Barbiebaby
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My faves at the mo are cheddar and sliced red pepper and grated cheddar, tomato, Mayo, spring onion and cracked black pepper. Nom nom!!
My husband is actually a Listeria researcher so if you guys want some info I could ask him. Mind you, he mostly works on the genetics of Listeria but I'm sure he knows plenty about it's pathogenicity.
I did hear that smoked fish like lux was a no-no. And I think most of the Listeria problems are post processing contamination rather than infection in the animals. Anyway, onto other sandwich suggestions... something with sprouts and cucumbers, a bit of mayo or some white dressing, tomato, cheese, perhaps a bit of mustard for kicks. Yum!
My husband is actually a Listeria researcher so if you guys want some info I could ask him. Mind you, he mostly works on the genetics of Listeria but I'm sure he knows plenty about it's pathogenicity.
I did hear that smoked fish like lux was a no-no. And I think most of the Listeria problems are post processing contamination rather than infection in the animals. Anyway, onto other sandwich suggestions... something with sprouts and cucumbers, a bit of mayo or some white dressing, tomato, cheese, perhaps a bit of mustard for kicks. Yum!
Can you ask him if he thinks this whole avoiding-deli-meats-at-all-costs thing is really worth it? My baby book said that about 500 pregnant women a year get listeria- out of about 4 million pregnant women in the US, that makes the risk approximately .0125%, which to me is ridiculous to be worrying about. Yes, the chances of getting listeria are higher if you're pregnant- but .0125%? Is that worth freaking out about?
(I've been asking people I know about this, from microbiologists to doctors, and the majority say "Stop freaking out, and eat lunch meat if you want." So I'd love to know what your husband thinks!)
For lunch I've been having burritos instead of sandwiches. I got these organic ones from whole foods you can pop in the microwave.
Listeria monocytogenes is found in soil and water. Vegetables can become contaminated from the soil or from manure used as fertilizer.
Animals can carry the bacterium without appearing ill and can contaminate foods of animal origin such as meats and dairy products. The bacterium has been found in a variety of raw foods, such as uncooked meats and vegetables, as well as in processed foods that become contaminated after processing, such as soft cheeses and cold cuts at the deli counter. Unpasteurized (raw) milk or foods made from unpasteurized milk may contain the bacterium.
Listeria is killed by pasteurization and cooking; however, in certain ready-to-eat foods such as hot dogs and deli meats, contamination may occur after cooking but before packaging.
Just thought id post the facts.
I eat cooked meat..not deli meat. I always make sure any meat i eat is cooked through. The risk in the UK of cooked meat having listeria is negligable. However, the nhs advise against eating deli meats like salami although in reality. the risks of listeriosis is really low. Actually tbh, i think its becoming ridiculous what you seem to not be able to eat. One day, we will find a whole host of malnourished pregnant ladies because they are so scared to consume anything!
I mean for goodness sake.. the list seems to get longer and longer year by year. It will soon be, what on earth can you eat? or drink for that matter!!! Women have been having babies for years!! I think its time someone put this all into perspective.
My Ob said deli meats that come in the package are ok. I try to buy the organic. I thought that the deli counter stuff is what we want to avoid. My OB also told me to avoid Tuna because of the mercury. Thats tough cause I love tuna sandwiches. You got some good ideas. I like to make egg salad sandwiches, with a little mayo, celery and salt. Of course grilled cheese is always good too. For lunch I've been having burritos instead of sandwiches. I got these organic ones from whole foods you can pop in the microwave.