 11 DPO. I guess I'll find out tomorrow if my numbers are okay or not. Praying for a big increase.

 

[3xscharmer]

Pet - thanks for the reasurance and so sorry about the drama you've been having, hope things get better soon!

Mom2mm - yeah 39 at 11dpo sounds like it's pretty good, I think that's well within the normal range, I believe it's more important that they double than the actual numbers themselves...at least that's what I've always heard!

 

[petitpas]

Mom, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that your numbers double!

As for the vit D deficiency, apparently it is very common with ladies who miscarry. Even more so than in the normal population (which is also somewhat deficient).
I had a specialist in the US advise me to take vitamin D supplements and it is also part of the treatment plan from my UK specialist.
Have you been told to take anything for it?

 

[Mom2mmcjg]

Yes, during my last pregnancy in September my doc put me on 5000 iu per day. I haven't been totally faithful with it between pregnancies, but I did expect it be higher than 17! Last pregnancy it was 25 and doc thought that was low! I'm totally faithful with it now.

 

[croydongirl]

mom - with this pregnancy I was 28 at 11 dpo. It the rise that matter - numbers really don't tell you much with a one off. I really hope this is a sticky bean for you.

Ladies, I have been freaking out all afternoon. Having twinges low on both sides today. I sent hubs to get the cream for the lovely yeast infection, so I am praying that I will go back to feeling normal once that starts working, but I really don't think the cramp/pa9ins and the infection are related. Just a little freaked out. Feeling kinda sicky and not quite right. And just want to feel better to know bubs is doing ok in there.

 

[heart tree]

Croy I'm with you. I don't have a yeast infection that I know of but I'm feeling the sensation that I think is my adenomyosis. I was trying to wean off progesterone again and on day 3 the sensation is here. Just like last time on day 3. So now I think I'm going to take another progesterone tonight. I also feel nauseous. I usually only use my Doppler quickly in the morning but used it again tonight because I was worried. I'm sure those pains are normal that you are having but I understand the freak out. I miss weekly scans! I'm sure you do too. Hang in there woman. Grab the Doppler if you need some assurance.

Pip, that's a scary story about your clotting and Ducky. Glad it's all ok now. Phew!

3x your lines look perfect.

Mom I agree with everyone else. One number doesn't mean anything. It's the doubling or the numbers that give a better indication.

I'm wiped out tonight. Can barely keep my eyes open. But if I go to bed at 6:30 pm I'll be awake at 2:30! Must keep eyes open for a few more hours!

 

[beth30]

Hey ladies, I just found your thread, and wondering if I can join?? I am so nervous and the only people that know what I am going through is the people that have been through the same as me... I am cramping a bit, and that makes me worry... My first beta was 37 @ 15 dpo...we think it was 15 dpo. LMP 1-9-12

 

[heart tree]

Congrats Beth and of course you can join. Are you getting a second beta done? The early days are so stressful, especially after recurrent losses.

 

[justwaiting]

Mum - My level was 39 at 15dpo but it went up to over 100 2 days later and rose quickly from there. No one ever mentioned that being low.

Pep - So sorry for your scare, hopefully they have it all sorted and ducky continues with the reassuring kicks!

Welcome beth and lots of positive thoughts for you

I've been having the pain and twinges on either side since the weekend and some shooting pains down there too. I'm sure it's just expanding, well I'm hoping anyway

 

[croydongirl]

Welcome Beth! I am pretty sure we were in a thread together on one of the ttc boards. So happy to see you have a little beanie growing!! Wishing you a healthy and happy 9 months, I look forward to sharing the journey with you.

I am feeling more positive about the cramps I think they are the round ligament pains or something. Still happy to be starting the cream tonight to get the infection cleared up! Hubby came home with beautiful roses, chocolate and vag cream. So romantic! ha ha

Good night ladies x

 

[filipenko32]

Croy I think you can be reassured by those pains Hun x
Pip thanks so much and Im so glad the dortitos got ducky on the move again! He was just chilling out somehow 'watching' and listening to the 'film' of your dramatic day the other day!!
Mom2 don't worry I can assure you it's the doubling time that is important x
Hi Beth, I know you from about 4 months ago when you kindly helped me out with a question. Congratulations!! I hope this one is your sticky one x

 

[filipenko32]

Heart are you ok? I'm sure the twinges are just normal stretchy pains. Cant believe how quick the time has gone and your nearly 16 weeks! xx

 

[Embo78]

Welcome and congrats Beth. I was stalking your pregnancy test thread. Your lines are progressing wonderfully. I bet your levels have doubled at your next beta. Is it tomorrow?

 

[daviess3]

Wow busy thread welcome to those who have joined keeping my fxd for you all. X
Pip scary stuff hun, so pleased all is well! Do you get extra tests for blood clotting? I had mine tested at beginning at st Mary's an was negative but wonder if I should be asking to be tested? Ah ducky like Doritos bless him my sis liked them with my nephew must b a boy thing!! X
Croy pleased u sorted ur vag out lol!! Mine isn't constant every now an again it's smelly strong wee but had it from start! Took my urine sample to mw an all normal but just can't stop going! Must be growing! X

Heart I had that twinges thing to buy had 8/9 days off prog now an haven't had any! Feels so nice to be off them! I check with my Doppler 3 times a day! But I find it within 5 secs no exaggeration! As soon as I put Doppler down I hear hb! X

Afm so constipated yesterday N finally managed to go to loo was so hard! Sorry tmi! I eat fruit drink loads water don't no what else to do! Was painful! X

 

[x_Rainbow_x]

Tracie I love it when you post as I live those 3 pics of Isabella she's well cute, is she feeling better now?

Hi 3x I know that feeling my tests are lighter some days and then get darker the next I haven't tested for a few days and I don't have many symptoms yet so feeling really nervous. How light are they? I'm sure you will be fine, maybe the beta testing will help reassure you.

Fili an AMH of 17 is fine sweetie, mine was 4.7 in sept so could well be lower now :0(

A little but she wont in a hour, shes got her first jabs daddys got that job because i refuse to go in