Soy Isoflavones! Natures Clomid!

[lisap2008]

Elanesse congratulations on your BFP!

Has anyone heard of soy causing an anovulatory cycle? I'm on CD16 with still a 'low' reading on my clearblue monitor, so I'm wondering if I may not ov at all this month. This has never happened before. If a follicle is developing I would have thought the monitor would pick up the estrogen produced by it. It may just be delayed of course...

I have had it delay my ovulation by a few days when I took it in the past but it turned out to be a strong ovulation anyway. they say if too much soy is taken it can cause your estrogen to shoot too high and your body can actually skip ovulation much like it would with BCP. which is why I was really nervous about taking it since I also ovulate on my own.

 

[debzie]

hoping4 dont worry chick I took no offence please dont feel awfull.

Betheny so sorry the witch got you but yeah for shorter cycle with earlier ov.

Vici/polekitten I spotted and spotted with soy do each time I take it for the first cycle even more so the earlier I take it. So do amy others.

Elanesse congrats on your bfp another soy baba.

AFM EYES NEEDED I think that this evenings opk is still a smidgen off being positive what do you girls think... As you know oh is not back until friday so I could do with it not being quite yet.

 

[harri]

My OPK was the same as that the day before I got my positive xx

 

[debzie]

thanks hari I hope I suge tomorrow and dont ovulate until friday so me and OH can get some bding in. x

 

[harri]

That sounds likely! That's what happened with me I will keep my fx.d for you! xx

 

[BeautifulD]

Well it seems that soy may have kick started my cycles..... MAYBE! lol I haven't been following this cycle at all, I've totally had the I CBA attitude! but last night I had really bad ovulation pains so I thought today I would have a nosy and see what the ole cervix is doing and its hso 'hopefully' I have ovulated on CD17 (today) it would be a miracle as this is a natural cycle and I can o upwards of cd30+! fingers crossed! just thought I would share that with ya'll

 

[harri]

Yay that's great news beautifulD! Xxx

 

[Elanesse]

Evening ladies,

Thought I would come back and post about my TTC journey as promised.

I started TTC in December, but we were NTNP before that. I have really irregular cycles - my longest was over 200 days! I tried Agnus Castus but it really didnt seem to do much. I was a bit wary of taking soy as I had read that it made some peoples cycles worse, and that it had given them cysts etc - but I thought, what the heck, my cycles cant get much worse and i'll just be sensible with it!

So in May I tried soy for the first time - 120mg, 80mg, 80mg, 80mg, 120mg (I think it was) on days 5-9. To my amazement I ovulated on CD16 - which NEVER happens with me!! We BD'd at the right time, but low and behold the witch got me.

So in June I tried soy again, this time taking a higher dose and I tried days 4-8 and took 120mg, 120mg, 120mg, 160mg, 200mg. This time, I didn't ovulate until day 46! Once again the witch got me.

So I decided one last ditch attempt at soy was needed - I couldn't risk a 4th cycle because I was worried about the side effects. Thank god, it was 3rd time lucky for soy!!

For this cycle I decided to try it on days 3-7 as I had seen a lot of women get pregnant using it on these days. I decided that based on my last cycle, less is more - so i opted for 120mg, 80mg, 80mg, 120mg.... and FORGOT to take it on the last day!! I was gutted and thought 'oh well, that was a waste of a soy cycle!'.

We only BD'd twice, just before ov - usually I BD the life out of him lol. I drank wine on 2 DPO, drank caffeinated coffee instead of the decaff I had been drinking for months, stopped taking supplements, didn't use preseed, didn't chart my temp regularly, and ate rubbish! I really was not expecting a BFP this month as you can tell. But somehow, here I am! Perhaps it was just taking a step back and not obsessing over it that helped in the end.

I cant say I had many symptoms - Ive had more 'symptoms' in months where I got BFN's! The think I did notice was from about 9DPO I started going to the toilet a lot - I got up 5 times in one night for a pee, it was ridiculous!! I also had a lot of heart burn. I still dont 'feel' pregnant - I keep expecting to go to the toilet and see the witch has arrived!

I am keeping my FX that all you lovely ladies get to join me soon!!! xxxx

I

 

[Jen.Uh.Fur]

So, my cycles aren't regular at all. The last couple cycles were 27, 28, 24 and 31 days. I have no clue when I ovulate because of this, but I don't want to start temping just yet.

Someone suggested trying these out, and I wanted to know how they work exactly.

 

[poppy666]

If your going to try soy personally id try temping, id never done temping before and only did it twice on both soy cycles and got bfp both times, but micarried my first.

 

[BeautifulD]

Well it seems that soy may have kick started my cycles..... MAYBE! lol I haven't been following this cycle at all, I've totally had the I CBA attitude! but last night I had really bad ovulation pains so I thought today I would have a nosy and see what the ole cervix is doing and its hso 'hopefully' I have ovulated on CD17 (today) it would be a miracle as this is a natural cycle and I can o upwards of cd30+! fingers crossed! just thought I would share that with ya'll

So Just a quick update, I took my temp this morning and with a temp of 36.86 I would say its pretty safe to say I have ovulated

 

[BeautifulD]

So, my cycles aren't regular at all. The last couple cycles were 27, 28, 24 and 31 days. I have no clue when I ovulate because of this, but I don't want to start temping just yet.

Someone suggested trying these out, and I wanted to know how they work exactly.

I would try temping too... just so you know whats going on, it can be a pain in the butt, but its a great tool for knowing where you are at especially in a soy cycle

 

[harri]

That's a high temp! Do you think you bd'd at the right times? I still can't decide if I am 4,5 or 6dpo. FF gave me xhairs and says I'm 6dpo but I'm not too sure x

 

[debzie]

Beautiful yeah for ovulation. X

Harri I can remember my last set of soy cycles my temps were all over and way lower post ov I'm still convinced the cycle I fell pregnant with soy I ovulated two days later than ff said. Good luck where ever you are.

Afm opk about the same with fmu going to test throughout today to see what happens. Still have ov pain and temps are still low so hopefully fate has given my a break this cycle. x

 

[BeautifulD]

That's a high temp! Do you think you bd'd at the right times? I still can't decide if I am 4,5 or 6dpo. FF gave me xhairs and says I'm 6dpo but I'm not too sure x

No idea, if I o'd yesterday or the day before yeah which is possible as the ole cervix was HSO yesterday, haven't checked today I will do in a bit but that is all I'm doing this cycle my emotions need a break. I will know for sure in 2/3 days as my ladies hurt from about 3dpo. Good luck to you sweet

 

[BeautifulD]

Beautiful yeah for ovulation. X

Harri I can remember my last set of soy cycles my temps were all over and way lower post ov I'm still convinced the cycle I fell pregnant with soy I ovulated two days later than ff said. Good luck where ever you are.

Afm opk about the same with fmu going to test throughout today to see what happens. Still have ov pain and temps are still low so hopefully fate has given my a break this cycle. x

Thanks hun, I'm so pleased I have actually o'd at a reasonable CD all on my very own, aren't I clever!??

fingers crossed you get your break hun... you deserve it!

 

[harri]

I think the fact I don't believe my crosshairs will atop me from testing to early so that's good

I have my fx'd for you all, let's get those soy babies xx

 

[sugaryspicey]

Hello, was just reading some of this thread and think I will buy some of this when I go to tesco later, 12dpo today, tested this morning bfn. Getting fed up now but staying positive for next cycle, buying my supplies already, I know I could still get a + hpt but I always get this weird thing when b4 I'm due on I start noticing red things around me, like I'm drawn to them, like a premonition. No I'm not crazy or on drugs! It's annoying but I have had that 2day so I am not hopeful of getting my bfp this month.
Never mind, thanks everyone for posting with advice.
Oh could someone help me please?
I usually have 33 day cycles and ovulate around day 18, what days should I take them or does it not matter? I was thinking CD4 - CD8? I never even got a + opk this cycle but me and dh did it everyday from CD11 - CD21, got a bit boring in the end! Hehe.
Thanks for any advice.

 

[poppy666]

You know the saying 'less is more' a lot of ladies have got their bfp's only bedding a few days around their fertile time me included Deffo use opk's whilston soy cos your ov day may alter so start using a bit earlier.

 

[debzie]

Fate may have just gave me a break

Now eggy just behave and stay put until Oh is home tomorrow please then I promise we will be at it like rabbits.