Soy Isoflavones! Natures Clomid!

[Spoomie]

Hi ladies, haven't been in here in a while because I started on fertility meds but we're taking a break from the treatment for now. So I decided to jump back on the soy iso wagon. I do have a couple quick questions for you gals though. Clomid didn't work for me because it thinned my lining too much, but I read somewhere that soy iso doesn't thin the lining like clomid does. Do any of you gals know if this is in fact true? Also, any info on taking maca along with soy (I know not to mix soy and AC)? Also, soy did work for me in helping me O. Oh, and one more question (sorry ) I'm trying to figure out the best days to take soy since I should be CD1 tomorrow (AF started tonight). I usually start on CD3, but thought I should switch that up a bit to see if it makes a difference and not sure if I should start it earlier or later. TIA on any help you gals can give me.

Hi Stash. In truth I know nothing about soy, trying it for the first time this month but Glowie told me that it's ok to take soy and maca. I've done just that this cycle. Last day of soy yesterday and I got my first high reading on CBFM this am. Not sure if that's normal?!

 

[Stash777]

Thank you Spoomie. I couldn't remember if it was okay to take it together. All I knew was that I had purchased it right before starting fertility treatment so I didn't take it (I don't think ). I hope the soy works for you! What days are/did you start? I read on another board that women tend to have the most luck taking it either CD1-5, CD3-7, or CD5-10.

Now my biggest thing is if it does or doesn't thin the lining since that was why clomid didn't work for me. I'm going to scour the internet and see if I can get any more info on it since I only saw it in one place.

 

[Bride2b]

Hi Spoomie you'll find loads of great advice here...especially from our oracle Poppy

Hi Bride2be!!! how are you? I am fine fell pregnant again straight after my MC so here I am again. Please keep everything crossed for me Are you still trying or holding off until the wedding?

Oh yes!it's less than a year now so theoretically could start trying in 9 months,I'm not a drinker so if I do fall it wouldn't be odd if I wasn't on the vino on my wedding day! Glad ur ok,there r not many still about from when I started lurking in the thread so thought of you the other day and hoping little bean is sticking firmly this time.really glad all is well so far! Xx

 

[Babykiser]

stash-
not sure if soy thins the lining or not, but personally what i did was take soy on cd3-7 and i took it at night. i only experienced a little spotting and hot flashes, and that was only for a day or two. i do believe that soy moved up my O date atleast 3-6 days, so i have no complaints. hope this helped and gl!

 

[Bride2b]

Hi Spoomie you'll find loads of great advice here...especially from our oracle Poppy

Hi Bride2be!!! how are you? I am fine fell pregnant again straight after my MC so here I am again. Please keep everything crossed for me Are you still trying or holding off until the wedding?

Oh yes!it's less than a year now so theoretically could start trying in 9 months,I'm not a drinker so if I do fall it wouldn't be odd if I wasn't on the vino on my wedding day! Glad ur ok,there r not many still about from when I started lurking in the thread so thought of you the other day and hoping little bean is sticking firmly this time.really glad all is well so far! Xx

Ok so I decided we should not ttc as the wedding is getting near, so havent fannied around with soy, CBFM, blah blah blah blah. It was all getting far too stressful. Anyway today is CD31- my cycles are 28-30 max but usually 28-29 days. So thought I would put my mind at rest and just tested


I am in total and utter shock!!!!!!! I am now really scared & got to wait 3 more hours to tell H2B!!! I dont feel excited yet, just shocked

 

[poppy666]

Hi Spoomie you'll find loads of great advice here...especially from our oracle Poppy

Hi Bride2be!!! how are you? I am fine fell pregnant again straight after my MC so here I am again. Please keep everything crossed for me Are you still trying or holding off until the wedding?

Oh yes!it's less than a year now so theoretically could start trying in 9 months,I'm not a drinker so if I do fall it wouldn't be odd if I wasn't on the vino on my wedding day! Glad ur ok,there r not many still about from when I started lurking in the thread so thought of you the other day and hoping little bean is sticking firmly this time.really glad all is well so far! Xx

Ok so I decided we should not ttc as the wedding is getting near, so havent fannied around with soy, CBFM, blah blah blah blah. It was all getting far too stressful. Anyway today is CD31- my cycles are 28-30 max but usually 28-29 days. So thought I would put my mind at rest and just tested


I am in total and utter shock!!!!!!! I am now really scared & got to wait 3 more hours to tell H2B!!! I dont feel excited yet, just shocked

OMG congratulations

 

[Bride2b]

I just feel numb.....is this normal? Its been 9 long months! I have envisaged us having a baby when I think about our wedding and just couldnt shake the image....I guess its looking a great deal more likely now!!!!!

 

[poppy666]

Perfectly normal your in shock, but wow what an amazing thing to happen

 

[Glowstar]

Aw bride!! Honey I am so delighted for you!! I am sure we had conversation on the cbfm thread a while back about just chilling/less stress and see what happens!! That bfp just crept up on you!!!

 

[Glowstar]

Spoomie, just looked at your chart. I always used to start getting highs on CD9. Your cycles are so much better than a few months ago. Your LP is ace, so no reason not to catch that egg!

 

[Bride2b]

Aw bride!! Honey I am so delighted for you!! I am sure we had conversation on the cbfm thread a while back about just chilling/less stress and see what happens!! That bfp just crept up on you!!!

I'm so glad u made an appearance Glow, this morning when I posted I kept thinking 'i'm late, i'm late!' Because every other month I had been so convinced it was our month I just though there is no way! But I have noticed very very slight sensitivity on my boobs (in the shower about 4/5 days ago) and never get that. I though maybe I had never noticed that when AF is due, but when I realised that was 4/5 days ago and no AF I started to convince myself as the day went on that actually this is very odd! I did collect a sample this morning and thought I will keep it to test if I feel the need if AF doesnt come today. The urge took over to test as I had the house to myself and thought I'd put myself out of misery! OMG!!!!!!!!

I'm meant to be wedding dress shopping this week.....my first reaction is how on earth do I get a dress as I dont know what size I will be?!?!?!? Then the next thought was oh S*&* i'm pregnant!!!

 

[poppy666]

LOL My friend found out she was 6wks pregnant last week n her wedding is in 3wks, she's had to take dress to be altered cos she's got a really bloated belly n it wont fit

 

[Bride2b]

LOL My friend found out she was 6wks pregnant last week n her wedding is in 3wks, she's had to take dress to be altered cos she's got a really bloated belly n it wont fit

OMG already!!!

 

[poppy666]

Yes terrible bloat till 12wks...

 

[Spoomie]

Spoomie, just looked at your chart. I always used to start getting highs on CD9. Your cycles are so much better than a few months ago. Your LP is ace, so no reason not to catch that egg!

Thanks Glowie. Bit worried to get a high on cd9 as I thought soy may stretch my follicular phase a bit. But if you say it's ok, then I believe it's ok! Still, hoping for a good sold egg on the back of it and you are right, luteal phase much more stable now. I continue to hope and pray. Didn't really suffer any adverse effects from soy after a slightly woozy, light headed feeling the first night I took it and I did as you said, 160mg x 3 then 200mg x 2. Had niggling cramps like the beginnings of ovulation pain on and off today but I often get that for a day or two. I'd be delighted to hold on to ovulate on cd12 but got a feeling I'll be lucky to reach that far. Have my soft cups at the ready too :wink wink: I have read that soy can heighten PMS symptoms which will be interesting for me (and not in a good way) as I don't usually get any!

 

[Stash777]

stash-
not sure if soy thins the lining or not, but personally what i did was take soy on cd3-7 and i took it at night. i only experienced a little spotting and hot flashes, and that was only for a day or two. i do believe that soy moved up my O date atleast 3-6 days, so i have no complaints. hope this helped and gl!

Thanks for replying hun. I scoured the internet and found a pretty good consensus that it does not thin the lining and supposedly helps build the lining. Yay for that!

I didn't have much with side effects from the soy either except for more twinges in the ovaries (I took it as a good sign) when I took it before. I'm still trying to figure out when I want to take it. I had decided on CD4, but I'm starting to think that I should take it earlier so I have the potential of having more eggs released and thus a better chance of one being fertilized. I'm CD1 today so I still have some time to decide. Good luck to you too!

 

[Stash777]

For those gals that have gotten their BFPs while on soy: what days did you take soy? And how did you do your dosages?

I have 100mg soy capsules, so I was thinking about doing 100mg the first 2 days, then 150mg the next 2 days, and then 200mg the last day. Or should I start with 150mg then 200mg? Sorry for all the questions.

 

[poppy666]

1st BFP i took on CD2-6 160mg's for 3 days then upped to 200mg's.

2nd BFP i took on CD3-7 160mg's for 4 days then upped to 200mg's.

 

[Jen1802]

I took soy on cd 2 - 6 though I'm still not sure if it was the soy or TCM that got me my bfp. Poppy where did you get your ticker that tells you how long you have to go in weeks and days? xo

 

[poppy666]

Jen just click on any of my tickers and it will bring you to that website