Pensioners or pregnant ladies?

[Scarletvixen]

personally i would give up my seat for a pensioner, i dont see why i need a seat just because im pregnant xx

 

[Sini]

Id give my seat up if I was feeling good and up for it. Any pain or discomfort Id sit tight.

 

[hellywelly]

personally i would give up my seat for a pensioner, i dont see why i need a seat just because im pregnant xx

Would you if you were in discomfort? I was walking around lakeside the other day and i got pain down below and needed to sit - thankfully there were plenty of seats around - but I was in pain xx

 

[oboeverity]

I'm the first to sympathise with the elderly, and one day I'll be there too, but I do see the other side of it. I refuse to stand there and be inconvenienced because someone is purely ignorant or rude; it sounds as though there were plenty of other places for those ladies to sit. I'm 39 weeks almost, with a 15 month old, and stood on a train the other day because the old ladies in the carriage didn;t want to leave their luggage in the allotted area, so left it in the buggy space. I've lost count of the number of times I've had to wait in poor weather for other busses because rude people with wheeled trollies sit in the buggy and wheelchair spaces. I would NEVER grumble if I had to make room for a wheelchair, but shopping trollies?! Not all disabilities are obvious; I'm partially sighted, and get tutted at enough for being slow to see or move; those ladies shouldn't have assumed that their need was greater.

 

[eatwotsits]

I am now starting to feel faint, get bump cramps, foot ache and generally start feeling very unwell quite quickly when out and about on my feet.

I would NOT be giving up my seat - to stand up, potentially faint and hurt my unborn baby??

No way OAP - find somewhere else. My priority is me and my LO.

 

[Maman]

I work for a company that cares for old people, so have to have a say....

I know some can be rude, but sometimes you have to think about what makes them like that. As previous posters have said, life can be real a struggle when you are old and I think about how I feel now, tired and grumpy sometimes, but at least its only a temporary thing. For old people, its just a struggle in which they will often become more and more frail.

Also as for rudeness, try and be patient, as we might all be like that one day! Many of them suffer from depression on top of their physical symptoms, plus they may have other diseases that can affect the way they think and behave. And like other sections of society some are just down right rude!!

My own experience is that if nothing else, if you show old people a bit of respect and kindness, they will pay you back with the same. Since I have been pregnant, I have been shown so much kindness and courtesy, it is really heartwarming. They are also a great source of advice regarding babies and pregnancy!

I just find it so sad that old people are stigmatised in this way, as we will be like it one day. I will get off my soap box now

surely respect is a two way street regardless of whats going on in your own life?

Once i got on the bus, with my son (yes, its a short bus ride, but my son was just starting to walk instead of pushchair, and i didnt want to push him too much) and two old ladies sat and discussed me as if i wasnt there, like 'oh thsts disgusting back in my day we used to have to walk, we'd never have had the money for busses, busses are for the needy, shes very lazy...'

I never said a word. Now my mil who i was very close to had just died weeks before, and my husband was in hospital with meningitis, and my feet and legs and other patches of my body had gone numb through stress... i didnt use that as an excuse to be rude.

On the other hand i have a friend who is 74, on the bus. Shes lovely, shes been married for 51 years and her husband is very very ill and nearly died a couple of years ago, shes his full time carer, and my heart skips a beat when i get the bus and shes not there as i always worry about her and her husband- but she has 5 grandkids to look after her. She says she still gets lonely. Shes a lovely lovely woman.

if i want to get on the bus, i will. if i need to sit down, i will. if someone needs my seat more than me (old or young) i will offer it, but not if i need it.

 

[Blah11]

I would get up always for the elderly but thats just me. especially on a bus as theyre way more likely to fall than me and break a bone.

HOWEVER, I also work for the elderly and I do not stand for rudeness. A lot of the patients come in and talk to us like dirt just cos they're old. Not on and we do not let them. I tell them its not acceptable and I won't help them if they're rude to me Soon shuts them up.

 

[oboeverity]

I had two old ladies insinuate that because I have a toddler and a bump, I'm only doing it for the 'free house'... actually, they didn't insinuate it, they SAID it... loudly. It's shame we only think of the comebacks after the moment...

 

[Stargazer77]

I really hate the 'youth of today' comments.

The youth of today were raised by the youth of yesterday, so there.

 

[stouffer]

I really hate the 'youth of today' comments.

The youth of today were raised by the youth of yesterday, so there.

Good point.

Maybe we should start generalising about "the elderly of today" when that phrase comes up, see how they like it

 

[robinator]

Ah, this is just like when someone is on my ass I make sure to do exactly the speed limit. If someone came huffing and puffing up to me, regardless of age, and began making a passive-aggressive scene about it, you can bet your ass mine would stay right where it is.

But it's not all about putting someone in their place (although it can be so FUN!!) - they may be old and feeble, but they are not carrying around extra poundage that is pushing on their lungs/liver/stomach/bowels, etc. I may be only 27 weeks, but I've had my moments where if I have to stand for moment longer I'm going to hit somebody. I've stopped in the middle of parking lots to lean up against posts to catch my breath! I know I'm preaching to the choir, but if you really need to sit, then do so, and don't let some whiner guilt you out of your spot!

 

[Ju_bubbs]

I really hate the 'youth of today' comments.

The youth of today were raised by the youth of yesterday, so there.

Good point.

Maybe we should start generalising about "the elderly of today" when that phrase comes up, see how they like it

Oh I do, quite loudly when I come across a rude old person! That or, say very loudly to whoever I'm at the time something like 'It's a real shame that these old people did such a bad job of raising the 'youth of today!'

 

[Blah11]

I will say though, someone with a young child deserves to sit down more than either. I ALWAYS stand for someone with a kid. Nothing more terrifying than holding a baby standing on a packed bus.

 

[MegGriffin]

Why could someone else not give their seat up? you're pregnant and deserve a seat for god sake! this woman sounds like a rude, bitter old bag to me. No pregnancy is not an illness, but neither is being old yet both are worthy of a seat. I think she should have huffed and bothered someone young, fit and able for a seat instead of a heavily pregnant woman. x

 

[MegGriffin]

I work for a company that cares for old people, so have to have a say....

I know some can be rude, but sometimes you have to think about what makes them like that. As previous posters have said, life can be real a struggle when you are old and I think about how I feel now, tired and grumpy sometimes, but at least its only a temporary thing. For old people, its just a struggle in which they will often become more and more frail.

Also as for rudeness, try and be patient, as we might all be like that one day! Many of them suffer from depression on top of their physical symptoms, plus they may have other diseases that can affect the way they think and behave. And like other sections of society some are just down right rude!!

My own experience is that if nothing else, if you show old people a bit of respect and kindness, they will pay you back with the same. Since I have been pregnant, I have been shown so much kindness and courtesy, it is really heartwarming. They are also a great source of advice regarding babies and pregnancy!

I just find it so sad that old people are stigmatised in this way, as we will be like it one day. I will get off my soap box now

although this maybe true for some old people, I think it's completely fair to say just as some young people are rude b*satrds, so are some old people. being old doesn't automatically make you nice or cuddly or a given right to be rude.

 

[janeybaby]

She has a point about pregnancy not being an illness but it doesn't mean you should have offered her your seat...... some old people think us younger ones are not very polite but I have found its the older ones you have to watch.

I hold the door open give up my seat for them only to have doors closed on me or no thanks for the doing so. I have found teenagers to be more polite than these old gits.......

I have also had old people try and push infront of me at the checkout.... I soon tell them where the back of the line is lol

 

[highhopes19]

Also just to add about the so called 'youth of today'.... My dad is disabled and can hardly put one foor in front of the other...

He went to the shops a few weeks back and had a nasty fall, the elderly people stepped over him and tutted but it was the so called 'youth of today' the bad ones standing on the corner with a fag that come over and helped him up- they were about 15! They showed more respect than anybody else did that day

Also I've noticed aswell because he's 'young' and disabled you should hear the remarks he gets from elderly people when parking in disabled bays, hobbling on sticks or sitting down as he can only walk a few steps...

Respect is a 2 way thing.... You don't just get it its earnt, regardless of age, gender!

Also when in the supermarket elderly people won't think twice about ramming me with their trolley or pushing me out the way.... Would never do it back not because their old but because I obviously have more manners than they do!

Xxx

 

[Beaney192]

I to work in an elderly care home and have to say that they are not all cuddly lovely old people as most expect lol. They seem to be a lot ruder then most youths would ever dare to be because they think they can get away with it! As others have said pregnancy and being old are both not illness by themselves but combined with other problems can make the individual worse off then the majority in that catergory

But no if i needed the seat and i was there first i would not move plus, they could not have needed it that badly if they were able to get up and find another while moaning lol.

Oh the joys of getting old

 

[Rachael.]

I'm on the fence. Even though i'm 36 weeks i would still give up my seat for a pensioner. Some disabilities are not always visible.

On line shopping is the way forward!

 

[Nyn]

Unless the old person in question was very obviously in more need of the seat than me I wouldn't move! When you need to sit down in pregnancy, you need to sit down. I think it's not a question of who needs it more, pregnant ladies or old people, but who's need is greatest at the time sorry you had to deal with such rudeness!!!