Soy Isoflavones! Natures Clomid!

Hi,

I think soy may have worked for me! Either that or af and soy are playing a very mean game with me! Too scared to test though!!
 
10 dpo today, only lasted til 9 dpo last month before AF got me, tested negative but my fingers are crossed so tight!!
 
Opks not + yet, but I did just get a glob of EWCM, something I've NEVER seen before, and I was able to stretch it an inch!!! And it was all clear. I'm so stoked. :sex::sex::sex::wohoo:
 
Oh and someone shared this with me and it's so beautiful, thought I'd pass it on...

There are women that become mothers without effort, without thought, without patience or loss and though they are good mothers and love their children, I know that I will be better. I will be better not because of genetics, or money or that I have read more books but because I have struggled and toiled for this child. I have longed and waited. I have cried and prayed. I have endured and planned over and over again. Like most things in life, the people who truly have appreciation are those who have struggled to attain their dreams. I will notice everything about my child. I will take time to watch my child sleep, explore and discover. I will marvel at this miracle every day for the rest of my life. I will be happy when I wake in the middle of the night to the sound of my child, knowing that I can comfort, hold and feed him and that I am not waking to take another temperature, pop another pill, take another shot or cry tears of a broken dream. My dream will be crying for me. I count myself lucky in this sense; that God has given me this insight, this special vision with which I will look upon my child that my friends will not see. Whether I parent a child I actually give birth to or a child that God leads me to, I will not be careless with my love. I will be a better mother for all that I have endured. I am a better wife, a better aunt, a better daughter, neighbor, friend and sister because I have known pain. I know disillusionment as I have been betrayed by my own body. I have been tried by fire and hell many never face, yet given time, I stood tall. I have prevailed. I have succeeded. I have won. So now, when others hurt around me, I do not run from their pain in order to save myself discomfort. I see it, mourn it, and join them in theirs. I listen. And even though I cannot make it better, I can make it less lonely. I have learned the immense power of another hand holding tight to mine, of other eyes that moisten as they learn to accept the harsh truth and when life is beyond hard. I have learned a compassion that only comes with walking in those shoes. I have learned to appreciate life. Yes I will be a wonderful mother.
 
hi ladies! i have very long cycles and im currently on natural progesterone cream to try and regulate them, i am wanting to start SI when i do start my period but im unsure what day would be best for me to start on? what are your opinions? what cd should i start on? how much should i take? do i take it once a day ? or once in the morning and once at night? what cd should i start using opks ? please help!!
 
This is from a post on a another thread:

1-5 = you produce more eggs, and ovulate sooner, with a stronger ovulation.

2-6 = you produce more eggs that usual, but not as many as taking it 1-5. Eggs may be more mature, and ovulation will be slightly more strong than 1-5.

3-7 = The best of both worlds, a few more eggs, and all eggs will be strong & mature, and ovulation will be alot stronger than 1-5.

4-8 = No more eggs will be produced, but the ones already there, will be matured a lot more than usual, and ovulation will be very strong. Ovulation may only be brought forward a teeny bit.

5-9 = You'll have one very mature strong egg, from the ones you already produced on your own. Ovulation will either happen when it usually does, or a few days later, but your egg will be of great quality.

I would suggest to take at least 80mg bc soy is half the strength of clomid. Soy can be taken anytime, but if taken at night, you can possibly avoid side effects and make sure to take them at the same time each day. As for opk, its suggested to start after period ends if cycle is < 35 days, or to start 3 days after period ends if cycle is > 35.

AFM- My first soy cycle i took it on cd 3-7, and did 120mg, 120mg, 160mg, 160mg, & 160mg. It made me O 2 days sooner, but I got AF early bc of low progesterone levels. This time i'm taking it cd 2-6, and doing 160, 160, 200, 200, and 200.
 
SockriTease goodluck! Catch that soy eggie!!

Poppy, I have one cheap test! Trying to hold out until the weekend to do it with my dp. Don't want to see another bfn :dohh:
 
11 or 12 I believe! It's my boobs that are making me wonder... all of a sudden my areola got so much bigger and my nipples are also big and sore! Montgomery glands appeared out of nowhere & my whole boobs are growing. Never had that before!! I've had some pinching cramps and today i've felt slightly queasy after eating, also more tired than usual. Hoping these signs are not because of soy!
 
I am going to test tomorrow at 9DPO. If I Iiiiii go out today that is.

Socritease I like that post everything said in it was rather sweet. Except the part where it says some women havr children easily they are good mothers but I will be better. I think it's horrible to say that someone will be a better mother because it took them longer to conceive. A woman who doesn't take long to conceive can have just the same amount of dedication and passion for her children and appreciate then every waking second just the same as someone who struggled to conceive. I dont mins saying they're a stronger person or something but a better mother than those who didn't take long to conceive? I feel like that's punishing those mothers. Sorry you conceived too quickly there's going to be better mothers than you.

The Length it takes someone to conceive does not in any way make them better mothers.

I usually dont bother arguing witb posts I dont agree with but this one really upset me. Maybe because iam a mother and it didn't take me long to conceive. I love watching my daughter all day anf watching her discover, the night time feeds never bothered me, I feel blessed every day, I am happy all the time, I tell everyone that motherhood is damn easy.compared to what women make out. But I think maybe I think that because I enjoy it so much. But to think I dont get to be one of the "better" mummas because I conceived too quickly? That I could never reach my full potential.

Well it's not true and makes me bloody angry.
 
I am going to test tomorrow at 9DPO. If I Iiiiii go out today that is.

Socritease I like that post everything said in it was rather sweet. Except the part where it says some women havr children easily they are good mothers but I will be better. I think it's horrible to say that someone will be a better mother because it took them longer to conceive. A woman who doesn't take long to conceive can have just the same amount of dedication and passion for her children and appreciate then every waking second just the same as someone who struggled to conceive. I dont mins saying they're a stronger person or something but a better mother than those who didn't take long to conceive? I feel like that's punishing those mothers. Sorry you conceived too quickly there's going to be better mothers than you.

The Length it takes someone to conceive does not in any way make them better mothers.

I usually dont bother arguing witb posts I dont agree with but this one really upset me. Maybe because iam a mother and it didn't take me long to conceive. I love watching my daughter all day anf watching her discover, the night time feeds never bothered me, I feel blessed every day, I am happy all the time, I tell everyone that motherhood is damn easy.compared to what women make out. But I think maybe I think that because I enjoy it so much. But to think I dont get to be one of the "better" mummas because I conceived too quickly? That I could never reach my full potential.

Well it's not true and makes me bloody angry.

That's fine, and I totally understand so there is no argument. I didn't write it, I just shared it. I didn't agree with that part either, my bff has two kids that she conceived easily. I definitely don't think that I'll be a better mother than her, she'll actually be helping me more than anyone to be honest. This poem was not meant to bash anyone at all or question their abilities as mom no matter how they conceived. But I don't know who the author is as someone shared it on another thread. I just thought it was sweet and would share. Good luck to you hun, x
 
AAAAHHHHHHHHHHH

I just entered a competition and i have high hopes for this one too. You had to be the first one to find something on their website and then email the link onwards.

I emailed the link after 40 mins from when they posted the comp but only two people had liked it and no one had commented so i'm guessing no one had really seen it yet or entered the link the page only has 700 likers. plus they gave 5 hints for where it could be found and they were misleading the hints didn't help at all so i'm hoping if other people are looking they're still hunting through the hints. Winner announced on 14th of October.

PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE!!

- edit -

So i lost the first comp :-( over 3000 times clicking submit for nothing :-( but i guess my original plan of footy jersey or BFP or both still applies because i've now entered this new comp.
 
Hi all,

I hope you don't mind me posting on your thread but i can't seem to find any answers via google or by posting in the 'trying to conceive' forum.

I took Soy for the first time this cycle, 160mg cd 3 - 7. It is my 21st cycle for #2 and thought i would give it a go to try and boost egg quality and lengthen my lp which is consistently 10 days.

The only thing is, i usually have quite bad pms from after ovulation to the start of my spotting 10 dpo. Anything from sore boobs to cramps and bad back ache etc.

This month i've had nothing..... slight cramps that were very mild for twenty minutes 6dpo but that's it. It is remarkably different.

Have any of you noticed a dramatic difference to your cycle after taking Soy? It's probably worth noting i was diagnosed with severe endo after a lap seven years ago. I thought this might make me more symptomatic after taking Soy so i'm quite surprised it's the opposite?

Thank you all for your help, fingers crossed for some bfps! :hugs:
 
Hi all,

I hope you don't mind me posting on your thread but i can't seem to find any answers via google or by posting in the 'trying to conceive' forum.

I took Soy for the first time this cycle, 160mg cd 3 - 7. It is my 21st cycle for #2 and thought i would give it a go to try and boost egg quality and lengthen my lp which is consistently 10 days.

The only thing is, i usually have quite bad pms from after ovulation to the start of my spotting 10 dpo. Anything from sore boobs to cramps and bad back ache etc.

This month i've had nothing..... slight cramps that were very mild for twenty minutes 6dpo but that's it. It is remarkably different.

Have any of you noticed a dramatic difference to your cycle after taking Soy? It's probably worth noting i was diagnosed with severe endo after a lap seven years ago. I thought this might make me more symptomatic after taking Soy so i'm quite surprised it's the opposite?

Thank you all for your help, fingers crossed for some bfps! :hugs:


What dpo are you now honey? have you tested yet?
I personally love soy its taken my cycle from 50+ days to a more normal 33 days... So I can't really help but thats my little input :) xx
 
Thank you Beautiful! :)

I'm not entirely sure! Reason being i thought as an experiment i'd use opks from when i stopped the soy. I had several rises to four seperate peaks... The last being when i'd normally ovulate on cd16...Each peak followed with pain and ewcm. So the soy definetly kicked my body into trying to ovulate earlier.

Going from that i'd be 7 dpo today...

I just can't believe how 'normal' i feel.... i've had so many troubles over the years because of my endo. I've only ever felt normal when i was carrying my son.

I'm not holding out much hope this month through fear of being disappointed but i've got a specialist app on Monday (9 dpo) so i need to test before i go. Its a FRER so i'm pretty confident i'll know either way then.

It's just such a shame you can't take Soy every cycle!!!!! I'd be made to be this pain free if it's the cause!!! :happydance:

:hugs:
 
Awww well I have everything crossed for you!! the slight cramping on 6dpo is a good sign too ooooo keep us posted :dust: xx
 

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